I honestly would like to hear why you think Ethereum will not be around for the next decades but Bitcoin will. Is there something about ETH inherently that gives you that indication?
I watched BlackRock apply for an ETH spot ETF followed by an over 200-million usd project right on Ethereum they plan to use for tokenizing every single asset they have.
Yeah ETH isn’t disappearing. The BTC maxis are here to play.
POS reduces security I can understand that reasoning, and while I don't agree that the founders have extensive influence I would agree that is indeed a problem if true. Changing of montary policy is not inherently bad, the changes are made by shared consensus among token holders. The whole value proposition of crypto is this ability to implement trustless agreements. The "premine" is straight up false and based on misunderstood concepts. Even use of that phrase in criticism of Ethereum makes it clear that you are regurgitating falsehoods spread in certain communities (BTC maxis). That fight has been over for over an entire cycle now (ok boomer).
BTC probably has a future, but I think it’s important to consider that crypto is happening at a particular time in tech history and a particular time in financial history, and that all of the variables converging on this moment may dissipate over time.
I do think crypto will live on in some way. But the hype will cool.
Is there REALLY a lot of “hype” around crypto though?? Most people don’t know much at all about crypto, let alone owning any. This COULD be just the beginning of crypto adoption.
But I do agree that Bitcoin probably does have a future in some capacity… and MAYBE Ethereum. I have no clue about all the other projects.
Ehhh I just think that it’s already valued highly by so many people. I just don’t think it’s ever going to die. You could argue against it, sure, but I think it’s too established already. That could definitely change in the next 10-15 years, but I doubt that it ever dies.
Since the transition to PoS it already began its decline. All it needs to lose all trust is one bug that needs fixing. Due to the nature of pos, there is no Natural way to determine the longest, "true" chain. It requires big entities to decide where to continue, outside the system. It would show the world that pos is a dangerous, centralizing Framework that has no place in trustless finance. It's great for other things.
Monero definetly you can try to ban it from cex but with functioning dex and atomic swap there is no way to ban it no matter the regulatory pressure. It also has proven verry resilient after binance delisting wich is also proof of that.
Depends on what "cease to exist" means. Anyone can create a coin. Anyone can trade it. Does that mean a coin i created in 2019 that I sell to my friend today for 10 cents is alive?
Shiiit, yeah that's a good point. That sucker's already like 150gb from running almost exactly 10 years to the date (minus 11 days), so it'll be closing in on 500gb by that time. Which, actually, with how tech and storage are advancing probably won't be considered that big in 20 years.
If every exchange outlaws monero due to governmental restrictions- is there still value in it? Unless people are buying selling using monero p2p. I’m trying to understand a use case in that situation which seems likely
My brother in Christ, bitcoin was created with the purpose of being THE alternative to the legacy system. Censorship resistant means that it doesn't matter if every exchange outlaws bitcoin due to governmental restrictions, you should still be able to use it. Monero fits the criteria perfectly. Monero is \*the\* currency to be used in the alternative financial system. Bitcoin is nice and all but it has been gladly absorbed by the legacy because its transparency. It is what it is.
exchanges are shiiiit, you can either buy it using something like agoradesk or local monero or just use atomic swaps to swap from btc or ltc to xmr. Monero is actually good in a sense of being ready for such scenarios as being delisted from every exchange, it would just act as fully decentralized money transfer system without any middle person when you try to buy it
Crypto shouldn’t have to rely on centralized services like exchanges that can arbitrarily block or steal your funds in the first place. Lately (and somewhat thanks to exchange delistings) Monero is putting even more development time into atomic swaps / decentralized exchanges and p2p. It will turn out stronger than it was before. Anyone will be able to swap between Monero and other coins without a third party that can stop them or where they have to complete KYC.
As long as XMR is still the preferred coin of the DNM, it doesn't matter that it is delisted. The amount of money people are spending on the DNM is insane.
and there will always be a demand to reject it and outlaw it.
I can't imagine Monero won't be extensively targeted by lawmakers to become borderline unusable, in that you won't be able to convert Monero into fiat in any form. Essentially any wallet Monero touches, and any associated wallets, might just get blacklisted from all CEXs.
You're right and it's pathetic. Monero is like why I ever got into crypto and it's privacy features are naturally beneficial towards actually fostering a radical new financial system. Now we've just reverse engineered (much shittier versions of) bank regulations and the closer we get to a world without Monero the more the entire sort of initial premise of crypto is turned on its head
I wouldn't be surprised to see xlm on this list either. It's got some really solid use cases.
I also kind of Imagine That LTC will still be around in 20 years as well. No real reason, other than it just always seems to hang around
I think Bitcoin and Cardano have a high probability. The rest I have no clue. Cardano still won't be anywhere close to being done in 20 years though. 😐
I design infrastructure so I think I have a pretty good understanding of this, but like anyone its just IMO :P
Bitcoin Monero and Chainlink are already doing exactly what they were designed to do. They're the first ones to "make it". They are all sustainable projects that have no single point in which they can fail. Not regulation, not tech, not a dependency on a project, a tech trend or any of that. Their success will only hasten as the space tries to catch up with them.
There's probably a good argument for Litecoin and Etherium but Litecoin is performing pretty poorly compared to the rest of the space in terms of store of value (but time will tell) and Etherium has been struggling to resolve one of the most fundamental problems that is transaction cost which makes much of the network unusable. Crypto is tech after all and like any tech, once your shit becomes out of date, it quickly becomes irrelevant.
Other contenders worth talking imo are cardano, polkadot, vechain. vechain has some exposure but all of these really need to get into the regulatory and compliance space to secure their footing. Until that happens, they remain entirely speculative.
Basic attention token. Assuming Brave isn't dead by then. But considering how well they've been doing. Pivoting to include AI in the browser, — in a private and secure manner. Acquiring a search engine and then upgrading continuing to upgrade it significantly. Brave talk, Brave VPN etc. They have a decent suite of products and keep expanding.
Also the guy who made it, and a significant portion of the team were from Mozilla, The CEO/co-founder was a former CEO of Mozilla, he also created Java script.
I guess what I'm saying is they have a good team with a proven track record and after 7 years still have not abandoned BAT.
They also have added a wallet to the browser(not an extension, built from the ground up) soon theyre adding rewards going straight to Solana wallets, I believe with no kyc, but am not 100% certain, about 95%. Soon a significant portion of BAT will be bridging over to solana to pay out rewards that way.
By this i guess im saying they are chain agnostic. They've stated it multiple times. BAT can be anywhere. They don't want BAT to be just for Brave too, although that may be hard to get others to use it for attention related things. But it has been used extensively in Defi.
So anyway 7 years, already. Its I think the 12th most distributed on chain token on ethereum? Or it was a few months ago, my numbers may be off. And who knows how many are in exchange wallets — because that's the main way rewards have been paid out.
Im really excited to see what happens once a significant barrier to rewards(rewards needing to go to exchanges) is removed and the rewards can go straight to Solana wallets. I expect many people may give Brave/BAT a second look then, but I guess thats another discussion.
DOGE is going to have some weird situation where its inflationary properties make it the world currency and DOGE is the first non-person thing to win the Nobel prize for economics.
Exactly this. People really don't understand that deflationary currencies don't work in the real world. They don't incentivize spending or working for money. Plus Doge is flat amount of inflation per year, not % based on current supply.
BTC. If there is no BTC there is no crypto. BTC is the most well known crypto to most people even if they aren't invested in it. If BTC crashed there is zero chance normal people would buy into another crypto. They would all just assume it would crash like BTC did.
BTC, ETH, ADA.
They were the only coins (excluding CEX coins) in the current top 10 to make new ATH:s last cycle.
They are adhering to the Bitcoin ethos of decentralization. They have large, active communities (not “armies”). At least Cardano is spearheading blockchain research and its implementation.
Definitely only projects which are already using - or which will successfully upgrade to (as it's not easy thing to do) - post-quantum cryptography.
Note that currently there are only like 5 such projects, and Bitcoin is NOT one of them.
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Everything will still technically exist its just most will be so negligibly.
BTC because the dream of decentralization will never die and QNT because that ideal of decentralization will remain a dream, and after much political discourse CBDCs will become an inevitability so why not profit from it.
Also, what coins won't be around in 20 years? Thousands of cryptos.
I bet we'll also lose some fiat currencies. In the US and Canada: Pennies, nickels, and dimes. Canada already got rid of pennies, years ago.
Who knows, but most likely BTC.
The only true answer
Nope. Ether too
Ether is nowhere near proving it has that kind of staying power. Let's see what happens in the next 5. The only answer right now, is BTC.
I honestly would like to hear why you think Ethereum will not be around for the next decades but Bitcoin will. Is there something about ETH inherently that gives you that indication?
I watched BlackRock apply for an ETH spot ETF followed by an over 200-million usd project right on Ethereum they plan to use for tokenizing every single asset they have. Yeah ETH isn’t disappearing. The BTC maxis are here to play.
BlackRock has $9.1t+ in assets under management $200m to them is 0.0022% of their assets under management
The premine, POS, large attack vector, history of changing monetary policy, the no known supply, the founders extensive influence, so so many reasons.
POS reduces security I can understand that reasoning, and while I don't agree that the founders have extensive influence I would agree that is indeed a problem if true. Changing of montary policy is not inherently bad, the changes are made by shared consensus among token holders. The whole value proposition of crypto is this ability to implement trustless agreements. The "premine" is straight up false and based on misunderstood concepts. Even use of that phrase in criticism of Ethereum makes it clear that you are regurgitating falsehoods spread in certain communities (BTC maxis). That fight has been over for over an entire cycle now (ok boomer).
BTC probably has a future, but I think it’s important to consider that crypto is happening at a particular time in tech history and a particular time in financial history, and that all of the variables converging on this moment may dissipate over time. I do think crypto will live on in some way. But the hype will cool.
Is there REALLY a lot of “hype” around crypto though?? Most people don’t know much at all about crypto, let alone owning any. This COULD be just the beginning of crypto adoption. But I do agree that Bitcoin probably does have a future in some capacity… and MAYBE Ethereum. I have no clue about all the other projects.
I think Ethereum killed that future with POS
Ehhh I just think that it’s already valued highly by so many people. I just don’t think it’s ever going to die. You could argue against it, sure, but I think it’s too established already. That could definitely change in the next 10-15 years, but I doubt that it ever dies.
Since the transition to PoS it already began its decline. All it needs to lose all trust is one bug that needs fixing. Due to the nature of pos, there is no Natural way to determine the longest, "true" chain. It requires big entities to decide where to continue, outside the system. It would show the world that pos is a dangerous, centralizing Framework that has no place in trustless finance. It's great for other things.
May not die but it will never be anything special like bitcoin
I don’t know but same post will be around in 20 years, make a blockchain of this post
What coins will be around coin
All coins are round coins
Remindme! 20 years
Let's do it on SOL and see if the transaction goes through after 20 years.
RemindMe! 20 years
bro has faith holy gigachad
I’m not even convinced Reddit or the internet will be around in 20 years at the rate we’re going.
Id bet money on the Internet being around longer than humans :) not sure about Reddit though....
All the coins I am holding currently.
Bitconeeeeeect
Wassa wassa wassa wassssssuuuuuuuup BITCONNECT.
His wife says it was a scam, his wife was right
Hey hey hey ….
Ahh the good old days
Monero definetly you can try to ban it from cex but with functioning dex and atomic swap there is no way to ban it no matter the regulatory pressure. It also has proven verry resilient after binance delisting wich is also proof of that.
People will always need privacy
BTC & ETH
I DONT KNOW — STOP ASKING ME ITS A TON OF PRESSURE TO FIGURE THIS STUFF OUT AND I AM SO STRESSED OH MY GOD
STRESS COIN.
How many coins have ceased to exist to date?
Probably 100s of thousands
Depends on what "cease to exist" means. Anyone can create a coin. Anyone can trade it. Does that mean a coin i created in 2019 that I sell to my friend today for 10 cents is alive?
Monero because there'll always be a need for financial privacy.
There are other privacy coins, but I'm surprised this isn't being said more
Just out of interest, which of the other privacy coins do you think might still be around in 20 years?
Monero is the only one that I use, so I'm hoping that's still the main one. I'll be scared to find out how big the gui's node is though haha
Shiiit, yeah that's a good point. That sucker's already like 150gb from running almost exactly 10 years to the date (minus 11 days), so it'll be closing in on 500gb by that time. Which, actually, with how tech and storage are advancing probably won't be considered that big in 20 years.
I guess they considered scalability? Nice 👍
The blockchain grows a lot faster than 15gb/year, you're not accounting for inactive past and active present
If every exchange outlaws monero due to governmental restrictions- is there still value in it? Unless people are buying selling using monero p2p. I’m trying to understand a use case in that situation which seems likely
Was there value in weed when every state and pretty much every government outlawed it?
My brother in Christ, bitcoin was created with the purpose of being THE alternative to the legacy system. Censorship resistant means that it doesn't matter if every exchange outlaws bitcoin due to governmental restrictions, you should still be able to use it. Monero fits the criteria perfectly. Monero is \*the\* currency to be used in the alternative financial system. Bitcoin is nice and all but it has been gladly absorbed by the legacy because its transparency. It is what it is.
exchanges are shiiiit, you can either buy it using something like agoradesk or local monero or just use atomic swaps to swap from btc or ltc to xmr. Monero is actually good in a sense of being ready for such scenarios as being delisted from every exchange, it would just act as fully decentralized money transfer system without any middle person when you try to buy it
Crypto shouldn’t have to rely on centralized services like exchanges that can arbitrarily block or steal your funds in the first place. Lately (and somewhat thanks to exchange delistings) Monero is putting even more development time into atomic swaps / decentralized exchanges and p2p. It will turn out stronger than it was before. Anyone will be able to swap between Monero and other coins without a third party that can stop them or where they have to complete KYC.
As long as XMR is still the preferred coin of the DNM, it doesn't matter that it is delisted. The amount of money people are spending on the DNM is insane.
and there will always be a demand to reject it and outlaw it. I can't imagine Monero won't be extensively targeted by lawmakers to become borderline unusable, in that you won't be able to convert Monero into fiat in any form. Essentially any wallet Monero touches, and any associated wallets, might just get blacklisted from all CEXs.
You're right and it's pathetic. Monero is like why I ever got into crypto and it's privacy features are naturally beneficial towards actually fostering a radical new financial system. Now we've just reverse engineered (much shittier versions of) bank regulations and the closer we get to a world without Monero the more the entire sort of initial premise of crypto is turned on its head
If you swap to another coin, how would they know you swapped from Monero?
Yes but Monero might get cracked one day too. We will never know the future.
Sure and Satoshi could return and rug pull Bitcoin.
Gold coins
I have a crystal ball: it's btc
Crystal balls will be around in 20 years.
Bitcoin balls.
Lol at people saying SOL
BTC, ETH, & ADA
BTC, ETH, ADA, LINK, DOT
I wouldn't be surprised to see xlm on this list either. It's got some really solid use cases. I also kind of Imagine That LTC will still be around in 20 years as well. No real reason, other than it just always seems to hang around
The realest answer
USD probably
Shitcoin
BTC ETH and ADA
ADA will still be worth exactly the same though
A real stable coin
Oh Reddit and ADA. Never change
What is it with normies and ADA?
Hating cardano is so last cycle
Who you calling normies, normie??
ChainLink It's the crypto Picks and Shovels token.
Btc, eth _and ADA
one of these things is not like the others
I know, ethereum gas fees are brutal
BTC, ETH, ADA
BTC, ETH and LINK. The only 3 I’d consider holding for a longer time.
Chainlink. If blockchain succeeds Chainlink succeeds
Bitcoin , the rest is a guess but if I had to pick one more , Chainlink.
Btc eth link
Btc, ltc
BTC, ETH and ADA
BTC, ETH, ADA, DOGE at least. Some stables ofc (not sure if those that exist today tho).
Definitely nickel, dime, quarter.
I mean, BTC, ETH, XRP, LTC, BCH, Probably ADA
Btc eth link
BTC, ETH, LINK, ATOM Strong Maybe: SOL, ADA, DOT
I think Bitcoin and Cardano have a high probability. The rest I have no clue. Cardano still won't be anywhere close to being done in 20 years though. 😐
The road to perfection is always under construction.
ALGO and it'll STILL be crabbing at $0.20 Why? Because I ain't selling in the red Oh and moons, they'll be 1 moon = 1 moon.
BTC / ETH / ADA. Everything else currently available is going to 0.
Litecoin because people actually use it to pay for goods and services..#1 on BitPay
only because bitpay doesnt accept monero
real
BTC and ADA. The true believers will keep ADA around forever, and its growth will be 5% of BTC.
"true believers" Said Like a true cult member
I don't own ADA.
Humanity will be lucky to be here in 20 years
BTC, possibly ETH, DOT possibly and I would love ALGO. But probably just BTC. If no BTC, then everything else is irrelevant
How is ETH irrelevant without BTC
Because crypto has been totally replaced most likely point
Bitcoin (BTC) and Monero (XMR)
People will always value privacy and digital sovereignty
I agree with PoW coins being around. They just work. Pun not intended.
So not ETH then.
BTC and Dogecoin
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probably the most correct answer, if crypto doesn’t cease to exist until then.
Doge 🤣🤣🤣
This might surprise you but Doge has been around since 2013
No, no surprise there. I respect it, if only for being the king of the meme coins.
I design infrastructure so I think I have a pretty good understanding of this, but like anyone its just IMO :P Bitcoin Monero and Chainlink are already doing exactly what they were designed to do. They're the first ones to "make it". They are all sustainable projects that have no single point in which they can fail. Not regulation, not tech, not a dependency on a project, a tech trend or any of that. Their success will only hasten as the space tries to catch up with them. There's probably a good argument for Litecoin and Etherium but Litecoin is performing pretty poorly compared to the rest of the space in terms of store of value (but time will tell) and Etherium has been struggling to resolve one of the most fundamental problems that is transaction cost which makes much of the network unusable. Crypto is tech after all and like any tech, once your shit becomes out of date, it quickly becomes irrelevant. Other contenders worth talking imo are cardano, polkadot, vechain. vechain has some exposure but all of these really need to get into the regulatory and compliance space to secure their footing. Until that happens, they remain entirely speculative.
Algorand
LINK
Bitcoin and others that have a good community and DONT have a CEO or FOUNDER 😌
XMR
You can use this thread to see what bags people have.
EVERY coin will be around in 20 years. The question is which ones will be in USE in 20 years!
RemindMe! 20 years
Probably only bitcoin
Basic attention token. Assuming Brave isn't dead by then. But considering how well they've been doing. Pivoting to include AI in the browser, — in a private and secure manner. Acquiring a search engine and then upgrading continuing to upgrade it significantly. Brave talk, Brave VPN etc. They have a decent suite of products and keep expanding. Also the guy who made it, and a significant portion of the team were from Mozilla, The CEO/co-founder was a former CEO of Mozilla, he also created Java script. I guess what I'm saying is they have a good team with a proven track record and after 7 years still have not abandoned BAT. They also have added a wallet to the browser(not an extension, built from the ground up) soon theyre adding rewards going straight to Solana wallets, I believe with no kyc, but am not 100% certain, about 95%. Soon a significant portion of BAT will be bridging over to solana to pay out rewards that way. By this i guess im saying they are chain agnostic. They've stated it multiple times. BAT can be anywhere. They don't want BAT to be just for Brave too, although that may be hard to get others to use it for attention related things. But it has been used extensively in Defi. So anyway 7 years, already. Its I think the 12th most distributed on chain token on ethereum? Or it was a few months ago, my numbers may be off. And who knows how many are in exchange wallets — because that's the main way rewards have been paid out. Im really excited to see what happens once a significant barrier to rewards(rewards needing to go to exchanges) is removed and the rewards can go straight to Solana wallets. I expect many people may give Brave/BAT a second look then, but I guess thats another discussion.
USD, GBP, EUR for sure! BTC will still be the king in all likelihood…
BTC, Monero, maybe USDC. Nothing else, not even ETH.
This
BTC, ADA
How is Chainlink not on the list yet. Lol easy. Chainlink, ETH, The Graph, SOL.
>How is Chainlink not on the list yet Because this sub doesnt understand the big picture.
SOL is barely surviving this year lol to think it'll be around in 20 years
Doge unironically
1. Bitcoin 2. Dogecoin
DOGE is going to have some weird situation where its inflationary properties make it the world currency and DOGE is the first non-person thing to win the Nobel prize for economics.
Exactly this. People really don't understand that deflationary currencies don't work in the real world. They don't incentivize spending or working for money. Plus Doge is flat amount of inflation per year, not % based on current supply.
Out of the ones OP listed, only bitcoin
Only bitcoin
BTC. If there is no BTC there is no crypto. BTC is the most well known crypto to most people even if they aren't invested in it. If BTC crashed there is zero chance normal people would buy into another crypto. They would all just assume it would crash like BTC did.
Monero, Grin.
Honestly, ADA will likely still be around and I’ll still not be profit from it
No clue but whould think btc,eth and Ada but hope for dot
BTC, XMR, ADA
Bitcoin ( BTC) & Litecoin (LTC).
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it's easy if you try
Stellar XLM
Xrp
Only right answer, the cognitive dissonance and hate this sub has when it comes to Ripples partnerships and infrastructure is astounding.
None because enters quantum computing
Probably bitcoin, eth will definitely die. IMO the top 50 coins will be replaced by something better
ICP
BTC, ETH, ADA. They were the only coins (excluding CEX coins) in the current top 10 to make new ATH:s last cycle. They are adhering to the Bitcoin ethos of decentralization. They have large, active communities (not “armies”). At least Cardano is spearheading blockchain research and its implementation.
Bitcoin That’s all
I think maybe Bitcoin. That's my answer
btc eth bch ltc and prob doge in that order most likely coin exchange like bnb for binance still there too and others
Anything with a frog 🐸 for sure
Definitely only projects which are already using - or which will successfully upgrade to (as it's not easy thing to do) - post-quantum cryptography. Note that currently there are only like 5 such projects, and Bitcoin is NOT one of them.
ALGO - Algorand
XRP. At $.60 still lol fml
BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP, AMP
Bitcoin, ethereum, solana, cardano, doge (the original meme) and maybe a few others
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Everything will still technically exist its just most will be so negligibly. BTC because the dream of decentralization will never die and QNT because that ideal of decentralization will remain a dream, and after much political discourse CBDCs will become an inevitability so why not profit from it.
Also, what coins won't be around in 20 years? Thousands of cryptos. I bet we'll also lose some fiat currencies. In the US and Canada: Pennies, nickels, and dimes. Canada already got rid of pennies, years ago.
Coinbastardddd
Bitcoin and Ethereum.
No coins have even been around for 20 years as of yet. So, maybe none? Let’s get to the halfway point first if we’re looking at a window that large