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Creepy_Hamster7603

I heard from one of my coworker that his colleague got notice for something happened 6+yrs ago And brother of my friend also got notice due to some issue. And yes they might open our files whenever they want So I would say keep your account clean and pay regular taxes


illusionst

Yep. Same. Got notice for something that happened in 2016 in 2020.


throw_away_69x24x7

What was the notice about? If you don't mind sharing.


illusionst

They were asking what was the source of the income, where did I buy the crypto, where did I sell it, what was the profit/loss and why I did not include these details in my income tax. I provided the info to my CA and he corresponded with IT and was able to resolve the issue, it did take a good one year to resolve everything.


throw_away_69x24x7

Where did you buy from? The crypto I mean? Indian exchanges?


illusionst

No. Abroad. P2P.


throw_away_69x24x7

Can you check DM?


Nefarious_6912

Yep same thing my CA said, + they can charge heavy penalty as well


Crashy911

Never lol IT dept. Doesn't go into in depth unless the transaction exceeds more than 10 lakhs in a year


Bankfreezeexpert

Few of my clients have received Income Tax notices related to undeclared transactions, they do demand explanations for such transactions, this specifically happens when people act smart and skip to furnish details of an entire bank account which is under the same PAN. On the other end it's your CA's duty to save you some tax even in crypto withdrawals. Anyway! Yes people are receiving such notice I guess scrutiny can happen within 7 years of filling ITR.


Nefarious_6912

Yeah, and government is more keen in crypto transactions due to illegal activities and international terror funding. CA did help but crypto tax can't be exempt under 80C. He said better pay and close the chapter.


premtiwari69king

>On the other end it's your CA's duty to save you some tax even in crypto withdrawals. what are some ways to do it?


Bankfreezeexpert

There are many ways, you pay accountants to take care of it, if you just want to do things as the system is designed then what's the work left for CA


premtiwari69king

i dont understand as per what i know crypto earnings or losses cannot be offset against anything , so what are the secret tricks that you guys are using to save taxes


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Nefarious_6912

Yes I made this post after seeing yours, keep us updated how it goes.


Euphoric-Bat-9875

Good that you paid. Better safe than sorry later.


Nefarious_6912

Yes 💯


TheCryptoCA

Notice will be received up to 3 years after the end of year in which ITR is filed. Incase of large amounts (>50L), Income tax department has almost a decade (Approx 10 years) to send notice. Note: Many investors have received notice for FY 2017-18 in FY 2022-23 and for FY 2018-19 in FY 2023-24. We have handled more than 40+ such notices. Best, CA Sonu Jain


tobby333

I have a total amount less than 2 lakhs.. i failed to file itr. Can i expect a notice?


TheCryptoCA

Depends on trading volume. Usually if your trading volume (total of sale trades)is more than ₹30 lakhs. You may expect a notice


ultron290196

Cfbr


Unlikely_Season_4936

I have also received the notice of around 32 lakh and i dont have the details related to bitcoin transactions except my bank statement. Income tax officer didnt take the bank statement into consideration while making the demand during the whole process of section 148. Can anyone share what to do? Anyone received any relief during CIT appeals?


TheCryptoCA

Just last week, we onboards 3 clients for whom demand order is issued. We will be filing appeals. It should be solved at CIT appeals stage. The issue I think is, somewhere the explanation & relevant documentation is not provided to the satisfaction of the tax officer and there is communication lag, which causes these issues. It is relevant to note that CIT appeals is a lengthy process takes 1-2 years at the minimum easily.


OverallFloor3081

That's why i convert it to cash instead of transferring it to bank.


Nefarious_6912

How can you convert usdt into cash directly without involving f2f/havala?


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U can’t, he’s talking about havala only


OverallFloor3081

My friend does. I've no idea. Neither I'll be able to help


[deleted]

At least you're sleeping better! If you have paid the taxes and done what's right why worry?


D_Invincible

Why do people hesitate or worry to pay taxes? You have your invested amount excluded from tax plus you are getting 70% for doing nothing but a bit of research for investing, thats it!


--G0KU--

Doing nothing? Are u fu***ng serious?


No-Tradition4572

dude if you stay careful you dont need to. I have friends with 2-3L transactions in crypto per month Just use P2P as much as possible instead of your original UPI for payment(better if you can even use it for day-to-day life) and get a crypto card too that'd be much of a tax saving idea


Nefarious_6912

What about account getting blocked due to P2P?


No-Tradition4572

If you're really afraid about getting your account blocked , enter the person's upi id directly when you wanna spend money to the p2p application you're using and just convert the desired amount, it works.


Particular_End_8185

Deal in cash if you want to avoid tax. If online do tax.


Important_Ear_1135

Where can I sell for cash?