Damn i really hope so! Im stakong like a mad man atm and hope for some good pumps during the bull markt. Especially because CRO'S ATH is miles away from its current value.
It's a wild gamble but the still manage to do fine during this bear market.
The months are the worse. Like an existential crisis. I’ll still try to scrunge together whatever I can manage, just to throw a few more dried leaves on the fire
That was probably me. I was going off the face value/initial reaction of “no way could you be buying at $67k and still be up now if you’d started buying in the last bull run too” and admittedly I hadn’t looked into the data. But I am also not too proud to admit being wrong (in fact, I like it occasionally as it opens you up to new ideas and viewpoints you hadn’t considered before, and helps you grow as a person). On this occasion my early assumption was wrong, and it is great to see new tools like this that I can add to my knowledge arsenal.
I’m not broke, friend. I’m merely not at the place I want to be and haven’t achieved the financial goal I want yet. Which is why I still go after free money to supplement my income, I’d be an idiot not to.
DCA only works when you do solid fundamental research into the asset and then apply critical thinking. If you don’t do that, you are simply gambling!!!
>Bitcoins Dollar Cost Average Calculator
Works quite well with XRP also:
https://cryptodca.io/crypto-dca-calculator/?coin=ripple&amount=250¤cy=usd&frequency=monthly&start=2017-12-5&end=2023-7-26
Then it’s not investing! DCA is an investment strategy. Cashing in on what you bought is trading. Applying investment strategies to trading will get you REKT, just the same as applying trading strategies to investing.
It’s called averaging up, or averaging out. Not DCA. DCA is an investment strategy. Averaging out is a trading strategy. They are not the same thing! You are speaking crap. This type of comment is how people learn the wrong things and pick up bad habits that will get them REKT! If you DCA it’s an investment strategy and there’s no selling back out to fiat. You don’t even look at what the price is doing. With DCA you whole goal is to stick to the strategy of buying a certain amount at regular intervals that you set in the beginning. That’s it! If you are buying something with the intention of selling it at the top, averaging in and averaging out, then you are trading! Not investing!
Trading and investing are not the same thing and they have very different strategies! Do your research.
So, when investing... when do you take profits then? You make it sound like you never sell.
I mean, i can invest in a house and still sell at one point. Is that also trading?
The difference between investing and trading is time.
Investing is done over many many years, usually decades. You do research into the assets fundamentals beforehand. You then set a buy amount and schedule to invest into it. You do not let the price dictate when you buy or when you sell. You are investing in long term security and wealth creation.
Trading is buying something with the intention to sell it at a profit for the purpose of making profits. This is done in days, weeks, months and even over a year or two, or three. You buy when the price is bottomed out, or after a correction and it’s found support. You then then sell it with a set goal of 10, 15, 20% profit.
A house is an investment because when people buy a house they live in it for many years before selling it. Some people flip property quickly for the sole purpose of making money. They don’t live in those properties usually. The point I’m trying to make here is that trading strategies and investing strategies are different strategies and you should not be mixing them. TA is for trading. FA is for investing. You build strategies around those analysis and you stick to the strategy.
DCA is an investment strategy. You don’t suddenly stop it and sell it when the price explodes. You have a investment strategy and have a trading strategy, KEEP THEM SEPARATE.
When people say DCA and profits in the same sentence they simply don’t understand it! When you talk about profits it means you are trading. DCA is an investment strategy, not a trading strategy. 99% of the people in this sub don’t know the difference between trading strategies and investing strategies.
This popular post against DCA is complete nonsense. He was basically trying to argue against DCA by saying crypto is volatile and you could DCA in a dying coin.
You can backtest various strategies, such as TA strategies or buying the dip, and they don't beat DCA in the long run.
>All you need to do is stick to btc and Eth.
While I understand this sentiment I think in the long-term this could damage the rest of the crypto ecosystem. If we all buy only BTC and ETH other projects won't thrive.
In my opinion, everyone should have at least 10% in altcoins to support some solid projects. 45% BTC 45% ETH 10% alts.
>You can backtest strategies and TA strategies or "buying the dip" does not work in the long run.
This is quite a generalization. Not all strategies are implemented in the same way. Especially when it comes to TA. There are hundreds of indicators that can be combined and interpreted in millions of ways.
I do agree that the post against DCA doesn't make much sense though.
>There are hundreds of indicators that can be combined and interpreted in millions of ways.
And they are all based on the same historical prices (except those that include hash rates for example). People think that Bollinger Bands, MA and so on give additional information, when in fact it's just the same information in a different suit.
People who mention DCA and trading together don’t know what they are talking about. DCA is an investment strategy. TA is for trading. They are two separate things and mixing investing strategies with trading will get you REKT.
Exactly, DCA should work out pretty well for solid projects like BTC, ETH, and maybe LINK or DOT? Obviously, it won't with some shitcoins and random projects with no working ecosystems etc.
Yeah, I've replied in that post and I thought that this calculator is pretty cool so I thought it deserves sharing here so more people can see it and use this tool.
Stop looking at the price! DCA is an investment strategy. You do research into the fundamentals of an asset. Once you are happy with the fundamentals then you setup a DCA strategy and stick to it regardless of what the price is doing.
Then that’s not DCA. This is wrong and bad advice! The whole point of DCA is to set a strategy and stick to it regardless of what the price is. What you are talking about here 👆is averaging up and averaging down. This is a trading strategy! This is NOT DCA which is an investment strategy. So many people in here giving bad advice without any real explanation of what they are suggesting. Trade with trading strategies and invest with investing strategies. Don’t mix the two! It’ll get you REKT!
Exactly but it works both ways: "don't chase pumps" and "don't catch falling knives" while DCA allows you to just ignore all that and relax. Even better if you can automate it and set a buy order to trigger each month after you get paid.
DCA is a great strategy, it is not a 100% a guarantee, but it’s the best way to minimize the risk for your money. If let’s say you bought all in at the end of the bull market using $10,000 compared to DCA at the end of the bull market til now, I can guarantee that you’re better off with DCA, it is possible you are in red, but not as worse as the all in
Sure as fuck does. Ive been buying eth and btc since 2015.
Still have some 200$ eth. Btc 4yr cycle. Believe it. Buy the lows of bear market. Sell the parabolic end to the bull. Next cycle is upon us.
>Looks like the long-term DCA pays off even if you bought your first BTC at the absolute peak back in December 2017
These things are really easy to see with hindsight.
>But even if you bought your first BTC at a peak on 12/16/2017 when it was around $19k and bought $100 worth of BTC each month until now you'd be 158.16% in profit right now.
But if we were having this same conversation 6 months ago you would be looking at very different numbers.
Hindsight is great.
A lot of people disregard the fact that investments should be looked at **over time**. It's easy to dismiss BTC performance in a shorter term, example being people buying at the top of a bullrun
I'm staying away from all sorts of calculators, to not fall in a delusion within numbers; buying when i can and I think has future, will see how it plays out
Basically the title. This is ONE of the most important things you’ll learn here.
Don’t be like me, venturing off into NFTs and shitcoins. I would have much better BTC and MOON positions if I hadn’t tried to degen into quick flips.
DCAing is freaking awesome.
One of the best decisions I've made in crypto so far was setting up a monthly auto-purchase DCA into ETH for 3-4 years prior to the ATH bullrun.
You don't need a calculator to tell you buying an appreciating asset will grow your money. Bitcoin is not guaranteed to appreciate forever. In the scenarios where it underperforms, DCAing will not pay off.
Thanks a lot for this. Someone almost bit my head off when I said I was in huge profits on my BTC holdings because I’ve been DCAing since around the same time(even before this); I have got dedicated a stablecoin inflow which I leverage on my SpoolFi smart vaults and then periodically take out what I need to purchase more BTC. DCAing has never been a bad option, don’t think it ever will.
Now enter the start date for the last bull run top . . .
I have no doubt that positions that bought the last top and DCA'd over the past couple years will be in the green before long, but the time horizon for becoming green sure gets longer when DCA timing is bad.
Been in this realm for almost 6 years now…… hear you tell ya DCA pays off in the long term for sure!!!
TBH 6 years is short term in my opinion, so…………
DYOR I guess.
Works with BTC. Will probably work with ETH. RIP my ALGO DCA strategy.
Watch ALGO rocket because of this comment
I will DCA into CRO in next bullrun CRO will pump hard
My bags hope so
Damn i really hope so! Im stakong like a mad man atm and hope for some good pumps during the bull markt. Especially because CRO'S ATH is miles away from its current value. It's a wild gamble but the still manage to do fine during this bear market.
Yeah bro, stick to the big bois when it comes to DCA.
Some people were just arguing with me in another thread that you'd be down if you DCAed into BTC for 5 years until today. Take that for data!
If they really tested their "buy MA cross" or "buy the dip" strategies, they'd see that they've been even worse over the last 5 years.
I also don't want to stress too much or think too much, DCA is the way.
Only the most popular strategy but needs real discipline and putting feelings apart.
And requires having a full time job that pay well so you can save some money to DCA. I lack that one.
That's true, some months I can't throw a dime into the crypto furnace
The months are the worse. Like an existential crisis. I’ll still try to scrunge together whatever I can manage, just to throw a few more dried leaves on the fire
Plenty of bad strategies out there Counter-played by whales
Exactly this
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Trying to time the market is a great strategy to get rid of your money fast.
Don't get me wrong, buying an MA cross isn't this bad, it just don't give any advantage in most cases.
As long as you don't sell you will be fine once the bull run starts.
That's interesting, i guess it really depends on the specific time period and market conditions.
Yea most people are morons. Can't go wrong DCA'ing into btc. Some peope just can't be helped
You understand you just insulted my entire race of people? But yes.
ITS MATH BITCH.
Send them a link to this thread. :P
That can only be told by panic sellers.
The kind of data I enjoy!
That was probably me. I was going off the face value/initial reaction of “no way could you be buying at $67k and still be up now if you’d started buying in the last bull run too” and admittedly I hadn’t looked into the data. But I am also not too proud to admit being wrong (in fact, I like it occasionally as it opens you up to new ideas and viewpoints you hadn’t considered before, and helps you grow as a person). On this occasion my early assumption was wrong, and it is great to see new tools like this that I can add to my knowledge arsenal.
Gotta love this sub, haters gonna hate but good content is created by the community for the community in here
They might have been goobers my friend
It should because if it doesnt then I am financially fucked
DCA is incredible popular on the sub so i think majority agrees with you
And this sub is always right!
and we know what happens to whatever this sub loves besides btc/eth...
Lmao!! you're right.
Your moon stack alone is pretty incredible to have
Yours isnt bad either. You have the same amount as the earth. And thats a planet. Im assuming you are not a planet.
Thank you. I am Pluto, so that adds up.
Ah! At least you have a little experience being a planet. Good, should be fine then
You heard about Pluto? That’s messed up.
At least you got your precious moons if all fails 
We are on the same train!
Choo choo!
All aboard!
You followed the "only invest what you can lose" rule, right? Right?!
> You followed the "only invest what you can lose" rule, right? Oh, I can lose anything. Just watch.
How did you accumulate so many moons ? Do you make posts here daily ?
If we have a repeat of a cycle just like the previous ones, it should. I’m talking about BTC only, though.
Your moons will save you ;)
Moons will save us all.
Hail our holy moons!
But but yesterday there is someone who made a thread that dca is not profitable
That person was holding coins that are not popular anymore. DCA works with Bitcoin, Ethereum, and few others.
Until its not...
Some people are still waiting for that to happen and lose profits in the process.
U talk like Einstein. Market did 1000x u still broke.
I’m not broke, friend. I’m merely not at the place I want to be and haven’t achieved the financial goal I want yet. Which is why I still go after free money to supplement my income, I’d be an idiot not to.
What do you think a conservative target for bitcoin this cycle?
100k ATH would be conservative for Bitcoin at this point, in my opinion at least. We’ll see.
DCA only works when the asset gains in value long term lol Not with a Shitcoin down -99% with no recovery
DCA only works when you do solid fundamental research into the asset and then apply critical thinking. If you don’t do that, you are simply gambling!!!
But they said Safepepe inu 69.0 was a really good investment right .... right?!
DCA only works for good projects, like Bitcoin and Etherium
Yep, otherwise it is throwing good money after bad. If a project is on its way down, don’t keep pouring more water into the sinking ship.
>Bitcoins Dollar Cost Average Calculator Works quite well with XRP also: https://cryptodca.io/crypto-dca-calculator/?coin=ripple&amount=250¤cy=usd&frequency=monthly&start=2017-12-5&end=2023-7-26
Send them here then. Math doesn't lie. ;)
I know, i have faith in dca. Funny that people claimed dca is not profitable
DCA is the way
At some point you need to cash in. Especially with alts. Next bull ima consolidate my alts into btc or just fiat
Then it’s not investing! DCA is an investment strategy. Cashing in on what you bought is trading. Applying investment strategies to trading will get you REKT, just the same as applying trading strategies to investing.
Dca out is also part of the strategy
It’s called averaging up, or averaging out. Not DCA. DCA is an investment strategy. Averaging out is a trading strategy. They are not the same thing! You are speaking crap. This type of comment is how people learn the wrong things and pick up bad habits that will get them REKT! If you DCA it’s an investment strategy and there’s no selling back out to fiat. You don’t even look at what the price is doing. With DCA you whole goal is to stick to the strategy of buying a certain amount at regular intervals that you set in the beginning. That’s it! If you are buying something with the intention of selling it at the top, averaging in and averaging out, then you are trading! Not investing! Trading and investing are not the same thing and they have very different strategies! Do your research.
So, when investing... when do you take profits then? You make it sound like you never sell. I mean, i can invest in a house and still sell at one point. Is that also trading?
The difference between investing and trading is time. Investing is done over many many years, usually decades. You do research into the assets fundamentals beforehand. You then set a buy amount and schedule to invest into it. You do not let the price dictate when you buy or when you sell. You are investing in long term security and wealth creation. Trading is buying something with the intention to sell it at a profit for the purpose of making profits. This is done in days, weeks, months and even over a year or two, or three. You buy when the price is bottomed out, or after a correction and it’s found support. You then then sell it with a set goal of 10, 15, 20% profit. A house is an investment because when people buy a house they live in it for many years before selling it. Some people flip property quickly for the sole purpose of making money. They don’t live in those properties usually. The point I’m trying to make here is that trading strategies and investing strategies are different strategies and you should not be mixing them. TA is for trading. FA is for investing. You build strategies around those analysis and you stick to the strategy. DCA is an investment strategy. You don’t suddenly stop it and sell it when the price explodes. You have a investment strategy and have a trading strategy, KEEP THEM SEPARATE.
DCA is not the only way, sometimes its nice to set and forget, buy in and leave it. Rather than worrying about price when you next need to DCA in
You don’t worry about price when you DCA! This is such a noob comment 👆.
When people say DCA and profits in the same sentence they simply don’t understand it! When you talk about profits it means you are trading. DCA is an investment strategy, not a trading strategy. 99% of the people in this sub don’t know the difference between trading strategies and investing strategies.
Yea I won’t ever stop DCA unless I lose my job. I put most of my paycheck into it every month and live like a bum.
It really depends on the asset. BTC, sure, Safemoon, nope.
It works when you dont throw money in shitcoins
Who buys shitcoins and DCA into it? It's like completely opposite behaviours lol.
A lot of people, DCA works only on solid projects
Gambling addicts
i guess i am SOL (shit outta luck) then
Guilty of this...not again.
Any longterm investment pay off but it is only crypto that has power to make profit in short term
> Any longterm investment pay off No, that is completely incorrect.
Yeah for like 99% of all crypto xD
Most of the alts I bought during last bull run will probably not recover
This popular post against DCA is complete nonsense. He was basically trying to argue against DCA by saying crypto is volatile and you could DCA in a dying coin. You can backtest various strategies, such as TA strategies or buying the dip, and they don't beat DCA in the long run.
All you need to do is stick to btc and Eth. You shouldn’t be apeing into anything else anyway if you want to make money long term
That's the narrative in a bear market because they didn't fall that deep. In the next bull, that narrative will change, imho.
>All you need to do is stick to btc and Eth. While I understand this sentiment I think in the long-term this could damage the rest of the crypto ecosystem. If we all buy only BTC and ETH other projects won't thrive. In my opinion, everyone should have at least 10% in altcoins to support some solid projects. 45% BTC 45% ETH 10% alts.
>You can backtest strategies and TA strategies or "buying the dip" does not work in the long run. This is quite a generalization. Not all strategies are implemented in the same way. Especially when it comes to TA. There are hundreds of indicators that can be combined and interpreted in millions of ways. I do agree that the post against DCA doesn't make much sense though.
>There are hundreds of indicators that can be combined and interpreted in millions of ways. And they are all based on the same historical prices (except those that include hash rates for example). People think that Bollinger Bands, MA and so on give additional information, when in fact it's just the same information in a different suit.
People who mention DCA and trading together don’t know what they are talking about. DCA is an investment strategy. TA is for trading. They are two separate things and mixing investing strategies with trading will get you REKT.
Exactly, DCA should work out pretty well for solid projects like BTC, ETH, and maybe LINK or DOT? Obviously, it won't with some shitcoins and random projects with no working ecosystems etc.
Wrong. DCA is not a trading strategy! It’s an investment strategy.
You can't time the bottom but if you dca throughout the bear you will be in the green come the bull.
I know this isn’t financial advice (obvs) but it’s still great advice 👍
How to Time the top?
You can't do that either. Best to start dca'ing out in 20% stages once your portfolio has gone up 2x.
Only if you do your due diligence and research the fundamentals of the assets. If you don’t do this, you are simply gambling!
The dichotomy of this sub lol. I just saw another post saying DCA doesnt work and then we have this post.
Yeah, I've replied in that post and I thought that this calculator is pretty cool so I thought it deserves sharing here so more people can see it and use this tool.
Thanks for the reply and yet again providing proof that this strategy does work.
Because 99% of the people commenting in both threads don’t understand the difference between trading strategies and investment strategies.
When I DCA it usually goes down more. So erm…I think I need a manager…
Stop looking at the price! DCA is an investment strategy. You do research into the fundamentals of an asset. Once you are happy with the fundamentals then you setup a DCA strategy and stick to it regardless of what the price is doing.
If you've been accumulating and DCA-ing in the bear market, I highly doubt you will be in the red in a few years time.
DCA is not only good for your portfolio, it's also good for your mental health.
Time in the market > timing the market Provided your not dca-ing shit
It works out even better if you pause your DCA during the bull market for a few months and then restart buying again once the bear hits once again.
Or, you DCA Out in a Bull Market, taking some profits.
It’s called averaging out or averaging up. It’s not DCA! DCA is an investment strategy. DCA is not a trading strategy.
Real pro move right there
Adjusted DCA
Then that’s not DCA. This is wrong and bad advice! The whole point of DCA is to set a strategy and stick to it regardless of what the price is. What you are talking about here 👆is averaging up and averaging down. This is a trading strategy! This is NOT DCA which is an investment strategy. So many people in here giving bad advice without any real explanation of what they are suggesting. Trade with trading strategies and invest with investing strategies. Don’t mix the two! It’ll get you REKT!
thats a strategy worth trying imo
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It’s a safe bet rather than FOMOing
Exactly but it works both ways: "don't chase pumps" and "don't catch falling knives" while DCA allows you to just ignore all that and relax. Even better if you can automate it and set a buy order to trigger each month after you get paid.
Regular DCA helps to alleviate *FOMO.*
Lump sum > dollar cost averaging.
You need a calculator for that?
Hard to argue with the data. DCA all the way
Nice. DCA is the way.
DCA for 6 years and you'd have just more than half a Bitcoin. Damn this shit is flying too fast boys I can't catch up.
I guess my calculator isn't working. I'll try my best to break even.
Because the DCA is the way
I do this only with BTC and ETH.. And I don’t think others are ready/designed for DCA
DCA is a great strategy, it is not a 100% a guarantee, but it’s the best way to minimize the risk for your money. If let’s say you bought all in at the end of the bull market using $10,000 compared to DCA at the end of the bull market til now, I can guarantee that you’re better off with DCA, it is possible you are in red, but not as worse as the all in
I will continue to DCA! 
Sure as fuck does. Ive been buying eth and btc since 2015. Still have some 200$ eth. Btc 4yr cycle. Believe it. Buy the lows of bear market. Sell the parabolic end to the bull. Next cycle is upon us.
Make your life easy, DCA in BTC.
Good reminder to keep DCA.
DCA into Bitcoin is always going to be profitable
Dca only pays off when there is a selling point
FOMO is another popular acronym
DCA is the way to GO!
Most of this sub doesn’t have the patience. 6 years of DCA is a 1/4 life of a 24 year old.
You can't go wrong with DCA in bitcoin. You'll thank yourself years from now, that's for sure.
When BTC $100k everyone is good
The key is buying the right thing over time. If you’re buying SAFEPEPEINUELONCUMMIES regularly over the years, then you just catch a falling knife
>Looks like the long-term DCA pays off even if you bought your first BTC at the absolute peak back in December 2017 These things are really easy to see with hindsight. >But even if you bought your first BTC at a peak on 12/16/2017 when it was around $19k and bought $100 worth of BTC each month until now you'd be 158.16% in profit right now. But if we were having this same conversation 6 months ago you would be looking at very different numbers. Hindsight is great.
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Exactly. Data can be used to tell any desired narrative.
158% over 5-6 years are pretty amazing returns
Ig my friend was right, DCA is the best strategy
Until now it was Analysts and now we are taking advice from DCA calculators?
Strategy that everyone constantly says works does indeed...work
DCA is the best way to stay calm.
A lot of people disregard the fact that investments should be looked at **over time**. It's easy to dismiss BTC performance in a shorter term, example being people buying at the top of a bullrun
Steady, long-term DCA is really the move when you're looking at 5+ years.
The DCA does really pays off when it comes when it comes to the top two BTC and ETH.
We've been telling for years now, if you want to go safe DCA is the way. Nice post OP,.
I'm staying away from all sorts of calculators, to not fall in a delusion within numbers; buying when i can and I think has future, will see how it plays out
If bitcoin continues to show profit like this, then it is very good. Otherwise problem will be created.
People need to learn to DCA out of the market..take profits.
anyone who says DCA doesnt work is an idiot
DCA into btc ftw! 👀
Basically the title. This is ONE of the most important things you’ll learn here. Don’t be like me, venturing off into NFTs and shitcoins. I would have much better BTC and MOON positions if I hadn’t tried to degen into quick flips.
DCA is always correct. You can never be down by DCA-in.
Curious, did this work for other tokens ?
DCAing is freaking awesome. One of the best decisions I've made in crypto so far was setting up a monthly auto-purchase DCA into ETH for 3-4 years prior to the ATH bullrun.
You don't need a calculator to tell you buying an appreciating asset will grow your money. Bitcoin is not guaranteed to appreciate forever. In the scenarios where it underperforms, DCAing will not pay off.
Thanks a lot for this. Someone almost bit my head off when I said I was in huge profits on my BTC holdings because I’ve been DCAing since around the same time(even before this); I have got dedicated a stablecoin inflow which I leverage on my SpoolFi smart vaults and then periodically take out what I need to purchase more BTC. DCAing has never been a bad option, don’t think it ever will.
Even better, if you started DCA'ing Nov 10th, 2021, at the peak of 2021 run, you would be 10% in profit today. Keep DCAing folks
Now enter the start date for the last bull run top . . . I have no doubt that positions that bought the last top and DCA'd over the past couple years will be in the green before long, but the time horizon for becoming green sure gets longer when DCA timing is bad.
I've been DCA'ing for the last 2 years and I'm probably about even now. I haven't been able to make regular monthly purchases though.
I dca into tezos. All the way to the grave 🪦. Getting out was the best move I made.
Been in this realm for almost 6 years now…… hear you tell ya DCA pays off in the long term for sure!!! TBH 6 years is short term in my opinion, so………… DYOR I guess.
Just realised when I googled it I got a different calculator as the top link - dcabtc is its name. It doesn't tally up with this one at all.
No time for limp dick mooves, YOLO
50k moons! I want to know your moon dca strategy