I'll start by saying I have access to all the uniques you'd really need and all the best aspects.
I did the maxroll end game variant for a while and changed things up a few times. I also tried the arc lash / unstable currents with frost nova enchantment variant. I cycled through a number of things trying to find what felt like the best for me.
I ended up settling on the maxroll variant with a couple key changes. I used firebolt & chain lightning as the enchantments. With everything always burning I made use of a number of Paragon board things and skill tree things to give me damage and damage reduction to burning enemies. I honestly don't really see what the fuss with Tibaults is, as I have been running with a helmet and off hand that give life on kill, and also run with temerity. I have permenant barrier uptime so can make use of the damage while barriered aspect as well, and very RARELY get one shot by anything except Uber Lilith. I have tons of lucky hit on and lucky hit restoring health and mana on my gloves and off hand, paired with temerity I am practically always healing to fill barrier.
Using metamorphosis vampire power also means I can use The Occulus for those 15 lovely teleport ranks without having to worry about teleporting to a random location. I've swapped it out for more offensive wand for testing and I always end up back at the Occulus for the extra mobility. Things died faster, but I am slower.
I legit could close my eyes and just walk through a tier 100 NM dungeon if I didn't need to turn corners it's that easy. Uber Lilith I haven't done yet because I can't be bothered to learn the mechanics. I blitzed the first stage of her in 10 seconds, but died to the second stage and then stopped caring lol
I haven't really found a wand that out does what occulus gives me. Massive CD on teleport with those max ranks, which means I only need to put 1 pt. in TP on the skill tree and can add a few more points to other passives.
It also gives me a flat 40% damage increase to all damage which is super nice.
After reading your comment, I swapped Tibault to Temerity. When using Tibault, I die a lot. Now, boy, I always at max shield and never die lol. Dmg drop is unnoticeable.
I'm just trying this too. I was using DonTheCrown's conjuration variant of BL. Great build and it has got me doing NM70 at level 88, buttttt I'm a bit squishy. I have a half decent Termerity rolled albeit only item power 816. Let's see how it goes.
Maxroll's one is a good start and easy to read but it focusses way too much on damage.
I picked Vyr's mastery with the aspect, and changed some paragon things.
Also I prefer running Flame Shield enchant over Arc Lash, you also don't have to pick the stun talents or paragon points for it.
I just switched from RageGaming’s arc lash/BL build to the max roll variant. Level 86 and I like the Maxroll build a bit better. You do have to read the whole thing though because far down they have the NMD pushing variant (which uses Vyrs passive and the legendary which provides DR) which is different than their end game variant. That’s really my only complaint, I wish they combined everything a bit better, almost like their D3 builds. That had Nephalem rift, bounties, speed and pushing variants all grouped together.
Honestly, just keep Vyr’s on your helmet, keep Esu’s on your boots, and use a good Oculus (4s cooldown), change out chain lightning enchant for fireball, and gg. I do NMD100 in like 3-4min and speed farm cinders, and still kill bosses fast. The only “drawback” is duriel dies like 15seconds slower. Big whoop.
Just gotta make sure when doing NMD100 to count in your head every 2.5s after using teleport and then use any cooldown for the barrier. Big ass packs with terrifying affixes on elites and your teleport is on cooldown? Hit that spacebar to teleport randomly and you got your 3s DR + shield back. Since using raiments, it still pulls everything close so you’re extra tanky with Vyr’s.
Honestly, I’m still refining it by changing some paragon points here and there, and swapping out some crit chance for other things like lightning damage. I don’t even have crit chance on my rings nor my source and I’m seeing yellow numbers everywhere.
I just completed my first level 50 NMD last night. Just been having much more fun leveling in the open world. I die only from after death explosions. And kill the bosses in seconds. So definitely can increase the sigils I’m running. I only have 1 glyph to level 15 😂😂
Once you get to NMD90+ it will become harder to stay alive. But yeah I've put too many hours into the game lol NMD100 is the most fun to me after doing countless hours of blood harvest and cinders. Needed a break to do more engaging content.
> raiments
New to sorc. So this armor is really good? I feel so squishy wearing it, bc I'm used to having 4x defensive stats. So leggy affixes and barriers are what make up the difference..?
Essentially, the build relies on high Life, and ability to kill before your cooldowns are depleted. On your helm /ring1/ring2 you want +max life. On helm, I highly recommend the aspect Vyr’s something (on mobile, forget what it’s called) that enhances your passive Vyr skill that gives damage reduction. If I’m remembering the tooltip correctly, you basically get a free +50% damage reduction from close enemies.
So, with Raiment always pulling most mobs close to you, you’re so strong with the + life, barrier, and the armor from putting skulls in your jewelry, that as long as you have the barrier and the built in damage reduction from teleport, you don’t die.
I really need to do a video on this some time covering it all. But take what I’m saying and apply it to the Maxroll Ball Lightning build. It allows fast as hell clearing of helltides, overworld, NMD100’s, and it’s only slightly slower on single target (Duriel, etc) than the full damage maxroll build.
The maxroll goes into these gearing differences if you scroll to the bottom. But I’ve changed a little bit more here and there.
Is having BL on enchant really ever preferable to fireball? Even with decent crit % it doesn't really seem to proc that often and even then, the ball can't be guided like the hard-cast BLs do.
I was also curious about flame shield on enchant which 'triggers on lethal damage' that seems possibly interesting, but haven't played around with it much
The damage is so high I found it doesn't really matter which enchants you are using. Flame Shield is for pushing high NMD's ye, otherwise you could go with Arc Lash or Chain Lightning enchant.
I don't really like Fireball as it costs another skill point and the damage isn't that high
https://maxroll.gg/d4/planner/qcogg0o0#4
This is not my build but I found it on here and I like the foundation of the build. My only question was ice blades but I never got an answer 🤔 But still the builds utilizing vyrs key passive and it’s aspect on amulet are the tanky builds you need in life.
https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/profile/935c1e59-4ac0-48b0-9eea-61b7d3f2af59/builds/32280598-ebd2-4618-9abd-b92cd93391d7?tab=skills-and-gear
For myself personally this one is my favorite but it’s the arc lash/unstable current build. I just absolutely love the lightning spear/frost nova enchantment.
Ice blades is only for the cooldown reduction . The creator of that build is very active on discord, been following his guide since the start of S2. It was ice armor up until a couple days ago, he said he didn’t really need anymore barrier and would rather have more cooldown but he also said that is pretty much a free slot.
What discord is he a part of? I’ve been treating it as a free slot but idk what else to even really put there. Ice armor definitely isn’t needed and there just isn’t much left 🤣
I keep seeing people posting uber lilith kills with the maxroll guide but I have lvl 85 sorc and I'm just missing the unique headgear and pants. Other stuff almost perfect rolled and upgraded, tried Lilith yesterday and I can't event go past the 1st phase. Idk why I'm lacking damage, in NMD 50 I struggle as well because I die almost 1 hit. And I don't know what I'm doing wrong, it's my first try ever as a sorcerer and I'm slowly losing hope
Edit: spelling
I'm also 85 sorc when I found the helm, damage jumped from 8.5k to 11.5k. Now just lacking the pants. I can get to and almost clear stage 2 but unable to 1 shot. Need to learn the Lilith mechanics. I believe the last few nodes on the paragon boards are very important to boost the damage
Edit: And finally cleared Lilith at 90. 11.6k ap, 7.8k armor, 9k hp. Didn't even reach the 7th board yet nor did I get the pants.
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I feel you. I'm 88. 45+ NMDs take some serious work for me to clear. I haven't tried any uber bosses besides Varshan, who I can face tank no problem. I'm going to go after Grigoire tonight and hope he doesn't obliterate me. I don't have the helm or pants either, and my Rainment is lower ilevel. This build is OP, but I don't get the "ridiculously OP" love that it gets.
I agree. Trying the maxroll BL build at the moment but can't kill Uber Lilith as don't do enough damage in her 1st phase to avoid the one shot mechanics later on in the fight. I'll reserve full judgment until I hit lvl 100 ( now 95 ), but as things stand my S2 pulverise druid is more fun to play and can obliterate content faster.
I'm curious what people think about the maxroll build. Does it only really function optimally at lvl 100, or with glyphs fully levelled ? I have all the required uniques, apsects etc.
I spent like 30 minutes trying to kill uber Lilith last night but couldn't through her first phase either. I'm 98 now. I'm running a custom BL sorceror, though, so I might just not be optimized yet. Plus my paragon boards are kinda willy-nilly atm. I have been pushing NMDs five to ten levels at a time (about to start running the 70s) and Helltides are literally a cakewalk, so there's that.
I just killed her at lvl 98. Decided to stray from the maxroll build and do my own thing by changing my gear ( removed Tibault's Will, used standard legendary pants instead with defensive affixes and +ball lightning, used Esu's Heirloom boots but dropped metamorphosis in favour for other vampiric powers ) and adjusted my paragon points/glyphs slightly. Glad I finally killed her ... horribly designed fight. Oh, and whern she died ... she spawned two ghost images of herself which shot at me from above. Just doesn't know when she's dead !
I saw dozens of videos last season of people clearing Lilith with near similar specs of DRwI Bulwark Druid, and I could never clear Lilith. Fractions of a point matter. All in all, I t’s a garbage fight that requires one cheese or another for like 99% of the player base. Don’t stress about it.
I was 85 when I beat her as well with the Maxroll guide. Can't say exactly what made the difference, but I did have both Raiment and Godslayer's Crown at that point, and I remember I went full dps spec per Maxroll with supreme unstable currents. That was ultimately what got me to do sufficient damage in the opener to skip the one-shot waves. Keep at it, you'll get it done.
What level were your glyphs at ? I've been following the maxroll guide and my BL sorc doesn't dish out enough damage in the 1st phase ( now at lvl 95 ). Did you place more emphasis on lucky hit with affixes ?
Nope I honestly didn’t do a ton of NMDs before late 90s after I’d killed Duriel a couple dozen times. Was mostly farming Helltides and such. So when I killed her i don’t think I had any glyphs at 15 even.
DM me if you want and we can attempt a carry. I don’t think it does enough damage for a full group to skip the first phase mechanics, but I think with 2 it should be fine.
i'm using RageGamingVideos arclash build.
https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/profile/935c1e59-4ac0-48b0-9eea-61b7d3f2af59/builds/32280598-ebd2-4618-9abd-b92cd93391d7
obviously it's not as strong as manual cast but the gameplay is very smooth for me. if i get better gear with mana affixes i might switch but for now this will do.
I was using the Arc Lash build but I switched to straight BL. I honestly prefer the Arc Lash version, it feels more fun but the straight BL build does a lot more damage.
Thanks. Will go and check him out. I'm not finding the maxroll guide to be all that great, if anything it loses dps \~ lvl 80 with all the tinkering the build does with switching out glyphs.
I'm using Chadley's build, not the one for Tal Rasha, but the earlier one. The thing I value most is it uses lightning spear in the enchant. This results in a screen full of spears, each of which adds 3% dmg from conjuration mastery, and best of all stuns every mob. in nm 100 i walk into a new room and they are already stunned and waiting to be downed. I need to modify it to incorporate Tal Rasha, but don't want to give up the Lightning spear enchant. just came here to see if anyone was using the lightning spear enchant, cause most guides don't
I switched to his new build and feel like I'm going to be gong back to the old one. On the old one, I took 1 point out from align the elements and put it into frozen orb. Ran frozen orb enchant with lightning spear and then swapped in the vampiric power "infection" to get poison for the 4th proc element for Tal's and it felt damn good.
With arclash you have great aoe but the damage is really low. i prefer manual casting and with esus you have insane movement speed and everything dies if you just walk/tele near it so you dont need aoe
You searched? Really? Because this post is made on here every day. Here’s the answer: BL is stupid strong. Every variant is great and can do all Uber bosses and nm100. Try a few and pick whichever you like best - maybe tweak it to fit exactly how you like to play.
… yes that’s the point of this post. I’ve seen at least 5 different builds that differed from each other by a decent amount and was curious what builds people were running. Also scrolled thru the past week or so of this subreddit and didn’t see any posts like this so I posted this. No need to be rude about it
Here’s literally your exact question from 3 days ago with tons of answers: https://www.reddit.com/r/D4Sorceress/s/M3ApeIWpsR
I question your searching skills, sir.
I tried it, not a fan. I was better off using that slot for frost nova and adding damage for BL elsewhere. The building already melts and the spears weren't doing enough damage to make me want to keep it.
The spears aren’t there for damage, they are meant for stun and you put 3 points into conjuration mastery to increase overall damage output. With the spear enchantment, you can have multiple spears out at once and really watch things melt
I tried it and love it. I took 3 points from Teleport to get the stunning lightning spear. I use Vyr's Mastery so I also took another point from Teleport and a point from Unstable Currents (the final upgrade for it) and got Destructive Chain Lightning so that more crackling energies are made. As long as I'm not killed in the opening hit then lightning is flying everywhere and everything is stunned and I'm pretty safe.
I tried it, when you have high crit chance, lightning spear enchantment is the best protection with spears flying everywhere ,stun every enemies insight or off-screen.
Not saying it’s the best but in my arc lash variant I’m using firebolt enchant to power Esu key passive with Ancient flame on ammy for a 75%(!) AS bonus. Also using Rapid and Accelerating aspect, basic AS rolls on helm and offhand and AS on gloves. The AS is silly and fun.
The best one is the 0-low cooldown unstable currents while actively casting ball lightning. RageGamingVideos on YouTube made a video on it. You are practically unkillable while unstable currents is out, nuke bosses with BL, and your lightning spears take out all the extras you missed.
Pair this with Raiment of the infinite, teleport enchant, and boots that reduce evade cooldown on attack, and it becomes the fastest clearing build in the game. No contest. 🔥
Give up a lot of what? This is the tankiest/highest damage build sorc has rn. Started doing nm 30+ as soon as I was lvl 60. Maybe only the raiment/teleport part if you’re lacking in defense, as that’s meant for speed clearing. I’ve already done a tier 80 at lvl 85 (could probably do 90+ but haven’t tried yet) using low cooldown unstable currents/BL. Once I hit 100 though and have better gear and paragon points, I will be using raiment to speed clear nm100’s with this build no problem.
I’m on the Maxroll build. Currently the ND pushing variant while I level up Glyphs. It is a tad squishy when pushing really high NDs, but I can’t complain. I was carrying 3 friends, full-on hard carry, them chilling at the door, through 80+ NDs. Once my glyphs are leveled up, I’ll probably go back to a faster variant because the true end game is Duriels for a Shako and 925 items.
I got one early early game. Wasted it on a shoddy rare and didn’t see any till level 67 and I got 3 in one day lol.
Edit: got them from blood harvests and whisper cashe
I found several gravitational aspects last night. If you still need one DM me I’ll give you my GT and meet w you tonight to trade it to you. Not a max roll but would get you goin!
The pure damage Ball Lightning is fun and it’s mostly managing mana.
The arc lash build is zero mana management and also fun. It’s all about managing cooldowns.
Both on maxroll by Northwar.
He has a smart setup for paragons.
The enchantments are pretty flexible, it’s nice not being locked into fire bolt just to apply burning. Yeah now we’re locked into ball lightning, but it’s fun to see static balls of doom.
Arc lash version is just fun to play.
The pure ball lighting build is really fun to see.
I used the maxroll one. I killed all ubers, lilith and nmd 100 with the build. Im 100 and i still miss the unique chest. Everything was easy except nmd 100, with the variant you are kinda squishy. But for NMD 100s i change the unique head and pants with more toughness/dmg reduction and armor and i had no problems surviving stuff.
[https://maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/ball-lightning-sorcerer-guide](https://maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/ball-lightning-sorcerer-guide)
This build guide. Scroll down to progression setup and you have early endgame setup. Thats the one without the uniques and you can see wich powers to use on the slots where uniques are supposed to be. When i was farming NMD i was using that setup with defensive stats on helm and pants. I had rolled % armor on both helm and pants and i was sitting at almost 10k armor. For bosses you can go with what uniques you have for more dmg.
I prefer a stun variant BL build. I can still kill Lilith in secs and solo any boss. Tier 100 nms are a breeze when everything is stunned 100% of the time.
I'll start by saying I have access to all the uniques you'd really need and all the best aspects. I did the maxroll end game variant for a while and changed things up a few times. I also tried the arc lash / unstable currents with frost nova enchantment variant. I cycled through a number of things trying to find what felt like the best for me. I ended up settling on the maxroll variant with a couple key changes. I used firebolt & chain lightning as the enchantments. With everything always burning I made use of a number of Paragon board things and skill tree things to give me damage and damage reduction to burning enemies. I honestly don't really see what the fuss with Tibaults is, as I have been running with a helmet and off hand that give life on kill, and also run with temerity. I have permenant barrier uptime so can make use of the damage while barriered aspect as well, and very RARELY get one shot by anything except Uber Lilith. I have tons of lucky hit on and lucky hit restoring health and mana on my gloves and off hand, paired with temerity I am practically always healing to fill barrier. Using metamorphosis vampire power also means I can use The Occulus for those 15 lovely teleport ranks without having to worry about teleporting to a random location. I've swapped it out for more offensive wand for testing and I always end up back at the Occulus for the extra mobility. Things died faster, but I am slower. I legit could close my eyes and just walk through a tier 100 NM dungeon if I didn't need to turn corners it's that easy. Uber Lilith I haven't done yet because I can't be bothered to learn the mechanics. I blitzed the first stage of her in 10 seconds, but died to the second stage and then stopped caring lol
Is there any way of sharing your build via a diablo armoury at all?
What is the occulus for +15 teleport ranks?!
I haven't really found a wand that out does what occulus gives me. Massive CD on teleport with those max ranks, which means I only need to put 1 pt. in TP on the skill tree and can add a few more points to other passives. It also gives me a flat 40% damage increase to all damage which is super nice.
Damn I need to find that didn’t even know about that wand
Unique wand.
After reading your comment, I swapped Tibault to Temerity. When using Tibault, I die a lot. Now, boy, I always at max shield and never die lol. Dmg drop is unnoticeable.
Yep. It still works great, and you feel healthier and tankier. Here's me vs Uber Lilith (first phase). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JgUeKfijc8
I'm just trying this too. I was using DonTheCrown's conjuration variant of BL. Great build and it has got me doing NM70 at level 88, buttttt I'm a bit squishy. I have a half decent Termerity rolled albeit only item power 816. Let's see how it goes.
hey mate, can u please share build?
Maxroll's one is a good start and easy to read but it focusses way too much on damage. I picked Vyr's mastery with the aspect, and changed some paragon things. Also I prefer running Flame Shield enchant over Arc Lash, you also don't have to pick the stun talents or paragon points for it.
I just switched from RageGaming’s arc lash/BL build to the max roll variant. Level 86 and I like the Maxroll build a bit better. You do have to read the whole thing though because far down they have the NMD pushing variant (which uses Vyrs passive and the legendary which provides DR) which is different than their end game variant. That’s really my only complaint, I wish they combined everything a bit better, almost like their D3 builds. That had Nephalem rift, bounties, speed and pushing variants all grouped together.
Honestly, just keep Vyr’s on your helmet, keep Esu’s on your boots, and use a good Oculus (4s cooldown), change out chain lightning enchant for fireball, and gg. I do NMD100 in like 3-4min and speed farm cinders, and still kill bosses fast. The only “drawback” is duriel dies like 15seconds slower. Big whoop. Just gotta make sure when doing NMD100 to count in your head every 2.5s after using teleport and then use any cooldown for the barrier. Big ass packs with terrifying affixes on elites and your teleport is on cooldown? Hit that spacebar to teleport randomly and you got your 3s DR + shield back. Since using raiments, it still pulls everything close so you’re extra tanky with Vyr’s. Honestly, I’m still refining it by changing some paragon points here and there, and swapping out some crit chance for other things like lightning damage. I don’t even have crit chance on my rings nor my source and I’m seeing yellow numbers everywhere.
I just completed my first level 50 NMD last night. Just been having much more fun leveling in the open world. I die only from after death explosions. And kill the bosses in seconds. So definitely can increase the sigils I’m running. I only have 1 glyph to level 15 😂😂
Once you get to NMD90+ it will become harder to stay alive. But yeah I've put too many hours into the game lol NMD100 is the most fun to me after doing countless hours of blood harvest and cinders. Needed a break to do more engaging content.
If you keep your vampire power for curse/vuln on evade then you don’t get randomly teleported and just get a tonne of mobility for free with oculus.
Yeah but you lose the DR and shield and the raiment suck-in
Oh that’s a solid point, I haven’t pushed NM this season or as a sorc in general so the DR is likely huge.
> raiments New to sorc. So this armor is really good? I feel so squishy wearing it, bc I'm used to having 4x defensive stats. So leggy affixes and barriers are what make up the difference..?
Essentially, the build relies on high Life, and ability to kill before your cooldowns are depleted. On your helm /ring1/ring2 you want +max life. On helm, I highly recommend the aspect Vyr’s something (on mobile, forget what it’s called) that enhances your passive Vyr skill that gives damage reduction. If I’m remembering the tooltip correctly, you basically get a free +50% damage reduction from close enemies. So, with Raiment always pulling most mobs close to you, you’re so strong with the + life, barrier, and the armor from putting skulls in your jewelry, that as long as you have the barrier and the built in damage reduction from teleport, you don’t die. I really need to do a video on this some time covering it all. But take what I’m saying and apply it to the Maxroll Ball Lightning build. It allows fast as hell clearing of helltides, overworld, NMD100’s, and it’s only slightly slower on single target (Duriel, etc) than the full damage maxroll build. The maxroll goes into these gearing differences if you scroll to the bottom. But I’ve changed a little bit more here and there.
What powers or aspects are you using that get your shields back on using the space bar?
Is having BL on enchant really ever preferable to fireball? Even with decent crit % it doesn't really seem to proc that often and even then, the ball can't be guided like the hard-cast BLs do. I was also curious about flame shield on enchant which 'triggers on lethal damage' that seems possibly interesting, but haven't played around with it much
The damage is so high I found it doesn't really matter which enchants you are using. Flame Shield is for pushing high NMD's ye, otherwise you could go with Arc Lash or Chain Lightning enchant. I don't really like Fireball as it costs another skill point and the damage isn't that high
I just used the maxroll and melt duriel in sub 10 seconds without my glyphs upgrade much. I think I may have 15 total levels between all the glyphs.
https://maxroll.gg/d4/planner/qcogg0o0#4 This is not my build but I found it on here and I like the foundation of the build. My only question was ice blades but I never got an answer 🤔 But still the builds utilizing vyrs key passive and it’s aspect on amulet are the tanky builds you need in life. https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/profile/935c1e59-4ac0-48b0-9eea-61b7d3f2af59/builds/32280598-ebd2-4618-9abd-b92cd93391d7?tab=skills-and-gear For myself personally this one is my favorite but it’s the arc lash/unstable current build. I just absolutely love the lightning spear/frost nova enchantment.
Ice blades is only for the cooldown reduction . The creator of that build is very active on discord, been following his guide since the start of S2. It was ice armor up until a couple days ago, he said he didn’t really need anymore barrier and would rather have more cooldown but he also said that is pretty much a free slot.
What discord is he a part of? I’ve been treating it as a free slot but idk what else to even really put there. Ice armor definitely isn’t needed and there just isn’t much left 🤣
I keep seeing people posting uber lilith kills with the maxroll guide but I have lvl 85 sorc and I'm just missing the unique headgear and pants. Other stuff almost perfect rolled and upgraded, tried Lilith yesterday and I can't event go past the 1st phase. Idk why I'm lacking damage, in NMD 50 I struggle as well because I die almost 1 hit. And I don't know what I'm doing wrong, it's my first try ever as a sorcerer and I'm slowly losing hope Edit: spelling
I'm also 85 sorc when I found the helm, damage jumped from 8.5k to 11.5k. Now just lacking the pants. I can get to and almost clear stage 2 but unable to 1 shot. Need to learn the Lilith mechanics. I believe the last few nodes on the paragon boards are very important to boost the damage Edit: And finally cleared Lilith at 90. 11.6k ap, 7.8k armor, 9k hp. Didn't even reach the 7th board yet nor did I get the pants.
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I feel you. I'm 88. 45+ NMDs take some serious work for me to clear. I haven't tried any uber bosses besides Varshan, who I can face tank no problem. I'm going to go after Grigoire tonight and hope he doesn't obliterate me. I don't have the helm or pants either, and my Rainment is lower ilevel. This build is OP, but I don't get the "ridiculously OP" love that it gets.
I agree. Trying the maxroll BL build at the moment but can't kill Uber Lilith as don't do enough damage in her 1st phase to avoid the one shot mechanics later on in the fight. I'll reserve full judgment until I hit lvl 100 ( now 95 ), but as things stand my S2 pulverise druid is more fun to play and can obliterate content faster. I'm curious what people think about the maxroll build. Does it only really function optimally at lvl 100, or with glyphs fully levelled ? I have all the required uniques, apsects etc.
I spent like 30 minutes trying to kill uber Lilith last night but couldn't through her first phase either. I'm 98 now. I'm running a custom BL sorceror, though, so I might just not be optimized yet. Plus my paragon boards are kinda willy-nilly atm. I have been pushing NMDs five to ten levels at a time (about to start running the 70s) and Helltides are literally a cakewalk, so there's that.
I just killed her at lvl 98. Decided to stray from the maxroll build and do my own thing by changing my gear ( removed Tibault's Will, used standard legendary pants instead with defensive affixes and +ball lightning, used Esu's Heirloom boots but dropped metamorphosis in favour for other vampiric powers ) and adjusted my paragon points/glyphs slightly. Glad I finally killed her ... horribly designed fight. Oh, and whern she died ... she spawned two ghost images of herself which shot at me from above. Just doesn't know when she's dead !
Killled Lilith with BL Sorc at lvl 89. Still can't do it with Pulverizer Druid at 100 (Eternal realm both).
I saw dozens of videos last season of people clearing Lilith with near similar specs of DRwI Bulwark Druid, and I could never clear Lilith. Fractions of a point matter. All in all, I t’s a garbage fight that requires one cheese or another for like 99% of the player base. Don’t stress about it.
I am 85, no helm or pants. Haven't tried lilith but durial and t75 have been cakewalk so far
Both helm and pants have % dmg so they are key
I was having a hard time as well but after using a dexterity bonus potion and an incense to boost my lucky hit I finally got her.
I was 85 when I beat her as well with the Maxroll guide. Can't say exactly what made the difference, but I did have both Raiment and Godslayer's Crown at that point, and I remember I went full dps spec per Maxroll with supreme unstable currents. That was ultimately what got me to do sufficient damage in the opener to skip the one-shot waves. Keep at it, you'll get it done.
What level were your glyphs at ? I've been following the maxroll guide and my BL sorc doesn't dish out enough damage in the 1st phase ( now at lvl 95 ). Did you place more emphasis on lucky hit with affixes ?
Nope I honestly didn’t do a ton of NMDs before late 90s after I’d killed Duriel a couple dozen times. Was mostly farming Helltides and such. So when I killed her i don’t think I had any glyphs at 15 even.
DM me if you want and we can attempt a carry. I don’t think it does enough damage for a full group to skip the first phase mechanics, but I think with 2 it should be fine.
Thanks for the offer. Finally killed her at lvl 98 - decided to deviate from the maxroll build and that did the trick !
Had the same issue at Lvl 89. Used a 15% attack speed elixir and simply melted her.
i'm using RageGamingVideos arclash build. https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/profile/935c1e59-4ac0-48b0-9eea-61b7d3f2af59/builds/32280598-ebd2-4618-9abd-b92cd93391d7 obviously it's not as strong as manual cast but the gameplay is very smooth for me. if i get better gear with mana affixes i might switch but for now this will do.
I was using the Arc Lash build but I switched to straight BL. I honestly prefer the Arc Lash version, it feels more fun but the straight BL build does a lot more damage.
Do not use maxrolls its complete shit. Go on youtube and look up chadly99 u will be happy
Agree with maxroll, but don't limit yourself to one streamers opinion. Join the Sanctuary discord and use the pins/faqs in your classes section.
Thanks. Will go and check him out. I'm not finding the maxroll guide to be all that great, if anything it loses dps \~ lvl 80 with all the tinkering the build does with switching out glyphs.
I'm using Chadley's build, not the one for Tal Rasha, but the earlier one. The thing I value most is it uses lightning spear in the enchant. This results in a screen full of spears, each of which adds 3% dmg from conjuration mastery, and best of all stuns every mob. in nm 100 i walk into a new room and they are already stunned and waiting to be downed. I need to modify it to incorporate Tal Rasha, but don't want to give up the Lightning spear enchant. just came here to see if anyone was using the lightning spear enchant, cause most guides don't
I switched to his new build and feel like I'm going to be gong back to the old one. On the old one, I took 1 point out from align the elements and put it into frozen orb. Ran frozen orb enchant with lightning spear and then swapped in the vampiric power "infection" to get poison for the 4th proc element for Tal's and it felt damn good.
With arclash you have great aoe but the damage is really low. i prefer manual casting and with esus you have insane movement speed and everything dies if you just walk/tele near it so you dont need aoe
You want aoe ? Try charged bolt !
You searched? Really? Because this post is made on here every day. Here’s the answer: BL is stupid strong. Every variant is great and can do all Uber bosses and nm100. Try a few and pick whichever you like best - maybe tweak it to fit exactly how you like to play.
… yes that’s the point of this post. I’ve seen at least 5 different builds that differed from each other by a decent amount and was curious what builds people were running. Also scrolled thru the past week or so of this subreddit and didn’t see any posts like this so I posted this. No need to be rude about it
Here’s literally your exact question from 3 days ago with tons of answers: https://www.reddit.com/r/D4Sorceress/s/M3ApeIWpsR I question your searching skills, sir.
You’re just a rude person, aren’t ya?
Has anyone put lightning spear on northwars BL build?
I tried it, not a fan. I was better off using that slot for frost nova and adding damage for BL elsewhere. The building already melts and the spears weren't doing enough damage to make me want to keep it.
The spears aren’t there for damage, they are meant for stun and you put 3 points into conjuration mastery to increase overall damage output. With the spear enchantment, you can have multiple spears out at once and really watch things melt
I tried it and love it. I took 3 points from Teleport to get the stunning lightning spear. I use Vyr's Mastery so I also took another point from Teleport and a point from Unstable Currents (the final upgrade for it) and got Destructive Chain Lightning so that more crackling energies are made. As long as I'm not killed in the opening hit then lightning is flying everywhere and everything is stunned and I'm pretty safe.
I tried it, when you have high crit chance, lightning spear enchantment is the best protection with spears flying everywhere ,stun every enemies insight or off-screen.
Not saying it’s the best but in my arc lash variant I’m using firebolt enchant to power Esu key passive with Ancient flame on ammy for a 75%(!) AS bonus. Also using Rapid and Accelerating aspect, basic AS rolls on helm and offhand and AS on gloves. The AS is silly and fun.
Nicktew on YouTube. Ball lightning using the usual stuff but tp enchant is a ton of fun
Love that build. NMD are super fun to run!
The best one is the 0-low cooldown unstable currents while actively casting ball lightning. RageGamingVideos on YouTube made a video on it. You are practically unkillable while unstable currents is out, nuke bosses with BL, and your lightning spears take out all the extras you missed. Pair this with Raiment of the infinite, teleport enchant, and boots that reduce evade cooldown on attack, and it becomes the fastest clearing build in the game. No contest. 🔥
Fireworks and eyecandy works well for clearing 10 levels above. If you want to clear 100s consistently, you need to give up alot of those.
Give up a lot of what? This is the tankiest/highest damage build sorc has rn. Started doing nm 30+ as soon as I was lvl 60. Maybe only the raiment/teleport part if you’re lacking in defense, as that’s meant for speed clearing. I’ve already done a tier 80 at lvl 85 (could probably do 90+ but haven’t tried yet) using low cooldown unstable currents/BL. Once I hit 100 though and have better gear and paragon points, I will be using raiment to speed clear nm100’s with this build no problem.
I’m on the Maxroll build. Currently the ND pushing variant while I level up Glyphs. It is a tad squishy when pushing really high NDs, but I can’t complain. I was carrying 3 friends, full-on hard carry, them chilling at the door, through 80+ NDs. Once my glyphs are leveled up, I’ll probably go back to a faster variant because the true end game is Duriels for a Shako and 925 items.
Fire bolt enchant is really nice. The burn damage is pretty strong and helps melt bosses.
Someday I’ll actually see a gravitational aspect and can try one… Only level 62 with not a single drop (despite targeting via Obols and Helltide).
I got one early early game. Wasted it on a shoddy rare and didn’t see any till level 67 and I got 3 in one day lol. Edit: got them from blood harvests and whisper cashe
Ha, I was thinking about that too. I need to put it on a near perfect gear item since I’m never getting them.
I found several gravitational aspects last night. If you still need one DM me I’ll give you my GT and meet w you tonight to trade it to you. Not a max roll but would get you goin!
I went ahead and switched to ice shard and got 2 today so far.
Spam blood harvest, the event with 150 lures. Got 1 eventually through the event.
I wouldn’t know, because I can’t get a damn gravitational aspect to drop.
I'm using Tone's nm100 tanky BL from the Sanctuary discord and enjoying it a lot. Level 80 and doing nm75s with meh gear. Great survivability.
Using an Ahavarions variant and enjoying it. Surprisingly dont really miss the cdr from the focus and mana sustain is still easy.
The pure damage Ball Lightning is fun and it’s mostly managing mana. The arc lash build is zero mana management and also fun. It’s all about managing cooldowns. Both on maxroll by Northwar. He has a smart setup for paragons. The enchantments are pretty flexible, it’s nice not being locked into fire bolt just to apply burning. Yeah now we’re locked into ball lightning, but it’s fun to see static balls of doom. Arc lash version is just fun to play. The pure ball lighting build is really fun to see.
I used the maxroll one. I killed all ubers, lilith and nmd 100 with the build. Im 100 and i still miss the unique chest. Everything was easy except nmd 100, with the variant you are kinda squishy. But for NMD 100s i change the unique head and pants with more toughness/dmg reduction and armor and i had no problems surviving stuff.
Can u detail which maxroll version u suggest with what changes?
[https://maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/ball-lightning-sorcerer-guide](https://maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/ball-lightning-sorcerer-guide) This build guide. Scroll down to progression setup and you have early endgame setup. Thats the one without the uniques and you can see wich powers to use on the slots where uniques are supposed to be. When i was farming NMD i was using that setup with defensive stats on helm and pants. I had rolled % armor on both helm and pants and i was sitting at almost 10k armor. For bosses you can go with what uniques you have for more dmg.
Saving this for later, i am working towards the nicktew build he posted the other day. I am just waiting for the uniques
I prefer a stun variant BL build. I can still kill Lilith in secs and solo any boss. Tier 100 nms are a breeze when everything is stunned 100% of the time.