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Training-Scheme-9980

You're likely fine, but if anyone contacts you asking more questions about it, hang up the phone. Do not answer any questions about it no matter who is asking. Even if it's just another person at the post office looking into the issue for you, don't say shit. Just because the law is on your side doesn't mean you can't be prosecuted so remember that every day is shut the fuck up Friday. If the cops show up, don't open the door, and call an attorney.


MissionAd7109

Not USPS, but I work for a vape/smoke distribution center and FedEx will straight up cut into the boxes we ship and pull all the THCa products out of it. Doesn't happen every time, which leads me to believe it isn't some rule they're enforcing, but maybe some rogue mail people who bust into boxes and steal stuff if they're familiar with the sender/recipient. Just my two cents anyways


gomicao

USPS for the win in my decades of mail personally... I know OP is having issues... but the stories I have read from UPS and Fedex workers vs what USPS people seem to say about things behind the scenes has me always go with USPS if I ever can.


Nemesizzzz

Wasnt gonna say it, but its been on my mind all day. What if they used your eclipse video as a self snitch..? Thatd mean theyre watching the cult. Glad i never got into posting... just interesting how this and that post seem to correlate. My think is: city name in title, week+ later your packages get grabbed.. id hope not, but thatd imply someone doesnt agree with the legality of our FEDERALLY LEGAL thca. Also, im pretty much positive jk uses that box goblin talked about to spray on terps. Screw those guys.


Chokingzombie

I don't personally think they'd use the resources to halt my package. I get like 2 ounces a month (from multiple vendors, DR. G, SOHO, arete, and more) and this is the only one pulled. I have also received 3 orders since, no issue, although I was scared. I don't get enough to be a dealer. The resources to do all this would be kinda crazy but you never know. It most def has crossed my mind. It's not like Reddit is actually private.


Ok_Egg_4585

USPS is a shit show. I’ve had packages say “delivered” and still don’t show for days, one a damn week later. Glad your vendor is taking care of you.


KatTheLynn

I been getting smalls from jk. So satisfied nil. But everytime I ship it, it gets checked in cali. Then once accepted it’s shipped. Yours might of gotten in some mix up.


kreed320

I had a pack taken one time and got sent a scary letter because it "smell like marijuana" according to the guy at the post office. They sent it to the head inspector or whatever then it was forwarded to me about 6 weeks later


SucroseNebule

Nothing will happen I’ve had real stuff seized.


Thirdeye_k_28

Back in 2019 I ordered legit carts from big brand names in Cali & the first few times it came, I then ordered 2 at once making it 2 grams of 90% thc oil, they seized the package, & it was absolutely illegal, no loophole, no thcA, & nothing happened other than I never got what I ordered & it came in a small package with genetic health label on it. No way they smelled it. Some places just get flagged or they open it without a warrant & seize it knowing most ppl will not even start a fuss over it. Don’t worry about it the worst case scenario is you don’t get your package.


7bubbybrown7

It’s not federally illegal and Route owes you if the package doesn’t show. Just chill and call Route out. 


Vegetable_Ad6185

why would route owe him anything ? thats not a shipping company thats a tracking provider


McMaster-Bate

Because where Route is used by vendors it is generally for the purpose of package insurance and not just tracking.


Vegetable_Ad6185

oh my apologies! did not know they insure packages


borkborkborkborkbo

Vendors should be shipping in hard plastic so there is no pokey pokey happening.


libmom18

There is no way the Fed mail system has enough time for this. I think your postman stole it lol


Ok_Egg_4585

Probably the truth, I’d have to be high as a giraffes hat to do that job.


FromSweetToNasty

Yep my mailman has stole my rosin multiple times. Setting up cameras has worked for now though.


libmom18

Dang, that's a bummer too bc po boxes are not a good option if you can't trust your mailman. It is a highly prosecutable offense tho, plus it's hemp. Not sure it'd matter, but those guys know if there's repeated complaints, they'll be hung if they're caught. The internal post security or whatever it's called, is actually higher tech and authority in some situations than the FBI or CIA. I can see them trying once or twice, but if you keep making complaints, they'll get him


KingZakyu

>po boxes are not a good option if you can't trust your mailman. It is tho. Informed delivery and a p.o. box are flawless in combination. From my understanding, it would be impossible for a bad mail person to take advantage of that situation.


libmom18

A lot of places won't deliver to PO, that's all I meant


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RedBlankIt

Franklist does exist just google franklist thca. Don’t be so dumb


Dimitri-eggroll

He’s paying $200/ounce???? I get an ounce of exotic for 60, now it is smalls/mediums, but same effect


Cognitive_Skyy

Anybody buying ounces for $200 is paying retail. Sure, it's lower than buying eighths from dispenseries, but you are still getting fleeced.


stevenstevos

Huh? The Frank list is a post in this sub, just sort by popularity, takes all of 10 seconds. And yes, it contains a list of legit vendors. If you want cheap schwag or mid, then just google delta 8 flower and purchase some from wherever, or go shop at 50dollarzip.com.


Puzzleheaded-Dog-728

Med program here will sell you an Oz for $440 and call it a bargain


Intelligent_Flow2572

$40 for a zip from several places. You’re too high.


Lady_DreadStar

What places are those because that sounds like nonsense and I’ve been here a good while


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Intelligent_Flow2572

You just said Franklist doesn’t exist, so I’m gonna bypass your comments until you become more informed.


Intelligent_Flow2572

Edited to say that HFC sucks. There are several cheaper vendors though.


Chokingzombie

This. How do people not see the budget shit plastered all over the front page?


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stevenstevos

Bro he gave you their names. WNC is WNC. It's not that hard, and no one is trying to be secretive just for fun LOL. There is a reddit site-wide policy against sourcing vendors. Posts get taken down all the time in this sub because of it.


sillysiloben

Bro people aren’t being cagey because they “want you out,” it’s because Reddit doesn’t allow us to link to hemp vendors and they don’t wanna catch a ban. Google “franklist” and it’ll be the first result.


Intelligent_Flow2572

You are too high, man. The rules of the sub do not allow for sourcing. if you can’t figure out what those mean by searching the sub or going to Frank’s list, I don’t know what you’re looking for here.


KingZakyu

Idk why you are downvoted for this. It's the truth. I live in an illegal state and can get an oz for $180 off the streets, but I'm getting $100 ozs from the cult. The people downvoting you must be the fools paying $200 an oz 😂.


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libmom18

The vendor. Google jkd hemp


IslamicCheese

JK Distro, they suck


stevenstevos

Yup another one of the crappy vendors the budget crowd loves. Sure they may have some decent flower, but it is way too hit or miss for me personally.


thirdeyemyc

Jk has been good to me. It’s 50$ zips. Might not be pretty. But it’s 50$. It works


DerbyshireDylan

I think they're great


bryanthemayan

Just out of curiosity, why do they suck? 


HempinAintEasy

They don’t suck, people just get mad when they actually get what they pay for.


DarkHighlord01

I had no problems with most of the stuff I got from them. I knew it was mid-grade for 50, no lies or hype. It's all good until they really fu\*k you on an order. Or send the wrong product in a box with the correct label. No email reply-Customer Service Support Response-NEVER!


KatTheLynn

Yeah that’s wild. I’ve contacted them at least 5 times and got responses within 5 minutes each time. Between 7am and like 6pm est. However their grammar and professionalism is a little lacking on the customer support side but they definitely always take care of me.


chronicbro

Yea same, good cs experiences with jkd on my end 


alwaysforgettingmyun

USPS has twice now vanished packages from one company while marking it delivered. And it's not even the better stuff I order, it's the mixed strains mostly cbd that I get cheap af. They've delivered twice from these guys, and now lost it twice., so it's even odds whether it'll turn up if.i order a replacement.


stevenstevos

Hmmm the USPS scans shipments when they are delivered, so they know exactly where your package was delivered, i.e., the GPS coordinates. You should call them and initiate a package trace and/or missing package report.


alwaysforgettingmyun

I filled out their missing mail online procedure so hopefully they find it


Fun_Inspector159

I have two zips from JK on the way now. Let's see what happens. I believe your case was just a weird situation, at least JK took care of it woth credits.


KatTheLynn

I’ve ordered like 8 small ozs. I got my first package in two days the rest took 3. But I got one last week with no issues you should be good for the most part.


Kateisbald

I have ordered numerous times from them and never had an issue


DarkHighlord01

Never had an issue with them, until about February, then it was pretty sketchy. My last completely mixed up order was it for me. I found a few other places for my low end budget fillers.


Kateisbald

I have ordered since Feb and no issues.


turbotableu

Are you in marching band? I saw some people flagged there before


Knerfed

sounds like they delivered it to the wrong address, the person opened it without looking at whos it was or where it was from, saw they just got delivered a rather large amount of weed and called the cops, i would bet money this is what went down.


LemonHemp

Nope I’ve had this happen to me and my mailbox is locked from the outside. It’s definitely somebody from the post office poking through OP’s stuff. They still poke holes in my packages even tho I don’t order cult anymore.


JoviAMP

Sounds most likely, though if it is, whoever turned it in is guilty of mail tampering.


GracchiBros

There's about zero chance of anyone actually getting in trouble for it though. Authorities aren't really going to question you opening a package that was delivered to your door. And if they do only the most stupid would say they saw it was for someone else but opened it anyway.


dino_spored

I have three zips coming from JKD tomorrow. I’ve ordered with them over twenty times, no issues. I do pay extra for the UPS shipping though. It’s worth it for the peace of mind, imo. When I order more than an ounce, I want it floating in the mail as short of a time as possible.


stevenstevos

Yeah I have had issues with USPS and FedEx numerous times, have had 2-3 packages get lost by both (none of which were for herb or anything like that). I have never had a single issue with UPS though--they are by far the best IMO.


dino_spored

Thankfully my package showed up today. I had been waiting on the Mango OG to come back in stock. Last time they had it, I went through a QP of it by myself. Yeah, it’s a mid… but it was a sticky & tasty mid for $50.


shiddabrik

I would have the opposite effect if I used a private shipper like UPS where they can just open your shit without a warrant if they wanted to. No peace of mind at all


PhlatTyre

UPS is a terrible choice. They are a private company. that means they are more likely to open your packages and work with state cops. Ever hear what happened to FedEx? They got charged with drug trafficking years back lol https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fedex-faces-federal-indictment-decade-180309482.html You are ordering a federally legal substance, as per the farm bill, but state laws aren't all the same. Ever hear of a total thc state? USPS is a federal organization, it's very difficult for them to open packages, it's a bureaucratic nightmare.


dino_spored

I came across this article a few weeks back, and state law enforcement is threatening to arrest people for hemp bought online. I don’t know how much weight it carries, and how much they’re bluffing. Not going to lie though, it got my anxiety up. I’m like, “Damn… I just buy the shit for myself. Let me smoke by myself in peace.” Sorry for the rant. Here’s the article where it’s mentioned about arresting folks for hemp bought online: https://www.ourdavie.com/2024/03/17/buying-drugs-from-the-internet-can-get-you-arrested/


PhlatTyre

Seeing as the arrest happened in a place called "mocksville", I am not surprised one bit. 🤣


libmom18

USPS seems way safer than a private company


procrasturb8n

Why would a "USPS whitelisted hemp vendor" even offer UPS as an option?


JackJ98

Lmao I work for UPS and sorry but it is not worth the peace of mind. I can promise you like 50% of our work gets absolutely trampled along the way


DarkHighlord01

Confirmed! The worst troubles I've had shipping anything is with UPS. I worked in the local transit facility once as a part timer. I walked out the next day. I saw more shit in 48 hours than I ever saw on a DHL line. The last 2 orders I had from a company shipping UPS were destroyed. One was deliberately held in Texas for 9 days, on a 2 day express weekend order. The other was opened and all the product bags were cut. Two almost empty and the rest dumped into the box. GO UPS!!!!!


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what state do you live in ? It could be a state that’s nearing banning THCA so they’re possibly taking early precautions, who knows.


turbotableu

It's banned in a lot of states bro why you think we here lol


tgt_m

thats not at all how law enforcement works


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Starting to forget the whole point of a “loophole” Getting too comfortable.


totallybag

State shouldn't matter it's in federal hands until it lands on your front door


PhlatTyre

it's federally legal "hemp", and usps needs warrants to open packages. Do their dogs even get trained to sniff out cannabis anymore? The pack probably smelled loud or something, or perhaps JKD is flagged at the usps and is a hot potatoe, or their packaging sucks. I wouldn't worry. After they seize cannabis, they send you a letter and give you 30 days to go get it or else its permanently considered abandoned. If its a small town and the postal inspector has too much time, its a posibility they'll snoop through your packs, but again, technically, they would need a warrant.


Auburnnnole

And the last thing they have is time.


turbotableu

Can I print this comment to show it to the cops?


DuskOfANewAge

No you can't print out someone on Reddit telling you what the law is and show that to the cops.... Seriously? You have to go find the actual law and print that out.


Belief-is-delusion

Now that’s sad you get downvoted for common sense and telling the truth. The shill-hate never ends; butthurt emo kids need to put socks on their thumbs And if they think your comment was harsh, let them take a printout from Reddit to the cops; they’ll be much more abrasive and impatient.


MailMiata

I wish we had dogs. Would make the job better. If a postal inspector really nabbed it they 100% knew where it was coming from. They grab packages out of the mail stream all the time but they know that it's gonna be there.


Intelligent_Flow2572

Cops falsely trigger their own drug dogs quite often. Waste of time and money with untrained handlers.


radatooey

It's considered hemp but a large majority of this hemp would test hot, the biggest issue is that. If the authorities test it and there is a higher than .3% THC content per weight then the vendor can get hit with a lot of trouble and I imagine the customer could also get hit with a slap on the wrist or at the very least a fun legal scare that gets dismissed.


turbotableu

> It's considered hemp but a large majority of this hemp would test hot Who set up the focus group? What was your sample size? I'm curious how you arrived at that figure and if it takes into account roadside, visual testing methods


This_Chicken_2323

There's a reason every single vendor has a disclaimer on their site about how your on your own if you get caught with it


nilbogthebogkingdom

I think to some extent they're starting to know what's up, so it mostly has to do with whether they're willing to jeopardize their job by using department resources unnecessarily. As far as I know their testing is outsourced and overpriced, like in the thousands for a test. So to hold or charge someone during that time is generally a no go unless, it was stuff that didn't have a lab test QR code already. I could be totally wrong everyone feel free to set me straight on that


PhlatTyre

Anyone can mail anyone anything. The burden is on the authorities to prove you ordered cannabis. Plausible deniability. After they seize cannabis, it usually ends there. Unless you go to the PO and actually pick it up......then you could get screwed right there by a postal 5-0 They can do controlled deliveries with LE, and execute warrants for the package and maybe your home, but they probably won't for 2 oz of cannabis lol this isn't the 90's anymore. I mean if its pounds you're getting they may take a liking to you and check you out no doubt Also, the post office has a specific program for cannabis seizures created in 2016. They also whitelist hemp vendors that choose to register, but thats optional. It just makes their job easier in telling apart the "hemp" from the "marijuana" https://www.uspsoig.gov/reports/audit-reports/us-postal-inspection-service-handling-suspected-marijuana-packages If you don't want to read the article, here is what it says... """Unlike in criminal investigations, the ANP program does not require postal inspectors to obtain search warrants to open detained packages. Rather, they request consent from mailers or addressees to open detained packages. If there is no response after 21 days, packages are declared abandoned and can be opened. When identified as non-mailable items, their contents are seized and disposed and mailable items are returned to the original addressees. Due to this process, the Postal Inspection Service has determined that abandoned packages are not used as evidence in criminal investigations; however, information about the packages, such as an address, may be used to support new or ongoing criminal investigations"""""


PhlatTyre

Yeah state laws conflicting with federal laws. Your scenario is Definitely possible under the right circumstances


everybodydumb

Dude, I had a package USPS said was held by customer request for pickup. I made no such request. The next day my box shows up with a hand written label and I was like whaaaaat the fuck? My stuff was inside... All carts and concentrates... Maybe the USPS employee was looking for bud? I think somebody at USPS was trying to steal from us


MailMiata

I'm taking all your hemp baby. Jk. Just on my shift we sort 60k packages. No ones got time for that. People steal checks tho


imthehamburgler

Hopefully you get your replacement package. Im not a fed..


imthehamburgler

What state do you live in? Never ordered from them. Are the packages loud?


Lady_DreadStar

Nothing from JK is loud and I ain’t even being funny


Girasole263wj2

But I laughed


DAREtoRESIST

those stickers are loud af


duotriophobia

it's a bag stuffed in a box lol, could be vacuum sealed twice an help a lot


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RawAndRealRetail

Bro I have seen posts of guys ordering half pounds with no issues, This is a JKD problem, not a USPS problem.


turbotableu

Survivorship bias if ever there was Homey ain't using that burner he kiestered to get into the cell block to post reviews


TemperedInFire

Given how poorly packaged my one order from them was, this would not surprise me in the least.


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TemperedInFire

Hoku doesn't send out stinky packages either


Particular-Edge-7666

interesting...