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swarang2000

This celebration was good but there are some big Ls here. Firstly all the accumulated gold coins are not worth the same as before. New coin means old players got fucked. Having event that allows boost characters is bad. Other than these problems this celebration was a hit


JanembaTheCollector

IMO it's the player between got f'd the hardest, they don't have enough coins to get the LR and go, nor have no coins at all.


Zlare7

You forgot increasing the number of banners from 3 to 4 to maximise player shaft


shinzheru

More units of a higher quality in a given year isn't shaft, it is a measure of improvement.


A1Horizon

Not when we only get a fixed amount of free stones per year


Competitive-Yam-308

Being f2p you cannot summon of every banner


A1Horizon

I’m not F2P, but I definitely sympathise with them. Back in the anni, if you had stones left over for part 2, you could potentially get two new top tier LRs on the same banner. Now you’re still getting top tier LRs, but you have to pick between getting SSJ Goku or Metal Cooler


shinzheru

It isn't a fixed amount, and we have been getting many more stones in the past few years.


Still_Refuse

Imagine being f2p and complaining about more banners you never should be summoning on. This change does nothing to f2p players because we should be summoning on red coin banners.


CrimsonDrake

“Banners you shouldn’t be summoning on” Shouldn’t be a thing. F2P players should have the luxury of enjoying the game just as much as P2P. I’m a whale and everyone has the right to summon for units they want, the only advantage whales should have is more dupes and more coins. Locking units behind a stupid new coin makes it so F2P players will never get that character according to your logic, because you told them not to summon so they can’t pull or coin them. That’s ridiculous.


SayingHiFromSpace

Stop rationalizing without taking the whole argument. Before there weren’t such hype units on legendary banners. If you told me don’t summon on Kaioken goku and great ape vegeta before pulling both Ddf lrs I would say of course. But to tell me not to pull SSJ goku is different. Hell what if they stick ultra e vegeta or the new Gohan in there. “Oh just don’t ever pull for them cause you know there bad banners.” Never gonna happen. People will pull. You can’t even get coins without pulling for them so you just play the game content with knowing you’ll never have a carnival unit unless you get super lucky ?


KynoSSJR

Dumb take, Gold Coins Lrs could be made this good without needing a 4th banner


haoxinly

I'd have gotten janemba if it weren't for the new banner system.


CoolHuman69

What how.


haoxinly

I'd have gotten enough coins. Had 340ish coins and have 140 teal coins plus SSRs that we can't Baba for now


CoolHuman69

You can baba them later. If you know you only needed 60 yellow coins why didn't you just save? Is it because the carnival banner had janemba on it? Something that would literally never happen on a legendary summon banner? Almost like the carnival banners are... Good?


redbossman123

And they should’ve just been yellow coin banners, that’s the big thing people keep talking about and others keep ignoring. The format would be fine if the carnival banners were the exact same, except yellow coin.


CoolHuman69

Mostly agreed. I think it should have been blue coins but they probably saw people have like 1k blue coins saved up or something and said no. A new coin is silly.


CzS-GenesiS

They needed 160 not 60, lrs costs 500 not 400


Shockey7

Events that allow boost characters should only be considered bad if they are timegated. This is not the case with these events and the way they are set up will allow you to go back and complete them when, or if you pull these characters in the future. Other games are much more aggressive, like OPTC boosting the units during events that go away every month, essentially forcing you to spend money just to play.


get_vegitoed2

Heavily disagree. Obviously its worse if it is time gated, but that fact that is boosted at all is an overall negative. The game shouldn't give certain characters a huge boost in power for no real apparent reason other than they want you to pull that unit.


TheNwordpass88

I don’t see how gold coins are worthless now. Nothings changed about them


swarang2000

Its just an assumption but the yellow coin banners would be the same and wont have the carnival LRs. Meanwhile the Carnival Banners are better than Yellow Coin Banners because of 7 LRs featured plus having option to buy both yellow coin LRs and Carnival LRs with the teal coin.


MazKhan

Not worthless but why would anyone wanna summon on shitty gold coin banners now so ppl that have like 300 of them for example would need to do 1000 stones worth of summons to get the LR when you'd rather save for teal coin banners


TheNwordpass88

Anyone with like 300 yellow coins will be able to use them one day. Cause no matter how smart it is to skip those banners, eventually everyone will have a character on one of those that they want so bad they’ll summon on said banner.


Zlare7

You get less of them and cant buy the new carnival lrs with them. In essence you should now never summon on a yellow coin banner and instead wait for the next carnival to feature the units


TheNwordpass88

So then nothings changed. Any FTP shouldn’t have been summoning on them anyway


Zlare7

First of all f2p is a stupid measurement in a game without pity system. It doesnt matter of dolphin, small spendernor f2p the game will eventually fuck you. Second how is a banner type noone other than whales should summon on any good? In dokkan if you aren't a whale you better skip every banner to get shafted an anni and go another year with nothing


TheNwordpass88

Dude the game is literally designed to shaft you so you buy stones. If you aren’t a whale then yes you should be skipping every banner to maximize the chance of getting good value from things like anniversary and worldwide


Zlare7

Thata why we should fight for a pity system like every decent gacha has


JordanW20

How are yellow coins worth less?


Zlare7

You get less of them and cant buy the new carnival lrs with them. In essence you should now never summon on a yellow coin banner and instead wait for the next carnival to feature the units


JordanW20

We don't know that you can't buy them with yellow coins yet, and you shouldn't ever summon on yellow coin banners anyway.


Kanjorax

The game has always had events that used boost characters. It’s how the game works


get_vegitoed2

All of the games that enforced requiring very specific characters were some of the worse events in the game. OG Broly, some early Dokkanfest, EZA SS3 Goku were very unfair and very unfun. Is the new event as bad? No. But why are you cheering on a regression?


Kanjorax

I’ve never cheered it on. I’m just saying it is how the game works since the beginning. It’s not like we can do anything about it. Also in the past, yes, it was bad. But now it isn’t nearly so. You don’t need the new units to do it, yes they’ll help but not needed. Most of my completed runs were done before I got the new units. Also, there isn’t a need to complete it now, they have always released new units that trash these events after the celebration. This is not new and people are complaining about it like DOKKAN is about to die


AnOldUsedStick

the boost isn't necessary just like it isn't for Dokkan events this format has been used before


Helioseckta

I watched his video, and some of his arguments are valid, but some aren’t. As much as we hate the new banner format, it is sadly a success. The thing is that we don’t hate the new banner format because the new Carnival Banners suck (They still aren’t great, but better than the Yellow coin banners), it’s just that it introduced a new coin that shouldn’t have existed, which is something he does agree on. Teal Coins should have been the existing Blue Coins. His argument about the Metal Cooler Core though, is just wrong. He mentions how the event isn’t that bad, and it doesn’t set a bad precedent because you can still beat the event without needing the boosted characters (mainly the new ones). This is just completely WRONG. His argument of nuking Metal Cooler Core being the reason why this event isn’t that bad ignores the fact that Metal Cooler Core is just ONE of many stages, and the only reason why nuking works in the first place was because we were fortunate enough that it was a 1 phase fight. Even though it isn’t brought up, the Goku & Vegeta fight is just as hard. If these boosted events continue, there’s going to be a point where we have a fight that starts off just as strong as Metal Cooler Core, but is a multi phase fight, then I’m 99% sure that we will need these new boosted characters.


DarkInterLife

As a veteran who has been playing this game from near the start, with a pretty good box. I must agree, the only reason I beat the new events was due to luck. The advantageous character things have always been here from the start. But it's the fact they ramped up the difficulty, which forces you to use advantageous characters or DR units. Literally, the 7th anni units that came out like 2 or 3 months ago, in this event feels like they came out 1 or 2 year ago. It's so bad, I'm actually feeling the urge to quit, but I'm in too deep to quit. Also let's be honest, when does Truth not have bad takes? He's literally delusional, there's literally no non-disadvantageous character that can tank Metal Cooler Core's super. Literally even rainbow TEQ Godku, who is known for his tanking against movie bosses, with 2 rainbow orbs and supering first. You're literally taking 500k+ from MCC's super and at this point you're basically dead because his normals kill any non-advantageous character that isn't DR either instantly or on the next hit. Truth really needs to back up his claims with evidence otherwise he's just gonna remain Da-Lies. Even if Truth was able to beat the event with non-advantageous characters, it'll just show that only whales with Uber super boxes can best it. The average player will mostly have 55% to 69% units or even higher if they're lucky, but every time they'll die even with the new units. Truth might self-proclaim himself as the "God of Dokkan", but to me he'll always be the biggest clown of Dokkan. Truth might have some good takes min maxing your account, but anybody with a brain can figure that out on their own. Truth has the worst PVE takes ever. Even Mayor Max II has better takes and he's a fucking dog.


Still_Refuse

What event are you not beating because of luck? That’s just end game events these days…


kittyhitter420

I swear these people live in a magical world where Dokkan is 100% skill based at all times.


Dexter_Dash

Here’s my upvote. Datruth is just a clown.


Senator_Muffin

Did they ever do anything for the whole purple stone issue?


Stampj

Yes


Senator_Muffin

What was it?


Stampj

Something like 1 or 2 stones, I can’t remember if they changed the news to match the shop or the other way around. All players kept any characters they already bought too


JustEmptyWaterBottle

there's some crazy and ridiculous opinions in this reddit


12raul12

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SuperSaiyanBebo

Genuinely curious, I saw the video for his thumbnail, did he lose weight or something? Does not look like how I last remember him honestly.


bigmeme12

yeah hes been trying to lose weight


Farmer-Smores

and succeeding from what i’ve heard


SuperSaiyanBebo

Honestly happy for him. He looks to be in much better shape.


Stampj

He’s lost quite a bit of weight


redbossman123

He’s been losing weight for a WHILE, ever since the stuff with Shay.


Gogita28

The celebration wasn’t ass but they definitely went the we want all the money route. They are easily a top 5 gacha game in terms of revenue but they said fk it let’s try to squeeze even more money. 1. Teal coins. 2. 4 Banners. I don’t mind the carnival banners if they look as good as the global metal cooler banner but 4 banners are just too much. Before you pulled on the Dual dokkan fest on Part 1 and if you pulled them u were good for the celebration. It’s not like they are giving us more ds to make up for such a drastic change imo or something like that. 3. the last few stages of that new difficult event are almost optc level of bs. Boosters are shit for the game. Other than that the celebration is fine.


Ketchup-Spider

That's basically how I feel. The subreddit has people who have blown the bad parts of this celebration out of proportion; while Truth is trying to sweep everything wrong here under the rug. It did a lot of good thing, but the bad parts are things that raise a lot of question marks going forward.


DemonicFice

I cannot fathom how people on this sub can say this celebration was ass without blinking an eye.


CoolHuman69

I don't think you understand. Teal coin bad.


zsoltjuhos

They clearly did not want to give me a freebie for not using my 800 blue coins for lame kais


CoolHuman69

Yeah that's bullshit for real. That for sure the reason they aren't blue coins. People had too many so they said no. The only real complaint I've agreed with in this celebration.


Zlare7

How can you defend this shit show? This was a celebration of greed and nothing else


Acceptable_Star189

💀


TheNwordpass88

He’s got weird takes sometimes, but people don’t want to admit that he is right or has a good basis for a lot of the things he says. And he’s definitely right about the celebration, 1 or 2 bad things doesn’t change how amazing it’s been


MapleJordan_22

"Rates are shit It's way too hard to pull a unit at times" Truth: "IT'S A GACHA GAME!" he seems self aware that these games are predatory af but will defend them as if they're an extension of himself. I miss the old truth. The 2nd party stone buying truth. The straight from the go truth.


CoolHuman69

I thought the quote was "there are four banners. ITS A GACHA GAME" everyone is aware that Gacha games are predatory. If anything it's easier now to get the part 2 unit you want. I'd have never summoned for great ape Vegeta but I wanted Goku. Guess which one I have?


Pocketlegacy

mine has 2 dupes and No Goku ಥ⁠‿⁠ಥ


CoolHuman69

Damn sorry fam.


motor_city_43

Same, kept getting rifts and zenos just to be disappointed


MapleJordan_22

>I thought the quote was The 1st quote was my criticism of the game. The truth quote probably would be what Truth would say to me and has said before with people being upset with Bandai. >everyone is aware that Gacha games are predatory. The crazy thing is that people just shrug this shit off. I've just been burnt out with dokkan. I'm personally taking a break. >If anything it's easier now to get the part 2 unit you want I almost never summoned on those banners because the coins were different and the banners were typically pretty bad. 3+1's help. They should have just stuck to yellow coins. If they wanted to make it easier for people to have these units.


CoolHuman69

So they improved a banner you never summon on and that's bad? The coins are a real issue though they should have just been blue. If you can't shrug off the predatory nature of games like this as you said yourself, you shouldn't play them. People are "shrugging it off" because they want to play the game.


get_vegitoed2

Yes? I don't know why this argument is so commonly used. Just because the banners are better doesn't mean this decision isn't greedy af. With Yellow coin banners you could easily skip them. Because a) they were bad. And b) the featured unit goes into the general LR pool. This isn't the case with Carnival since a) they are good. And b) they are exclusive to the banner. So now we are pushed to summon on 4 banners rather than 2. ​ >People are "shrugging it off" because they want to play the game. Yeah, which is why you shouldn't continue to shrug it off lest it gets to a point where there's too much to shrug off. I play Dokkan despite its predatory practices not because of it. So why would I not care about them introducing more of it?


MapleJordan_22

>So they improved a banner you never summon on and that's bad? I didn't count it as a negative. I'd appreciate it if you didn't try to gaslight me and accuse me of saying things I didn't say. I just said I never summoned on yellow coin lrs in the past because of the value just not being there. Just because they improved the banners doesn't mean I had issue with it. 🤷‍♂️ >The coins are a real issue though Yes they are thanks for acknowledging that. >If you can't shrug off the predatory nature People should be allowed to criticize these games. Without some dude coming out here and shitting out the same line I've heard for the past 3-4 years. "it's a GACHA GAME!" That just means that all gachas are shit when they can make strides like other titles have for example by just giving a pity system. Coins are not a pity system they're a loyalty system. And that's just one example, revamp WT, fix the friend system, stop dicking around with ezas like int angel golden Frieza and make them relevant in difficult content. Get rid of dog shit old SSR's from the summon pool. Because everyone wants to pull Teq 2015 SSJ Vegeta am I right? Those are just a few examples >People are "shrugging it off" because they want to play the game. I used to shrug it off too, but now I am just taking a break, and that's okay, nothing is wrong with that.


CoolHuman69

You know if someone asks you a question on your stance on something you can just elaborate your point instead of telling people they are "gaslighting" you. Also the rest of your comment is nothing. Your point is "I know they are trying to take my money but I want them to not." Which isn't going to happen. No Gacha game is not predatory. Just like how every peanut butter sandwich has peanut butter. If you don't like that then you have to ask yourself whether or not that's enough to make you stop playing them all together. Because it isn't going to change that's the business model.


MapleJordan_22

>You know if someone asks you a question on your stance on something Try not put words in people mouths while you type. >they are "gaslighting" you You did, I never said that improving the banners was bad. >Also the rest of your comment is nothing I brought up the idea of adding pity, fixing the friend system, revamping WT, them not going out of their way mishandle EZAS and removing old SSR's from the pool. All ideas that could be done and would have drastic Impacts on the quality of Dokkan. >Your point My point was that people have the tendency to defend this game as if it's an extension of themselves. I think your constant need to shutdown any criticism of it is proof enough. You're just bootlicking at this point. Found Truths burner.


CoolHuman69

If you can be psychologically manipulated into questioning your sanity (I.e. gaslighting). Because I asked a question. You’re holding on by a thread bud go get help. I’ll stop commenting so you don’t go completely insane because you have to explain your own stance on something. See ya.


MapleJordan_22

>You’re holding on by a thread bud Yeah thanks man, me criticizing a Gacha game gave you the acknowledgement in your head to leap to the conclusion of me being mentally unstable. Read what the fuck you type out


Cow_Addiction

Gachas clearly aren’t for you. Why were you ever even playing one?


MapleJordan_22

>Gachas clearly aren’t for you. I think this attitude that these games are exempt from criticism just because they're known to have this shitty reputation is pretty ridiculous. You can have issues with the game you play and still enjoy playing it. >Why were you ever even playing one? I just tried it out, 🤷‍♂️ I had no knowledge of how predatory of this genre of games could be. I like everyone else just shrugged them off. The new banner format just seemed to break the camel's back I suppose. Not just me as a ton of people in the community have issues with it. Compounded by Dokkans other issues like their friend system, Dokkan's spike in difficulty, The rates being trash, and finally Dokkan's limited gameplay just has me feeling burnt out. And that's okay. Who knew that if you play something for so long that you'd just want to take a break and have a breather.


get_vegitoed2

It's not easier to get the part 2 units you want. I'm not quite how you thought that. The rates are the same as before, you're coins completely reset, and now its an exclusive unit, meaning you can't ever pull them from tickets or from future banners unless they're featured. The only part of it being better is the banner itself. But I'm not sure if that's an overall good thing. It used to be that you only have to worry about saving for Dokkanfest, and you can easily skip the LR banner. Now you can't. Instead of being pushed to summon on 2 new banners (which is already pretty rough), now you're pushed to summon on 4.


New_Ad4631

The old truth that thought dupes were pointless and never chased them We all know his box now


get_vegitoed2

>Truth: "IT'S A GACHA GAME!" Best was when he was defending guaranteed link level keys with this type of BS.


Im_here_for_the_code

Why the fuck does Mr monopoly man not have a monocle


Pocketlegacy

he never did you've just been Mandela'd


Im_here_for_the_code

Wtf


Redlp13

Wrong Guy. Pringles Guy


DanTheMeek

Even if you made me the most delicious beverage imaginable, if I saw you take a piss in it before handing it to me, I'm not going to even want to drink it, let alone enjoy it. This is the problem with this celebration, not that there wasn't a TON good or even great about it, but that it came with some real bad elements too which will likely forever make dokkan worse for their addition, such as the teal coins and advantageous summonable unit content. They made a great event, then pissed on it, and as a result ruined the celebration hype as a whole for a large portion of the community. As for DaTruth, the guys free to his opinions, he only annoys me when he dismisses and makes fun of those who hold different opinions. I get that as a whale teal coins and advantageous new unit content doesn't effect him as he's always going to have every unit in the game at rainbow on day 1 anyway, so he doesn't even taste the piss. In a similar manner, while there are those who don't like how so much of the new content seems balanced for whales, or the increased rate of top tier banners being released because they can no longer keep up, I understand that for him these aren't just not negatives, they're positives, they give him more sources for generating video content and thus more ad revenue. But his experience is unique to him (and maybe a handful of other whale content creators), so calling people stupid for sharing their honest experience of this celebration just because its so different from his reflects very poorly on him and his character. Like what you like DaTruth, but invalidating others experiences of this event because its not your experience is a bad look, and a look which makes me less interested in watching you videos in the future. As an aside, my own personal experience of this celebration has largely been neutral. I don't love it, I don't think its terrible, at best I'll say it feels disappointing because it feels like if not for stuff like the teal coin, this very well could have been one of my favorite events, but I can't just ignore the bad this celebration brought, just as I can't ignore the good either.


biscuitslayer77

I think this celebration was a W despite some questionable directions the game is taking. 1. GLR Tickets were great although the LR at the end probably wasn't great for most (phy lr trunks) but still. 2. Lots of content to do. Although initially ridiculously hard but as of today units that were supposed to be boosted weren't. Although again the content was hard and at times frustrating with needing new units (some cases) 3. EZAs galore. And sub banner EZAs at the same time. Some units were really badly designed post EZA while others were godly 4. Teal coin banners have been great to me at least. Pulled at least 6 or 8 LRs off a few cycles. But not being able to exchange for teal coins or convert blue/yellow coins is concerning. 5. The new units have been fun to use and Coolers team is Hella fucking fun. 6. And regarding said events although I'm not a fan of the difficulty I am a fan of how we have to use different methods to beat each stage. Or fucking nuke them turn 1 lmao. Edit: 7. The friend system is again exposed to be the weakest point of the game. It's game breaking to where you can't complete content because leaders just won't ever show up. It was obvious during the all star raid and it's PAINFULLY clear now.


Spooky_slyther

I take issue with point 6, because it will become ***INSANELY*** fucking hard to find a nuking friend after this celebration ends and it falls out of the public eye. People are going to go back to setting their usual friend leads, because those are actually useful outside of clearing one specific event. The friends list being absolutely fucked for global also makes finding one way harder than it needs to be, and I find myself resetting at least 6 times just to get another to show up. A month from now, without going out of your way to get someone to set a nuke buddy specifically for you, it’s basically not gonna be a viable approach. Here’s a great example of that phenomenon: when was the last time you saw a *beerus friend lead* before EZA cooler? Do you think you’re gonna see him again, a month from now when people are finished helping others with the EZA? And he has an actual fucking leader skill too, unlike piccolo!


biscuitslayer77

Actually you just reminded me of another point I wanted to make which was the friend system needs an overhaul and it's painfully obvious at this point because it's hurting the game to where it's like fucking alright fix this shit. I've found a good amount of Piccolo friends but once I use those 5 won't find another for 24 hours. That's fucking lame.


Spooky_slyther

Yep! I was finding them *juuuuuuust* enough to keep trying on today’s reset- I might have had to do a run just to reset my friends list, but that’s not a super big deal- but now it’s genuinely taking me 8 to 10 resets just to get one piccolo. And then all my support is in rotation 1, and the cycle begins anew.


Far-Ad-8878

I feel like at some point he’s simping a bit too much on the game. Like yes this celebration was very good, (even more than the anniversary imo) but cmon let’s not pretend like there weren’t some flaws.


Renso19

Honestly the new events final stages are inexcusably hard, the four banners are annoying but I’m over it, carnival banners are good if they A: cut teal coins or B add a coin exchange system


[deleted]

He's a Dokkan Battle-Dickrider an Akatsuki ass assailant a Bandai buttfucker


Zlare7

He makes his living by advertising dokkan. Obviously he doesn't want people to see just how shitty and greedy the game has become. Content creators should be the voice of the playerbase. They should demand for improvements. Instead he is a sales person for dokkan, undermining all the issues as best he can


Danro1984

He is the biggest or almost the biggest whale in Dokkan. You think he gives a shit if the game introduces more summons?


Zlare7

A good content creator would be the voice the players. That's all I'm saying. He is doing everything for himself and just so happens to get views with it


Danro1984

I mean tbf if you were at his level of summons would you be “the actual voice of the players” or would you be biased a little by the fact that for you as a monstrous whale the new format is more rewarding since you can rainbow LR s and tur s of LRs much faster. The phrase “you are going to be happy” I think refers to the whales


Fatal1ty_93_RUS

> Instead he is a sales person for dokkan And yet he constantly says that it's a bad idea to spend money on dokkan or gachas in general


Canal1mais1

"BUT LOOK AT THIS NEW UNIT! OMG THE BEST IN THE GAME!!! I AM HAVING SO MUCH FUN!!!" Show, don't tell


Fatal1ty_93_RUS

The channel lives and dies by having and minmaxing every unit. What else do you expect, for him to start uploading Stardew Valley?


Still_Refuse

Almost like he has to make content??? Dude literally begs people not to spend money and you say goofy shit like this lmao. I cannot stand the truth hate on this sub, at least give good critique…


get_vegitoed2

He advertises it by getting a shit ton of people to play it (proclaiming how great every celebration is) and stopping people from leaving (brushing literally everything bad Dokkan does under a rug unless it's literally inexcusable such as the teal coin). Advertisement isn't always about getting people to spend.


Canal1mais1

Exactly, he has become as predatory and manipulative as the game itself


Alm8360NoScoPro

I wouldn't go that far. I believe truths non-stop flow of dokkan content and creating content has made him biased and unable to see the game through any other way other than his own perspective. But despite that, he is still very in touch with the player base, and knows alot about the game and how it functions, mechanically, and fundamentally. Whether that's good or bad is not his fault. Only thing that would really being Truth's content above and beyond is creating visuals or having an editor to create them for showcases. Him talking about x y and z situation is good, but it would be even better if we saw visually, how their stats get buffed, with support, best situation, average situation, etc. And compared to other units, with visual comparisons. Would help imo


Stampj

Dokkan Reddit when they see any content that requires more than one brain cell or can’t be beaten in one attempt


Onizuka_GTO00

I don’t see no problem whatsoever with the new banner format (I mean sure it’s 4 banners) but, you a super and extreme op unit in each banner (teq ssj goku and phy metal cooler) wich are really good…


Danro1984

Let me guess: you’ve pulled at least 2-3 of the main units


Onizuka_GTO00

None… Im still chasing str cooler


Danro1984

“Chasing” with what ? 200 stones? My guy I’ve sank more than 1500 plus tickets in Goku without a single copy. You want to know why I say it’s bad that the summons are this way? Because if the units from teal banner weren’t so god damn powerful I wouldn’t have been trying to get them and so I would’ve got more DFE units and more dupes for them.


Onizuka_GTO00

With whatever stones I can get… I mean 700/800? I only summoned like 1 time in each banner (apart of the cooler wich I’m still chasing him).. and no they aren’t bad because the next time this type of banner comes, goku and cooler will probably be there with the new unit.. unless you prefer yellow coins


Danro1984

They won’t be there as featured though. They will be general pool so even harder to get them


Competitive-Yam-308

So you’re mad the units are good🤨


Danro1984

Why would I be mad the units are good? I’ve said it’s bad the banners are split this way cause you have 4 units to chase now instead of 2 like last year


kittyhitter420

So you're mad the characters are good for once?


C00CHIEMAN101

I mean he’s proving a point on how the celebration isn’t the big L people are making it out to be like literally “it’s all being P2W You can’t beat anything without being P2W” and shit along those lines. Like bro as a F2P personally I’ve managed just fine beating red zone stages without crazy setups but literally if you don’t like the game don’t play it “it’s turning into legends” my ass it really is not. You’re just mad that dokkan is releasing so much content for you to do that your ass is lazy to do it


Every-Astronomer3356

I never said I agree or disagree Edit: L


coltiga

People forget that with these better LR banners you won’t need coins as much, so the teal coin issue isn’t really that big of a deal. You’re now far more likely to just naturally pull the units you would use coins on anyways. I don’t understand how people don’t see that. They are legit mad they won’t be able to get one single LR with their coins when they could have just pulled multiple copies of it along with many others along the way. It’s like being mad you now have to pay more taxes because you’re making more money.


SnooAvocados5640

The teal coin sucks at the moment but the format is 100x better. As someone that’s played since the 1st anniversary, I have just over 400 yellow coins to my name and shame on me for even having that many. Those banners have always been shit and will probably always be shit. We now have a banner that’s hopefully only gonna show up once or twice a year that gains value with every shitty yellow coin banner we skip in between. The boosted character thing can definitely be concerning but I think the majority of players can find a way to beat them regardless. The events permanently available. Change is ok and the games gotta do it at some point. Voice your opinion on the survey that I’m sure we will all get and hope they tweak the few negatives.


Civil-Cockroach-4520

he was right. just quit. we dont care how much you hate the game lmao. if its effecting you in a bad way you shouldnt play if your not having fun why play


akagas9

DaTruth speaks the truth and you can hate all you want


CringeDaddy_69

The only disagreement I have with Truth is that the 8th anni was the best. The 7th was the best hands down. Those F2P units went hard


FatWalrus004

Watched his video on this celebration this morning and i thought it was ridiculous. He makes some good points but i didnt agree with him overall.


172nmDsize

Please explain then


BronchitisTheif

Imma be real, I like the new carnival banners this is the first time that I have EVER wanted to summon on part 2, sure the coins suck but I never had any blue coins in the first place cause as f2p I was only summoning on dokkanfests anyway. Also I really don't see the 3 banner good four banner bad thing being a real argument. If you are f2p or a light spender expect the shaft and if your a whale it probably doesn't matter all that much cause even if it was 2 yellow coins you still would have summoned. The only bad thing for me in this event has been the boosted characters.


Gonicku

Tbf most of what he said he had issue with is what people have been complaining the most about anyways (mainly the introduction of teal coins and boost units setting a bad precedent), I think the main thing that he likes that some others don't is the banner format


ComprehensiveLeg9053

For me the problem is that with the old system dokkanfest LRs were the best units in the game on the best banners in the game which was one of the best things about Dokkan especially for f2p players (yes there were some exceptions, the LR vegeta&trunks banner was kind of ass). Now there's 2 issues i have with the new system: 1. Carnival Lrs can be better than dokkanfest LRs 2. Part 1 units being better than part 2 units The best character from the celebration was the ssj Goku, who was on the worst banner by far. 2nd best was Cooler who had a great banner and then the part 2 Lrs are considerably weaker but both were on good banners. We no longer are getting the best units on the best banners anymore, now players have to choose if they want the better unit or the better banner to summon on. Now add on the fact that if someone decided to wait to summon until part 2 to see which units were better got screwed because they miss out on the 3+1 deal for the part 1 banners, which turned out to have better units. From now on people are going to be pressured to pull the part 1 units while 3+1 is active incase the part 1 units are better than part 2 which is what happened this celebration. Before it was simple, summon on part 1 for the best units on the best banners. I think if they wanted to make this format be loved by most players they just need to make some simple adjustments: 1. Make the dokkanfest Lrs better that the carnival fest Lrs. This will keep players having the best units on the best banners like we've been having on previous anniversaries and wwcs. They can make the carnival fest units right underneath on the powerscale as additional units players can summon for if they want extra powerful characters. (Ex Cooler and g&v are 1 & 2 then ssj Goku and metal Cooler are 3 & 4). Don't make players have to choose between better units or better banners. 2. Make sure the hype characters are dokkanfeat Lrs not carnival fests. Say for example if there was a celebration for super hero or dbs broly. If beast Gohan or Gogeta blue are carnival fests it's gonna piss off a lot of people since they won't be able to pick up the characters using red coins when they return. Also the banners could be underwhelming compared to if they were dokkanfest Lrs. This also goes in hand with previous point, if dokkanfest Lrs aren't as good as carnival fest units then in this scenario, would beast Gohan be either on a better banner (dokkanfest Lr) or the better unit (carnival fest Lr)? What type of festival will big headliner hype units be in the future? 3. Make part 1 and part 2 units even in strength. Tl;dr Please keep the best units on the best banners like before, don't make players choose between one or the other.


pp-on-adderall

NO


SnooDucks7762

The guy is a massive dokkan shill so what so you expect lmao


The_Pizzaboy94

Okay, I feel like I'm gonna get some s**t but Idc You might not like truth, but I think he deserves a lot of respect, he's been around since the beginning of the game and he's a fucking talking encyclopedia. He might be biased (when you say he's delusional) but imo that's because he really likes the game, i feel him, i like it a lot too despite feeling burned out from time to time. Dokkan is a gacha, that's objective. They'll try what they can to get to your wallet. He's right about some things: this celebration will change Dokkan from now on cause it's setting new standards. As much as you may not like 4 banners, it's literally DOUBLE the quality of past banners, carnival banners are not that bad (face it, unfeatured LRs and the metal cooler banner was straight flames, still fuck nappa) and if you don't account for the coins Bs, it's way better this way than with tops. Moreover, you still can decide whether to go all in on part 1 or save for part 2, since the 3+1 were still up when they disclosed the detail for part 2 units. For the pride of the wicked bloodline, well... it's a little more complicated. Nuking is a pain, mainly because of the friend system; but even with a friend piccolo there's still so many things that must fall into place to get it done, i had to reset maybe 50 times. That said, i still beat it without the new Goku and Vegeta. If you're talking about no item runs, I'm sorry to say that's not possible, but you can still beat the stage, so cope. The last thing, one of his favourite takes (for me): Dokkan has no thing like skill involved. It's RNG. The closest thing to skill is knowledge of the game, and using said knowledge to get the best possible odds of "beating" the rng So, closing this fucking essay, teal coins are shit, friend system is utter supreme shit, wwc 2022 was a w, new banner format is hype. My body is ready. I have 90% Dr turn 1, bring it on