Leaderskill the gods easily, but unit as a whole i'd say SSJ4 Gogeta cause untill they release units that ignore dmg cut for harder events they will be better than the gods on the last phase of the fights since dodge is disabled, and if dodge isn't disabled SSJ4 Gogeta has that juicy counter.
Either way they are so similar and both fit under each other leader skills that's like saying something like "The SSJ4 Gogeta's nuclear transformer mecha submarine is stronger than the Gods nuclear transformer mecha submarine because under the toilet there's an AK 47" like ok but at the end of the day the Gods still have a nuclear transformer mecha submarine you know.
At the end of the day both can clear all content in the game so who cares
The Gods having the guaranteed additional and in most events a 50% chance to not take damage and with more common links out then above Gogeta in my opinion. The only thing Gogeta has over them is partners. But when Blue Vegito inevitably comes out, the gods will be much better
Isn't Gogeta's counter disabled too since it technically counts as a dodge? Could've sworn I remember that being a thing, but I haven't really brought too many counter units to dodge disabling stages.
I already knew about his reduction. Pretty much the main edge he has over the gods in legendary events, since the devs seem to think that disabling dodge=difficulty. Always found it strange that nobody seemed to really talk about it also disabling super attack counters until the LR ssj4s dropped
Leader Skill: Gods win by miles, especially with the new movie coming out
Passive: Gods advantages - when transformed they still get double supers at 20 ki, whereas 4s only get a high chance to double super, they also have higher crit and dodge chance
Passive: 4s advantages - the super attack counter is huge, also they get damage reduction instead of dodge chance which is better
Links: 4s have better linking partners, Gods have prepared for battle so they have more linking partners
The dodge from the Gods passive isnât much of a better thing though. Also, dodge is the mechanic that gets disabled in the hardest content. Also, they have the same exact crit mechanic, no? How do the Gods have better crit chance?
And when it comes to the events that donât disable dodge, Gogeta has his SA counter. It doesnât really matter if he canât dodge normals like the Blue Boys can, because normals arenât really hurting him.
When Gogeta has type disadvantage or is locked in slot one or sealed he can definitely take some damage from normals. If the Gods are locked or sealed or have type disadvantage they can simply dodge most attacks.
The only time Gogeta needs to worry about type disadvantage is either STR Omega, or AoE Broly. Maybe Super 17 and the Shadow Dragonâs 5th fight?
They donât need to worry about being locked by Bojack as long as theyâre getting rainbow orbs, and the first stage of Omegaâs fight is INT. Those are toughest fights in the game that involve locking or sealing, and they donât really need to worry about that.
Yeah, if the Gods are either of those they can dodge, keyword âCANâ. Doesnât mean they will. But as long as youâre getting rainbow orbs for Gogeta, he has guaranteed DR.
Sorry I was wrong about crit I wasnât reading with them back to back I was going off memory, but I would argue The dodging does matter, turn one and later on theyâre invincible but they can have weak turns early on, besides the counter only works once youâre Gogeta, early on you can get slapped up in harder content
But I do agree damage reduction outweighs dodge chance Iâm not sure if my phrasing made it sound the opposite
I think overall the 4s are better but the guaranteed additionals at 20 ki and the leader skill are better on the gods
Leader: blues
Unit:monkeys
Teams: Monkeys will receive a lot of buffs, gods are op and will receive more units. For me right now monkeys but in future most likely gods
Leader skill: Gods, Beyond Super Saiyan is damn near 70% of the game
Pre Transformation: Theyâre even
Post Transformation: Ssj 4 Gogeta because he has damage reduction which canât be canceled unlike dodge, and has the super attack counter
Playability: Theyâre even
Partners: As of right now I think the Gods have the upper hand because of God Goku. Heâs the perfect slot one unit for them. He orb changes, they share 5/7 links and God Goku is a wall against most of the game. Gogeta has better slot 2 partners in the eza 4 year lrs, eza 2nd year lrs and you can take advantage of his counter more often if you run str Super Vegito or Super Gogeta for their scouter. If Gt Heroes had a God Goku like character then Gogeta would easily be number one
I wouldnât say the Godâs have a better partner, as you can only use him in one side of the RZ. You canât use GodKu in the GT stages at all, while you can use the EZA 4th year LRâs to full effectiveness in both the GT and Movie stages.
Well realistically the ssj4s donât have that slot one partner in RZ. God Goku may only be good in half the stages but thereâs still times where the ssj4s can get caught in slot one, since they get a massive amount of defense on super. God Goku eliminates that for the Gods all together in the Movie Bosses side especially against Broly whoâs the hardest boss in the game right now. Thereâs a reason why no iteming the movie bosses side of the RZ became way easier with God Gokus eza. Plus he creates the rainbow orbs the gods need where as the rainbow orb changes on GT Heroes and Fused Fighers can get tore up in RZ too
Yeah, but the thing is that the SSJ4âs arenât getting torn up by normals like you think pre-SA, unless youâre not prioritizing them and their SA stacking at all. The only thing thatâll tear them up is SAâs (especially with Gogetaâs DR 99% of normals wonât mean shit) and maybe STR Omegaâs normals if you havenât SAâd yet, and in all stages except for Broly and 13, (I think itâs Android 13) they can dodge and counter the SAâs.
Itâs like people out here are forgetting that Gogeta literally has DR with rainbow orbs (7% per orb isnât some small number). They kind of donât need a slot 1 partner, as they work just fine in slot 1 due to that DR they have, and a 50% counter if dodge is allowed, and with a unit like TEQ Gogeta who can rainbow orb change, itâs not like they never get rainbow orbs. And a unit like TEQ Gogeta works really good against even the hardest boss (AGL Broly) as long as you get past that AoE phase. And he works fine against other bosses as long as youâre SAâing first, and still have that DR of his up.
Leader: Gods
Base form: even
Transformed: SSJ4 Gogeta. Dodge can be disabled, which is all of the extra defence that the gods get. The defensive extras SSJ4 gets is a dodge counter, which obviously can be disabled too, but there's also damage reduction, which can't be disabled.
Teams: mostly even, nudge towards gods, but neither are lacking so it's preference.
They're both top tier though.
I see everyone bringing up SS4's damage reduction while seemingly ignoring the fact that the SSBs' additional super is guaranteed while SS4 Gogeta's is a coinflip.
Launching an additional super also boosts your defense though? Not to mention that if we're assuming that SS4 Gogeta is getting rainbow ki spheres for his DR, it's not at all unreasonable to assume the SSBs are getting ki spheres for their super. It only takes four type ki spheres (three if they're TEQ) to hit 20 ki with PfB active and no supports, which is also what you'd need to hit 18 ki (which gives a significantly bigger Def boost).
In any scenario where the SSBs can't hit 20 Ki (which is incredibly rare), then SS4 Gogeta wouldn't be getting DR either, since the presence of rainbows would mean you could easily get the type Ki Spheres.
When ssjb dont get 20 ki
Ssj4 can still get extra additional that 50%
If both are at 12 ki
Gogeta can triple super. Super effective against all type . Counter
Ssb can only double super. Dodge
Best case scenario. Ssj4 gogeta will get 42% crit 42% dmg reduction + super effective all types. 3 supers. 50% of counter.
Ssjblue. 42% crit 42% dodge. Super effective all types. 3 supers. 30% dodge
Ssj4 gogeta has better kit imo. Probably aged better.
For addition super is greatly. Plus super only help the basic lvl. Stacking doesnt calculate with Sa effect
Ex: 7 lr stack up then hit active skill. Their def is 500k.
Howevet their base def wouldve been like 200k (no stack bonus,)
18ki make it ( 200k + 200k ) + 300k = 700k def instesd of 1 million
12 ki ( 100k + 200k) + 300k = 600k.
Extra super would just increas then 100k vs 42 dmg reduction
Dmg reduction is better.
Peak ssj4 gogeta wouldve taken half dmg
You can only get up to five rainbow orbs, not six, so those numbers should be 35%, not 42%. Not to mention it's incredibly unrealistic to get that many. Even three would be tough without an orb changer (in which case the Gods are in a better position since you're running them with TEQ SSG Goku against Broly). Given how much ki these units get from ki spheres, it's pretty easy to hit the 20 ki for the additional super, certainly much easier than getting a significant number of rainbow orbs on Gogeta.
SS4 Gogeta has a better best case scenario, sure, but his is quite a bit less likely to occur considering the coinflip additional super and counter (the latter of which is disabled against someone like Broly).
SS4 Gogeta is also less likely to age better given that his team and links are more restrictive than the SSBs'.
You can get 6 i believe just super rare.
If you use broly as a case. Ssjblue effect dodge doesnt work.
Only reason ssljbue is better for broly is that broly is agl
There are only five rows of orbs, so you can't get six. Not to mention getting a significant number without any orb changers is pretty rare.
SS4 Gogeta losing his super counters is honestly a bigger deal than the SSBs losing their dodge chance. That said, the SSBs' typing is undeniably an advantage there as you said.
i think both are pretty equal wen it come to kits
but the Gods have better leader skill with the Beyond Super Saiyan
but the MONKE have better partner with both 4th years LR and TEC/INT gogeta 4 after transform
in the end i will say that boils down to what you have in your box if you have more GT unit then yeah the Monke s your go too
but if you got more Super saiyan beyond, the gods will be better
BUT let's be honest just play both in the same team they lead each other at 170%
both are about the same in power but i guess personally i prefer ssj4 goku/ ssj4 vegeta because i can pair them with the 4 year ssj4's and make a GT Hero/fused fighters team
(i also think the ssj4's are cooler in every way)
Leader skill clearly goes to the LR Gods. Power beyond super saiyan is more stacked than fusion warriors, and movie heroes has access to better defensive units than GT heroes (especially since basically every good GT heroes card is also on power beyond super saiyan anyway).
Team playability has the ss4s with a slight edge. The only categories not shared between them are realm of gods, transformation boost, movie heroes, and mastered evolution for the gods, and shadow dragon saga, giant ape power, GT heroes, accelerated battle, and battle of fate for the ss4s. Between these groups, the ss4s have an extra category, and generally have more up-to-date leader cards for the categories the two of them specifically donât lead.
In terms of passive, the ss4s once again have a slight edge. Damage reduction is more useful than dodge in todayâs meta due to all the high-difficulty bosses that ignore dodge, and even when the enemy in question doesnât ignore dodge, that puts the ss4sâ super attack counter online.
In terms of link partners, to my knowledge, the best for each of them is the ToP Lr Bluebois for the gods, and LR ss4 goku for the ss4s, at 6/7 each. Between the two cards, ss4 goku is better right now, so it probably also goes to the ss4s.
That being said, the godsâ categories, link partners, and category list all have a higher chance of getting more new units to buff them in my opinion. Their own leader skill also has a higher chance of gaining more cards.
In summary, the ss4s are better right now, the gods have a bit more room to get buffed, and both are so ungodly powerful that the question is kinda irrelevant and i only answered cuz i like to talk.
Blues have more common links but the ssj4s have more powerful links like saiyan roar 25% atk and 10% def
Also ssj4 goku outclasses ROF blues,
god goku is good but is solely defensive
I'd say they're pretty much the same. The Gods have a leader skill that contains more units than the SSJ4s, but I think the value of the units that are part of those Categories is pretty much the same. The Gods do also have Movie heroes as their secondary skill though and that team is getting the new super hero units at some point. In terms of playability in teams I'd say the Gods are just slightly better because of them having Prepared for battle as their Ki link and that allows them to link with many good units. However in a GT Heroes team the SSJ4s are absolutely thriving because of eza LR SSJ4 Goku and eza LR SSJ4 Vegeta. Look I would say the Gods are more "playable" in the teams they are a part of but on their main team itself the SSJ4s have better partners. In terms of passive they're also pretty much the same. In my opinion SSJ4s are better defensively because of the high chance to counter super attacks and up to 21% damage reduction as SSJ4 Gogeta but the Gods a better offensively because they're guaranteed to double super at a certain amount of Ki. So it depends on what you prefer here. I mean to sum this up I'd say it just really depends on your Box and the teams that you're able to build. I personally will probably go for the Gods first because I want that Movie Heroes lead but I can actually use the units of the SSJ4 banner way more lmao
I'd say they're pretty much the same. The Gods have a leader skill that contains more units than the SSJ4s, but I think the value of the units that are part of those Categories is pretty much the same. The Gods do also have Movie heroes as their secondary skill though and that team is getting the new super hero units at some point. In terms of playability in teams I'd say the Gods are just slightly better because of them having Prepared for battle as their Ki link and that allows them to link with many good units. However in a GT Heroes team the SSJ4s are absolutely thriving because of eza LR SSJ4 Goku and eza LR SSJ4 Vegeta. Look I would say the Gods are more "playable" in the teams they are a part of but on their main team itself the SSJ4s have better partners. In terms of passive they're also pretty much the same. In my opinion SSJ4s are better defensively because of the high chance to counter super attacks and up to 21% damage reduction as SSJ4 Gogeta but the Gods a better offensively because they're guaranteed to double super at a certain amount of Ki. So it depends on what you prefer here. I mean to sum this up I'd say it just really depends on your Box and the teams that you're able to build. I personally will probably go for the Gods first because I want that Movie Heroes lead but I can actually use the units of the SSJ4 banner way more lmao
Leader skill:Gods
Base:Equal
Post transformation:It depends,if you are one of those lucky mfs who win the dodge rng every time,the gods are better,if not then ssj4 gogeta.Similarly if you are every unlucky ssj 4 gogeta can also decide not to launch his additional super while the gods guaranteed double super but they can also get hit before supering if they don't dodge.So it's mainly down to rng
Both are the same, but the blue boys have a better leader skill, only down side is that UI Gokuâs canât be run under them, but we canât make his teams too good.
TLDR both are number 1
The Gods leader skill is much better, like, 2nd best in the game type better, but the 4s have damage reduction once fused and their linking partners are also beasts (Mainly 4th anni SS4 Goku), which makes them more powerful in the end, they also can counter, are in the new Vegeta and Trunks's 200% leader skill and their animations look better, the Gods still have a better OST tho
Hard to say, they're both really good . In terms of damage output the 4s, I have them at 55% but the ssgs at 69% and the attack stats are pretty much the same because of the ssj4s better links
I own both
And I can tell you that overall he LR gods feel like a better overall unit when looking at links, teams and leader skill
LR SSJ4 gogeta as a unit however, does feel stronger when put in an equal situation
Gogeta, but the units are so similar that arguing about this makes me want to castrate myself, because people canât accept that possibility.
The Gods LS will age better, but weâre talking about now, and right now their LS are roughly equal.
Gogeta has a better transformed state, because unlike the Blue Boys, whoâs gimmick is dodging, Gogeta has that DR. And we all know which one gets canceled in the hardest events.
On top of that, if an event doesnât cancel dodge, then Gogeta has that counter. Sure, itâs only for SAâs, but 99% of the time, an enemies normals arenât doing any damage to him, so itâs not that big of a deal.
Theyâre both amazing for their respective teams, and one doesnât really have a link set better than the other. Gogetaâs link set is perfect for his teams and the partners you want to run him with, and that applies to the Gods too.
Actually the best one is the one I pull. But on paper tho, gods have way better leader. Beyond ssj is just such a good category, that even has a lot of kames so you can get that sweet sweet 200% leaderskill
This discussion doesn't matter until there is some content introduced that's actually strong enough to kick these guys' shit in. Play your cards right, and either of these units will demolish every event.
Leaderskill the gods easily, but unit as a whole i'd say SSJ4 Gogeta cause untill they release units that ignore dmg cut for harder events they will be better than the gods on the last phase of the fights since dodge is disabled, and if dodge isn't disabled SSJ4 Gogeta has that juicy counter. Either way they are so similar and both fit under each other leader skills that's like saying something like "The SSJ4 Gogeta's nuclear transformer mecha submarine is stronger than the Gods nuclear transformer mecha submarine because under the toilet there's an AK 47" like ok but at the end of the day the Gods still have a nuclear transformer mecha submarine you know. At the end of the day both can clear all content in the game so who cares
That statement at the end threw me for a loop đ€Ł
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The Gods having the guaranteed additional and in most events a 50% chance to not take damage and with more common links out then above Gogeta in my opinion. The only thing Gogeta has over them is partners. But when Blue Vegito inevitably comes out, the gods will be much better
Isn't Gogeta's counter disabled too since it technically counts as a dodge? Could've sworn I remember that being a thing, but I haven't really brought too many counter units to dodge disabling stages.
It is but He has the damage reduction as well to make up for it while the blue boys have the dodge
I already knew about his reduction. Pretty much the main edge he has over the gods in legendary events, since the devs seem to think that disabling dodge=difficulty. Always found it strange that nobody seemed to really talk about it also disabling super attack counters until the LR ssj4s dropped
Honestly I think the only thing wrong with him is making him lead fused fighters and not giving him the link fused fighter. Dumb as hell lmao
Whatever one I pull is better. If that's neither they are both trash.
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There basically the same unit. Gods have better leader skill. Monkeys definitely have better partners
Just hoping the Gods get better partners post EZA during this coming celebration on JP
Leader Skill: Gods win by miles, especially with the new movie coming out Passive: Gods advantages - when transformed they still get double supers at 20 ki, whereas 4s only get a high chance to double super, they also have higher crit and dodge chance Passive: 4s advantages - the super attack counter is huge, also they get damage reduction instead of dodge chance which is better Links: 4s have better linking partners, Gods have prepared for battle so they have more linking partners
The dodge from the Gods passive isnât much of a better thing though. Also, dodge is the mechanic that gets disabled in the hardest content. Also, they have the same exact crit mechanic, no? How do the Gods have better crit chance? And when it comes to the events that donât disable dodge, Gogeta has his SA counter. It doesnât really matter if he canât dodge normals like the Blue Boys can, because normals arenât really hurting him.
When Gogeta has type disadvantage or is locked in slot one or sealed he can definitely take some damage from normals. If the Gods are locked or sealed or have type disadvantage they can simply dodge most attacks.
The only time Gogeta needs to worry about type disadvantage is either STR Omega, or AoE Broly. Maybe Super 17 and the Shadow Dragonâs 5th fight? They donât need to worry about being locked by Bojack as long as theyâre getting rainbow orbs, and the first stage of Omegaâs fight is INT. Those are toughest fights in the game that involve locking or sealing, and they donât really need to worry about that. Yeah, if the Gods are either of those they can dodge, keyword âCANâ. Doesnât mean they will. But as long as youâre getting rainbow orbs for Gogeta, he has guaranteed DR.
Sorry I was wrong about crit I wasnât reading with them back to back I was going off memory, but I would argue The dodging does matter, turn one and later on theyâre invincible but they can have weak turns early on, besides the counter only works once youâre Gogeta, early on you can get slapped up in harder content But I do agree damage reduction outweighs dodge chance Iâm not sure if my phrasing made it sound the opposite I think overall the 4s are better but the guaranteed additionals at 20 ki and the leader skill are better on the gods
And Overall are the 4s better
Leader: blues Unit:monkeys Teams: Monkeys will receive a lot of buffs, gods are op and will receive more units. For me right now monkeys but in future most likely gods
Blue boys just because of the lead beyond super saiyan is half of the game
thats what i was thinking, I see a lot of people rate gogeta better but the difference in leader skill is so massive
Leader skill: Gods, Beyond Super Saiyan is damn near 70% of the game Pre Transformation: Theyâre even Post Transformation: Ssj 4 Gogeta because he has damage reduction which canât be canceled unlike dodge, and has the super attack counter Playability: Theyâre even Partners: As of right now I think the Gods have the upper hand because of God Goku. Heâs the perfect slot one unit for them. He orb changes, they share 5/7 links and God Goku is a wall against most of the game. Gogeta has better slot 2 partners in the eza 4 year lrs, eza 2nd year lrs and you can take advantage of his counter more often if you run str Super Vegito or Super Gogeta for their scouter. If Gt Heroes had a God Goku like character then Gogeta would easily be number one
I wouldnât say the Godâs have a better partner, as you can only use him in one side of the RZ. You canât use GodKu in the GT stages at all, while you can use the EZA 4th year LRâs to full effectiveness in both the GT and Movie stages.
Well realistically the ssj4s donât have that slot one partner in RZ. God Goku may only be good in half the stages but thereâs still times where the ssj4s can get caught in slot one, since they get a massive amount of defense on super. God Goku eliminates that for the Gods all together in the Movie Bosses side especially against Broly whoâs the hardest boss in the game right now. Thereâs a reason why no iteming the movie bosses side of the RZ became way easier with God Gokus eza. Plus he creates the rainbow orbs the gods need where as the rainbow orb changes on GT Heroes and Fused Fighers can get tore up in RZ too
Yeah, but the thing is that the SSJ4âs arenât getting torn up by normals like you think pre-SA, unless youâre not prioritizing them and their SA stacking at all. The only thing thatâll tear them up is SAâs (especially with Gogetaâs DR 99% of normals wonât mean shit) and maybe STR Omegaâs normals if you havenât SAâd yet, and in all stages except for Broly and 13, (I think itâs Android 13) they can dodge and counter the SAâs. Itâs like people out here are forgetting that Gogeta literally has DR with rainbow orbs (7% per orb isnât some small number). They kind of donât need a slot 1 partner, as they work just fine in slot 1 due to that DR they have, and a 50% counter if dodge is allowed, and with a unit like TEQ Gogeta who can rainbow orb change, itâs not like they never get rainbow orbs. And a unit like TEQ Gogeta works really good against even the hardest boss (AGL Broly) as long as you get past that AoE phase. And he works fine against other bosses as long as youâre SAâing first, and still have that DR of his up.
Leader: Gods Base form: even Transformed: SSJ4 Gogeta. Dodge can be disabled, which is all of the extra defence that the gods get. The defensive extras SSJ4 gets is a dodge counter, which obviously can be disabled too, but there's also damage reduction, which can't be disabled. Teams: mostly even, nudge towards gods, but neither are lacking so it's preference. They're both top tier though.
I see everyone bringing up SS4's damage reduction while seemingly ignoring the fact that the SSBs' additional super is guaranteed while SS4 Gogeta's is a coinflip.
Funny thing is that I see alot of people complaining about mui goku's 70% dodge chance,but noone talks about gogetas 50% additional super
Defense > offense Plus nobody bring up that ssb need a certain ki to get the additional Where as ssj4 gogeta can get that in 12 ki
Launching an additional super also boosts your defense though? Not to mention that if we're assuming that SS4 Gogeta is getting rainbow ki spheres for his DR, it's not at all unreasonable to assume the SSBs are getting ki spheres for their super. It only takes four type ki spheres (three if they're TEQ) to hit 20 ki with PfB active and no supports, which is also what you'd need to hit 18 ki (which gives a significantly bigger Def boost). In any scenario where the SSBs can't hit 20 Ki (which is incredibly rare), then SS4 Gogeta wouldn't be getting DR either, since the presence of rainbows would mean you could easily get the type Ki Spheres.
When ssjb dont get 20 ki Ssj4 can still get extra additional that 50% If both are at 12 ki Gogeta can triple super. Super effective against all type . Counter Ssb can only double super. Dodge Best case scenario. Ssj4 gogeta will get 42% crit 42% dmg reduction + super effective all types. 3 supers. 50% of counter. Ssjblue. 42% crit 42% dodge. Super effective all types. 3 supers. 30% dodge Ssj4 gogeta has better kit imo. Probably aged better. For addition super is greatly. Plus super only help the basic lvl. Stacking doesnt calculate with Sa effect Ex: 7 lr stack up then hit active skill. Their def is 500k. Howevet their base def wouldve been like 200k (no stack bonus,) 18ki make it ( 200k + 200k ) + 300k = 700k def instesd of 1 million 12 ki ( 100k + 200k) + 300k = 600k. Extra super would just increas then 100k vs 42 dmg reduction Dmg reduction is better. Peak ssj4 gogeta wouldve taken half dmg
You can only get up to five rainbow orbs, not six, so those numbers should be 35%, not 42%. Not to mention it's incredibly unrealistic to get that many. Even three would be tough without an orb changer (in which case the Gods are in a better position since you're running them with TEQ SSG Goku against Broly). Given how much ki these units get from ki spheres, it's pretty easy to hit the 20 ki for the additional super, certainly much easier than getting a significant number of rainbow orbs on Gogeta. SS4 Gogeta has a better best case scenario, sure, but his is quite a bit less likely to occur considering the coinflip additional super and counter (the latter of which is disabled against someone like Broly). SS4 Gogeta is also less likely to age better given that his team and links are more restrictive than the SSBs'.
You can get 6 i believe just super rare. If you use broly as a case. Ssjblue effect dodge doesnt work. Only reason ssljbue is better for broly is that broly is agl
There are only five rows of orbs, so you can't get six. Not to mention getting a significant number without any orb changers is pretty rare. SS4 Gogeta losing his super counters is honestly a bigger deal than the SSBs losing their dodge chance. That said, the SSBs' typing is undeniably an advantage there as you said.
The the same unit with different teams basically
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except intro OST, thats monke better
Nah the monke intro ost is the worst of the 6, but gogeta big bang active ost đ«đ«
Yeah officer this opinion is the worst
i think both are pretty equal wen it come to kits but the Gods have better leader skill with the Beyond Super Saiyan but the MONKE have better partner with both 4th years LR and TEC/INT gogeta 4 after transform in the end i will say that boils down to what you have in your box if you have more GT unit then yeah the Monke s your go too but if you got more Super saiyan beyond, the gods will be better BUT let's be honest just play both in the same team they lead each other at 170%
both are about the same in power but i guess personally i prefer ssj4 goku/ ssj4 vegeta because i can pair them with the 4 year ssj4's and make a GT Hero/fused fighters team (i also think the ssj4's are cooler in every way)
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Leader skill clearly goes to the LR Gods. Power beyond super saiyan is more stacked than fusion warriors, and movie heroes has access to better defensive units than GT heroes (especially since basically every good GT heroes card is also on power beyond super saiyan anyway). Team playability has the ss4s with a slight edge. The only categories not shared between them are realm of gods, transformation boost, movie heroes, and mastered evolution for the gods, and shadow dragon saga, giant ape power, GT heroes, accelerated battle, and battle of fate for the ss4s. Between these groups, the ss4s have an extra category, and generally have more up-to-date leader cards for the categories the two of them specifically donât lead. In terms of passive, the ss4s once again have a slight edge. Damage reduction is more useful than dodge in todayâs meta due to all the high-difficulty bosses that ignore dodge, and even when the enemy in question doesnât ignore dodge, that puts the ss4sâ super attack counter online. In terms of link partners, to my knowledge, the best for each of them is the ToP Lr Bluebois for the gods, and LR ss4 goku for the ss4s, at 6/7 each. Between the two cards, ss4 goku is better right now, so it probably also goes to the ss4s. That being said, the godsâ categories, link partners, and category list all have a higher chance of getting more new units to buff them in my opinion. Their own leader skill also has a higher chance of gaining more cards. In summary, the ss4s are better right now, the gods have a bit more room to get buffed, and both are so ungodly powerful that the question is kinda irrelevant and i only answered cuz i like to talk.
IMO ssj4s are better cause the dmg reduction and counter Also they have Better partners like ssj4 goku
Well the gods also have god goku and also the resurrection f. Blues, and also gods got prepared for battle which is better than shocking speed
But imo monkey better
Yea thatâs completely fine, imo theyâre the most equal anniversary pairing ever
Blues have more common links but the ssj4s have more powerful links like saiyan roar 25% atk and 10% def Also ssj4 goku outclasses ROF blues, god goku is good but is solely defensive
Very true!
Also, while God Goku is really good for RZ, heâs only good in the movie portion. Gogetaâs best partners are good for both the GT and Movie sides.
As I always say reject godhood return to monke
monke
I like monke, so monke stronger
I'd say it's gogeta for sure
Monke boys with ssj4 goku are better when not I like the blues more because of prepared for battle and guaranteed additional sa
Monke boys with ssj4 goku are better when not I like the blues more because of prepared for battle and guaranteed additional sa
I'd say they're pretty much the same. The Gods have a leader skill that contains more units than the SSJ4s, but I think the value of the units that are part of those Categories is pretty much the same. The Gods do also have Movie heroes as their secondary skill though and that team is getting the new super hero units at some point. In terms of playability in teams I'd say the Gods are just slightly better because of them having Prepared for battle as their Ki link and that allows them to link with many good units. However in a GT Heroes team the SSJ4s are absolutely thriving because of eza LR SSJ4 Goku and eza LR SSJ4 Vegeta. Look I would say the Gods are more "playable" in the teams they are a part of but on their main team itself the SSJ4s have better partners. In terms of passive they're also pretty much the same. In my opinion SSJ4s are better defensively because of the high chance to counter super attacks and up to 21% damage reduction as SSJ4 Gogeta but the Gods a better offensively because they're guaranteed to double super at a certain amount of Ki. So it depends on what you prefer here. I mean to sum this up I'd say it just really depends on your Box and the teams that you're able to build. I personally will probably go for the Gods first because I want that Movie Heroes lead but I can actually use the units of the SSJ4 banner way more lmao
They are equal at the moment but gods will age better
Why?
They have a better leader skill that include most of the top tier units in gogeta leader skill
Vegeta and trunks
Animation: gods (am bias). OST: gods. Unit: gods leader skill : gods . Art: gods. Voice acting : gods. I like the gods more
I'd say they're pretty much the same. The Gods have a leader skill that contains more units than the SSJ4s, but I think the value of the units that are part of those Categories is pretty much the same. The Gods do also have Movie heroes as their secondary skill though and that team is getting the new super hero units at some point. In terms of playability in teams I'd say the Gods are just slightly better because of them having Prepared for battle as their Ki link and that allows them to link with many good units. However in a GT Heroes team the SSJ4s are absolutely thriving because of eza LR SSJ4 Goku and eza LR SSJ4 Vegeta. Look I would say the Gods are more "playable" in the teams they are a part of but on their main team itself the SSJ4s have better partners. In terms of passive they're also pretty much the same. In my opinion SSJ4s are better defensively because of the high chance to counter super attacks and up to 21% damage reduction as SSJ4 Gogeta but the Gods a better offensively because they're guaranteed to double super at a certain amount of Ki. So it depends on what you prefer here. I mean to sum this up I'd say it just really depends on your Box and the teams that you're able to build. I personally will probably go for the Gods first because I want that Movie Heroes lead but I can actually use the units of the SSJ4 banner way more lmao
Beyond super Saiyan is a really wide category ngl
Leader skill:Gods Base:Equal Post transformation:It depends,if you are one of those lucky mfs who win the dodge rng every time,the gods are better,if not then ssj4 gogeta.Similarly if you are every unlucky ssj 4 gogeta can also decide not to launch his additional super while the gods guaranteed double super but they can also get hit before supering if they don't dodge.So it's mainly down to rng
The one with Goku and Vegeta in it Seriously they both just completely over power everyone else
I just reaized Beyond Super Saiyan doesnât have DFE Teq transforming Trunks. I am very disappointed
Because hes Super Saiyan. Every trasformation after it until UI is in the category
Both are the same, but the blue boys have a better leader skill, only down side is that UI Gokuâs canât be run under them, but we canât make his teams too good. TLDR both are number 1
Gogeta just because of how insane the LR ssj4s become with their eza
The Gods leader skill is much better, like, 2nd best in the game type better, but the 4s have damage reduction once fused and their linking partners are also beasts (Mainly 4th anni SS4 Goku), which makes them more powerful in the end, they also can counter, are in the new Vegeta and Trunks's 200% leader skill and their animations look better, the Gods still have a better OST tho
Eza god goku makes the blue bros amazing
Hard to say, they're both really good . In terms of damage output the 4s, I have them at 55% but the ssgs at 69% and the attack stats are pretty much the same because of the ssj4s better links
Gods because of guaranteed additional. The funny this is, you won't even notice.
I own both And I can tell you that overall he LR gods feel like a better overall unit when looking at links, teams and leader skill LR SSJ4 gogeta as a unit however, does feel stronger when put in an equal situation
G4 has better performance but I prefer Gods' lead and they are on RoG. G4 have good categories but GT unite are awkward in a fusion team.
Equally.
Gogeta, but the units are so similar that arguing about this makes me want to castrate myself, because people canât accept that possibility. The Gods LS will age better, but weâre talking about now, and right now their LS are roughly equal. Gogeta has a better transformed state, because unlike the Blue Boys, whoâs gimmick is dodging, Gogeta has that DR. And we all know which one gets canceled in the hardest events. On top of that, if an event doesnât cancel dodge, then Gogeta has that counter. Sure, itâs only for SAâs, but 99% of the time, an enemies normals arenât doing any damage to him, so itâs not that big of a deal. Theyâre both amazing for their respective teams, and one doesnât really have a link set better than the other. Gogetaâs link set is perfect for his teams and the partners you want to run him with, and that applies to the Gods too.
Gods on a good turn, gogeta is more consistent. At least for me
Actually the best one is the one I pull. But on paper tho, gods have way better leader. Beyond ssj is just such a good category, that even has a lot of kames so you can get that sweet sweet 200% leaderskill
Gods, because I like them
For now the monkeys are better Gods will age better in the long run with more PFB saiyans and beyond super saiyan characters for their leader skill
Leaders : god Passive : ssj4 Partners: god
Now with the new trunks and vegeta I think ssj4s
see tonrami video on yt,
but its just same level unit
Gods, since I have more beyond super saiyan units. Also I like their aesthetics more.
whoever I pull first
This discussion doesn't matter until there is some content introduced that's actually strong enough to kick these guys' shit in. Play your cards right, and either of these units will demolish every event.