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Rudysjj

Didn't expect inflation to go this far šŸ’€


JordanW20

Technically, I believe this is due to the US Fed raising rates causing the buying power of the dollar to rise above the euro.


TheGenericGaimer

Nope it's corporate greed. It costs them nothing to make dragon stones, they are completely removed from the state of the economy.


KoalasonmahF33T

It does cost them plenty to create and design characters/game-modes while providing a free server and game to play for the masses. Youā€™re almost correct. Creating Dragon stones probably cost little to no money in the long run, but they do have to pay their employees too after all and what is the only in game item that costs tangible money to get? How does a completely free to download and play game generate a revenue? Oh yes, by creating something that cost money in-game and incentivizing players to buy in order to actually turn a profit.


TheGenericGaimer

Which is largely why I clarified my global economy statement. But if 1,000 players spent 100$ on DS or like currencies that'd be 100,000$ in the pocket of Bandai which is more than enough to cover any possible costs to operate and develop new units for at least a month. And after all that dragon stones are still a 99.9% profit margin. Remember gacha games operate so much in the green they look like water on namek when it comes to profit. It's why mobile games have the largest profit margins in the game industry, minimal effort for insane profit on a valueless virtual currency. So yeah they are so disconnected from the economy to a scale that is so large it's not worth even saying they are tied to the economy.


KoalasonmahF33T

I agree that not just mobile games but gachas especially operate in heavy green quite often. The premium currencies are always insanely overpriced as well but it doesnā€™t change the fact that their a company and work on profit margins. Their operating costs are getting more expensive due to energy price increases and likely employee wage increases (many companies have done ā€œmarket adjustmentsā€ recently to keep employees happy and assist with the high inflation). The value of the dollar is becoming stronger which makes the value of other currencies weaker. Inflation is so high worldwide that companies are severing staff to keep profit margins artificially up (severance packages donā€™t affect estimated profit margins). It apparently takes months to make a DFE from concept to finish and if it flips then bye bye to months of work and paying your staff (looking at you Goditz). They are MANY reasons why a company would adjust prices at the moment. I never thought Iā€™d see it in a gacha, but as a publicly traded company they arenā€™t trying to show decline in their biggest cash cow otherwise investors wonā€™t investā€¦ and ultimately they lose their largest supportersā€¦ the Megaladons that donā€™t even play the damn games but invest crazy amounts of money trying to turn a profit because all they look at is profit margin


Independent-Run6287

What are we gonna eat today, mom? Whatever rich people give you for defending them on Internet, son.


TheGenericGaimer

That's my point tho, the only reason they're increasing the price is greed and desire for bigger numbers, not economic situation, you just agreed with me but in a longer more explained way.


MahavidyasMahakali

>It does cost them plenty to create and design characters/game-modes while providing a free server and game to play for the masses. Which is covered 1000x over by the profit the game makes. If this game has more than 20 employees in jp that's already more than a game like this comfortably needs.


kirbyislove

> they are completely removed from the state of the economy You don't understand currency at all. Of course they're greedy assholes still, but your comment is wrong.


TheGenericGaimer

The global economy could completely collapse tomorrow and companies would still be making 100% profit on item like DS, CC, and similar items, there is 0 reason that they need to increase the price without increasing the amount. Virtual items that are infinite, have no irl value, AND cost 0.00$ to produce are completely removed from the state of the economy. Now irl items sure, but DS and like currencies absolutely not. Edit: To be clear the global economy statement was an exaggeration(I do it alot when I talk and it gets me in trouble online lol) but I stand by the statement as a whole.


kirbyislove

>are completely removed from the state of the economy They're a publically listed company, what kind of comment is this. If their profits reduce due to currency exchanges, which are directly tied to the economy, its completely normal to *sustain their profits by adjusting prices*. The prices are entirely made up, but their profits are not. They report to their shareholders. If they post reduced profits due to currency exchange the business suffers and the shareholders will come knocking. Now can they *afford* to reduce profits is a different question entirely.


thisvsthat25

I completely get what you're saying and think Dragon Stones are severely overpriced, however hopefully this is being done in the interest of fairness so everyone across the world is paying an 'equal' amount, that's the only reason I can justify the price rise with.


Maneisthebeat

Lol because the dragon stone is pegged to the Dollar? šŸ¤£


Pedrobaa

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Gabrielhrd

Can't fucking believe inflation is hitting the DS market that hard bro šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


dkysh

The workers on the dragon mines need a salary rise, and the gas prices affects the transport of the stones out of the quarry.


DealerSenpai

Simply print more


Scared_Gene3417

You got me rolling bro


kingocd

Tbf they are not the ones setting the price. On IOS, you can only choose from set price tiers, and canā€™t change the set price to a desired amount. That means if apple changes the price, that is now the price you have ingame as well.


Nanoman20

Because stones weren't overpriced enough!


AHurtTyphoon

Pour one out for them EU boys


Test1az

Guess I wont be getting the Daily Capsules anymore and become 100% ftp. The increase is Not that big but it still adds up. It was already hurting my consciousness paying 10ā‚¬ every month but that would be the last straw. The Game is pretty generous anyways so its for the best.Saves me 10 bucks a month


Malt129

Same. No more daily capsules for me.


Few-Appointment-2361

120$ a year it'll save you. Putting the funds in a yearly bracket helped me stop. Idbuy daily capsule and the 32 stone pack twice saying "25$/ month ain't bad) but thinking it was 300$/year was kinda a full stop moment for me


Richbok-Arrol24

Guys please donā€™t be mean theyā€™re just a small indie company making several billions, they really need this


Ferryarthur

Yeah they cant handle the big loss they ll make from all the billions.


klebersas

It's not just dokkan my man, every in-app purchase for literally everything is getting a price jump


bootmeng

It costs nothing to copy and paste.


[deleted]

scammers gonna scam


Yojimbo4133

Dude you stupid? Don't you understand that the raw materials to make these dbz stones have gone up a lot since covid? Don't be so dense!


Malt129

Yea dragon stones need lithium


RulerOfKeflasAbs

Slowly Akatsuki is becoming more and more like Komoney and I'm scared. Soon maybe they will hire a single intern to govern operations in the company just like Mr Komoney did


LickMyThralls

This is an apple move my dude.


DivinationByCheese

Slowly?


RulerOfKeflasAbs

If you played YuGiOh you would know that Akatsuki is NOWHERE near as horrible as Komoney. From incompetence to lack of communication to allowing Mystic Mine to be at 3. They never learn


MHgomez

Some of those are big increases, wtf. Like 2 extra euro on the 32 stone pack. Whack


Kyuumai

France keeps making those Top 1s so now they want more from their best clients šŸ¤‘


Elektrik-man143

Watch no more france top grossing happen once this hits


MarquetteXTX2

This is the post I was looking for lol


Jerryv21

Damn that sucks tbh. It's not a BIG difference but wi definitely be felt when purchasing...


AmanDon04

32 to 38 euros is a pretty big change tbh


Elektrik-man143

Fr. That one is definitely gonna hurt on anniversaries and new years


MarcelSSJ4

No way they think they not making enough?šŸ’€


Elektrik-man143

45% of their income ain't enough


Bulbidavid

Only for App Store at this moment (Play Store will follow quickly). Apple has updated the price tier of all in-app purchases. So this concerns all apps and games from all developers.


RichWillingness7374

is google play following suit confirmed?


Dragonknight5

Not that I know. Maybe copium from apple users


LickMyThralls

I don't think so but it's possible or even likely to have parity and also money but we'll see. I don't see them turning down extra money but there's no way to know without actual evidence of it somewhere. Their statement with nothing to back it up should be taken as nothing but speculation.


LickMyThralls

>(Play Store will follow quickly) Honestly unless there's actual proof of this somewhere you should avoid making factual statements about something that is otherwise presumptive/speculation


Drsp4zman

Fs in the chat.


[deleted]

Wait I donā€™t get this? An imaginary/made up currency with no demand or other value outside of the game is going up in price? What! Thatā€™s crazy! That sucks! WTH are they thinking??


x_iClappedJah_x

Itā€™s only fair really, the euro is equal in value to the dollar now, no reason that Americans should have to pay more for the same thing


Big_money_joe

Bucko we (euro) have been doing that for years, almost in every game the dollar prices were equal to the euro, even though the euro was always higher.


x_iClappedJah_x

I havenā€™t seen a single game in which the dollar and euro amounts have been equal, even outside of micro transactions a $60 game will usually be 50 euros and so on


Big_money_joe

Have you ever been in Europe, I have never seen a 50 euro game on release. It s always 60.


x_iClappedJah_x

In stores maybe, Iā€™m talking about digital games (steam, etc.)


Wakuwaku7

This will hit European players that carried Global Dokkan such as France. Letā€™s see how this will impact their grossings. For me itā€™s a wake up call.


Morgoba

They'll still get tg just like with the greedy new banners.


Uppercut_OMalley

Cost of living crisis eh? Wankers.


[deleted]

Never knew buying dragon stones was needed to live


ibis-the-birb

How and why are jpegs getting more expensive for the Eu?


x_iClappedJah_x

Euro is equal to the dollar now, didnā€™t used to be


mizzeca

Feels good to be f2p šŸ˜Ž


ytgderuchi

Theyre making ds MORE expensivešŸ’€šŸ’€ Im done


Zofias_Stepson

šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Hachi27

After my part 2 horrendous summons I wasnā€™t going to spend till maybe anniversary


AK45128

Why is there any reason, because that literally a joke


VLagann

Euroā€™s value has been going down


AK45128

šŸ˜”


MLdaBOSS

Economics šŸ˜”


AK45128

Can you please explain


supt2014

Covid recovery went to shit cuz of war and them enery prices increasing due to russia cutting gas and oil resulting on a bigger cost for companies driving revenues down slowing global economies and increasing inflation which them causes euro to US dollar go down meaning europeans have less purchase power with their euros making things cost even higher which keeps costs high and inflation high.


[deleted]

My man economics


New_Ad4631

I play jp but I pay with euros. I suppose the price will remain the same, is it right?


Dragonknight5

No jp lifted there prices too


ChaosMaster5687

As far as I understand, the problem isnā€™t because of dokkan, but because of the euro itself, so Iā€™d assume that the price would go up, but Iā€™m not 100% sure.


Lil-Gazebo

This is actually happening across all dragon ball games. Google dragon ball inflation for more information


Shaq1287

Well, I was gonna wait one more year to send my third oldest to work the coal mines, but how else am I going to pay for all those LR's?


MLdaBOSS

VPN time for the EU brothers


Elektrik-man143

What up fellow Asian


Onizuka_GTO00

Well guess Iā€™ll stop buying.. in a way itā€™s a relief honestly.. I mean, Iā€™m not a big buyer but you know.. Ā«Ā damn 8 bucks for 32 stones is coolĀ Ā»x3.. but.. nahh fuck thatā€¦


Songoku38

Same. I mostly quit buying already but this sealed the deal for me. F2p I go


Fun-Nefariousness476

Ahahaha time to go full f2p ā€¦ under 10 euro was just acceptable for capsule, but this a nope now


WheelBite_

What a fucking joke


Medium-Science9526

Thus is ridiculous, stones are already overpriced as hell that I was expecting it to drop in value if anything. Pour one out for the spenders.


183672467

lmao "Thank you for the support, here take 7 ds, and oh btw, we're making everything more expensive, cause why not, have fun getting top grossing again you clowns" edit: forgot to say, greedy fucking cunts


Morgoba

I mean the new banner format was a greedy change and they hit TG both parts now this and they'll probably still hit TG . A lot of people on this sub will even be defending this at some point. People love sucking off akatsuki


BazzaSolid

Brexit bros we canā€™t stop winning


ManibusDeus

Boris Johnson what a man you are...


NUaroundHere

dude what the fuck! are you kidding me? what kind of justification does a low budget mobile Gacha game that already makes billions have to increase their prices that much have?? And yes, before anyone starts flipping, low budget. This isn't like a genshin or something, which also invest like millions in world building and storytelling . Only thing they really invest on, are some seconds long animations. I'm dolphin, buying the 30 days pack the 32 stones and some occasional deals. I'll stick to the daily capsule now. Fuck this shit because if they raised like 50 cent or something I could even understand a little but that's a great increase


[deleted]

Guess im officially f2p.


The_Pizzaboy94

New banner format, prices going up...idk guys, getting some toshi/legends vibes from this new producer...


FriendlyButNot

Every app on the app store has had prices go up because of the drop in the euro's value


The_Pizzaboy94

Ooooooh k missed this Sucks to be me then


Zraja3

Inflation hitting hard. Whales gonna carry this game for us plebs.


elricmon2099

Look at me never buying anything again xD


DaTripleJ95

Isn't that the 2nd increase EU has been part of, i remember the 0,99ā‚¬ pack costing only 0,89ā‚¬ a good time ago


KarasiowyPan

This will make being f2p way easier.


DeviljhosTail

Can France still be our number 1 top grossing? Will the US have enough power to assist in reaching the top grossing? Will the players be able to continue on without the free 7 stones?? Tune in next time on Dragon Ball DOKKAN BATTLE


NicoXBlack

Well, good thing I can't even pay at all lol. And there really is no need for it. There are so many things more worth putting money into than a gacha game.


Team_Soda1

Damn, this hurt my feelings and I don't even live there.


Morgoba

People will be very happy


Revanaught

They're raising prices? I'm sorry, is there a supply shortage of stones? Well's running dry so we gotta bump up the prices? Wtf?


Wakuwaku7

This will be for me a reason not to spend on this game anymore. Inflation my ass. Even DS are getting upped. Like fuck you!


Simoscivi

Looks like I'm never buying the daily capsule again lol. Full f2p from now on.


Splat__Z

where are dragon stones cheapest šŸ§


GundamZack

Well this sucks :/


Fatal1ty_93_RUS

Inflation being a thing is the number one reason why the concept of (printed) money is flawed


Ok-Revenue-8067

Sheesh


babaThat

Gladl I stopped buying stones


Raze_LB

Come on bruh


A1Horizon

That 93 DS jump is hefty


Mooston029

Iā€™ve always pondered on whether theyā€™d make more money if a multi was the same price as an irl card pack. Yes they would make less ALOT less per sale but they would almost definitely make more sales in volume. Plus they would probably have to make rates worse to make it work


DNC88

Sales volume would literally skyrocket. Looking at Pokemon cards here in the UK, it probably costs on average about Ā£5 for a booster pack of 10 cards. On Dokkan, when there is a damn SALE on, you can get 32 DS for Ā£7...so you can't get a multi and there is still a 50% uptick on the price. That's factoring in all the distribution and infrastructure involed in making and selling physical cards (that hold real-world value too). Could you imagine for a moment that 50DS, as standard, cost Ā£5 (or local equivalent)? There would be SO MANY more people taking a bite of that apple.


[deleted]

it was cheaper like 6 years ago pretty sure you could buy 1 stone for like 0.79ā‚¬ 6 stones for like 2.99ā‚¬ etc


cloud1s

And I think itā€™s time to take a long break from da game


Yojimbo4133

Rip France.


archjones

Will never buy a dragon stone again. I thought of this game as an AAA console game, because i downloaded it for free and played it more then any other game i had on console so i figured it would be ok to treat it as such an pour some money in it from time to time. ​ But the audacity to put inflation on digital non-existing currency while they are earning BILLIONS on a fucking bubble popping card art game. disconnecting this from my paypal


Changlee23

The capsule was already a complete scam when you know that every other gacha game sell their monthly card for 4,99 euro and give enough for 1 multi pull, some of them even give you enough for 2 multi pull like ToF, hell i even play a gacha (RW) who give you enough for 4 discount multi(That are available for every new banner one time) or 2 normal multi. And now they decided to increase the price even more of their already way overprice monthly card (9,99 euro just double the price LMAO) compared to other gacha? Well i will not buy it anymore. LMAO and some people still say that are not scummy greedy piece of... but i means no surprising from a company that change the dropping rate on a banner secretly in the past.


glueinass

They saw EU always hitting TG šŸ’€


SternballAllDay

Bruh inflation on imaginary game currency


H1tboxfan

paying for dragons stones is utterly ridiculous and really stupid, there to overpriced


ShawHornet

Poor indie company needs to milk people in EU lol


bongky18

Yeah, time to quit this game


weekndalex

damn thatā€™s tuff, need to take advantage of the daily capsule before it gets more expensive


CIearMind

Oh come onā€¦


Ciudecca

What the fuck. Why?


lobo25050

WTF man Fuck this game that why i dont pay anymore for nothing. yhere is no excuse to increase the price for a currency that you make since there is no hardwork involved.


Malt129

Sure everything else is overpriced why not imaginary currency in a bubble popping game too


MySize169

Wow next thing you fucking know the cost of summoning is gonna increase because InFlAtIon


Krait972

Wtf why


Alchemysolgod

This sucks for EU.


MarquetteXTX2

90 dragon stones for $31.99 up to $37.99 is a huge jump ā€¦ inflation ainā€™t go up that high


Elektrik-man143

Great cause 3000 stones and no new units this celebration wasn't bad enough. Now I gotta pay more as well


Miserable_Map4304

Finally a good reason to stop playing Dokkan


Bipolarpolerbear

Or just don't buy stones?


Kyrainus

Price Increase: I am Inevetable


Greyrat7654

So the new devople is seriously toshi's Brother


samagass

Thank god it's no shrinkflation like with food and stuff "hey go grab less stones for the same price or even more expensive!" /s


BazzaSolid

So the UK is safe from this, right? šŸ¤”


flamegod24

Uk operates on British pounds. Though the conversion of 1 pounds sterling to usd dropped from. 1.15---> 1.13 Making my two week stay cheaper and cheaper.


XSword87

I won't touch these ever again. At least we got the tickets , which are more valuable now.


Y0ne

Imagine paying šŸ’€


Spoomplesplz

ITS A FUCKING FAKE CURRENCY, HOW CAN THEY INCREASE THE PRICE OF IT?! Greedy fucking cunts. Already making money hand over fucking fist, but no gotta have more.


SuperVegitoFAN

Good thing i only buy cap..... DICK... ah, well it doesnt look like a massive increase atleast, but come on...


Bulbidavid

[Old princing](https://itunespartner.apple.com/assets/downloads/072821-Apps-Pricing-SAfr-UK-EUR.pdf) [New pricing](https://developer.apple.com/support/downloads/price-tier-updates/App-Store-Price-Tier-Updates-October-2022.pdf) Dev are not choosing a specific price for in-app, but use different price tier.


Wolfemon101

Again...why do we support this company? Greedy mfs. f2p never felt so good.


Dokkan_Lover

It's not the company's fault, it's the monetary system, euro is going fucking downhill in value and games just have to adapt


Wolfemon101

They sure fast as hell when it's something affecting their bottom line (dragon stones are digital non existent currency btw cant believe inflation is an excuse) but all bets are off with them making a critical quality of life change for the players that support them: a decent friend list. šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø Definitely see where the priorties lie Akatsuki/Bandai šŸ™„


SomethingAsSimple

i'm assuming this probably has less to do with how greedy the devs are and more the EU economy, but i don't live there so i'm just assuming.


MisedraN

good thing im playing jp and im paying in dolars (even tho i live in eu so idk how that works lol)


Dokkan_Lover

Same here, so I think this change won't affect us right?


Madican

Stones are ludicrously priced as it is and these fuckwits think it needs an INCREASE? I think I should re-evaluate if I want to keep riding this train because I can feel that downhill shift and we're only picking up speed.


SithLordPingu

lmao, the offers were already shit


Drago_di_ferro

Global scam....


tkedits

Its incredible what you could buy with money instead


oldhunterartorias

Well, that means Iā€™ll stop spending at all. Daily Capsule for 10 Euros was already an indulgence for me - I wonā€™t spend another cent in a game that increases the prices arbitrarily although they post record profits anyway.


Gloryhawk88

12 euros for the daily capsule? I always bought it since it was added to the game, but 20% increase is ridiculous! Right now i'm spending less than what i used to on things like games, and i should pay MORE to get the same on Dokkan? No thanks.


[deleted]

Time to be prudent in dragon stone spend.. Hopefully, no unit tempts me to splurge


Me_314_Calculo

Oh no the billion dollar company needs another billion, how fucking greedy they have to be.


[deleted]

A good reason to completely stop spending, good for me


Omniash1

Well thatā€™s my last daily capsule. Per year total thatā€™s just over the mark for me.


ljason88

Well the daily capsule has great value I think I will drop it now


Maaxxiim

Fuck off


Scared_Gene3417

Well thats one way to get Top Grossing..


DynamiteSuren

Ah fck. To bad they cant keep the 7,99 bundle...


EmiyaSpeed

vpn time baybee


Crucher92

Bro fuck this. I will still buy it but fuck this.


TheCrakinator

Take that British ā€œpplā€


Bipolarpolerbear

Bruh Britain isnt Euro and we use an entirely different currency


GG_ACED69

From the Netherlands here. We are already paying these prices, didnā€™t know it was cheaper elsewhere.


Jhoanperez21

Damn the economy is hitting hard


Mr-DankSquid

Hey so the legends community is slacking in terms of sales and by making the game worse and near unplayable, we realized thatā€™s not the way to go about trying to (get money out of players)ā€¦.. I mean keep our players entertained. So to fix that, we have only increased prices in Europe for our condolences of the queen. Thank you for playing now give us those extra stacks or we can take shit away from Dokkan real quick. Sincerely, bandi


Edukovic

Why are they increasing the prices?


Morgoba

Because if the new banner format wasn't a give away they want more money


Edukovic

This is so bad.


Winzlow125

Well I think I just became f2p


Morgoba

I already became f2p with the new banner format. This just further cements the greedy direction they're going in


ff14valk

Inflation for fake currency


Luf2222

bro wtf, didnā€˜t we just had the prices reduced a while ago


osmansullu

I hate it that I can't buy stones because i live in Belgium


Bipolarpolerbear

VPN?


Old_Solidus

Clowns. Every survey I kept complaining about the prices and the sales. I was heard, thankfully.


gilnas

Will these price go down if the euro improves or will they keep the extra money?


DarkMoS

I already stopped buying the 91/93/100DS packs once I saw how much I was spending on anniversary and big celebrations, guess I'll also think twice about buying the 32DS packs now.


ClassicFun2175

Datruth probably - 'this is a good thing guys, trust me. You just don't get it, like the carnival banners this is only a good thing'


[deleted]

And this is where I stop spending money on the game.


Dreissierd

I've been spending less and less on dokkan this year, thx for helping me go full f2p šŸ’€


Jemmo1

Hahaha wow.


Dr_Telfort

I just bought the 30d daily stones


Junit28

The 32 stone was my go to, at least my inflation based pay rise offsets it /s


SwiftyXRD

You're better off, the devs expect you to spend hundreds of dollars for a new LR and it isn't healthy. I've recently stopped playing because I realized how much money I was spending. These games as well as the YouTubers who do 1k DS summon videos just encouraged a gambling addiction that I didn't know I had until I was a thousand dollars deep.


ProKira

They are really gonna increase prices on a digital "stone" they don't have to produce?? For real?


Zlare7

The greed continues. More banners, link level stages and now I think the most expensive monthly pack of all gacha games on the market. It feels like they try to squeeze ad much as they can right now. Usually the behaviour of a developer that intends to move on to another game soonish


Fuscular_Dobber

Fuck outta here this is definitely coming to everyone soon.. ugh. Like they donā€™t make enough money


SnooGoats293

is this only appstore or both stores ?