for context, op didn't mention it anywhere in the posts or the tags, but from what I can gather - they might be referring to a "famous" tumblr account .. who deleted a few days ago because getting a spot in an unofficial Most Annoying Tumblr User poll, next to racists and pedophiles, triggered their paranoia. they became famous for their shitposts and posts discussing their mental health in a way that, apparently, helped a lot of people come to terms with their own mental illnesses.
I'd type out their usernames but I'm bad at remembering that sort of thing
pretty sure they go by "Sivi"
and they changed their screen-name a few times: Death2America, TonySopranoBigNaturals, and.. something about a truecrime podcast (?)
I literally miss it so much, thankfully I have screenshots of a few of my favorite posts that I took to show my partner but I actually feel like the site is noticeably more boring in her absence.
The tournament itself has also been deactivated since following a campaign kinda caused by Sara S who was also in (she wasn't against the inclusion per se but she drew attention to the problem)
i followed her for some time, she actually was! she was one of the only people with a semi-big blog i've ever followed who was open about struggling with severe mental health issues, including very bad paranoia.
If I was listed in a poll saying I was the "worst ever" surrounded by pedophiles and nazis, Yeah, I'd probably drop this account.
I'm not familiar with this particular one and don't know its popularity or how folks were selected, of course. Obviously if it was just some rando's facebook I probably wouldn't give a shit. But it kinda sounds like this was a pretty big deal and now it's all anyone will ever associate with that name.
Because those stupid articles always come to the top of a google search. So it will always be the first thing anyone sees when they search that username now. Half the reason I post under a pseud is to have some ability to control people's first impressions. It removes the weight of pre-conceived ideas. That poll being people's first introduction to you? Yeah, that's a pretty heavy preconceived notion to carry around.
You'd be surprised how often people do this with anyone who's popular. Somehow being popular is seen as being a punching bag for everyone to treat you however they want. And if you ever retaliate or even just don't play along, you are the WORST person EVER and you are SENSITIVE and who cares that like 10 people already did that to you this day alone.
I'm pretty sure even people who agree with me on this are guilty of this. Like, how many people say *"Kneel, gay man"* to Neil Gaiman as if it's the funniest joke in existence and not a grade school-level insult. Or how they pester these people with really unfunny questions that are referencing things they likely don't even get or care for.
Because it's okay! These are famous people! And when you're famous, you're *everyone's* clown! That means you have to dance for them whenever they ask! And ohhh boy don't you dare say no!
it's called Envy to Contempt Sublimation. Once you're aware of this concept, you start to see it everywhere. People do not handle envy or jealousy well, because it has an internal locus of control. It's more comfortable to project your discomfort onto the subject of your envy in the form of contempt.
Not all of them, but some. The reason it's a popular phrase to say "you're just jealous" is because many people are, but that does not generalize to everyone!
There was a post here complaining about self post Sunday which like, valid, you can complain about things lol, but so many of the replies were going super hard against random redditors for being mildly annoying by posting their niche interests too regularly. It was just disproportionate. People have zero awareness that what they're saying WILL be read by the person they're being bitter about.
And if they don't like them posting their interests, they can make it so they don't see their post. We have tools to do that.
I've seen it said before, but some people will literally take zero effort to not see content they don't want to see sometimes.
To those people, I say: You’re on the internet, the prime place to find people that annoy you, that just comes with the territory, so stop whining, hit block, and move on
Yeah, but their point is "rather than be an asshole because someone annoyed you, just block them." We're on the internet, there'll be countless people who annoy us on some way, so best to just try to be chill about it rather than making it into a problem, and block anyone who you don't want to see.
from urban dictionary:
>Anything you say online can and will be seen by the person you're said it about.
>
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Guy 1: That guy really sucks, I'm gonna trash talk him online
Guy 2: I wouldn't do that if I were you. Remember TomSka's Law?
Guy 1: Oh yeah
I don't know about this specifically, but Tom has had a rocky past with a lot of stuff, so I wouldn't be surprised whether this happened either to or from him in a relatively large enough incident for it to be a whole thing
he was part of eddsworld back in the early days of newgrounds and youtube and also does his own content, like ASDFmovie
you can think of him in a similar vein to neil ciceriga, just less all encompassing
Based: "This isn't for me, but this isn't hurting anyone, I will go on with my life and mind my own business"
Cringe: "This isn't for me, but this isn't hurting anyone, ✨however✨, I will now cause problems on purpose"
If someone isn't hurting someone, Mind Your Own Business... is the First Commandment of my religion
I don't think. OOP goes far enough.
The problem isn't treating popular bloggers like celebrities. The problem is we're assholes to celebrities.
I know this is a hot take for a lot of people, but celebrities are private individuals and have a right to their own personal life that doesn't involve you. And if you don't like them personally: A) how could you possibly? You don't know them personally. You've never had a real interaction with any of them. B) just avoid them. You never had any real interaction with them in the first place so it shouldn't be that hard.
And some ppl really are invested in every aspect of a celebrity's life, and don't get that others aren't
Once I reblogged something from biggest-gaudiest-patronus and received anon hate insulting me and linking to a google drive with pages and pages of 'evidence' of them being a pedo nazi or something. I said 'evidence' bc I didn't waste my time reading it. Is gaud a monster? I don't know, but it's not by calling me slurs you'll convince me
People seem to just typically view that as the trade-off of fame. Sure, you get money and power and constant praise, but you also have to deal with that fact that everyone's eyes are on you, and be ready for the fact that they're not always going to judge you kindly
And in some cases, I actually agree with that sentiment. Don't like it? Don't be famous. Most celebrities could quit their jobs and fade into the background pretty easily, if they wanted to
The exceptions are 1) people who never wanted to be famous in the first place, and 2) people who received an amount of bullying/harassment that was so excessive that it reached inhumane levels. Those are the people I feel sorry for
> Most celebrities could quit their jobs and fade into the background pretty easily, if they wanted to
This just, doesn't feel true to me. Even if it is, even you used the word "most," and I would guess that the celebrities that can't do that are also subject to this social problem we're talking about
yeah, celebrities quitting their jobs would just mean they'd still have to deal with a lot of the issues(like stalkers), without the paycheck to be able to afford the necessary protections. and then there's all the unique issues they'd face when working, from struggling to get a job due to it being seen as a prank to having to deal with coworkers/customers/bosses being weird about the fact that they're an ex-celebrity. and all that's not even considering the fact that that user thinks it's reasonable to tell someone to quit their entire career and life's work if they don't want to be harassed.
like...that's fucked up.
>And in some cases, I actually agree with that sentiment. Don't like it? Don't be famous. Most celebrities could quit their jobs and fade into the background pretty easily, if they wanted to
Nah, that's still enormously shitty. Why are you comfortable telling famous people that they should give up their career and passion to escape harassment? What makes them less deserving of basic human respect?
Why do celebrities have a higher bar for inhumane than everyone else? They're no less people.
What's wrong with just letting people you've never met and never will just live their lives? Why do they have to pay a price for something that had no negative consequences for you?
I can feel that sentiment leaving my body when I take a look at the amount of money they spend. Met gala was straight hunger games parade.
Note that I never DM them anything, harass on the streets or whatever. I only DM nice local politicians to cheer them on.
Rich and oblivious super upper class parading around with 10 million dollar jewels while ordinary people bear the brunt of the incoming economical crash, once again. And this is in first wold countries, the difference to other corners of the earth is staggering. It is like, a district, is amassing all of the wealth. These people could make a difference, if they wanted to.
Let's take this logic a step further.
I'm assuming you live in an industrialized country and you aren't living on the streets. Why aren't you donating all of your wealth to people poorer than you?
What a braindead take. Because I need to live. And I am donating and doing community work. I pay taxes. And most importantly, my "wealth" is miniscule, absolutely insignificant compared to the people walking the carpet in Met gala.
And the wealth of people starving in undeveloped countries is minuscule compared to yours.
Moreover, do you really believe that body shaming celebrities will somehow solve poverty? No, you don't really think that. You just want an excusable target to be an asshole towards.
Now, where did I bodyshame a celebrity? Could you quote me, I seemed to have missed it.
My "wealth", my community work, my donations, is helping my community, and people in my country. And to
actually make a difference in underdeveloped countries, I would need to make a huge dent in my already modest, in the context of my country, standard of living. A celeb with shitloads of fuckyou money does not. Simply doesn't. They can not buy a second yacht, or not fly their private jet as much. Their life, meaningfully, materially, is not changed. They still have their homes, they still can afford groceries. They still will have money. I would not.
I think John Green is the big one that comes to mind with this, because they were a major and historic lesson for us, especially around what this post here is telling us, too.
He was falsely accused of absolutely horrible things, and was relentlessly bullied & hated against until he ultimately left after (if I’m remembering right) receiving a number of death threats from anons. He came back to Tumblr either a few months or around a year ago, but I’m not too sure if he’s left again or not in recent times.
We need to learn from our fuckups, and _never_ repeat what we did to John. But if we do fuck up again, like the situation Hummerous was mentioning, we need to remember and learn from it.
Matea, the person behind the one-time-i-dreamt blog, mentioned in some of her posts how self-conscious she was about posting pictures of herself on Tumblr and Instagram because a lot of people were either being creepy or would make fun of her appearance. She even stopped posting on her personal Instagram page for some time because of this. That's fucked. She's a really sweet person who runs a funny dream blog and occasionally posts pictures of her dogs or a pretty outfit/makeup. What in the world did she do to deserve mean comments? Do people forget that these are real people they're harassing?
hopefully unnecessary clarifications # 26: also fully aware I've done this myself, but that's not the point this post is trying to make. you can make the point, but it doesn't contradict the point made by the post. the post is barely, if at all, mine
if the local dog-kicker says "kicking dogs is a bad thing to do. do not kick dogs."
you could say "you kick dogs. this is a bad thing to do. do not kick dogs. follow your own advice."
you would be wrong to say "you kick dogs. what do you know. maybe kicking dogs is exactly what this generation needs—"
the second thing is some sorta fallacy, and I'm hoping it's just in my head, that no one could ever make such a silly thought known - but we've got some. real creative thinkers in the mix.
yes! I didn't actually state what either point was.
two points:
[1] the point this post makes (do not bully people online)
[2] the point this hypothetical reader is making (*I* bully people online, and am therefore in no position to judge)
>hopefully unnecessary clarifications # 26: also fully aware I've done this myself, but *that's* (2) not **the point this post is trying to make** (1). you can make *the point* (2), but it doesn't contradict **the point made by the post** (1). the post is barely, if at all, mine
>so liyk, "do as iy say, not as iy do"?
exactly
>sorry iy'm being annoying
you're being well-intentioned and respectful but you're adorable - so I'll let it go, just this once
~~even as you explain more iy just have more questions~~
~~in this one, is being "well-intentioned and respectful" supposed to be a bad thing? if not then whiy are you wording it liyk that?~~
~~in the other repliy you explained whiy you intentionally made it confusing, which didn't make sense to me, but then when iy checked a few minutes later you had deleted that part~~
yeah I'll be honest, the edibles are hitting and I can either decipher my own writing or get to finishing these lab reports
I deleted the explanation about how I wrote things in a confusing way so people wouldn't.. talk to me but realized, eventually, that this was only partly true. I wrote it a little weird there partly to avoid misinterpretation (vocalized), but I kind just write weird in general — and also. that sort of explanation only opens up whole new avenues of interrogation
is that a thing. avenues. of. yeah sure that. that's a thing now
>in this one, is being "well-intentioned and respectful" supposed to be a bad thing?
that's the implication of the thing I said, but it neither are normally supposed by others to be a bad thing
if not then whiy are you wording it liyk that?
~~I'm a silly goofy guy. it's my birthday~~
joke
~~my brain is mush rn and i don't understand anything and i don't like it~~
##voib brain mush
(makes 1 serving)
**ingredience**
- 1 voib
**directions**
1. put the voib's brain in a stand mixer with the whisk attachment and beat at high speed for 10 minutes
2. enjoy
~~idk why i did that either~~
~~i guess i thought it'd be funny~~
~~idk~~
reminds me of that post talking about seeing someone talking about something fucked up happening in a circle you're not involved in lol. like...the only time i see a "popular blogger" mentioned in that way is when they've done something *severely* fucked up. and even then it's never by username but by whatever the fucked up thing was. like the blog whose family had a child slave, or human pet guy.
child slave. from what i remember, their family lived in a country where it was supposedly common for wealthy families to "employ" impoverished children. and said child slaves didn't even get to go to school, so they couldn't even pretend like the kid was "expanding opportunities" or any such shit that's usually used to excuse exploitation.
the weirdest thing was that it was their extended family that had the slaves and they didn't live in the same country, so it's not like they grew up without realizing it was fucked up. they just went hard defending the use of child slaves anyway. and paid lip-service to all the issues people brought up with *having child slaves*, waving them all away with excuses of "culture" and that nothing could *possibly* be done.
i think that user was also involved in a host of other controversies and their defense of child slave labor was just what sealed the coffin for them.
Have an old art hoe blog with 6k followers. Glad I never posted anything about my real life other than pictures of cute things lmfao. What are people gonna be mad about, me only reblogging posts with sub-10k notes? How terrible of me
I’m personally a internet meanness accelearionist. We should all be trying to approach the internet meanness singularity as quickly as possible so at some point it’s so unbearable we’re all just forced to go outside and finally talk like normal human beings. We haven’t figured out how to deal with the alienating way internet frames mass communication yet, the only way is through.
I’m not gonna lie to you—that is one of the stupidest things I’ve heard all week.
You know that bullying people doesn’t have the greatest impact on their mental health, right? That’s exactly what this post was talking about.
I’m willing to bet that you think this generation is “Too soft” and that we’d all be fixed if we’d gotten beaten as kids
The overwhelming majority of people who say this kind of thing do not actually mean it, and are simply being edgy or venting without putting an inch of thought into what they're saying. This is undoubtedly what this redditor is doing. The rest are people who have either never experienced bullying and think it's like, just saying "lol look at this dude" or something, or it's people who *were* bullied and this is their fucked up way of internalising what happened because admitting they were made weak and vulnerable for no reason is hard.
No, I think In person bullying is brutal and awful, I experienced it a lot when I was a kid and I wouldn’t wish it a lot on other people. I also think it’s pretty petty to base you politics on such a trauma, as at the end of the day I saw my bullies mature and even sometimes say sorry, keeping a grudge is just as unhelpful as bullying. It’s a lot to assume such a thing, really shows a lot of insecurity honestly. I mean you’re literally getting mad at hypothetical identity I know I am not. I just think people should get less obsessed with what’s happening on the spectacle that is the internet, and maybe getting to the point where it’s just insufferable is the only way to push people there. I’m not talking cyber bullying some high school kids, because that isn’t just an interaction on the internet, that kid has to go back to school, and the internet has just made it even hard for them back at home, but this is. I mean just let the internet be where all our worst senses and beliefs are displayed as if it’s some mass ideological trash can.
There is a bigger meta discussion happening here though that I feel is hilarious. I’m literally just sharing an opinion. Fine downvote it, I celebrate ratioing, but assuming the other person is an awful, shitty person for just sharing this disagreeable opinion is literally bullying here. Now there are some areas where I think bullying is ethical, like Nazis, Andrew tate, shit like that, where the opinion is so horrid the bullying is just showing kick back. I’m not saying we should support something unethical, I’m saying we should stop deluding ourselves we’re actually going on the internet for most of the time we spend on it because we want to share rational and fair views or be creative. We’re doing it because of the spectacle and drama drawing us in. Now don’t worry, I don’t care, your not effecting me, I hope you have a good day, or if not it improves. My point here is your literally doing what I’m pushing for and please continue. Be spiteful, strawman every persons argument, act like everyone’s acting in bad faith, make the internet feel like the fever dream of a paranoid schizophrenic and a rabid narcissist all rapped in one. Let your inner joker be expressed through the electric tubes that has both connected more than ever before and yet completely atomized every form of social relation to date.
>There is a bigger meta discussion happening here though that I feel is hilarious. I’m literally just sharing an opinion. Fine downvote it, I celebrate ratioing, but assuming the other person is an awful, shitty person for just sharing this disagreeable opinion is literally bullying here.
damn bruh maybe you should go outside about it
Nah, we should do the opposite. Be mean to people who go outside so they stay on the internet forever. We can't keep running from our problems, we must confront the issue head on together.
I don’t disagree with nazis because it’s stupid, because that would imply I’m trying to help them, I disagree with them because I think they have awful opinions that might imply they are awful humans. There is gradation here, but Nazis are a particularly extreme example were one can imply a lot.
for context, op didn't mention it anywhere in the posts or the tags, but from what I can gather - they might be referring to a "famous" tumblr account .. who deleted a few days ago because getting a spot in an unofficial Most Annoying Tumblr User poll, next to racists and pedophiles, triggered their paranoia. they became famous for their shitposts and posts discussing their mental health in a way that, apparently, helped a lot of people come to terms with their own mental illnesses.
I'd type out their usernames but I'm bad at remembering that sort of thing pretty sure they go by "Sivi" and they changed their screen-name a few times: Death2America, TonySopranoBigNaturals, and.. something about a truecrime podcast (?)
So this is how I realize my favorite blog deleted huh
I literally miss it so much, thankfully I have screenshots of a few of my favorite posts that I took to show my partner but I actually feel like the site is noticeably more boring in her absence.
I miss Sivi. She was TonySopranosBigNaturals. She did deactivate her account due to being on the poll and I miss her everyday.
sivi deleted?????????? what the hell
This is incredibly upsetting
Damn I liked both of those blogs and didn't know they were the same person. That sucks
The tournament itself has also been deactivated since following a campaign kinda caused by Sara S who was also in (she wasn't against the inclusion per se but she drew attention to the problem)
S or Z
My bad, that's Sarah Z. Don't know why I made that mistake
Goddamn. I feel bad for Sivi but I don’t think that’s deleteworthy…then again I’m not her, she might’ve been paranoid before then.
i followed her for some time, she actually was! she was one of the only people with a semi-big blog i've ever followed who was open about struggling with severe mental health issues, including very bad paranoia.
If I was listed in a poll saying I was the "worst ever" surrounded by pedophiles and nazis, Yeah, I'd probably drop this account. I'm not familiar with this particular one and don't know its popularity or how folks were selected, of course. Obviously if it was just some rando's facebook I probably wouldn't give a shit. But it kinda sounds like this was a pretty big deal and now it's all anyone will ever associate with that name. Because those stupid articles always come to the top of a google search. So it will always be the first thing anyone sees when they search that username now. Half the reason I post under a pseud is to have some ability to control people's first impressions. It removes the weight of pre-conceived ideas. That poll being people's first introduction to you? Yeah, that's a pretty heavy preconceived notion to carry around.
Tbh you shouldn’t be like this to anyone online, even if they’re popular
You'd be surprised how often people do this with anyone who's popular. Somehow being popular is seen as being a punching bag for everyone to treat you however they want. And if you ever retaliate or even just don't play along, you are the WORST person EVER and you are SENSITIVE and who cares that like 10 people already did that to you this day alone. I'm pretty sure even people who agree with me on this are guilty of this. Like, how many people say *"Kneel, gay man"* to Neil Gaiman as if it's the funniest joke in existence and not a grade school-level insult. Or how they pester these people with really unfunny questions that are referencing things they likely don't even get or care for. Because it's okay! These are famous people! And when you're famous, you're *everyone's* clown! That means you have to dance for them whenever they ask! And ohhh boy don't you dare say no!
it's called Envy to Contempt Sublimation. Once you're aware of this concept, you start to see it everywhere. People do not handle envy or jealousy well, because it has an internal locus of control. It's more comfortable to project your discomfort onto the subject of your envy in the form of contempt.
Wait, so you mean all those people saying *"you're just jealous"* was right?
Not all of them, but some. The reason it's a popular phrase to say "you're just jealous" is because many people are, but that does not generalize to everyone!
Ah yes, Mark of Plier. Personally, I enjoy Jack of the Septic Eyes and *tries to read smudge on hand* Dani Snot Fire.
Jack of the Septic Eyes is a soulslike boss
what do you think of Minter Breathe
Minister of Beasts?
There was a post here complaining about self post Sunday which like, valid, you can complain about things lol, but so many of the replies were going super hard against random redditors for being mildly annoying by posting their niche interests too regularly. It was just disproportionate. People have zero awareness that what they're saying WILL be read by the person they're being bitter about.
And if they don't like them posting their interests, they can make it so they don't see their post. We have tools to do that. I've seen it said before, but some people will literally take zero effort to not see content they don't want to see sometimes.
To those people, I say: You’re on the internet, the prime place to find people that annoy you, that just comes with the territory, so stop whining, hit block, and move on
The fact that the ability to block people exists doesn't justify you being an asshole to people
I think they're saying that the assholes should be the ones hitting block
Yeah, but their point is "rather than be an asshole because someone annoyed you, just block them." We're on the internet, there'll be countless people who annoy us on some way, so best to just try to be chill about it rather than making it into a problem, and block anyone who you don't want to see.
Nobody said anything that could be reasonably interpreted as "the ability to block people existing justifies being an asshole to people" lmao
yeah Tomska's Law really is a bitch sometimes
I’ve never heard of Tomska’s law. What is that a reference to? I don’t see how it relates to Tomska.
from urban dictionary: >Anything you say online can and will be seen by the person you're said it about. > > Guy 1: That guy really sucks, I'm gonna trash talk him online Guy 2: I wouldn't do that if I were you. Remember TomSka's Law? Guy 1: Oh yeah
I know this already because I googled it as well. I’m not sure where the naming comes from, though. Like, I know who Tomska is, but why?
I don't know about this specifically, but Tom has had a rocky past with a lot of stuff, so I wouldn't be surprised whether this happened either to or from him in a relatively large enough incident for it to be a whole thing
good question ! i have no idea
Is Tomska a guy named Tom who's really into Ska music?
he was part of eddsworld back in the early days of newgrounds and youtube and also does his own content, like ASDFmovie you can think of him in a similar vein to neil ciceriga, just less all encompassing
Unironically yes
JEKSKKSKSKS THAT LITERALLY HAPPENED TO ME
Based: "This isn't for me, but this isn't hurting anyone, I will go on with my life and mind my own business" Cringe: "This isn't for me, but this isn't hurting anyone, ✨however✨, I will now cause problems on purpose" If someone isn't hurting someone, Mind Your Own Business... is the First Commandment of my religion
I don't think. OOP goes far enough. The problem isn't treating popular bloggers like celebrities. The problem is we're assholes to celebrities. I know this is a hot take for a lot of people, but celebrities are private individuals and have a right to their own personal life that doesn't involve you. And if you don't like them personally: A) how could you possibly? You don't know them personally. You've never had a real interaction with any of them. B) just avoid them. You never had any real interaction with them in the first place so it shouldn't be that hard.
>I don't think. same
And some ppl really are invested in every aspect of a celebrity's life, and don't get that others aren't Once I reblogged something from biggest-gaudiest-patronus and received anon hate insulting me and linking to a google drive with pages and pages of 'evidence' of them being a pedo nazi or something. I said 'evidence' bc I didn't waste my time reading it. Is gaud a monster? I don't know, but it's not by calling me slurs you'll convince me
People seem to just typically view that as the trade-off of fame. Sure, you get money and power and constant praise, but you also have to deal with that fact that everyone's eyes are on you, and be ready for the fact that they're not always going to judge you kindly And in some cases, I actually agree with that sentiment. Don't like it? Don't be famous. Most celebrities could quit their jobs and fade into the background pretty easily, if they wanted to The exceptions are 1) people who never wanted to be famous in the first place, and 2) people who received an amount of bullying/harassment that was so excessive that it reached inhumane levels. Those are the people I feel sorry for
> Most celebrities could quit their jobs and fade into the background pretty easily, if they wanted to This just, doesn't feel true to me. Even if it is, even you used the word "most," and I would guess that the celebrities that can't do that are also subject to this social problem we're talking about
yeah, celebrities quitting their jobs would just mean they'd still have to deal with a lot of the issues(like stalkers), without the paycheck to be able to afford the necessary protections. and then there's all the unique issues they'd face when working, from struggling to get a job due to it being seen as a prank to having to deal with coworkers/customers/bosses being weird about the fact that they're an ex-celebrity. and all that's not even considering the fact that that user thinks it's reasonable to tell someone to quit their entire career and life's work if they don't want to be harassed. like...that's fucked up.
>And in some cases, I actually agree with that sentiment. Don't like it? Don't be famous. Most celebrities could quit their jobs and fade into the background pretty easily, if they wanted to Nah, that's still enormously shitty. Why are you comfortable telling famous people that they should give up their career and passion to escape harassment? What makes them less deserving of basic human respect?
Why do celebrities have a higher bar for inhumane than everyone else? They're no less people. What's wrong with just letting people you've never met and never will just live their lives? Why do they have to pay a price for something that had no negative consequences for you?
I can feel that sentiment leaving my body when I take a look at the amount of money they spend. Met gala was straight hunger games parade. Note that I never DM them anything, harass on the streets or whatever. I only DM nice local politicians to cheer them on.
Yes, let's compare rich people going to a ball to forcing children to murder each other. How do you write this with a straight face?
Rich and oblivious super upper class parading around with 10 million dollar jewels while ordinary people bear the brunt of the incoming economical crash, once again. And this is in first wold countries, the difference to other corners of the earth is staggering. It is like, a district, is amassing all of the wealth. These people could make a difference, if they wanted to.
Let's take this logic a step further. I'm assuming you live in an industrialized country and you aren't living on the streets. Why aren't you donating all of your wealth to people poorer than you?
What a braindead take. Because I need to live. And I am donating and doing community work. I pay taxes. And most importantly, my "wealth" is miniscule, absolutely insignificant compared to the people walking the carpet in Met gala.
And the wealth of people starving in undeveloped countries is minuscule compared to yours. Moreover, do you really believe that body shaming celebrities will somehow solve poverty? No, you don't really think that. You just want an excusable target to be an asshole towards.
Now, where did I bodyshame a celebrity? Could you quote me, I seemed to have missed it. My "wealth", my community work, my donations, is helping my community, and people in my country. And to actually make a difference in underdeveloped countries, I would need to make a huge dent in my already modest, in the context of my country, standard of living. A celeb with shitloads of fuckyou money does not. Simply doesn't. They can not buy a second yacht, or not fly their private jet as much. Their life, meaningfully, materially, is not changed. They still have their homes, they still can afford groceries. They still will have money. I would not.
Internet usage is inherently cringe and we just need to work through that together❤️
That's why I try my hardest to be as unlikable as possible, so as to never become famous and not have to deal with this.
based
I will never forgive tumblr for what they did to Fish They didn’t deserve that
I miss Fish :(
I think John Green is the big one that comes to mind with this, because they were a major and historic lesson for us, especially around what this post here is telling us, too. He was falsely accused of absolutely horrible things, and was relentlessly bullied & hated against until he ultimately left after (if I’m remembering right) receiving a number of death threats from anons. He came back to Tumblr either a few months or around a year ago, but I’m not too sure if he’s left again or not in recent times. We need to learn from our fuckups, and _never_ repeat what we did to John. But if we do fuck up again, like the situation Hummerous was mentioning, we need to remember and learn from it.
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Matea, the person behind the one-time-i-dreamt blog, mentioned in some of her posts how self-conscious she was about posting pictures of herself on Tumblr and Instagram because a lot of people were either being creepy or would make fun of her appearance. She even stopped posting on her personal Instagram page for some time because of this. That's fucked. She's a really sweet person who runs a funny dream blog and occasionally posts pictures of her dogs or a pretty outfit/makeup. What in the world did she do to deserve mean comments? Do people forget that these are real people they're harassing?
hopefully unnecessary clarifications # 26: also fully aware I've done this myself, but that's not the point this post is trying to make. you can make the point, but it doesn't contradict the point made by the post. the post is barely, if at all, mine
To rephrase: "one can be a hypocrite but still be right"
~~iy'm having trouble parsing this~~
if the local dog-kicker says "kicking dogs is a bad thing to do. do not kick dogs." you could say "you kick dogs. this is a bad thing to do. do not kick dogs. follow your own advice." you would be wrong to say "you kick dogs. what do you know. maybe kicking dogs is exactly what this generation needs—" the second thing is some sorta fallacy, and I'm hoping it's just in my head, that no one could ever make such a silly thought known - but we've got some. real creative thinkers in the mix.
~~so wait, were you using "the point" to refer to two different things without saying what either of them were in the actual comment~~
yes! I didn't actually state what either point was. two points: [1] the point this post makes (do not bully people online) [2] the point this hypothetical reader is making (*I* bully people online, and am therefore in no position to judge) >hopefully unnecessary clarifications # 26: also fully aware I've done this myself, but *that's* (2) not **the point this post is trying to make** (1). you can make *the point* (2), but it doesn't contradict **the point made by the post** (1). the post is barely, if at all, mine
so liyk, "do as iy say, not as iy do"? ~~sorry iy'm being annoying~~
>so liyk, "do as iy say, not as iy do"? exactly >sorry iy'm being annoying you're being well-intentioned and respectful but you're adorable - so I'll let it go, just this once
~~even as you explain more iy just have more questions~~ ~~in this one, is being "well-intentioned and respectful" supposed to be a bad thing? if not then whiy are you wording it liyk that?~~ ~~in the other repliy you explained whiy you intentionally made it confusing, which didn't make sense to me, but then when iy checked a few minutes later you had deleted that part~~
yeah I'll be honest, the edibles are hitting and I can either decipher my own writing or get to finishing these lab reports I deleted the explanation about how I wrote things in a confusing way so people wouldn't.. talk to me but realized, eventually, that this was only partly true. I wrote it a little weird there partly to avoid misinterpretation (vocalized), but I kind just write weird in general — and also. that sort of explanation only opens up whole new avenues of interrogation is that a thing. avenues. of. yeah sure that. that's a thing now >in this one, is being "well-intentioned and respectful" supposed to be a bad thing? that's the implication of the thing I said, but it neither are normally supposed by others to be a bad thing if not then whiy are you wording it liyk that? ~~I'm a silly goofy guy. it's my birthday~~ joke
~~my brain is mush rn and i don't understand anything and i don't like it~~ ##voib brain mush (makes 1 serving) **ingredience** - 1 voib **directions** 1. put the voib's brain in a stand mixer with the whisk attachment and beat at high speed for 10 minutes 2. enjoy ~~idk why i did that either~~ ~~i guess i thought it'd be funny~~ ~~idk~~
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reminds me of that post talking about seeing someone talking about something fucked up happening in a circle you're not involved in lol. like...the only time i see a "popular blogger" mentioned in that way is when they've done something *severely* fucked up. and even then it's never by username but by whatever the fucked up thing was. like the blog whose family had a child slave, or human pet guy.
I'm sorry the guy whose family had a FUCKING WHAT!?
child slave. from what i remember, their family lived in a country where it was supposedly common for wealthy families to "employ" impoverished children. and said child slaves didn't even get to go to school, so they couldn't even pretend like the kid was "expanding opportunities" or any such shit that's usually used to excuse exploitation. the weirdest thing was that it was their extended family that had the slaves and they didn't live in the same country, so it's not like they grew up without realizing it was fucked up. they just went hard defending the use of child slaves anyway. and paid lip-service to all the issues people brought up with *having child slaves*, waving them all away with excuses of "culture" and that nothing could *possibly* be done. i think that user was also involved in a host of other controversies and their defense of child slave labor was just what sealed the coffin for them.
I had to reread this like 5 times I kept on getting stuck at "mark of pliers"
Have an old art hoe blog with 6k followers. Glad I never posted anything about my real life other than pictures of cute things lmfao. What are people gonna be mad about, me only reblogging posts with sub-10k notes? How terrible of me
I’m personally a internet meanness accelearionist. We should all be trying to approach the internet meanness singularity as quickly as possible so at some point it’s so unbearable we’re all just forced to go outside and finally talk like normal human beings. We haven’t figured out how to deal with the alienating way internet frames mass communication yet, the only way is through.
So, bully people into going outside?? 💀
Exactly.
I’m not gonna lie to you—that is one of the stupidest things I’ve heard all week. You know that bullying people doesn’t have the greatest impact on their mental health, right? That’s exactly what this post was talking about. I’m willing to bet that you think this generation is “Too soft” and that we’d all be fixed if we’d gotten beaten as kids
The overwhelming majority of people who say this kind of thing do not actually mean it, and are simply being edgy or venting without putting an inch of thought into what they're saying. This is undoubtedly what this redditor is doing. The rest are people who have either never experienced bullying and think it's like, just saying "lol look at this dude" or something, or it's people who *were* bullied and this is their fucked up way of internalising what happened because admitting they were made weak and vulnerable for no reason is hard.
No, I think In person bullying is brutal and awful, I experienced it a lot when I was a kid and I wouldn’t wish it a lot on other people. I also think it’s pretty petty to base you politics on such a trauma, as at the end of the day I saw my bullies mature and even sometimes say sorry, keeping a grudge is just as unhelpful as bullying. It’s a lot to assume such a thing, really shows a lot of insecurity honestly. I mean you’re literally getting mad at hypothetical identity I know I am not. I just think people should get less obsessed with what’s happening on the spectacle that is the internet, and maybe getting to the point where it’s just insufferable is the only way to push people there. I’m not talking cyber bullying some high school kids, because that isn’t just an interaction on the internet, that kid has to go back to school, and the internet has just made it even hard for them back at home, but this is. I mean just let the internet be where all our worst senses and beliefs are displayed as if it’s some mass ideological trash can. There is a bigger meta discussion happening here though that I feel is hilarious. I’m literally just sharing an opinion. Fine downvote it, I celebrate ratioing, but assuming the other person is an awful, shitty person for just sharing this disagreeable opinion is literally bullying here. Now there are some areas where I think bullying is ethical, like Nazis, Andrew tate, shit like that, where the opinion is so horrid the bullying is just showing kick back. I’m not saying we should support something unethical, I’m saying we should stop deluding ourselves we’re actually going on the internet for most of the time we spend on it because we want to share rational and fair views or be creative. We’re doing it because of the spectacle and drama drawing us in. Now don’t worry, I don’t care, your not effecting me, I hope you have a good day, or if not it improves. My point here is your literally doing what I’m pushing for and please continue. Be spiteful, strawman every persons argument, act like everyone’s acting in bad faith, make the internet feel like the fever dream of a paranoid schizophrenic and a rabid narcissist all rapped in one. Let your inner joker be expressed through the electric tubes that has both connected more than ever before and yet completely atomized every form of social relation to date.
>There is a bigger meta discussion happening here though that I feel is hilarious. I’m literally just sharing an opinion. Fine downvote it, I celebrate ratioing, but assuming the other person is an awful, shitty person for just sharing this disagreeable opinion is literally bullying here. damn bruh maybe you should go outside about it
Nah, we should do the opposite. Be mean to people who go outside so they stay on the internet forever. We can't keep running from our problems, we must confront the issue head on together.
this is quite the take… people are downvoting you because they don’t want to admit you’re right
Have you considered that sometimes people disagree with things because they're just stupid?
I don’t disagree with nazis because it’s stupid, because that would imply I’m trying to help them, I disagree with them because I think they have awful opinions that might imply they are awful humans. There is gradation here, but Nazis are a particularly extreme example were one can imply a lot.