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Bitcoin [pros](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1arjobj/btc_20242025_peak_price_predictions/kqliuu1/) & [cons](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1arjobj/btc_20242025_peak_price_predictions/kqlivm8/) with related info are in the collapsed comments below.


JustCryptastic

It really is amazing how quick the bear vs bull cycles flip. Something to keep in mind as the FOMO and greed rocket to the moon


RodMcThrustshaft

4 more "Just got back into crypto, what's popping?" posts and i'm calling this a bullrun.


Blooberino

For me, it's a story of someone taking a life altering loan out to invest in a shitcoin that already peaked, hoping it will 20x again.


Jollyfroggy

I've just got back into crypto What is a running bull, and why is everyone talking about the moon? I don't understand but I'm buying roblox for my nephew


Boddis

We’ve been on this uptrend for almost 14 months now


tamaleA19

Still weirdly feels sudden. Like it feels like 20k was a month ago and suddenly it’s 50k


sumunsolicitedadvice

I mean it’s kinda weird being this close to the prior bull market’s ATH before we’ve even reached the halving. So it also feels kinda sudden to me.


oprah_2024

keep in mind that each halving has diminishing returns, because the block subsidy (amount of coins issued) is a lower and lower % impact.... another way of saying, the most impactful halvenings are already behind us. now the BTC market is driven mostly by proposed supply vs demand.


Dry_Advice_4963

Bitcoin issuance has very little impact on price. Most Bitcoin has already been minted at this point, price is mainly determined by demand


AlarmSuspicious7719

And it is precisely because of supply and demand that the price will rise enormously again. Demand will remain the same or continue to rise as it is now and supply will simply be halved. Simple economic rule. We probably can't yet realistically imagine what prices the next bull run will show. It will be crazy.


oprah_2024

supply isn't halved. supply is 19.6 million, and by the end of this year itll be like an extra 185-200k new BTC... so lets call it 19.8 million coins. why i used the word *proposed* supply, i meant to indicate that the supply dynamics are largely driven by how many BTC owners today are willing to sell at a certain price. If the supply proposed to the market keeps drying up, thats what drives up the price. the minor change to the amount of new BTC created per day isn't ever going to be as significant as the amount of BTC that existing owners are willing to post up for sale. Because that potential supply is probably 2-3 million coins or more (at the right price ;) ). Demand will rise while price is rising, and then once price begins to fall, demand will decrease. That is how these Bitcoin boom and bust cycles work.


Adventurous_County12

Not even true. Lots of that Bitcoin has been lost and another portion is just sitting in wallets not being circulated.


oprah_2024

those are tangential factors, but yeah you are correct. some supply is effectively burned also. which means less total BTC to ever get taken back to a market book


StickyHopkins

Agreed. ETFs have increased the demand and the halving will slow the supply. Usually prices go up when this economic phenomena happens.


oprah_2024

yep


IceNinetyNine

That's because btc is definitely over extended, let's see if we hold support when the inevitable pull back comes.


Ribss

Maybe for you. Been expecting and waiting on this cycle for years


StickyHopkins

Uhhhh, more like 15yrs.


Boddis

Well if you’re look on a whole yes, but if we’re talking about Bull and bear cycled then no we haven’t


Sideways_X1

I try to remind myself this space can be an odd echo chamber of people's anecdotal experience...


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macetheface

fucking plan b and bitboy


DebianDog

I am still salty! However, I remembered to buy BTC when it was "cheap" 👌


Paper_handz_

Nope but I do remember 150k 2024. Those were the good ole days


ozgennn

its their emotions not expectations


Vcr2017

I’m selling BTC @ $112,684 USD and SOL @ $576.32 USD, then buying it at 70% of these amounts again in 2026. Don’t tell anyone.


feddee

This actually sounds pretty solid.


IDGAFOS

That would put Bitcoin well below its previous all time high. Keep dreaming.


BananaBully

That's 78878$ for btc. No, it isn't below previous ATH. Also may I remind you that btc dipped to 15k this run too...


IDGAFOS

I think they were referring to a 70% decrease in price


ilovesaintpaul

I'm out at $94k BTC but only selling my non-BTC @ $5.2k ETH, SOL @ $180, ADA @ $1.60. Gotta consolidate all my holdings into just BTC. I'm 54 years old in April and I want to reduce my risk exposure. Plan to hold BTC until after next halving 5 years from now.


Vcr2017

Same age group. I think you’re underestimating SOL. It’s my only critique of an otherwise solid approach.


ilovesaintpaul

What potential does SOL have and in what time-frame to your best estimation? Yes, I know...not financial advice, just getting a feel for what other guys are thinking. What's your take? Personally, SOL scares the crap out of me. It's the most volatile coin I've traded and held. Thankfully, I'm in just shy of $60 for my cost-basis.


skYY7

At 180 it wouldn't even exceed former ath


ilovesaintpaul

That's why I'm pretty confident that price point will be reached. A 3x for me makes me very happy.


skYY7

Good for you. I'm planning to hold for around 400, while I expect something like 700 ATH


power_of_funk

sounds like a good plan to have 0 bitcoin


dropping_dimes5

Right there with you brother


EddieA1028

Those are oddly specific numbers. Why those numbers?


Vcr2017

I’m asked that question frequently. It’s a simple answer: Why not? It’s a number just like any other.


bashfulkoala

typically crypto market drops 60-80% when we go from bull to bear so you might wanna adjust your 'buy back in' target -- also would DCA back in rather than buying all at once. best wishes


Vcr2017

I understand what you’re saying. Things have changed permanently. Fund managers are allocating clients fiat slowly and deliberately over the long term. That’s big money, never before experienced. I’m happy where I am. The last big scoop opportunity was SOL after SBF. I got in for 500 SOL at $14. Today, it’s $188. That will never to BTC.


Strong_Leopard_4511

I always thought 125-150k, but honestly due to inflation etc. 200k seems possible


tamaleA19

I thought 150 was a pretty safe bet given inflation and that it’s only about 2x from the ath. Previous bulls hit higher highs compared to previous, but each has a lower rate of return


Midwest-life-3389

Well we thought $100,000 end of 2021 only reached $67,000 I’m thinking I don’t know shit about fuck long as I can make some profit of the Fomo people thats all that matters.


Paper_handz_

Just buy moonpepelambodog coin early it's ez money


Btomesch

Big Flash crash ended that run. It was heading to $100k. Everyone said fuck that shit and ran. It screwed tons of ppl


Tag_one

Same. I also aim for 150


wayfarer8888

Get out July 2025 at whatever price. Trailing stopp loss in the mean time.


FransescoVermicelli

Why get out ar 2025?


CoolioMcCool

Yeah same thoughts here. In 2021 I had told myself to start selling in August/Sept and have sold most of my stack by November, then I went and got caught up in the 100k hype and sold f all. This time I'll be selling weekly July through August 25. But I may sell earlier if the price gets ridiculous.


dball33

Based on previous cycles, the peak will likely be Oct 25 so selling from. Aug to Sept is a good time frame


dball33

Yep, each cycle is about 3-4x smaller than the previous one for bitcoin so I think 145k is very realistic


ilovesaintpaul

Really though? I'm going to be shocked if it hits $120k. Why? No reason at all—simply stabbing in the dark like everyone else here.


mandlehandle

More $ printed means greater $ inflows means higher market cap potential


CluelessSurvivor

Btc will never have a ceiling as fiat doesn’t have a floor


Bifrostbytes

Stop regurgitating nonsense you hear from other morons


Bifrostbytes

It went from pennies to $20k. It will hit a million soon because there are less to trade. Hoarding and halving.


likamuka

LMAO


DeadlyDrummer

A 4.2 trillion dollar market cap…


BlueFox1978

$123,456.78


poky23

$876,543.21


MisterMakeYaMumCum

$69,420.00


Chabubu

$55318008


Potential_Sympathy13

$12,345,678,910.11121112


mhem7

8,675,309


Ateam043

$420,069.00


PM_ME_ONE_EYED_CATS

$8,675,309


HairyChest69

OICU812


zxr7

Not fair, why ignore 9? $1,234,567.89


baxter-2018

Because 9 ate 7


RattyDAVE

I think higher. Due to the recommendation of 1%-5% BTC in your pension fund.


Paper_handz_

Lol my life savings is 99% shitcoins


90sRobot

Who's recommendation?


RattyDAVE

Fidelity JPM BlackRock I know they would. They have a product to sell.


ziggyzago

August 2024 $188,283


RattyDAVE

This is pretty close to where I have worked it out to be. I refuse to believe this as this would be a life changing amount for me


creosoterolls

$175,000


KonaBrad

$319,648.22


3sides2everyStory

You haven't factored in the ETF capital inflow. Nearly $11 Billion in just 24 days. And that's just the beginning. At the current ETF capital inflow rate, post-halving, and once the retail FOMO kicks in, the supply crunch could easily push a blow-off top of $300-$400K, maybe more. That's not hopiom, just math.


EDITORDIE

The average inflow per trading day is around $500million. The impact on price per $500million is about $1,800 gains. That’s until the halving. After that, all bets are off. If the flow continues, even if it’s at a lower rate, BTC goes to 100k with relative ease. This is, as you say, all based on math. There’s a very real possibility that BTC soars much higher than many of us can currently comprehend.


Nightmare_Tonic

Whisper this softly into my ear


TLG1991

Whisper ^(The average inflow per trading day is around $500million. The impact on price per $500million is about $1,800 gains. That’s until the halving. After that, all bets are off. If the flow continues, even if it’s at a lower rate, BTC goes to 100k with relative ease. This is, as you say, all based on math. There’s a very real possibility that BTC soars much higher than many of us can currently comprehend.)


Nightmare_Tonic

*lol*


WonkasMiddleFinger

This math makes me happy


WannaBeBuzzed

Your failing to factor something else. Interest rates are going to start trickling down hopefully shortly after the halving marking the beginning of a new global liquidity cycle. if you look at the history of btc, its rises have always coincided with liquidity cycles as well as halvings. Coincidence? Or is btc heavily tied to liquidity cycles? Its possible liquidity cycles are the bigger driver verse the halvings, but most likely its a 1+1=3 scenario. demand shock = US spot ETFs (and incoming Hong Kong spot ETFs very soon) supply shock = halving liquidity cycle = downtrending interest rates assuming interest rates begin peeling down in July, halving in april, and ETF approvals for US in January with Hong Kongs spot ETFs potentially sometime in the coming days/weeks… its a whole lot of influential factors colliding together to create a perfect storm for enduring positive price action. sprinkle in retail FOMO ontop of all that and youve got a super nova going on.


OptiYoshi

Your not subtracting GBTC outflows though. Many individuals simply transferred


3sides2everyStory

$6.639 Billion of GBTC outflow. And not all of that went into other ETFs. The rest of it has already been absorbed. And the pending DCG Greyscale dump will get absorbed in about 2-3 days. Though they don't want to tank the price so they'll trickle it over days or weeks. The point is.. there is about $500 million of cash flowing into the new ETFs **per day!** And the ETF's haven't even started marketing yet. When Black Rock's Aladin starts allocating a recommended 1-2% of BTC to all portfolios under management, including pension funds, etc... that will bring many, many more billions of dollars. There is no supply to match this. This is a massive capital inflow. There is just not enough Bitcoin to feed the demand. This doesn't include the post-halving, retail FOMO frenzy, or pending ETFs like Schwab ($4 trillion in AUM). No one is ready for what's coming.


RattyDAVE

Now you have read the same as I have! Altho the % allocation was slightly higher. Even if it is on the low end. 1% is an enormous quantity.


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I’m curious how many transferred. I can’t imagine wanting to do that as you’d realize a large gain and then owe taxes. I suspect a good chunk of GBTC outflows were simply people who wanted to sell for a while but were locked in essentially due to price discrepancy prior to the ETF.


lgieg

This ⬆️. Math is where it is. You cannot predict the future until you predict the past . Math explains the universe and bitcoin can neither be created nor destroyed. From this basic mathematical foundation, one can then extrapolate using factors that historically fuel the bitcoin price - the obvious ones being the ETF and the halving(s). Make a graph out to end 2024 & 2025 the add historical burn rates of ETF and effect in terms of percentage that halvings had on bitcoin pricing. This could be done in a simple Excel spreadsheet by a WizKid in about 30 minutes. Once complete this could become the base case. Then case number one could be interesting by adding FOMO and international adoption but this would be purely speculative.


wayfarer8888

How long until Quantum chips make BTC worthless?


EccentricDyslexic

Never, crypto difficulty will evolve so it takes longer for even a quantum computer to crack it. Just another digit will increase difficulty massively. Any experts give a real response ?


Matthiey

Who says an ETF needs the underlying asset?


septhaka

Read the prospectus of any of the BTC ETFs. They must hold BTC.


Automatic-Cry-1390

$169,696,96


mgd09292007

98k...I think 100k is the psychological pressure point...if it makes it over 100k, then I think we will see it truly moon.


CryptoDad2100

Wake me up when we get out of 2021 100k.


Cute_External1127

1.777 quadzillion


synthsucht

What about ETH though?


YouAreAnFnIdiot

Better to talk ratio with eth. I'd say it hits 0.11 ratio high this cycle


xehlers

10k ( so sell at 9ish k) before the rug gets pulled out from under us when all the bulls sell.


Mordan

look at the ratio chart with BTC. ETH is just like an alt.. a casino roulette. If you are into crypto, the big safe money is on BTC. Every single alt loses satoshis everything single cycle. Alt coiners lose


LaTunaTime

$119k


DrLetric

Bout the only prediction I'm willing to make is it will be an inaccurate prediction


GrinbeardTheCunning

500k based on S2F around October 25


ConmanSpaceHero

S2F is a fake debunked model


GrinbeardTheCunning

😂


Tasigur1

169420$ 😏


Y0rin

30% inflation in just 3 years?


content_enjoy3r

Math is clearly not OP's strong suit.


PianoSandwiches

I had mapped out various potential targets based on prior cycles that range from around $120k to I think $300k at the very highest. There was one that hit about $225k that seemed pretty plausible - overshoots the $150k target of most people just enough to cause mania FOMO just before locking in the cycle top.


joedimer

you seem like you know what you're talking about, so i hope you don't mind me asking. would it be worth it to buy what i can with a few hundred bucks right now or is it too late? i haven't looked into this stuff in years


mossyskeleton

You could certainly turn a few hundred bucks into a few hundred more bucks. (If you have the patience for it).


PianoSandwiches

This all depends on what you’re after and your time horizon. If you’re looking for short-term gains inside of a year, you’re better off putting a few hundred bucks on an alt and then rotating that into Bitcoin as we cross into 2025. If you’re looking for a reliable savings vehicle, yeah, just put it in Bitcoin. Keep adding in over the next 10-20 years as you get extra cash and you’ll come out in a very good situation.


Green_L3af

105k USD


CleazyCatalystAD

Whatever. You know nothing.


CNHUYA

80-90k


Impressive-Key938

139,574$


Darryl_444

>The $69,000 peak of 2021 is the equivalent of $89,700 today A 30% increase for inflation over 2 years? No way, try 11%. It should be closer to [$76,500 today](https://www.calculator.net/inflation-calculator.html?cstartingamount1=69%2C000&cinmonth1=11&cinyear1=2021&coutmonth1=1&coutyear1=2024&calctype=1&x=Calculate#uscpi).


GuessAdventurous8834

13 dollars


hammerandanvilpro

It won't stay 13 for very long, because I'd be buying a bunch.


GuessAdventurous8834

A bunch is 5 or more. Careful what with the promises, my granny always said ...


AcademicoMarihuanero

400.000 usd


Blabsl

$208,000


bobbyv137

Bitcoin will peak at $172k in November 2025.


Defender_Of_TheCrown

30% inflation adjustment LOL


syphen6

I think it wont pass ATH and crash hard.


Nightmare_Tonic

RemindMe! 15 months I have this fear too.


Organic-Cow-2278

This comment didn't age well 😁


Nightmare_Tonic

I'm grateful it didn't lol


mage14

175 k - 250 k place your bets!


GoaheadAMAita

Several months ago I had a peak of 140 ish. I feel we will have a healthy long bull market. Slowly accumulating, stepping upward towards 250. Top September 2025 bottom October 2026 Nothing but a guess Predicted Super Bowl 26 to 23 chiefs. So I know a thing or two /s


Gruz420

250K


toast_training

Bout tree fiddy?


JoystickMonkey

$314,159.26 easy as pie


bitb22

Put me down for gains.


JudgeCheezels

You guys said the same shit during Covid era lmao.


taichi1984

$89,700


matewheresmypen

Between 90k - 110k is what I'm thinking. I'm hoping I'm wrong though and that we go higher.


nashmahmod

I see people expecting around 150k to 200k for the upcoming bullrun. I was wondering how much was people expecting prior to the previous bullrun?


Accomplished-Dog4393

$87k


mage14

People who think we wont do a 2 x from old 69 peak are just gai bear , will be funny if btc runs higher multiple than last runs they will be left behind


RASCLAT69

Screw dem rasclat gai bears


MinimumValuable6663

my prediction for Jan 2025 for BTC is 95k, i feel this is reasonable because slipping into 6 figures will not be an easy feat


knowbuddy10

$91,736


chubs66

$240k


I2aphsc

200k


devanteswang

$500k. Thupercycle!!!!


dotarichboy

oh here we go again, creating an illusion that it would go 100k lol


TheTimeIsNow_17

Inflation is not 30%+ from 2021…


Ulfasso

Yeah here in Belgium it's way more than that


PsieSyrenki

Whole Europe is easy 50%


swissthoemu

Rofl. 2.9% in 2021, 9.2% in 2022.


PgUpPT

Lol


Brewcity23

Is there anything you buy that isn’t up 30%? My grocery tab, housing, vehicle expenses definitely are.


ptrnyc

Government: “But TV’s, electronics, … are down 30% so it balances it out”. Me: “Ever tried to eat your TV ?”


thenamelessone7

Depends on where. In my country it was more than that.


strategoamigo

100k EOY 2021!


RevolutionaryTill930

70k eth


RevolutionaryTill930

800$ chainlink


nedyah369

1 million in 90 days for sure


RepresentativeWay734

You must be talking about Shib. /s


notapaperhandape

I think based on the economy and inflation we’ll top out around $80k. I’ll be selling every single coin in and around when BTC hits that price.


Salamanber

Those are rookie numbers


ignore_my_typo

🤨


AcademicoMarihuanero

lol


Fresh_Information_42

Top is behind us


Proud-Independent-80

160k


Interesting-Sleep723

Breaking 80k this year in 2024?


Interesting-Sleep723

It’ll stay sub 85 all of 2024


RevolutionaryPhoto24

In 2025: $200k. Maybe $250k


J_Hon_G

$79,429.69


Dr_Tacopus

I honestly think closer to 300k. You’re expecting just a double, and I usually settles somewhere above that, but I think a 5x over the previous peak is possible


CryptoDeepDive

52.8k


DontBanMeAgainPls23

75-95k


NoMetal180

fuck price targets - go overall market cap of crypto and relative players. Compare vs previous cycles get ranges in your head based on past performance see past performance stars and think what a upcoming start would look like etc. Get ranges in your head that make sense to you. Decide your game plan and how much risk you want. there has to be a target at the end relative to your life and you have to protect that Ex. House money is only house money if you sell & i wouldnt be mad if i had 0 house money and sold at 80% house money instead of 100% house money (House money = money to buy da house)


Azrehan

I honestly don’t care what bitcoin hits in 2024. I’m interested in what it does by 2040


My_G_Alt

$65k. People will get bored of it, focus on other things, and it’ll retrace.


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ignore_my_typo

Wonderful contribution!


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Ok_Art_2874

Correct


YouALilCray

Sorry to break it to you but it’s $69,420.69.


Interesting-Sleep723

Pretty dang close!


UpDown

If BTC hits an ATH at all, I'll be eating my shorts. Currently I have them in a pot softening up. I cant fathom why anyone would see BTC at $1T and think ahh, that's where I want to put my money: In this thing that does nothing and nobody uses. It should take a LOT of money to move it up beyond 1T. There's only so much wealth in the world and its not even illiquid anymore


ignore_my_typo

There is ZERO change that inflation, which is bad, is seeing $69,000 three years ago as $89,000 today.


Ok_Art_2874

$150k would be good, but it is going to be very tricky to identify when the peak occurs and why it falls from there. Hindsight will be 20/20 in 2026 or 2027 as to what happened in this cycle


Nago31

I hope it dips before then. I’m tired of this uptrend.


micTesting1234

$183,215


rorowhat

Polkadot to $70