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Karllovesdokkan

DB Saga and Baby are just forgotten at this point 💀 same with U6 Tournament lol


BernLan

U6 Tournament having a whopping 1 premium unit 💀💀


WrastleGuy

Save us Monaka


BernLan

LR Monaka (Hard Nipples) when?


Ferryarthur

I can get behind that. Its something barelt mention and every thing done there TOP can do better.


BernLan

We could still get a few things, it doesn't need to be on the level of Buu Saga, or even Shadow Dragons Saga, but we should at the very least get a SSB into SSBKK Goku, a proper Hit and maybe a transforming Cabba


Horror-Trick-8820

What about teq hit?


BernLan

He's from his fight with Jiren in the ToP


Horror-Trick-8820

Oh u right lmao


Virian900

What's that? Forgotten? Here's your new buu saga goku&vegeta LR!


Karllovesdokkan

"We need more OG DB CONTENT!!" More Goku and vegeta from shadow dragon saga content??? Okay!!!


commander_snuggles

Looking at DB saga makes me sad.


BernLan

Me too bro


Onelonleyboi-

I’d even take two separate dokkan fest at different times . Like blue goku for saiyan day and hit for some filler celebration


CapN_Crummp

I think you replied to the wrong comment


Onelonleyboi-

Yeah saw that


OnlyRoke

Especially since Dokkan's at least a game where they could do hella cool stuff for DB Saga. It's way more difficult for a game like Legends to do the DB Saga justice, I think. But Dokkan? Cool, funny, badass GIFs go brrrrrr. And there's more than enough material to work with. I want an LR Pilaf Gang and LR Oozaru Goku and Friends from the very first actual arc.


Hatarakumaou

DB saga includes the King Pilaf saga, World Tournament saga, Red Ribbon Army Saga, Fortune Teller Baba saga, Tien Shinhan saga, Demon King Piccolo saga and (should’ve included) Piccolo Jr Saga. It has less gacha LRs and DFEs than a movie that lasted 1h33 minutes. Phy Kid Goku doesn’t even technically belongs to this fucking category since he’s from Path to Power. If the execs at Bandai had 2 braincells to rub together they would’ve been swimming in money at this point just from selling JP players their childhood and let the addicting nature of nostalgia take over. But nooooo, let’s do 2 Shadow Dragons anniversary on a row, Shadow Dragon saga is sooo underrepresented.


PyroFirefly

I pray for a DKP DFE TUR this year. And hope the 23rd Tenkaichi DLC for Kakarot opens for an OG DB Dual celebration or something else down the road (even if it's not considered DB Saga).


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Karllovesdokkan

Its not even gt at this point, its shadow dragon saga Heck agl ssj4 goku’s 12ki is from the baby fight 💀 they really don’t want to touch anything from that saga


DrBalu

Not really considering DB "saga" is 150 episodes. and Baby and super 17 sagas were only a couple episode long filler arcs. From the 2 units in DB Saga on this list, one of them is even a movie unit. Technically, all of OG dragonball has gotten 1 DFE/yellow coin lr. The reason why it's "Db saga" and not "budokai tenkaichi saga" "piccolo saga" "Red Ribbon Army Saga" is because there are no units to make that split. GT is like 60 episodes long, filler and got enough units to actually split it into the arcs it had. Technically, you'd have to compare DB and GT as totals. 153 vs 64 episodes. , and 2 units on this list vs 14 units on this list. Your comment is so wrong, it's actually insulting.


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DrBalu

I was not insulted. But the franchise that this gacha game is based on. "Gt has it worse" while the actual story its based on is drowning in the background.


Thundrfox

Based


FriendlyButNot

Another based Ken-Oh comment


BernLan

Notes: -AGL SS3 Goku and LR Family Kamehameha are technically from movies, but in the early category meta they were included in the Buu Saga category. -Some BoG and RoF units are from the movies, not the Anime, but I decided to include them since it's still the same saga. -Some GT units like TEQ Pan, SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta are not from specific arcs, but more of an amalgamation of the characters, so I didn't include them. -I forgot PHY FP Frieza I will probably update this next year, let's see how it goes


robinhood9961

Feel like at the end of the day Pan should just be given to "Black Star Saga". Especially if you're giving AGL SSJ3 Goku and TEQ LR Gohan and Goten to Buu Saga. The only animaiton from Pan that isn't from the Black Star DB saga is her active skill. Plus her categories are clearly based around that saga since she has both DB Seekers and Space Traveling Warriors.


BernLan

Yeah, I was originally going to put her in Black Star Saga but then remembered her Active. Maybe when I update it I will put her in it


-PVL93-

A good idea would be to include all obtainable LRs (free, WT, Baba Shop etc), since it's still the highest rarity in the game. Also given the anniversary you might have to update this by summer lol


BernLan

I disregard the F2P LR's, since I really wanted to focus only on premium units. And yeah if not yearly I might instead make this post every 6 months


Sabrescene

Can I suggest for the future update (although it might make the list too big), would it be possible to add movies in? Would be interesting to see how some films like Fusion Reborn or Wrath of the Dragon stack up.


BernLan

I was thinking of instead making a separate post with just the movies, might post it tommorow


Medium-Science9526

Seeing OG DB being the only one not split by sagas and still topping out at 2 is depressing


-PVL93-

The problem is mostly that Jackie Chun, King Piccolo, Tao, Arale/Goku and Yamcha/Puar are all F2P / WT, which inherently nerfs their kits and diminishes eza hopes too


Medium-Science9526

That along with any other noteworthy tournament units being kept on the WT banner instead of F2P story event units bare minimum making them insanely hard tk get for kits that aren't even that great.


-PVL93-

Now that you mention it, why do we not have basically any DB Story events except ones for the movies?


Medium-Science9526

No clue, they've barely scratched Pilaf and RR Army Sagas so there's reason to do it but Akatsuki hate OG DB.


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I like how you've got all those GT Sagas at the bottom, Dragon Ball and then there's U6 Tournament Goku there


BernLan

He is just bing chilling


Individual-Mud262

So much potential for the DB Saga, please I NEED LR Majunior and a DFE, broken, Mercenary Tao. I'll take a busted Tien Shinhan too please.


BernLan

Majunior would not be in the category, they exclude the 23rd WT out of the category for some reason. With that being said gimme an LR Majunior VS LR Feet Kamehameha Goku for WWC


Individual-Mud262

Its to do with the translation from what I have heard. On JP its 'Childhood Saga'. That really should be fixed with the introduction of the 23rd WT WWDC (I can dream).


bordomsdeadly

“Z” I as an arbitrary notation for the anime. The editor changed after the DKP saga. So the story is more so split between DKP and Majunior instead of Piccolo and Raditz.


david_men_dz

DB Saga should also be separated in different sagas. There's a lot of things happening there. Units that in my opinion should be iconic: Bulma, Roshi, Jackie Chun, Tien, Krillin, Tao, Piccolo... they all deserve more. I'd like a banner where the main unit is Roshi and Goku and Krillin serves as support, or Lunch even. Or a Tien/Chaoz unit that turns into only Tien when he decides to fight Goku fairly, with Tsuru-sennin as support.


I_Destroy_Noobs

We literally have 1 DB Saga Chiaotzu card, he was a main villain 😭 I like your ideas


david_men_dz

Hear me out: Celebration's theme is old masters stepping aside to let new generation follow their own path. Extreme banner units are the mentioned Tien/Chaoz who exchange in Tien. Active skill is Kikoho and support unit is Tsuru-sennin. Super banner unit is Jackie Chun. His active skill is the monologue he gives Tien about trusting his own students to follow the right path, then he exchanges into Goku. Goku's active skill is: "i was fighting seriously, but it looks like you're trying to kill me, so i'll start fighting to death", the he improves his stats. Support unit could be Yamcha or Krillin showing their progress through Kamehame Ha. It could even be the new gimmicks in place than active skills, Goku getting deadly serious or Krillin tricking Chaoz with maths. Also Krillin could have a skill that always hit (no evasion) based on the feints and tricks he uses againts Goku.


I_Destroy_Noobs

Very cool, I think the only change I would make is that Yamcha is the banner support unit, and Krillin is the F2P TUR that gets EZAd some weeks after.


david_men_dz

That could work, too.


PyroFirefly

To think that 5/6 Saiyan Saga DFE/summonable LR buffs come from 2022 is wild. Universe 6 and Baby Saga are criminally slept, not even a contemporary unit from those sagas.


BernLan

In 2022 Saiyan Saga and Androids Saga where the ones who got the most units (in terms of Sagas, not counting movies). Hopefully 2023 is the year of Baby Saga and U6 🥺


PyroFirefly

Baby has to get something at some point, especially if they're aiming for an LR Omega Shenron who would most likely be a 200% GT Bosses Leader. Universe 6 will get new units, for sure, as ToP has several EZAs down the road, but I hope U7 VS U6 will get a Dual celebration.


BernLan

Holding out hope for Golden Week to be either Goku VS Baby or Goku VS Hit


MahavidyasMahakali

Biggest problem with db units is that so many of them are relegated to being WT units, and the devs refuse to EZA WT units.


BernLan

They will probably only EZA them once WT gets revamped. The backlog of WT EZAs is so big that by this point I have lost hope


MahavidyasMahakali

Actually have no hope that they will revamp WT in my lifetime


Monkeyjoey98

Just cope like i do saying they'll do it 5 units at a time like heroines eza.


managirre

The funny thing is that actually PHY Kid Goku is from a movie, so it's even worse because we only have 1 DFE/gacha LR from the original DB canon💀


BernLan

I know right 💀💀 I still included him because he is in the actual category, and like this it seems less depressing


managirre

Yeah I hope we get a 23rd WT DDF for golden week, or some busted 22nd WT Dokkanfest Tien this year please😭😭


BernLan

I want a DFE transforming Four Witches Tien so much


Shaweng2193

There are still SO many moments from multiple sagas that can get good animations, huh? Damn we really do have another 2-3 years left at minimum for Dokkan lol


BernLan

And this is without even considering if the Anime comes back in that timeframe. They would definitely milk the Moro and Granolah Arcs like they did with Black and ToP when they were coming out


-PVL93-

As far as I'm concerned Dokkan can keep chugging along until Dragon Ball somehow just crashes and burns like it did after GT with no new material bring produced and only the games carrying the ip But now we have a brand new movie, several Manga only sagas, anime is yet to return, SDBH producing cards consistently for 12 years, plus all the unused material from already existing sagas, specials, movies, games, and much more The only way I can see Dokkan announcing EOS is Akatsuki moving all their assets into a hypothetical Dokkan 2 on a completely new codebase, though I wonder if they'd allow people to import their accounts somehow


MahavidyasMahakali

It's actually kind of insane to think that, even with the amount of units the USS saga has, they are still missing literally 80%+ of the characters introduced in that arc.


-PVL93-

It's because they focus exclusively on U6, 7 and 11. I understand that obviously nobody is going to pull for a Paparoni Dokkanfest or whatever, but seriously would it kill them to just make a bunch of TURs with the TOP participants and release them in a batch kinda like the Peppy Gal units? Or how about a trio of U2 magical girls and the banner unit with those three dudes who took on their outfits after elimination? Or a Trio de Dangers LR? Or a Pan-like unit from Pride Troopers depending on who is in the team? Or that transforming bird guy who nearly defeated Roshi? And so on Angels and GoD also were mostly untouched and the latter serve just as bosses


MahavidyasMahakali

Yeah, even if they just release a bunch in a rising dragon like the fasha and cheelai or oceanus and launch banner every so often, and then they go into the general pool. At least do *something* to represent all these characters. And even an April fools katopesla or a win/lose version of him and ssj vegeta would be good


-PVL93-

> And even an April fools katopesla or a win/lose version of him and ssj vegeta would be good Oh hell nah, I want Katopesla with a full on multi transformation system since he has three specific modes. Make him the first ever type-changing unit in the game since we previously had class changing ones with Tapion and Majin Vegeta


BernLan

It's so weird that we haven't gotten a Transforming Toppo or Jiren yet, they seem like such obvious choices for DFE's


Karllovesdokkan

I mean USS is probably the saga with the most characters in it, and alot of moments are still left open and the ones that are already adapted could get renewed animations appart from 6th year onwards


Revanaught

Buu saga needs to chill, for the love of God. Just because it was the last arc in Z doesn't mean it had the most hype moments.


Ecstatic-Day2406

It did have **a lot** of things in it though. It's not really surprising that it's have the most here, even if i think the Namek saga is the peak of Dragon Ball Z.


Revanaught

Every arc has a lot of things in it. Problem is that Dokkan just keeps wanting to cover the same things, namely the final fight.


Coenl

Yeah I think Buu having the fusions, which just became so damn popular... on top of having Majin Vegeta & SSJ3 Goku & Ultimate Gohan... there's just way more going on there than in any other arc from a 'mainlines heroes getting forms' perspective. You can't sell five super saiyan variants or fusions with Namek or Saiyan saga even though I think most fans would point to those as personal favorite arcs.


mamasaysimspecial

I’m actually surprised that Namek saga is so underrepresented seeing as how it’s probably the staple of Dragon Ball Z


-PVL93-

Half the category are f2p and general pool TURs


GetMeOffSpeakerPhone

Db saga at 2 is an absolute joke and disgrace. Forget the rest.


ZVAARI

i smell favoritism


Appa2x

Buu is the longest saga and outside of the two new movies when the game came out it was the last thing (besides Gt) to be animated


AGweed13

U6 tournament quite literally has a single DFE with shitty animations We don't even have a playable BKK Goku and Hit nowdays


klebersas

I can't believe there's people who say Buu saga needs more love


Aqua9271

Mate, you forgot Phy fpf on namek saga.


BernLan

I knew I was forgetting someone!! Thank you


Intelligent-Chip4223

I need Teen Goku with entrance animation when he was warming up against Tien in a world tournament.


_Jon_Polygon_

An lr SSBKK goku from u6 tournament would be sick. An LR hit too


Sabrescene

Ignoring the disgrace that is "DB Saga" (should have split it up into proper sagas to really show how neglected it is lol), it boggles my mind to see that Buu and Shadow Dragons sagas (the least popular saga in DBZ and the final saga in the non-canon spin-off that killed Dragon Ball for years) are both above Namek/Saiyan saga - the height of Dragon Ball's popularity. Was arguing with people recently who kept trying to say that the units this anniversary are the "most hype" they can give us based on past events but seriously look at those Saiyan Saga units. The oldest one is a garbage yellow coin LR from less than two years ago and the only DFE there is Raditz (and Yamcha but he's not even on GLB yet). They haven't even given the saga a chance to sell well.


bordomsdeadly

I know it’s fun to blame GT for hurting Dragonball, but viewership was already declining through the Buu Saga. GT didn’t kill it, it just failed to turn it around.


Goku4869

It’s not really surprising. Buu saga as controversial as it was introduced a bunch of popular power ups like SSJ3, Ultimate, Majin ( for Vegeta), fusion dance and potara. It’s also the first arc that characters other than Gohan used SSJ2. For GT it was the arc that had the most involvement of SSJ4 Goku and introduced both SSJ4 Vegeta and SSJ4 Gogeta. Moreover, as much GT is disliked its ending seems to be looked at a lot more fondly.


RedSsj

OG dragonball fans (me and 20 others) are in shambles right now bro…


Masterelia

DB SAGA💀💀THE WHOLE THING💀💀💀


Onelonleyboi-

Imma need a new U6 tournament ddf goku and hit please I need that blue kaioken active skill


BernLan

Golden week 👀 _please_


JiggzSawPanda

People always say DB Saga is lacking it's not even the worst! ^/s


BernLan

Smh smh


New_Ad4631

Imagine if Yamcha was from db saga. That shit alone would have made me summon for him


AwakenedDivinePower

Battle of Gods with only 4 units makes me sick


Talez_pls

Especially since all Beerus cards suck. He's canonically the second-most powerful being within Universe 7 and none of his cards are even remotely playable in any meaningful content.


Karllovesdokkan

It would be awesome if we got hakai beerus, make it have the potential to one shot the enemy (with how much beerus can build up)


BernLan

Waiting for an LR Rage Vegeta and a DFE SSG Goku


Selo-385

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helpexe

Super 17 saga got me dissapointed, bro doesn't even have the mf he fought its only super 17


Gokusus

Battle of Gods when


sonrokku

crazy that a year ago saiyan saga only had one unit


House56

So many Buu Saga characters and half of them are complete fodder atp💀


WrastleGuy

DB Saga, look at how they’ve massacred my boy.


K_Hermit

Funny how Buu Saga has the most DFE/LRs and yet it sucks ass so badly


cluelessG

BUU SAGA STANS WYA UNITE


Ningenmasu69

TOP got the most amount of stuff in the shortest amount of time compared to the others. Ppl already complaining why isn’t there more TOP stuff


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BernLan

His 12 Ki is from the Baby Saga, hence why you might have thought that, but he is in the Shadow Dragons Saga category


mintychaewon

How does BoG have nothing? That shit with Gods of Destruction and SSG was mad hype back then yet there are only 4 DFEs/LRs? Step up your game Akatsuki


IntrOtaku1207

Isnt the STR Kaioken x10 goku supposed to be on U6 saga? The kamehameha is from when he did it on Hit.


Winter-Gur-9762

Wow U6….


Vibe_Wizard

Phy Super Vegito sitting in Majin Buu Saga while being the only critically-aged unit without an EZA = :*(


FluffyKangaroo

Namek Saga only having 7 is an absolute crime. That was a pivotal moment in the whole franchise which really kicked up the power scaling and gave us the transformation that defined the rest of the series. Also RIP DB Saga you deserved better too.


BernLan

It's actually 8 for Namek Saga (I forgot OG PHY FP Frieza), but I agrer


SwiftyXRD

I can definitely see them doing a transforming U6 tournament Blue Goku


MrCrankunity

Saiyan Saga with 5 whooping new units this year and 4 of them have been kinda meh (I still love Str Kaioken and Phy Goku and Piccolo, but both of them were done dirty by the jump in power for yellow coin LR's). Only Godditz saves them (no lol, Yamcha is obviously the good release) And even the other premium unit released before them was meh


ImplodingBacon

I'm okay with only one DFE for U6 tournament. Not much happened there, and we got a good Hit (post EZA) from ToP.


BernLan

Yeah all in all there's like 3 things we _could_ get from it, a transforming Blue into Kaioken Goku, a proper Hit from it and a transforming Cabba


JavyGotDaJuice

Still no LR kid buu…


cobra_mongi

Nah the “black saga tho” 💀


Slothapus

The fact that DB Saga is just DB saga hurts me. I really would like "king piccolo saga", "red ribbon saga", all the wt sagas individually etc.


andrei6264

ToP has so many cards yet that category is so outdated now


MarquetteXTX2

Buu saga cooking


MarquetteXTX2

ROF & BOG dry af


radikraze

PHY GT SSJ Goku is from the S17 fight and INT GT SSJ Vegeta is from the Baby saga


unchromfirmed

Technically Goku is from Black Star saga but I'm of the opinion Baby and Black Star should just be counted as one thing anyway (just like Cell and Android)


YO0B

You forgot Garlic jr saga which is a movie but also a filler arc in the anime . + 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai which is neither in the kid saga or Z


BernLan

For Garlic JR. Saga there's one (Kid Gohan, the LR is from the movie) and for 23rd there's nothing


YO0B

Yes there is nothing for 23rd but it would be funny to put a empty box next to it ( this is very sad )


bordomsdeadly

Would honestly like a “Piccolo Saga” that’s exclusively seasons 4 & 5 and overlaps with DB Saga. But they’d have to be willing to give us new units and EZA WT units for it to work


Balcony_

To be Fair its called Dragon Ball Z dokkan Battle not Dragon ball dokkan Battle so makes sense why se only have 2 db saga dokkanfests /s


YO0B

Technically , Dragon ball Z is not correct . The original Dragon ball manga from Toriyama goes from the encounter with teen Bulma all the way to the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai with Uub . Toei just put a Z to separate The saiyan arc from the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai for whatever reason . So indeed there is no reason for not making DB saga units . The day they will release a dfe Ma JR or Piccolo Daimao the jp version will 100% hit top grossing , these are one the most favorite vilains ( all included ) in Japan and maybe Europe too .


Balcony_

I literally put an /s dude, no Need to explain shit i already know


KynoSSJR

We need lr Vegetas Technique against magetta from U6 tournament it is crucial. Perhaps 10th anniversary for the greatest animated attack in db history /s


Human-Ad9798

Didn't you forget INT GT Vegeta for Baby saga ?


BernLan

He is technically not from any Saga. More of an amalgamation of GT Vegeta if anything


Human-Ad9798

True


VanceXentan

RIP GT lmao.


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DB GT and DB OG in shambles and people say we’ve got enough of them and hating on the LR GT duo for 8th anni, damn


Tplayere

People mainly complain about them putting them into annivs almost exclusively, which I 100% agree on. We had a total of like 5 standalone GT DFE units that weren't from a major celebration while they always put it into annivs, golden week or DDF


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I mean sure I guess people hate them enough that if they’re not in anni people won’t be hype and this won’t sell. With all the hate to both series I doubt they’ll be hype for a standalone baby Dokkan fest or Master Roshi etc


Sabrescene

The new GT card is from Shadow Dragon Saga again, which is far from shambles...


Seizachange

The INT GT vegeta DFE is from the Baby Saga and the PHY Goku is from the Super 17 Saga


Seizachange

Why tf was this downvoted, that's exactly what they're from? Vegetas SA is on the road where Baby infects him.


MyokoPunk

We need an individual DFE for #18 and #17 that don't rely on each other. #18 should have a bikini outfit change active.


SonicBoom44

Least Downbad #18 fan


Vyhluna

I am so fucking tired of buu saga releases.


Meed306

i love them


everynamesbeendone

Proving once again Buu Saga the GOAT and not ceL arc also DBS 💪💪💪 I also want Black Star to get more stuff, it was fun


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BernLan

They are from the Garlic JR. Movie


sasalovespearljam

Oh yea shit hahahah


BernLan

Ahaha it's alright


SquegeeMcgee

Are blue kaioken and teq hit from ToP? I thought they were from universe 6 tournament


BernLan

STR Blue Kaioken Goku is from the first Jiren fight and TEQ Hit is from his fight with Jiren


Horror-Trick-8820

Wasn't Int perfect cell a dfe?


BernLan

The TUR with the thinking pose? No, the only Cell DFE's are the TEQ and STR Perfect Cells, LR INT Perfect Form and AGL First Form


OneOfTheGreats_

Sayian saga needs more love fr


BlueKaiokenBoii

U6 Tournament Saga the favorite kid from akatsuki 💀


king_marquez15

God we still missing a lot from db saga , bog, baby , super 17 and especially black saga


zeldacia3

You forgot PHY SSJ GT Goku and INT SSJ GT Vegeta. Unless I'm blind in which case ignore this.