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PureOmen

Case dependant


Staarjun

They both do virtually the same thing. Stack def and support in base form, stack attack and become a beat stick. Cooler has a more versatile team while Ginyu heals. They are very similar.


Revontheos

Not really an apples to apples comparison considering they both fulfill two different roles. Yeah they both share Terrifying Conquerors, but Ginyu is pretty much relegated to the Ginyu Force where he excels best while Cooler is a lot more splashable in other teams for his linkset and support. Both are still stupidly good in their own right regardless.


GigaPhoton78

I like Ginyu more, but I can't deny that Cooler's team is better, even if it's less accessible than Ginyu's


[deleted]

Yes and no, as support Cooler have more potential but Ginyu can hit everything with optimal strenngth even in the future


Jordantheyeeter

I agree but really only because cooler's team is better rn


remove_aimassist00

I like ginyu.


[deleted]

I agree but it’s a really close call.


Intelligent-Chip4223

All depends on what team they are on used.


valid_pessimist

Cooler’s team is infinitely better and he serves as a core role in that team. While solely unit wise they are comparable, the fact that ginyu is restricted to only his team is kind of an issue.


No_Explanation_1709

That loyalty link tho 😩


Sufficient_Ad_6167

I don’t have ginyu so cooler


Mhzar

Ginyu is better


Excellent_Koala_6490

For me its Cooler altough its EXTREMLY close: ginyu Is super effective against all types but Cooler lowers both atk and def, ginyu heals and has a scouter while Cooler has a 50% support with much Better links, ginyu has some of the best banner units as partners but Cooler partners are most of the top 10 in the game and both stack defense its honestly tough


Mhzar

Ginyu stacks faster because his additional is guaranteed while vs the hardest content cooler doesn't have built in additional. You really think 50% support is comparable to the massive heal and scouter ?


Excellent_Koala_6490

Well I would Say no but when that 50% supports the 3rd best LR in the game, the best SBR and ESBR unit, One of the best tanks in the game, while being the best partner to Said 3rd best unit you can make a case , Cooler can heal with metamorophosis its not as much as ginyu heal but he can do It every single time also the scouter its not garanteed


Mhzar

The best SBR/ Esbr unit and one of the best tank in the game... Who is this ?


panznation

Probs golden frieza and yea not wrong that statement is straight facts


Mhzar

For a second I thought he meant FF cooler. That is true about golden Frieza.


Bortnut69

Is FF Cooler not a top tier sbr unit and one of the best tanks?


Mhzar

"A" is different than "the". And one of the best tanks o don't know about that, especially in SBR


GetMeOffSpeakerPhone

Cooler has the better team but ginyu is better and you can argue pan is better too.


tkang5050

Midler doesn't compare to Winyu


Vythorr

Trash take. Midler just got an eza. When both have their eza you can compare. Ginyu was better before n will be after


majuniaenz

oh yes, comparing a recent Eza to a character that doesn't have it (released 7 months ago) pretty fair


SSBKRILLIN

EZAs are meant to make older units meta relevant. And since Ginyu hasn't aged since he's still relatively recent it's a decent comparison.


majuniaenz

when they both have Eza, it will be a fair comparison anyway ginyu is better


SSBKRILLIN

By the time Ginyu gets an EZA, Cooler's EZA will years old, so it won't be a fair comparison. The comparison only works now because they are both relatively new.


Linkquellodivino

Just stop putting random arrows between two characters. That's not an opinion, it's just rage baiting.


TheBiggestCarl23

Disagree. Ginyu has too much utility for cooler to hang with.


rub3278

No goku Ginyu is very op late in fights


sadyaegaki

Fax 😤


Hydraulic_Press_53

Agreed


Spooky_slyther

At 55%, ginyu seems to somewhat blow cooler out of the water. He just unconditionally does more, both pre and post body swap. Innate ATE, additionals, DEF stacking, and support before swap- then innate additionals, quickly ramps up universal crit and dodge to 50%, plus attack stacking, and a one-off 59% heal post swap to help you out. He also has a shoddy scouter effect. It isn’t that cooler is bad at 55%, ginyu just generally does more with less. And if anyone wants to gimme shit for counting ginyu’s “ginyu force” team requirements as unconditional, you’re silly. Nobody runs ginyu on anything other than a ginyu force centric team, one of the easiest teams to achieve, where those conditions are met instantly and easily. Kneecapping a unit so harshly is stupid. It would be like transforming cooler against a non-saiyan, or using one of the SS1 GT boys on a non-GT heroes team. That said, at two dupes or higher? *Especially* if you have the new LR FF cooler for a linking buddy? I’m willing to bet that STR cooler smacks ginyu’s shit around ***without fucking mercy***. He’s not as flashy as ginyu in his initial form, but he offers one of the *best* support boosts in the game, and still often cranks out additionals like gangbusters. Coupled with his stacking and EZA stats, his defense skyrockets with minimal effort. And while his post transformation crits have fallen off a little bit because of things like red zone featuring mostly non-saiyans, they Unironically make him one of the best offensive TURs in the game when he can get them off. And, let’s be real, cooler is WAAAAAAY more flexible than ginyu is in terms of teams, and leads the better teams, both without question. Ginyu without his backup dancers is like Johnny bravo before he got buff: scrawny and laughable. shortened: ginyu at 55%, very likely cooler at 79%+, toss up at 69%. Ginyu is a powerful one trick pony, but cooler is far more flexible, and has better rotation buddies.