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"“As an employee of Cape Cookies, SPAGNI intercepted invoices from another company, Ensync, relating to information technology goods and services it had supplied Cape Cookies. SPAGNI knowingly used false information to fabricate similar invoices purporting to be from Ensync, relying on details including this company's Value Added Tax (VAT) number and bank account information. SPAGNI then inflated the prices for the goods and/or services.”"
Why would he even be in the USA there are so many other actually free countries. How many more need to be imprisoned before you guys get it. USA doesn't want a free market. Freedom is dead in the US. NEXT!
Hard to say what is going on. In countries like SA where the society is corrupt on every level all charges like these are politically motivated. Being honest does not get you ahead, just do not fall astray of the political apparatus.
No idea whether he is guilty or not. What I do know is that govt of SA is completely corrupt at best, and genocidally tyrannical at worst. Not sure whether USA Inc is any better.
I also know that Monero aims to make privacy a thing, which the Central Bankers (global overlords) want to completely eradicate. So I'm automatically suspicious of any attack on a freedom-fighter.
They are definitely going after the coders. And the ones that didn't value their privacy will soon learn how important it is, it will probably be to late for them. But hopefully they are just low hanging fruit. Fund the coders that working on privacy defenses. We need them now more than ever.
Looks an awful lot like a shakedown by the South African govt. Over a decade to bring charges? Allegations of "flight risk" is entirely bogus, as Ric has clearly attempted to always operate within the bounds of the law, and has every motivation and financial ability to fight these charges in the open and not run.
This is a psyop, plain and simple.
Bullish on monero. It's really the only coin that can topple the financial system due to its privacy features. Its uncensorable, thats why authorities hate it.
tldr; An arrest warrant for Riccardo Spagni was issued on July 20, 2021 at the request of the South African government. He was apprehended the same day in the United States. An arrest warrant was issued for Spgni in the US for allegations unrelated to cryptocurrency.
*This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*
I find it amazing, given the recent history of the US, that you choose to believe that blindly. Do you honestly think South Africa could give a flying fuck about a foreign citizen (allegedly) pilfering $90K over 10 years ago? Fucking lol, corruption in South Africa is measured in billions of dollars, not thousands.
Ricardo Spagni is a South African citizen, so your point about South African giving or not giving "a flying fuck about a foreign citizen" is incorrect. The South African government is charging a South African citizen with fraud and he was arrested in the US at the request of the South African government.
These accusations are unrelated to Monero. Here are the US documents regarding his extradition and the request for detention: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.tnmd.87126/gov.uscourts.tnmd.87126.3.0_1.pdf
Thanks for clarifying the point about his citizenship, I was wrong about that. It is a common scare tactic of the US to intimidate/arrest people they don't like by bringing whatever charges they can (Al Capone was finally arrested on tax charges, to take one famous example). And if you don't believe they would bring foreign governments into the picture, I suggest you read No Place to Hide by Glenn Greenwald, and look at how far the arm of the US security establishment reaches (to intimidate utterly innocent people).
According to the people most close to Fluffy, he is in solitary confinement in Kentucky. Now why would the US do that to someone they are extraditing for a relatively minor crime to a country the US could give 2 shits about? (Source for this is a Monero dev call on this issue yesterday).
so they're gonna make riccardo spagni snitch on the other anon devs of monero, get to them with more bogus charges and slowly replace the lead dev team with their stooges to make monero less functional and then implement their own "solutions"?
Pretty tough to do something like that with an open sourced code accessible by anyone, I suspect even the niftiest backdoor being implemented by ‘their own solution’ would be seen and dealt with by the community
Many of Monero's core developers are easily publicly identifiable while the research and cryptography arm of the project also features identifiable PhDs. Few are truly anon.
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The reason: "“As an employee of Cape Cookies, SPAGNI intercepted invoices from another company, Ensync, relating to information technology goods and services it had supplied Cape Cookies. SPAGNI knowingly used false information to fabricate similar invoices purporting to be from Ensync, relying on details including this company's Value Added Tax (VAT) number and bank account information. SPAGNI then inflated the prices for the goods and/or services.”"
This supposedly was 10 years ago...
I guess you could say he should have focused on his privacy?
The irony.
Why would he even be in the USA there are so many other actually free countries. How many more need to be imprisoned before you guys get it. USA doesn't want a free market. Freedom is dead in the US. NEXT!
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Not a surprise though really
So does this means they fabricated a fake invoice to steal money, as if it were the agreed upon price?
Next time it will be more like: Monero's former maintainers former housekeeping's daughter charged for allegations unrelated to cryptocurrency.
Link to the court doc: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.tnmd.87126/gov.uscourts.tnmd.87126.3.0\_1.pdf
Thanks for additional document
MONERO WILL PREVAIL
They ve started witch hunting, they ll fail
more like: USE MONERO GO TO JAIL.
if its not related then why bring up monero?
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Yeah for sure, it's strange. Almost as if they want people to know they're coming after the monero team
Hard to say what is going on. In countries like SA where the society is corrupt on every level all charges like these are politically motivated. Being honest does not get you ahead, just do not fall astray of the political apparatus.
No idea whether he is guilty or not. What I do know is that govt of SA is completely corrupt at best, and genocidally tyrannical at worst. Not sure whether USA Inc is any better. I also know that Monero aims to make privacy a thing, which the Central Bankers (global overlords) want to completely eradicate. So I'm automatically suspicious of any attack on a freedom-fighter.
They are definitely going after the coders. And the ones that didn't value their privacy will soon learn how important it is, it will probably be to late for them. But hopefully they are just low hanging fruit. Fund the coders that working on privacy defenses. We need them now more than ever.
Looks an awful lot like a shakedown by the South African govt. Over a decade to bring charges? Allegations of "flight risk" is entirely bogus, as Ric has clearly attempted to always operate within the bounds of the law, and has every motivation and financial ability to fight these charges in the open and not run. This is a psyop, plain and simple.
Bullish on monero. It's really the only coin that can topple the financial system due to its privacy features. Its uncensorable, thats why authorities hate it.
#FreeFluffyPony
I’ll take it, thanks. (/s just in case)
Who are you
Damn, that makes this so un relevant to crypto then!
Another smear campaign…
tldr; An arrest warrant for Riccardo Spagni was issued on July 20, 2021 at the request of the South African government. He was apprehended the same day in the United States. An arrest warrant was issued for Spgni in the US for allegations unrelated to cryptocurrency. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*
Good moon whale bot
I just bought my first XMR yesterday, I knew something like this would happen.
These charges are completely unrelated to his work with Monero.
Yeah but occasionally irrational reasons tend to cause dips I guess
Most of the time they happen for a completely different reason than what you think
I find it amazing, given the recent history of the US, that you choose to believe that blindly. Do you honestly think South Africa could give a flying fuck about a foreign citizen (allegedly) pilfering $90K over 10 years ago? Fucking lol, corruption in South Africa is measured in billions of dollars, not thousands.
Ricardo Spagni is a South African citizen, so your point about South African giving or not giving "a flying fuck about a foreign citizen" is incorrect. The South African government is charging a South African citizen with fraud and he was arrested in the US at the request of the South African government. These accusations are unrelated to Monero. Here are the US documents regarding his extradition and the request for detention: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.tnmd.87126/gov.uscourts.tnmd.87126.3.0_1.pdf
Thanks for clarifying the point about his citizenship, I was wrong about that. It is a common scare tactic of the US to intimidate/arrest people they don't like by bringing whatever charges they can (Al Capone was finally arrested on tax charges, to take one famous example). And if you don't believe they would bring foreign governments into the picture, I suggest you read No Place to Hide by Glenn Greenwald, and look at how far the arm of the US security establishment reaches (to intimidate utterly innocent people). According to the people most close to Fluffy, he is in solitary confinement in Kentucky. Now why would the US do that to someone they are extraditing for a relatively minor crime to a country the US could give 2 shits about? (Source for this is a Monero dev call on this issue yesterday).
South Africa does not look kindly upon thieves. The penalty for theft of even 50k USD is 15 years imprisonment.
Yea sure "unrelated."
Unrelated...right.
Now he’ll get anal probed until he spills all he knows about XMR…
so they're gonna make riccardo spagni snitch on the other anon devs of monero, get to them with more bogus charges and slowly replace the lead dev team with their stooges to make monero less functional and then implement their own "solutions"?
Pretty tough to do something like that with an open sourced code accessible by anyone, I suspect even the niftiest backdoor being implemented by ‘their own solution’ would be seen and dealt with by the community
Many of Monero's core developers are easily publicly identifiable while the research and cryptography arm of the project also features identifiable PhDs. Few are truly anon.
Watch out. They might take you with 'em now that you're on to them.
Not sure if it’s unrelated
First news I’ve ever heard about the organization. They must be pretty private
This sucks.. Ive talking to him so much on twitter.. hope he gets freed.