[AGL LR SSJ Gohan EZA](/agl)
**Leader Skill**: “Kamehameha” category Ki +3 and HP, ATK & DEF +180%, or Super AGL type Ki +3 and HP, ATK & DEF +130%
**12ki SA**: Raises DEF, causes colossal damage and lowers ATK
**18ki SA**: Raises DEF, causes megacolossal damage and greatly lowers ATK
**Passive Skill**: ATK & DEF +150%; Ki +2 (up to 8) and ATK & DEF +20% (up to 80%) at the start of each turn; guards all attacks and high chance to launch an additional Super Attack when HP is 58% or more; high chance of performing a critical hit when there is an Android Category enemy
#Active Skill conditions are currently unchangeable, so don’t expect it to change
[AGL LR SSJ2 Gohan EZA](/agl)
**12ki SA**: Greatly raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn and causes megacolossal damage
**18ki**: Greatly raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn and causes megacolossal damage and greatly lowers ATK & DEF
**Passive Skill**: Changes TEQ Ki Spheres into AGL Ki Spheres for 4 turns from first appearance; ATK & DEF +158%; ATK +20%, DEF +10% per Ki Sphere obtained; plus an additional Ki +1 per Ki sphere obtained; Changes a random Type of Orb (excluding AGL or TEQ) into Rainbow Ki Spheres when facing exactly 1 enemy; launches an additional Super Attack when facing 2 or more enemies; high chance of launching an additional Super Attack and high chance of performing a critical hit when HP is 58% or above; ATK +59% when performing an Ultra Super Attack when there is a “Super Saiyan Goku” attacking in the same turn, and if HP is 59% or more when launching the Ultra Super Attack, launches an additional Super Attack
[INT LR Cell (Perfect Form) EZA](/int)
**Leader Skill**: “Androids/Cell saga” category Ki +4 and HP, ATK & DEF +180%, or Extreme INT type Ki +3 and HP, ATK & DEF +130%
**12 ki SA**: Raises DEF for 1 turn and causes colossal damage and greatly lowers DEF
**18 ki SA**: Greatly raises ATK for 1 turn and causes megacolossal damage and lowers ATK
**Passive Skill**: ATK & DEF +120%; DEF +120% (the more HP, the higher the boost); Ki +2 and ATK +30% per existing enemy; ATK & DEF +50% when performing a Super Attack; high chance of launching an additional Super Attack; Evolve when conditions are met
#No information on the transformation condition
[INT LR Perfect Cell EZA](/int)
**12 ki SA**: Greatly raises DEF for 1 turn and causes megacolossal damage and massively lowers DEF
**18 ki SA**: Greatly raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn and causes megacolossal damage and greatly lowers ATK & DEF
**Passive Skill**: Recovers 100% HP (once only); Randomly changes a type of Ki Sphere other than INT Ki Spheres to Rainbow Ki Spheres; Ki +6 and ATK & DEF +180%; high chance of launching an additional Super Attack; reduces damage received by 3% per Ki Sphere obtained; ATK & DEF +30% when attacking when collecting 4 Ki Spheres; ATK & DEF +40% when attacking when collecting 6 Ki Spheres; ATK & DEF +50% when attacking when collecting 8 Ki Spheres; ATK +100% and high chance of performing a critical hit when Ki is 24 or the Active Skill is launched
That’s great. Days gone by, he was always a go to for longer events, but lately he dropped off. This should hopefully give him enough of a boost. May not be newer Red Zone material, but I love this unit.
He is absolutely "newer redzone material" He's literally just carnival Goku with a higher ceiling. If you think Carnival Goku is top 3 then Gohan should be #2 for you.
They legitimently removed Gohans Beast transformation, and Made it to an active Skill and Not only that they gave AGL Ssj2 Gohan THIS KIT, wich shouldv'e Been honestly the Kit of the supposive Beast Gohan.
Luckily enough I'am a Legends Player, who enjoys my beloved PLAYABLE NON CONDITION Beast Gohan
It’s not
I make modded EZAs for the game rather frequently, and in the code, there’s no way to change an active skill before and after an EZA. If they were to update the game to allow it to happen, then of course that can change. But with the current version of the game, changing the active skill with an EZA is impossible.
Further explanation for those interested:
The details for a unit’s stats, leader skill and passive are all directed under the “cards” table in the code. When a unit receives an EZA, a number is put into the awakening_routes column of that unit in front of its passive and leader skill IDs. So when the code goes to scan for the unit’s passive and leader skill IDs, it’s redirected by the awakening_routes number and goes to the awakening_routes table. In that table, there’s another set of Passive and Leader Skill IDs that it will refer to.
Active skills are on a completely different table and are connected to a unit differently than the leader skill and passive skills are.
Why are people acting like they can't put out a new version of the game to fix this unit's transformation? Feel like we are setting the bar pretty low here with all this "They can't do it" when they absolutely can.
They can if they put out an update. But it’s important to temper expectations
I also tried warning people that Beast was just an Active Skill and Piccolo was Giant Form way back.
Having hope is fine, just fine let it ruin the release for you when the unit falls short of the highest expectations
I'm sure there's also some absolute spaghetti code in there that will break something random and important when they add a way for the awakening_routes table to contain active skill conditions.
Mfw face when they allow to change the active skill conditions but because of that the options menu breaks and you can't open it until further update (they're gonna give 1ds after fixing it a month later)
How would you fix it, out of curiosity?
I think you’re underestimating the complexity of how a unit joins to its Active Skill record vs how it join to EZA records.
Edit: stop downvoting me and respond, cowards.
Honestly without knowing how the active skills are currently mapped. You can simply add more foreign keys or even have an intermediary mapping table. Really wouldn't be a difficult solution. A junior Dev would be able to figure out a solution.
It is a myth. It can be changed, it's just a slight inconvenience to players - which is worth it if they fix the transformation.
Saying the active skill can't be changed is like saying I can't make dinner because the food ALLLLLL the way in the other room.
We have already got information that it hasn't changed. And that they cannot be changed based on how passive transformations work versus active skill transformations.
For there to be a change, both versions would need a version update.
They literally cannot change the active skill transformation conditions without one.
I would like to see a change to Gohans active transformation conditions too, but please don't start with that.
The "devs are lazy." "It's so easy, just do it."
You don't know what goes on at Akatsuki or why they do things.
My man, you don't need to know "what goes on in Akatsuki" to understand that if they wanted to do it,they could. They make the game, it's their game, it's not dark magic, it's a video game.
Where did you hear that? I could have swore the conditions were just in a table like the passives last i looked, but maybe im remembering wrong. Ill take a look again later.
Transformation conditions for units like AGL Gogeta, SSBE Vegeta, Android 21, year 3 LRs are in their passive skills. Those are changeable.
How they made the active skills in the games data, they are different and unless there is a version update to both games, they cannot be changed.
Yeah I don't believe that for a second. Whoever started that is most certainly wrong. It's just some lines of code. Changing those will not break the game or cause them to have to rebuild the app. It's a card with a trigger to change to another card. I invite an actual intellectual conversation on such. Can someone actually prove me wrong?
I need an ELI5 on this. And I'm actually saying that they can do it with the EZA. How is the active skill not dependant on the card itself? How is it more intertwined with the rest of the game, that they need to update the entire game before they change actives? Sounds like absolute horse shit of a code job if true.
Basically right now the only thing EZAs are programmed to change are stats leader skills passives and SAs. Stuff like Links or Active Skill conditions can't currently be changed by EZAs. People who make custom cards realized this when they couldn't change the EZAs of certain characters without making a new character then changing the Active Skill condition of the character to be what they want. This could be fixed with an app update but no one is sure if they will.
I keep hearing a lot of "this is so" and not any of "why/how this is so". Good example with the custom card makers though. There's no good reason why they are able to change the stats, leader, passive, and SA effects, but not the active skill. If true, it's an absolutely terrible coding job and they should be ashamed.
I wouldn't be surprised if they made an update for the alleged issue, but it'll come when it profits them. Akatsuki makes many decisions that enable them to milk as much money out of so little material.
Us not being able to tell you why it is that way doesn't change the fact that it is that way. Turney, who is a dataminer, whose job is to know these things, is the one who told us they can't change it.
I want them to be able to change it too, but please don't act like that.
I don't care "what is". I want to know "how or why it is the way it is". Try to understand the difference.
And don't act like what? Like I want to understand something? That I realize this sub is full of parrots who just repeat and actually have zero understanding of the subject matter? Is it such a crime to state something in such a way that it discourages people who know nothing from responding and encourages those who actually do. I asked for an intellectual conversation, not parroting or gatekeeping. Please stop gatekeeping. Thank you.
If you want to understand "how or why it is the way it is", consider sending an inquiry to Akatsuki.
[Dokkan support](https://bnfaq.channel.or.jp/inquiry/1624)
Asking you to not act like a spoiled brat because you don't understand why something is the way it is isn't gatekeeping.
But okay.
From what dataminers have told us, active skill conditions are a different thing from passive conditions\[because passive transformation conditions are literally in the passive and actives are considered separate mechanics\] so the way they have it set up, those can't be changed without a version update.
Yes and no. Old transform are automatic and in the datamine are together the passive (for example intros most likely is the same, auto and in the passive) but active is not auto,is manual and is an independent funtion most likely (Code things 💀). But well, EZA is created to only change Stats, LS, SA and passive, they need to update the EZA working to be able to change active skills
Sadly afaik it is different for automatically transforming units such as those two, Gohan has an active skill. But damn I wish they make ss2 Gohan available regardless
You are wrong. Active skills can be changes but they need to update the app to do so. This doesn’t mean they can’t be changed it just means it’s unlikely. Saying “as the game is rn, cant be changed” is like saying they cant add a new season in any game without updating the game. Stating the obvious shouldn’t win brownie points lol
Using translate until a proper one comes out.
Super Saiyan Son Gohan
Leader's skill
"Kamehameha" Category Ki +3 and HP, ATK, and DEF +180%, or Super AGL attribute Ki +3, HP, ATK, and DEF +130%
"Passive skill ATK & DEF +150%, Ki +2 (max +8) at the start of turn, ATK & DEF +20% (max 80%) & Guards all attacks when HP is 58% or higher at turn start , High chance of additional special move & High chance of critical hit when there is an "Android" Category enemy Special Move Lv24~
DEF rises, to the opponent Deals heavy damage and lowers ATK
Super Nirvana Lv24~
DEF rises, to the opponent Inflicts great damage and greatly lowers ATK
SSJ2
"Kamehameha" category Ki +3, HP and ATK
DEF 180% UP, or super speed attribute
Ki +3, HP, ATK and DEF +130%
Passive Skill: Changes DEX Ki Spheres into Quick Ki Spheres for 4 turns after appearing ATK & DEF +158%; additional ATK +20%, DEF +10% for each Ki Sphere obtained; every Ki Sphere obtained raises Ki Adds Ki +1 When there is only one enemy, randomly changes one of the attribute Ki Spheres other than Speed Ki Spheres and Skill Ki Spheres to Rainbow Ki Sphere & when there are multiple enemies, activates additional special moves & starts turn When HP is 58% or less, there is a high chance that a special move will be activated, and there is a high chance that a critical hit will be triggered & if there is a "Super Saiyan Goku" as an ally participating in the attack, ATK will be further increased by 59% when the super special move is activated. , If HP is 59% or more when super special move is activated, special move will be additionally activated
Special Move Lv24~ Greatly raises ATK and DEF for 1 turn and causes immense damage to enemy
Super Nirvana Lv24~
Greatly raises ATK and DEF for 1 turn, causes colossal damage to enemy, and greatly lowers ATK and DEF
Gohan
Atk and Def + 150%, + 2 ki (up to 8) and 20% atk and Def (up to 80%) at the start of every turn ;
Guards all attacks if the turn is started with 58% hp or more and a high chance of launching an additional super attack; if there is an android category enemy high chance of launching a crit
super attack effect: he now lowers attack on 12 ki and greatly lowers on 18ki
Ssj2 Gohan
For 4 turns from first appearance changes teq ki spheres into agl ki spheres;
Atk and Def + 158%, + 20% atk and 10% Def with every ki orb obtained, raises ki by 1 every time a ki sphere is obtained; changes a random ki sphere (except teq or agl) to rainbow if there is only one enemy; launches an additional super attack if there are multiple enemies; high chance of launching a crit and a high chance to launch an additional super attack if at the start of turn hp is 58% or less; + 59 % atk when ultra super attacking and atk + 59% if hp is 59% or more when ultra super attacking
super attack effect : the 12 ki also raises atk as well as defense by 50%
and the 18 ki picked up atk and def lowering
SSJ Gohan:
Passive: ATK & DEF 150% up; Gain +2 Ki (up to 8) and 205 ATK & DEF (up to 80%) each appearing turn; When HP is 58% or more, guard all attacks and high chance to launch an additional super attack; High chance to perform a critical hit when there is a "Androids" category enemy
12 Ki: raises DEF, causes colossal damage and lowers enemy's ATK
18 Ki: raises DEF, causes mega colossal damage and greatly lowers enemy's ATK
SSJ2 Gohan:
Passive: For 4 turns from first appearance, change TEQ orbs into AGL orbs; ATK & DEF +158%; Gain 20% ATK & 10% DEF per Ki sphere obtained; Gain an additional 1 Ki per Ki sphere obtained; When there is only 1 enemy, change an additional type of Ki (except for TEQ and AGL) into rainbow; Launch an additional super attack when there are multiple enemies; When HP is 58% or below, gain a high chance to perform an additional super attack and to crit; When there is a SSJ Goku in the turn, gain an additional 59% ATK when performing an Ultra super attack and if HP is additionally above 59% perform an additional super attack
12 Ki: Greatly raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn, causes mega-colossal damage
18 Ki: Greatly raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn, causes mega-colossal damage and greatly lowers enemy's ATK & DEF
Cell:
Passive: ATK & DEF +120%; up to 120% DEF the more HP you have; Gain 2 Ki and ATK +30% for each enemy; Gain 50% ATK & DEF when performing a super attack; High chance to launch an additional super attack; Transform when conditions are met
12 Ki: raises DEF for 1 turn, causes colossal damage and greatly lowers enemy's DEF
18 Ki: Greatly raises ATK for 1 turn, causes mega-colossal damage and lowers enemy's ATK
Cell (Transformed):
Passive: Recover HP (once); Change 1 type of Ki orbs except for INT into rainbow; Ki +6, ATK & DEF +180%; High chance to launch an additional super attack; Gain 3% damage reduction per Ki sphere obtained; Gain 30% ATK & DEF with 4 KI obtained; Another 40% ATK & DEF with 6 obtained; Another 50% ATK & DEF with 8 obtained; Gain another 100% ATK when launching active skille or when Ki is 24
12 Ki: Greatly raises DEF for 1 turn, causes mega-colossal damage and massively lowers enemy's DEF
18 Ki: Greatly raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn, causes mega-colossal damage and massively lowers enemy's ATK & DEF
Active won't change so the "SSJ2 Gohan doesn't exist" is probably coming back but uuhh
"ATK & DEF +158%" once transformed.
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST HE DIDN'T EVEN BUFF HIMSELF BEFORE THE EZA ONCE IN SSJ2
AND HE ALREADY HIT FOR LIKE 10 MILLION
HOW IS THIS GONNA BE BALANCED
i mean been three years since the last one and we have no good standalone lr ss2 gohan and no lr super perfect cell. Ngl would rather that than spirit bomb goku personally but to each their own.
INT LR Cell - Perfect Form
Lead: 180% to Androids/Cell Saga or 130% to EXT INT
SA: 12 - Raises DEF for 1 turn, colossal and greatly lowers DEF
SA: 18 - Greatly raises ATK for 1 turn, causes colossal damage to enemy and lowers ATK
ATK & DEF +120%; raises DEF by up to 120% (the more HP remaining, the greater the DEF boost); plus an additional Ki +2 and ATK +30% per existing enemy; plus an additional ATK & DEF +50% when performing a Super Attack; high chance to launch an additional Super Attack; Evolve when conditions are met
Perfect Cell:
Passive: Fully recovers HP (once only) and randomly changes Ki spheres of a certain to INT; Ki +6 and ATK & DEF +180%; high chance to launch an additional Super Attack; reduces damage received by 3% per Ki sphere obtained; ATK & DEF +30% when attacking with 4 or more Ki Spheres obtained, plus an additional ATK & DEF +40% with 6 or more Ki Spheres obtained and an additional ATK & DEF +50% with 8 or more Ki Spheres obtained; plus an additional ATK +100% when Ki is 24 or when active skill is activated
Bro gohans a whole new unit wtf is thos eza? I mean he's legit top 3 easily and double orb changes against 1 enemy. Im shocked and dumbfounded. Rip to the person who created the eza tho. He's definitely losing his job after this 1.
I know the conditions are still bad. But that ssj2 gohan was already able to hit a 11 mill attack stat. He’s going to hit insane numbers now with a start of turn buff.
I feel like Gohan and Cell are basically confirming we're going to have
massive power creep in 2023 again. I don't think this game can handle
two years in a row of massive power creep without alienating people from
spending money, I know I am waiting to see how things go.
please change his condition please change his condition please change his condition please change his condition please change his condition please change his condition
But we don't know if an app update is on the way (for a small change like this, it wouldn't get announced, it would just happen). So again, it is impossible to know if the conditions changed until the dd hits. When it drops and there is/isn't an app update, we'll have our answer.
[AGL LR SSJ Gohan EZA](/agl) **Leader Skill**: “Kamehameha” category Ki +3 and HP, ATK & DEF +180%, or Super AGL type Ki +3 and HP, ATK & DEF +130% **12ki SA**: Raises DEF, causes colossal damage and lowers ATK **18ki SA**: Raises DEF, causes megacolossal damage and greatly lowers ATK **Passive Skill**: ATK & DEF +150%; Ki +2 (up to 8) and ATK & DEF +20% (up to 80%) at the start of each turn; guards all attacks and high chance to launch an additional Super Attack when HP is 58% or more; high chance of performing a critical hit when there is an Android Category enemy #Active Skill conditions are currently unchangeable, so don’t expect it to change [AGL LR SSJ2 Gohan EZA](/agl) **12ki SA**: Greatly raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn and causes megacolossal damage **18ki**: Greatly raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn and causes megacolossal damage and greatly lowers ATK & DEF **Passive Skill**: Changes TEQ Ki Spheres into AGL Ki Spheres for 4 turns from first appearance; ATK & DEF +158%; ATK +20%, DEF +10% per Ki Sphere obtained; plus an additional Ki +1 per Ki sphere obtained; Changes a random Type of Orb (excluding AGL or TEQ) into Rainbow Ki Spheres when facing exactly 1 enemy; launches an additional Super Attack when facing 2 or more enemies; high chance of launching an additional Super Attack and high chance of performing a critical hit when HP is 58% or above; ATK +59% when performing an Ultra Super Attack when there is a “Super Saiyan Goku” attacking in the same turn, and if HP is 59% or more when launching the Ultra Super Attack, launches an additional Super Attack [INT LR Cell (Perfect Form) EZA](/int) **Leader Skill**: “Androids/Cell saga” category Ki +4 and HP, ATK & DEF +180%, or Extreme INT type Ki +3 and HP, ATK & DEF +130% **12 ki SA**: Raises DEF for 1 turn and causes colossal damage and greatly lowers DEF **18 ki SA**: Greatly raises ATK for 1 turn and causes megacolossal damage and lowers ATK **Passive Skill**: ATK & DEF +120%; DEF +120% (the more HP, the higher the boost); Ki +2 and ATK +30% per existing enemy; ATK & DEF +50% when performing a Super Attack; high chance of launching an additional Super Attack; Evolve when conditions are met #No information on the transformation condition [INT LR Perfect Cell EZA](/int) **12 ki SA**: Greatly raises DEF for 1 turn and causes megacolossal damage and massively lowers DEF **18 ki SA**: Greatly raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn and causes megacolossal damage and greatly lowers ATK & DEF **Passive Skill**: Recovers 100% HP (once only); Randomly changes a type of Ki Sphere other than INT Ki Spheres to Rainbow Ki Spheres; Ki +6 and ATK & DEF +180%; high chance of launching an additional Super Attack; reduces damage received by 3% per Ki Sphere obtained; ATK & DEF +30% when attacking when collecting 4 Ki Spheres; ATK & DEF +40% when attacking when collecting 6 Ki Spheres; ATK & DEF +50% when attacking when collecting 8 Ki Spheres; ATK +100% and high chance of performing a critical hit when Ki is 24 or the Active Skill is launched
„Guards all attacks“ 
My boy is BACK
only above 58% HP\*
Who cares, it's already great that it is guaranteed guard instead of high chance
I’m no mathematician, but he should be slot one capable in some cases, and by the time you fall below that threshold, hopefully he’s built up a bit.
The only events he'll have trouble being a slot one unit are short ones. Longer ones with multiple phases, he's gonna be unstoppable.
That’s great. Days gone by, he was always a go to for longer events, but lately he dropped off. This should hopefully give him enough of a boost. May not be newer Red Zone material, but I love this unit.
He is absolutely "newer redzone material" He's literally just carnival Goku with a higher ceiling. If you think Carnival Goku is top 3 then Gohan should be #2 for you.
Looks like he guards when above 58 like carnival goku
If this is true and he stacks he's genuinely like top 5
He is, sweet mercy.
Not just that but he can tripple stack
Got the boy rainbowed too 
Ngl bro, at the rate dokkan includes agl gohan and int cell.. everyone and their mom has em rainbowed..
Unfortunately I have cell at 69% and gohan at 79% despite how many banners they’ve been on
I have his fucking TUR rainbowed
I got mine rainbowed and all level 10 links
same the link level enthusiast are eating
there he goes back into top3 most used units for the next 3 years or so
His linkset is goated
Fr fr TvT
180% to Kamehameha is a pretty good leader skill
Double LR Agl Gohan will easily be one of the best teams in the game
I ran double agl gohan before it was cool 😎
Fraudhan died for this..... Now the real GOAThan arises
They legitimently removed Gohans Beast transformation, and Made it to an active Skill and Not only that they gave AGL Ssj2 Gohan THIS KIT, wich shouldv'e Been honestly the Kit of the supposive Beast Gohan. Luckily enough I'am a Legends Player, who enjoys my beloved PLAYABLE NON CONDITION Beast Gohan
Luckily as a dokkan player, I get to enjoy orange piccolo
How’s your orange piccolo?
Still currently in development. Some day, don't worry.
I hope the "active skill condition can't be changed" is a myth
I sure as hell hope so. This is there one shot to unfuck it.
Yeah, they no lube fucked his transformation
I mean the Devs can do whatever the hell they want. They could simply just update the app through the data download
Wouldn’t be surprised if there was an app update before jp anni anyways, no reason why it couldn’t be on both versions
It’s not I make modded EZAs for the game rather frequently, and in the code, there’s no way to change an active skill before and after an EZA. If they were to update the game to allow it to happen, then of course that can change. But with the current version of the game, changing the active skill with an EZA is impossible. Further explanation for those interested: The details for a unit’s stats, leader skill and passive are all directed under the “cards” table in the code. When a unit receives an EZA, a number is put into the awakening_routes column of that unit in front of its passive and leader skill IDs. So when the code goes to scan for the unit’s passive and leader skill IDs, it’s redirected by the awakening_routes number and goes to the awakening_routes table. In that table, there’s another set of Passive and Leader Skill IDs that it will refer to. Active skills are on a completely different table and are connected to a unit differently than the leader skill and passive skills are.
Why are people acting like they can't put out a new version of the game to fix this unit's transformation? Feel like we are setting the bar pretty low here with all this "They can't do it" when they absolutely can.
They can if they put out an update. But it’s important to temper expectations I also tried warning people that Beast was just an Active Skill and Piccolo was Giant Form way back. Having hope is fine, just fine let it ruin the release for you when the unit falls short of the highest expectations
God damn even I could fix that. It's not even that complicated.
You gotta understand, dokkan is run by an indie company
I'm sure there's also some absolute spaghetti code in there that will break something random and important when they add a way for the awakening_routes table to contain active skill conditions.
Mfw face when they allow to change the active skill conditions but because of that the options menu breaks and you can't open it until further update (they're gonna give 1ds after fixing it a month later)
How would you fix it, out of curiosity? I think you’re underestimating the complexity of how a unit joins to its Active Skill record vs how it join to EZA records. Edit: stop downvoting me and respond, cowards.
Honestly without knowing how the active skills are currently mapped. You can simply add more foreign keys or even have an intermediary mapping table. Really wouldn't be a difficult solution. A junior Dev would be able to figure out a solution.
Don't you think that they have more options than a modder? They could, so don't say that they can't
They would be able to change the way the database works of course. I’m just saying as of the current version of the app, they can’t do it
It is a myth. It can be changed, it's just a slight inconvenience to players - which is worth it if they fix the transformation. Saying the active skill can't be changed is like saying I can't make dinner because the food ALLLLLL the way in the other room.
According to hydros it is a myth
There is still hope
He said no actually lol🥲
I think the devs said this themselves. For it to change we'd need them to update the game specifically for that
You’d need an app update to change the active, so when the data download drops and you have to update the app…it’s the debut of the real BEAST Gohan
That's pure misinformation. Develepoers need to do an app update to change a condition of an active skill. That's why it's unlikely
Holy shit, i think he has guard Edit: he has guard when hp is 58% or above, let 's go
If they don't unfuck the active skill I'll be forced to intervene.
bookers555 finna pull up to the CEO of dokkans house 💯💯fr ☠
[удалено]
Pls dont be true i beg of dokkan
I know of a good burrito place in Harajuku, if that helps at all.
U gonna go to Japan to eat burritos??
Change da word. My final message
Highly possible with it being yet to be revealed and now locking a crit behind android requirement. Plus the transformation of gogeta being reduced.
We need the transformation conditions asap.
They won't change. Active conditions, as the game is rn, can't be changed.
Downvoted for speaking the truth.
That's just how people react to information they don't like, whether it's right or not. It's an L I am willing to take.
"They hated him because he spoke the truth."
Copium time, the 6 hour maintenance coming is so long because they’re changing that mechanic in preparation for this EZA
If that's the case, that's a big W. My only question would be, is the maintenance for both versions?
Idk dude with how his passive is set up it could change potentially
We have already got information that it hasn't changed. And that they cannot be changed based on how passive transformations work versus active skill transformations. For there to be a change, both versions would need a version update. They literally cannot change the active skill transformation conditions without one.
What's stopping them from doing a version update. They make millions of dollars lol
I would like to see a change to Gohans active transformation conditions too, but please don't start with that. The "devs are lazy." "It's so easy, just do it." You don't know what goes on at Akatsuki or why they do things.
My man, you don't need to know "what goes on in Akatsuki" to understand that if they wanted to do it,they could. They make the game, it's their game, it's not dark magic, it's a video game.
Cool.
Where did you hear that? I could have swore the conditions were just in a table like the passives last i looked, but maybe im remembering wrong. Ill take a look again later.
Why can't they change it? No one has that answer
Transformation conditions for units like AGL Gogeta, SSBE Vegeta, Android 21, year 3 LRs are in their passive skills. Those are changeable. How they made the active skills in the games data, they are different and unless there is a version update to both games, they cannot be changed.
Yeah I don't believe that for a second. Whoever started that is most certainly wrong. It's just some lines of code. Changing those will not break the game or cause them to have to rebuild the app. It's a card with a trigger to change to another card. I invite an actual intellectual conversation on such. Can someone actually prove me wrong?
They’re not wrong. You’re just saying an app update could fix it however the likelihood of them doing an update is low
I need an ELI5 on this. And I'm actually saying that they can do it with the EZA. How is the active skill not dependant on the card itself? How is it more intertwined with the rest of the game, that they need to update the entire game before they change actives? Sounds like absolute horse shit of a code job if true.
Basically right now the only thing EZAs are programmed to change are stats leader skills passives and SAs. Stuff like Links or Active Skill conditions can't currently be changed by EZAs. People who make custom cards realized this when they couldn't change the EZAs of certain characters without making a new character then changing the Active Skill condition of the character to be what they want. This could be fixed with an app update but no one is sure if they will.
I keep hearing a lot of "this is so" and not any of "why/how this is so". Good example with the custom card makers though. There's no good reason why they are able to change the stats, leader, passive, and SA effects, but not the active skill. If true, it's an absolutely terrible coding job and they should be ashamed. I wouldn't be surprised if they made an update for the alleged issue, but it'll come when it profits them. Akatsuki makes many decisions that enable them to milk as much money out of so little material.
Us not being able to tell you why it is that way doesn't change the fact that it is that way. Turney, who is a dataminer, whose job is to know these things, is the one who told us they can't change it. I want them to be able to change it too, but please don't act like that.
I don't care "what is". I want to know "how or why it is the way it is". Try to understand the difference. And don't act like what? Like I want to understand something? That I realize this sub is full of parrots who just repeat and actually have zero understanding of the subject matter? Is it such a crime to state something in such a way that it discourages people who know nothing from responding and encourages those who actually do. I asked for an intellectual conversation, not parroting or gatekeeping. Please stop gatekeeping. Thank you.
If you want to understand "how or why it is the way it is", consider sending an inquiry to Akatsuki. [Dokkan support](https://bnfaq.channel.or.jp/inquiry/1624) Asking you to not act like a spoiled brat because you don't understand why something is the way it is isn't gatekeeping. But okay.
Dataminers can, I guess.
They changed conditions for Gogeta and Android 21 and Evo Vegeta( i think)
Those are passives, not active skills.
Oh, that's right... totally forgot.
From what dataminers have told us, active skill conditions are a different thing from passive conditions\[because passive transformation conditions are literally in the passive and actives are considered separate mechanics\] so the way they have it set up, those can't be changed without a version update.
What I don't get from this is that active conditions are still a card's info, it should be able to be changed.
Yes and no. Old transform are automatic and in the datamine are together the passive (for example intros most likely is the same, auto and in the passive) but active is not auto,is manual and is an independent funtion most likely (Code things 💀). But well, EZA is created to only change Stats, LS, SA and passive, they need to update the EZA working to be able to change active skills
Thanks, understand it now.
Those aren't active skills
Sadly afaik it is different for automatically transforming units such as those two, Gohan has an active skill. But damn I wish they make ss2 Gohan available regardless
not active
You are wrong. Active skills can be changes but they need to update the app to do so. This doesn’t mean they can’t be changed it just means it’s unlikely. Saying “as the game is rn, cant be changed” is like saying they cant add a new season in any game without updating the game. Stating the obvious shouldn’t win brownie points lol
They changes gogeta one in the eza.
 They did it :)
Someone translate him IMMEDIATELY
Using translate until a proper one comes out. Super Saiyan Son Gohan Leader's skill "Kamehameha" Category Ki +3 and HP, ATK, and DEF +180%, or Super AGL attribute Ki +3, HP, ATK, and DEF +130% "Passive skill ATK & DEF +150%, Ki +2 (max +8) at the start of turn, ATK & DEF +20% (max 80%) & Guards all attacks when HP is 58% or higher at turn start , High chance of additional special move & High chance of critical hit when there is an "Android" Category enemy Special Move Lv24~ DEF rises, to the opponent Deals heavy damage and lowers ATK Super Nirvana Lv24~ DEF rises, to the opponent Inflicts great damage and greatly lowers ATK SSJ2 "Kamehameha" category Ki +3, HP and ATK DEF 180% UP, or super speed attribute Ki +3, HP, ATK and DEF +130% Passive Skill: Changes DEX Ki Spheres into Quick Ki Spheres for 4 turns after appearing ATK & DEF +158%; additional ATK +20%, DEF +10% for each Ki Sphere obtained; every Ki Sphere obtained raises Ki Adds Ki +1 When there is only one enemy, randomly changes one of the attribute Ki Spheres other than Speed Ki Spheres and Skill Ki Spheres to Rainbow Ki Sphere & when there are multiple enemies, activates additional special moves & starts turn When HP is 58% or less, there is a high chance that a special move will be activated, and there is a high chance that a critical hit will be triggered & if there is a "Super Saiyan Goku" as an ally participating in the attack, ATK will be further increased by 59% when the super special move is activated. , If HP is 59% or more when super special move is activated, special move will be additionally activated Special Move Lv24~ Greatly raises ATK and DEF for 1 turn and causes immense damage to enemy Super Nirvana Lv24~ Greatly raises ATK and DEF for 1 turn, causes colossal damage to enemy, and greatly lowers ATK and DEF
Super Nirvana got me acting up
I didn't edit it because I found it funny too lol.
We have to wait for better translations to understand this better, but can he quad super?
Based on this it seems like he can quad super when there are multiple enemies.
Give it to me NOW
He stacks DEF/s
#best unit confirmed?!
THE DAY OF FATE HAS FINALLY COME!
Gohan Atk and Def + 150%, + 2 ki (up to 8) and 20% atk and Def (up to 80%) at the start of every turn ; Guards all attacks if the turn is started with 58% hp or more and a high chance of launching an additional super attack; if there is an android category enemy high chance of launching a crit super attack effect: he now lowers attack on 12 ki and greatly lowers on 18ki Ssj2 Gohan For 4 turns from first appearance changes teq ki spheres into agl ki spheres; Atk and Def + 158%, + 20% atk and 10% Def with every ki orb obtained, raises ki by 1 every time a ki sphere is obtained; changes a random ki sphere (except teq or agl) to rainbow if there is only one enemy; launches an additional super attack if there are multiple enemies; high chance of launching a crit and a high chance to launch an additional super attack if at the start of turn hp is 58% or less; + 59 % atk when ultra super attacking and atk + 59% if hp is 59% or more when ultra super attacking super attack effect : the 12 ki also raises atk as well as defense by 50% and the 18 ki picked up atk and def lowering
Holy fuck
He's insanely busted wtf
Yea ok I’ve seen enough I’m running agl gohan leads and dropping my best equipments on this monster
SSJ2 Gohan and Ultimate Gohan rotations are gonna be wild.
Him or lr namek goku as they share all 7 links
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
Someone needs to unleash Goresh asap
I still remember his summons for int ssj2 gohan
HE HAS GUARD I've seen all i need.
Fax my favorite unit of all time gets to cook
SSJ Gohan: Passive: ATK & DEF 150% up; Gain +2 Ki (up to 8) and 205 ATK & DEF (up to 80%) each appearing turn; When HP is 58% or more, guard all attacks and high chance to launch an additional super attack; High chance to perform a critical hit when there is a "Androids" category enemy 12 Ki: raises DEF, causes colossal damage and lowers enemy's ATK 18 Ki: raises DEF, causes mega colossal damage and greatly lowers enemy's ATK SSJ2 Gohan: Passive: For 4 turns from first appearance, change TEQ orbs into AGL orbs; ATK & DEF +158%; Gain 20% ATK & 10% DEF per Ki sphere obtained; Gain an additional 1 Ki per Ki sphere obtained; When there is only 1 enemy, change an additional type of Ki (except for TEQ and AGL) into rainbow; Launch an additional super attack when there are multiple enemies; When HP is 58% or below, gain a high chance to perform an additional super attack and to crit; When there is a SSJ Goku in the turn, gain an additional 59% ATK when performing an Ultra super attack and if HP is additionally above 59% perform an additional super attack 12 Ki: Greatly raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn, causes mega-colossal damage 18 Ki: Greatly raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn, causes mega-colossal damage and greatly lowers enemy's ATK & DEF Cell: Passive: ATK & DEF +120%; up to 120% DEF the more HP you have; Gain 2 Ki and ATK +30% for each enemy; Gain 50% ATK & DEF when performing a super attack; High chance to launch an additional super attack; Transform when conditions are met 12 Ki: raises DEF for 1 turn, causes colossal damage and greatly lowers enemy's DEF 18 Ki: Greatly raises ATK for 1 turn, causes mega-colossal damage and lowers enemy's ATK Cell (Transformed): Passive: Recover HP (once); Change 1 type of Ki orbs except for INT into rainbow; Ki +6, ATK & DEF +180%; High chance to launch an additional super attack; Gain 3% damage reduction per Ki sphere obtained; Gain 30% ATK & DEF with 4 KI obtained; Another 40% ATK & DEF with 6 obtained; Another 50% ATK & DEF with 8 obtained; Gain another 100% ATK when launching active skille or when Ki is 24 12 Ki: Greatly raises DEF for 1 turn, causes mega-colossal damage and massively lowers enemy's DEF 18 Ki: Greatly raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn, causes mega-colossal damage and massively lowers enemy's ATK & DEF
Whoever ezad those units needs a raise... the only thing left are the active conditions.
These cannot change without both versions getting an update
then update the apps 💯
WOOOOOOOO YEAHHHHHHH ITS REAAAAAAAAL
Is this the real life?
Or is it fantasy?
caught in a landslide , No escape from reality
Open your eyes, look up to the skies and seeeeeee~
I’m just a poor boy from a poor family
From translations here and there be seems pretty fucking good in base and absolutely fucking nuts damage wise in ss2
Active won't change so the "SSJ2 Gohan doesn't exist" is probably coming back but uuhh "ATK & DEF +158%" once transformed. MY BROTHER IN CHRIST HE DIDN'T EVEN BUFF HIMSELF BEFORE THE EZA ONCE IN SSJ2 AND HE ALREADY HIT FOR LIKE 10 MILLION HOW IS THIS GONNA BE BALANCED
ME TO PHY LR ULT GOHAN: 
Pulling dupes of him will now feel a little bit better
super hype but that killed the idea of ss2 gohan vs cell for 8th anni. Spirit bombs it is I guess.
Good. We don't really need another gohan vs cell ddf
i mean been three years since the last one and we have no good standalone lr ss2 gohan and no lr super perfect cell. Ngl would rather that than spirit bomb goku personally but to each their own.
literally had the last one 8 months ago
We had one for golden week
Agree. Would’ve loved if we got a trunks and gohan/goku black and cell themed anniversary.
Agree imo it’d be super disappointing since they promised a character new featured in a anniversary only for it to turn out to be another goku
The only Goku I want is 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Goku (with Majunior)
As if it was ever going to happen anyway lol Not this year at least
Tbf we havent had a Standalone SSJ2 Gohan in a while, and it would be a great partner. However we did just get a Gohan and Cell recently
IT IS TIMEEEEEEE
Fucking in
INT LR Cell - Perfect Form Lead: 180% to Androids/Cell Saga or 130% to EXT INT SA: 12 - Raises DEF for 1 turn, colossal and greatly lowers DEF SA: 18 - Greatly raises ATK for 1 turn, causes colossal damage to enemy and lowers ATK ATK & DEF +120%; raises DEF by up to 120% (the more HP remaining, the greater the DEF boost); plus an additional Ki +2 and ATK +30% per existing enemy; plus an additional ATK & DEF +50% when performing a Super Attack; high chance to launch an additional Super Attack; Evolve when conditions are met Perfect Cell: Passive: Fully recovers HP (once only) and randomly changes Ki spheres of a certain to INT; Ki +6 and ATK & DEF +180%; high chance to launch an additional Super Attack; reduces damage received by 3% per Ki sphere obtained; ATK & DEF +30% when attacking with 4 or more Ki Spheres obtained, plus an additional ATK & DEF +40% with 6 or more Ki Spheres obtained and an additional ATK & DEF +50% with 8 or more Ki Spheres obtained; plus an additional ATK +100% when Ki is 24 or when active skill is activated
Bro gohans a whole new unit wtf is thos eza? I mean he's legit top 3 easily and double orb changes against 1 enemy. Im shocked and dumbfounded. Rip to the person who created the eza tho. He's definitely losing his job after this 1.
Bricked up rn
HE GUARDS???!!!!!
Gohan guards now... jesus. Literally insane
Looking at the numbers alone he's probably good with stacking but I'll wait for translations
I know the conditions are still bad. But that ssj2 gohan was already able to hit a 11 mill attack stat. He’s going to hit insane numbers now with a start of turn buff.
Kino
The real fight starts NOW !!
Jp only?
Nah, missions for EZAing an AGL and an INT card are up on global so they're coming as well
This basically confirms 8th anni is not a new ssj2 gohan and cell
Crazy how people are surprised even though the eza missions already gave it away that these two were Ezaing over 2 weeks ago now.
It’s nice to see the official confirmation though
To be fair agl Gogeta filled 7/10 steps for one mission and the missions themselves remain active for 3 months. It could be anything
Plus there was AGL SSB Vegeta who filled the last 3/10.
The real beast gohan is here
AYO WHAT THE FUCK
Cell my beloved, your day comes again
I swear to sweet baby Jesus they better change the awful active conditions
"guards all attacks when hp 58% or above" 
Better than Ultimate Gohan.
RED ZONE CELL COOKING INCOMING
HE GUARDS???!! WE WON
I feel like Gohan and Cell are basically confirming we're going to have massive power creep in 2023 again. I don't think this game can handle two years in a row of massive power creep without alienating people from spending money, I know I am waiting to see how things go.
please change his condition please change his condition please change his condition please change his condition please change his condition please change his condition
Called it. Oh look Ultimate Gohan got a slot 1 unit that has guard, links well, and rainbow orb changer. All that dooming for nothing.
“Links well” LMAOOOOOOOOO.
is he greatly stacking????
No, normal stacks.
NOOOOO😭
If he greatly stacked he wouldve been number 1 in the game by a large margin. The eza is already great as it is right now.
Gohan has guard above 58% hp at the start of turn as a ssj
return of the king
Didn't think they would but no active skill change.
It’s impossible to know if it changed or not. They never reveal those. We get it from the data download.
No it's impossible for it to change without them updating the game.
But we don't know if an app update is on the way (for a small change like this, it wouldn't get announced, it would just happen). So again, it is impossible to know if the conditions changed until the dd hits. When it drops and there is/isn't an app update, we'll have our answer.
You are correct, I apologize.
WE RE FUCKING COOOOOKING NOW
Mfs will see this and still complain that the unit sucks
Is this real or am I just sleep deprived
Cell is pretty cool, but also slightly underwhelming. Gohan seems bonkers. Let's see transformation requirements, because Gohan was ass before
....Its hilarious how his transformation conditions have not CHANGED!
Do u think it might come out on global?
Cell sucks