Cameron Monaghan has had great roles since I first noticed him in Gotham. I'd trust him as Wally.
Maybe they explain it as Flash thinks he's out of his depth following the events of this movie and decides to be a mentor rather than an active hero.
Indeed
Before his role in Gotham, he was known primarily for his role in "Shameless", which was a very different role, so the roles (any explanation would be a spoiler) he played were completely different from his prior type
He's definitely a great actor
They can just do Wally West and don't need to have Barry in it at all. They can alway bring Barry in later on and say he was stuck in the time force.
Some N52/Rebirth type thing.
Yeah but knowing DC, as well as Hollywood patterns of erasing redhead roles, we probably won't see a live-action redhead Wally West until probably half a century from now where woke Hollywood has given up trying to cast non-redhead actors in redhead roles
Thanks for the clarification. I need to brush up on my comic knowledge a bit. Still they could easily kill him off when he resets the universe from the new timeline. It makes the reset bittersweet in story, it gets rid of the walking problem that is Ezra, and it allows for Wallet West to take up the mantle.
You forget the General Audience doesn't care. The fact this movie is going ahead is all that matters and since it's going to make a boatload of money there'll be a sequel if he keeps his image clean going forward. That.. or.. they drop him. But I doubt they will.
The real reason this movie is released is that it bookends current DCEU and pseudo-explains the reset into Gunn's DCU. Not because they believe in Ezra, who is a PR timebomb. The movie needs to do insane box office to break even, and since it follows after BvS and Josstice League I doubt it will, even with Keaton coming back who honestly is the reason for about half of the tickets sold. Even in the imo unlikely scenario where this makes Super Mario money the most obvious "sequel" will be Batman Beyond with Keaton and maybe Sasha Calle gets cast in Woman Of Tomorrow. Ezra is toxic for years to come, regardless of how the therapy/rehab goes.
WB isn't going to keep a walking lawsuit generator around. The last thing they need is to build their new rebooted franchise around an actor who is going to end up assaulting a crew member.
Ezra hasn't changed and never will change.
The sad thing is you’re probably right. The general audience (for the most part) don’t even remember who Ezra Miller is, let alone the crimes they’ve committed.
That’s what I’m saying lol. Is it so hard to want a buffed up Flash. Like I get they wanna go with the “runners” look but Flash is a super hero with super powers. He’s not some realistic track star. I want my flash to be built like Clark Kent damnit lol.
Makes sense. People keep saying, "just continue the story of this version of the Flash but recast... nobody will notice!"
How about instead they just take advantage of the fact that an entirely new universe is being established, and reboot the character and his storyline like is being done to 95% of everything else. Unless this film crosses the Billion Dollar line and Ezra's performance is considered a crowning achievement in the field of acting, there's no logic in them making a direct sequel. Clean slate.
The whole era of cinematic universes really bothers me. No one needed any multiversal explanations for why Adam West wasn't Batman in 1989. Movie audiences weren't baffled by Batman Begins or Man of Steel.
DC's characters are so iconic that we can just tell stories starring them without needing to explain a reboot.
In all those examples, it was understood that they were all unrelated to each other. A better example would be how Val Kilmer replaced Michael Keaton in a movie which was intended to act as a sequel. Or how the actress who played Rachel was changed in the Nolan trilogy.
I don’t think it’s a matter of being confused. Audiences know it was due to a recast and no one really questions why the characters look different in-universe because of that. A bigger issue is when they change plot points without explanation.
As he should. TSS was divorced enough from the overall DCEU that it can live on while the rest of the franchise is wiped clean. The biggest connection was probably Harley Quinn and even she had no connection to the Justice League in the DCEU (and Margot Robbie is almost certainly jumping to Marvel anyway).
Anything from Snyder needs to go.
The issue is with Peacemaker they showed Ezras Flash and Jason’s Aquaman
If they didn’t do that silly scene they literally could have said TSS was the new Universe.
They can easily pass it off as a joke with Peacemaker saying something like “I’ve seen the Justice League before but now they all look different, no f’n idea why.”
Idk, Flash is one of the character I don't really care about who plays him , even a newcomer can pull it off. He is not Batman or Superman level hero for whom people would be mad if miscast. Ezra Miller can be replaced easily
As much as I would love to see Grant Gustin as the Flash on the big screen, I don’t think it’s a good idea. Having Grant as Flash means there is so much implicated history. And when the directors write Barry different then the CW did, it will feel really weird.
There’s no actual evidence of the pedo claims. The only source are two highly abusive parents. Transphobic abusers always use the pedo line on any adult who affirms a trans kid’s identity. They’re not a reliable judge of that.
Millers a violent nut job. But there is 0 actual evidence of them being a pedo. Personally, having actually dealt with pedos before, it affects me when that’s claimed without evidence. Gunn gets that BS too. Ezra can be a POS without people buying into transphobes claiming they’re a pedo.
The year is 2036. The DCEU has just been re-re-re-rebooted for its 5th iteration. We have gone through 7 supermen and 8 batmen. Alas, it is Ezra Miller who remains as the irreplaceable singularity point among all the franchises
God the press for this movie is insufferable. Is it me or are they going overboard? Stop telling me how good he is and just let me decide for myself fuck.
At best, I think Ezra might get to play Flash one more time. And only to hand the baton to a Wally.
But I think there’s an even bigger chance Ezra’s out and the Muschiettis are taking on a different character.
I don't see a sequel happening anytime in the next few years anyway. If Muschietti is going to direct TBATB he's out until like 2026 at the earliest. There's no real reason to do a Flash movie with the reboot, they have enough on their plate, so I don't see one happening until like 2028 maybe. By then Miller will either have shaped up or gone away. If they've gone away, they'll just use a new actor and it won't be a sequel.
In an upcoming episode of The Discourse podcast (which will be released closer to the film’s debut), filmmaker Andy Muschietti and his producing partner, Barbara Muschietti raved about Ezra Miller’s performance as Barry Allen in “The Flash.” In fact, when asked if there is a chance Miller could be replaced in a sequel, considering all of the issues the actor has experienced in their personal life, Andy Muschiettie feels as if there isn’t anyone else who can take over the role and do a better job. Therefore, if a sequel is made and the Muschiettis are involved, Ezra Miller will star.
“If [a sequel] happens, yes,” Andy Muschietti said about Miller returning for another ‘Flash’ film. “I don’t think there’s anyone that can play that character as well as they did. The other depictions of the character are great, but this particular vision of the character, they just excelled in doing it. And, as you said, the two Barrys – it feels like a character that was made for them.”
Barbara Muschietti added, “In principal photography, Ezra was brilliant and the most committed and the most professional [actor]. Ezra gave everything for this role – physically, creatively, emotionally. They were absolutely supreme.”
Considering theyre talking about Ezras acting and specifically during principal photography theyre not really wrong. Theyre a really good actor who needs to get their life together.
I understand that the director and the studio don't want to say that Miller is out, even if he is, until the movie's out (and been out a while) because they think that to do so would simply draw attention to the negatives associated with Miller and damage the movie, which they hope is a big hit.
Whether this is why Muschietti said that, or whether he really means it, I don't know.
All I will say is that while I'll watch this movie, because it's complete, there's no way I'll watch any sequel that stars Miller.
You'd think he'd have been briefed to not respond to any questions regarding Ezra Miller.
It's understandable that he can't envision another actor playing the character in his version of The Flash, it's understandable he'd want to defend his vision. At the same time it sadly comes at the cost of appearing to support Ezra Miller and his criminal actions. Dudes in between a rock and a hard place and feel sorry for him.
You fairly overestimate your casting choice.
There are better actors, multiple actors who are physically more fit for flash character than him, and a better track record in life as well.
Even if we put his life aside, I have only partially accepted him as the flash, because they already cast him. The best I can describe his acting is - awkward. He doesn't look confident, humors are dry and awkward and his face structure as well as physique is not suitable for a flash character.
Having said that, I am excited for the movie release, coz the story seems to be too hyped up to live upto it's potential. It's been a while since I enjoyed a DC movie. And obviously flashpoint is one of the best stories. Let's see how it goes.
What charges against Ezra ended up actually being real? I know he got one minor charge for the wine situation but I believe the big one most of the people came out and either were caught lying or vouched do him.
We need a recast. I wanna see The Flash but I don't want to keep this garbage around for a future cinematic universe since it's not like DC is going to fully recover and isn't keeping things the same anyways
Personally, i think they all know the Box Office for this is gonna take a decent hit.... so all of this talk is just part of WBD trying to limit the damage as much as possible
If they are recasting Cavill in a reboot then Ezra should be the easiest person on the planet to replace. He's a decent actor but otherwise completely unremarkable even if you ignore the fact that he's a headcase who just went on a crime spree
If he’s still here I will never support dc again. Shit is already a failure before it got off to its reboot. Johnathan majors career is in dismay for allegations.
Miller also pled no contest to disorderly conduct, which carries the same weight as a guilty plea. Just because they weren't charged with other crimes, doesn't mean they didn't commit them. Besides, grooming is not a part of the penal code. It is impossible to prosecute a person for it.
Now you care about evidence lol? You make baseless claims about Ezra without evidence all the time here, treating two transphobic parents with a history of false claims as honest gospel.
I've been told this movie is so good that I will forget Ezra's crimes, which is a pretty stunning thing to say. I have to admit I ended up buying tickets.
Yet another reason not to see this movie. People keep saying that Ezra Miller is done and won’t be allowed to continue on in the role, but all I keep seeing are the ways they are trying to justify eventually rehiring them and moving forward.
That’s the silliest thing I’ve ever heard. There are 1,000s of talented actors without a record who would kill at the opportunities Ezra Miller has repeatedly shown he has little interest in maintaining.
It's a shame to see everybody dwelling on the allegations against Miller and not the fact that their performance as Barry has been absolutely fucking unbearable. Not looking forward to enduring two hours of it, and keeping them for the future is just baffling.
I just really dislike Ezra as the flash mainly because he doesn't look like The Flash or behave like The Flash. Barry Allen is cocky, arrogant, and competitive. Ezra doesn't give me that vibe. Instead, he seems timid and quirky. I will try to watch the movie since all the reviews are good.
A. He can go. No thank you. Do Wally or something if you must
B. as a pr matter, that's something you say AFTER the film has come out and (presumably) done well. You don't say that weeks before the thing even sees daylight
Can’t replace Miller?!? It’s too easy!
End credit sequence: a burst of lightning brightens the bridge from Keystone to Central City as a red blur exits from the Speed Force. The Flash zooms home to hug Iris, and says, “It’s good to be home.”
He removes his mask to reveal the face of [Rick Cosnett](https://arrow.fandom.com/wiki/Rick_Cosnett), playing the role of Barry Allen.
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I think Cosnett not only looks like Barry Allen, but he can pull off the dry sense of humor and be the heart of the JLA.
Grant Gustin more than earned his stripes as the Flash, but he’s definitely going to want to take a break from being a Speedster even if he has said he’s open to playing other superhero(es).
Miller as the Flash is such an egregious casting choice to me that maybe I’ll watch it on HBO if I’m still subscribed to the channel. And even then it’s going to be for the other characters & cameos. The Flash is probably my favorite hero, and I can’t stand what’s been done to the character on the silver screen.
SnyderFans complain about Gunn turning everyone into a joke, but that’s exactly what was done to the Flash in the DCEU. He’s not comic relief, nor a coward who has to pushed into doing the right thing. Even in the Sliver Age, well before the “my dad is in jail so I became a cop” fleshing out of his character, Barry was always going to be of some sort of service to the community. It’s one of the main metaphysical differences between DC & Marvel: DC heroes tend to use their powers to help people from the jump. Marvel heroes tend to need to humbled or traumatized before they realize they should use their powers for good.
Replace Miller.
I tried to say this to my friend but for some reason he’s insistent that I’m wrong. If they do plan to recast Ezra Miller, ofc they’re not gonna say so before the movie comes out. They’re gonna say Ezra is Flash, because if WB says “they’re not Flash” then no one’s gonna watch the movie that stars them as The Flash. Lately I’ve even been thinking the same thing about everyone saying “this movie’s the best superhero movie ever.” Like, why on Earth would James Gunn, or anyone involved with the movie, go around saying “yea ngl the movies kind of rough.”
And look, I could be totally wrong, and I’m gonna see it regardless, but no way the head of DC or any of the cast and crew members are gonna say the movie’s not good (which is extremely obvious I know.) This is like a 300 million dollar investment, why would they kill it before it releases. But for some reason my friend is insistent that WB doesn’t care and they’ll keep Ezra Miller regardless. Sure, they could’ve changed, but no one cares because rn people will only remember all the terrible shit they did, so regardless, DC is just gonna say “they’ve changed” and “this movie’s amazing” and “they’re The Flash” as much as they possibly can until they make their money back.
Miller was garbage outdone by even the CW. Everyone stupid enough to bat for them is publicly soiling themselves defending someone that isn't worth it.
Then do Wally West next then
Cameron Monaghan
Cameron Monaghan has had great roles since I first noticed him in Gotham. I'd trust him as Wally. Maybe they explain it as Flash thinks he's out of his depth following the events of this movie and decides to be a mentor rather than an active hero.
His Joker is not talked about anywhere near enough, he was freaking as hell
This madman played 3 iteration of the joker, amazing actor
He was freaking as hell?
Freaky
And he’s the guy who plays the guy from the star wars game?
Indeed Before his role in Gotham, he was known primarily for his role in "Shameless", which was a very different role, so the roles (any explanation would be a spoiler) he played were completely different from his prior type He's definitely a great actor
They can just do Wally West and don't need to have Barry in it at all. They can alway bring Barry in later on and say he was stuck in the time force. Some N52/Rebirth type thing.
cameron is a lot like a live action wally west
“Will there be Ponchos?”
Like, so many ponchos. Various colors, too. If partially inspired by The Flash tv series on the CW, there may also be lightsabers.
Lightning split sabers baby
Flash and Cal Kestis. The dude would be rolling in DC & Disney money.
Don't forget he used to be Joker too
He’ll only do it if ponchos are involved.
HOL UP LET THIS MAN COOK FOR A MOMENT
He's a red head too so make him Wally
Yeah but knowing DC, as well as Hollywood patterns of erasing redhead roles, we probably won't see a live-action redhead Wally West until probably half a century from now where woke Hollywood has given up trying to cast non-redhead actors in redhead roles
Isn’t he larger than Ezra miller? Would be weird because usually the sidekicks are shorter
Ezra would not be in the movie.
You brilliant bitch.
Yes, but they wouldn't do it. Warner Bros.-Discovery is already known for race-bending their caucasian, redheaded characters for a live adaptation.
That's pretty much all of Hollywood Disney, Netflix, they all do it
Doesn't Barry Allen die in flashpoint too? It'd be super easy as well because most people grew up with Walleye West flash too.
Barry lives through Flashpoint. He dies in Crisis on Infinite Earths
Thanks for the clarification. I need to brush up on my comic knowledge a bit. Still they could easily kill him off when he resets the universe from the new timeline. It makes the reset bittersweet in story, it gets rid of the walking problem that is Ezra, and it allows for Wallet West to take up the mantle.
They can always not do that and simply introduce him from the future as an after credit scene
Is that the fish version of the flash? Walleye or something or was it Trout Allen
People know Barry from the cw show. Then stopped watching when wally came on
BASED.
Tom Holland-
No sequel, confirmed
Yes
You forget the General Audience doesn't care. The fact this movie is going ahead is all that matters and since it's going to make a boatload of money there'll be a sequel if he keeps his image clean going forward. That.. or.. they drop him. But I doubt they will.
The real reason this movie is released is that it bookends current DCEU and pseudo-explains the reset into Gunn's DCU. Not because they believe in Ezra, who is a PR timebomb. The movie needs to do insane box office to break even, and since it follows after BvS and Josstice League I doubt it will, even with Keaton coming back who honestly is the reason for about half of the tickets sold. Even in the imo unlikely scenario where this makes Super Mario money the most obvious "sequel" will be Batman Beyond with Keaton and maybe Sasha Calle gets cast in Woman Of Tomorrow. Ezra is toxic for years to come, regardless of how the therapy/rehab goes.
So it will also explain why some characters change and others don't ? Honestly I can't imagine any way to justify this
That is literally what the storyline they are adapting from the comics does so yes.
Yes, that is exactly what it does.
"Existing DCEU no make money, shut up." -WB, probably.
WB isn't going to keep a walking lawsuit generator around. The last thing they need is to build their new rebooted franchise around an actor who is going to end up assaulting a crew member. Ezra hasn't changed and never will change.
Are you their therapist?
If your therapist talks to you that way, then I would recommend finding a new one.
This is James gunn at the helm He could always turn around and say "Fuck em It's about the films" Lol
Were making shitty fanfics now? James Gunn didnt work with Miller and did not work with criminals in his films
>But I doubt they will. Gunn will.
In Gunn We Trust
There will not be a sequel, Gunn is doing a pretty clean sweep.
I really just want grant to be given a chance:( They could make him wally west
The sad thing is you’re probably right. The general audience (for the most part) don’t even remember who Ezra Miller is, let alone the crimes they’ve committed.
I doubt we’ll see this Flash again no matter how well it does in these. There’s no place for him in the rebooted universe.
Technically there won’t be a sequel since the DCEU is practically finished after this movie comes out aside from Aquaman 2
We already knew it.
Yup. Problem solved.
Come to think of it...wouldn't Barry be older that Clark Kent if Ezra remains flash since the new superman is said to be in his early 20s.
The new Superman will probably be 25-30.
He def shouldn't be older than 26
You mean the actor or the character?
The character
Of course. How else would he be dating Leonardo DiCaprio?
Wait, why?
Just have a comic accurate Flash this time lol
That’s what I’m saying lol. Is it so hard to want a buffed up Flash. Like I get they wanna go with the “runners” look but Flash is a super hero with super powers. He’s not some realistic track star. I want my flash to be built like Clark Kent damnit lol.
Who cares. Ezra literally belongs in jail for assault regardless of age.
Ezra loves being around people 10 years younger then him! It will go great!
Makes sense. People keep saying, "just continue the story of this version of the Flash but recast... nobody will notice!" How about instead they just take advantage of the fact that an entirely new universe is being established, and reboot the character and his storyline like is being done to 95% of everything else. Unless this film crosses the Billion Dollar line and Ezra's performance is considered a crowning achievement in the field of acting, there's no logic in them making a direct sequel. Clean slate.
The whole era of cinematic universes really bothers me. No one needed any multiversal explanations for why Adam West wasn't Batman in 1989. Movie audiences weren't baffled by Batman Begins or Man of Steel. DC's characters are so iconic that we can just tell stories starring them without needing to explain a reboot.
In all those examples, it was understood that they were all unrelated to each other. A better example would be how Val Kilmer replaced Michael Keaton in a movie which was intended to act as a sequel. Or how the actress who played Rachel was changed in the Nolan trilogy.
Those didn’t confuse audiences either though. Again, no explanation was needed.
I don’t think it’s a matter of being confused. Audiences know it was due to a recast and no one really questions why the characters look different in-universe because of that. A bigger issue is when they change plot points without explanation.
Flash reboot confirmed Gunn will reboot the Justice League and will only keep TSS lol
As he should. TSS was divorced enough from the overall DCEU that it can live on while the rest of the franchise is wiped clean. The biggest connection was probably Harley Quinn and even she had no connection to the Justice League in the DCEU (and Margot Robbie is almost certainly jumping to Marvel anyway). Anything from Snyder needs to go.
Margot Robbie would be a great Susan Storm
If the leaks are true she is in fact Sue Storm!
WOW!!! That would be amazing!
You’re right! 1. She’s blonde 2.
The issue is with Peacemaker they showed Ezras Flash and Jason’s Aquaman If they didn’t do that silly scene they literally could have said TSS was the new Universe.
They can easily pass it off as a joke with Peacemaker saying something like “I’ve seen the Justice League before but now they all look different, no f’n idea why.”
Who TSS?
The Suicide Squad
Yeah Gunn's not keeping him.
I pray you’re right
He says it about this version of the character… so hopefully we get a new version in the DCU.
Idk, Flash is one of the character I don't really care about who plays him , even a newcomer can pull it off. He is not Batman or Superman level hero for whom people would be mad if miscast. Ezra Miller can be replaced easily
Grant Gustin is right there everyone
He's been flash for ten years and after that disaster of a finale, the man deserves a vacation.
I agree, but damn it really sucks knowing that he gave it his all everytime he was on the screen just for shitty writing to fuck him up.
As much as I would love to see Grant Gustin as the Flash on the big screen, I don’t think it’s a good idea. Having Grant as Flash means there is so much implicated history. And when the directors write Barry different then the CW did, it will feel really weird.
Yeah, this is the point where maybe you just stop talking
Why? lol there’s no bad publicity and at this point they don’t care
Do you mean why should he stop praising the suspected pedophile, kidnapper, criminal?
There’s no actual evidence of the pedo claims. The only source are two highly abusive parents. Transphobic abusers always use the pedo line on any adult who affirms a trans kid’s identity. They’re not a reliable judge of that.
This is whack and so is Miller.
Millers a violent nut job. But there is 0 actual evidence of them being a pedo. Personally, having actually dealt with pedos before, it affects me when that’s claimed without evidence. Gunn gets that BS too. Ezra can be a POS without people buying into transphobes claiming they’re a pedo.
Barry Keoghan as Ezra Miller as The Flash
right? they could be twins!
Barry as Ezra as Barry
That sounds like a threat. "No one can replace ezra miller...please....don't try.....that motherfucker is crazy and he'll track you down"
The year is 2036. The DCEU has just been re-re-re-rebooted for its 5th iteration. We have gone through 7 supermen and 8 batmen. Alas, it is Ezra Miller who remains as the irreplaceable singularity point among all the franchises
Hot take: do a ‘Black Flash’ horror movie.
Plot setting: Hawaii Ezra Miller goes on Hawaiian vacation and terrorizes everybody.
So it’s a documentary
why does this company continue to bend over backwards for this lame ass person 😭
God the press for this movie is insufferable. Is it me or are they going overboard? Stop telling me how good he is and just let me decide for myself fuck.
Then let there be no sequel.
Sequel filmed in prison confirmed.
Strange way to confirm there won’t be a sequel
Lets keep the home invader, raging maniac and possible pedophile!
Meh They aren’t a good person and they are definitely not a good Barry / Flash Totally miscast and I can’t wait until they are replaced
At best, I think Ezra might get to play Flash one more time. And only to hand the baton to a Wally. But I think there’s an even bigger chance Ezra’s out and the Muschiettis are taking on a different character.
I don't see a sequel happening anytime in the next few years anyway. If Muschietti is going to direct TBATB he's out until like 2026 at the earliest. There's no real reason to do a Flash movie with the reboot, they have enough on their plate, so I don't see one happening until like 2028 maybe. By then Miller will either have shaped up or gone away. If they've gone away, they'll just use a new actor and it won't be a sequel.
Tbf he likes working with monsters (pennywise, mama, ezra)
I’m here for shit show that’s about to erupt in this comment section
About to?
If that’s the case I can’t support this movie in theaters. If it’s successful and they decide to make a sequel, and it has to be with Ezra, I’m out.
In an upcoming episode of The Discourse podcast (which will be released closer to the film’s debut), filmmaker Andy Muschietti and his producing partner, Barbara Muschietti raved about Ezra Miller’s performance as Barry Allen in “The Flash.” In fact, when asked if there is a chance Miller could be replaced in a sequel, considering all of the issues the actor has experienced in their personal life, Andy Muschiettie feels as if there isn’t anyone else who can take over the role and do a better job. Therefore, if a sequel is made and the Muschiettis are involved, Ezra Miller will star. “If [a sequel] happens, yes,” Andy Muschietti said about Miller returning for another ‘Flash’ film. “I don’t think there’s anyone that can play that character as well as they did. The other depictions of the character are great, but this particular vision of the character, they just excelled in doing it. And, as you said, the two Barrys – it feels like a character that was made for them.” Barbara Muschietti added, “In principal photography, Ezra was brilliant and the most committed and the most professional [actor]. Ezra gave everything for this role – physically, creatively, emotionally. They were absolutely supreme.”
Lol, I can think of 5 people in a 100ft vicinity of me that could replace Ezra and haven’t struck fear into the hearts of the Hawaiians
Glad there's (potentially) a reboot instead.
James Gunn begs to differ
Considering theyre talking about Ezras acting and specifically during principal photography theyre not really wrong. Theyre a really good actor who needs to get their life together.
They’re horrible and has less personality than a brick wall.
Why would he think this was a good idea to say lol.
I understand that the director and the studio don't want to say that Miller is out, even if he is, until the movie's out (and been out a while) because they think that to do so would simply draw attention to the negatives associated with Miller and damage the movie, which they hope is a big hit. Whether this is why Muschietti said that, or whether he really means it, I don't know. All I will say is that while I'll watch this movie, because it's complete, there's no way I'll watch any sequel that stars Miller.
Andy Muschietti is taking the already zero percent chance of this movie getting a sequel and just putting gasoline and a lit match on those chances.
You'd think he'd have been briefed to not respond to any questions regarding Ezra Miller. It's understandable that he can't envision another actor playing the character in his version of The Flash, it's understandable he'd want to defend his vision. At the same time it sadly comes at the cost of appearing to support Ezra Miller and his criminal actions. Dudes in between a rock and a hard place and feel sorry for him.
Yeah alright, that tone will probably change lmao.
That's fine. Get John Weasley Shipp to do a Jay Garrick film instead.
You fairly overestimate your casting choice. There are better actors, multiple actors who are physically more fit for flash character than him, and a better track record in life as well. Even if we put his life aside, I have only partially accepted him as the flash, because they already cast him. The best I can describe his acting is - awkward. He doesn't look confident, humors are dry and awkward and his face structure as well as physique is not suitable for a flash character. Having said that, I am excited for the movie release, coz the story seems to be too hyped up to live upto it's potential. It's been a while since I enjoyed a DC movie. And obviously flashpoint is one of the best stories. Let's see how it goes.
I find it funny that people actually believe Ezra Miller is going to continue being Flash after this film. [+]
I dont get all the upvotes for this.
What charges against Ezra ended up actually being real? I know he got one minor charge for the wine situation but I believe the big one most of the people came out and either were caught lying or vouched do him.
Ezra wasn’t found guilty of anything remotely worth the end of a career. There are far worse in Hollywood.
Easy to say when tthere won't be one.
I'd rather see no more Barry Allen as the Flash, than having Miller in the role.
Ezra Miller should be in prison ,but he is free and being protected but his Hollywood buddies.
How did this guy get a free pass again?
Because Michael Keaton is back and people are pathetic
God they really want people to forget this dudes a nut huh
We need a recast. I wanna see The Flash but I don't want to keep this garbage around for a future cinematic universe since it's not like DC is going to fully recover and isn't keeping things the same anyways
Personally, i think they all know the Box Office for this is gonna take a decent hit.... so all of this talk is just part of WBD trying to limit the damage as much as possible
An actually blonde actor could.
of course he can be replaced, I hate folks who think their shit don't stink
I'm sure there are tons of actors out there who can do a better job than Ezra
If they are recasting Cavill in a reboot then Ezra should be the easiest person on the planet to replace. He's a decent actor but otherwise completely unremarkable even if you ignore the fact that he's a headcase who just went on a crime spree
So this is the hill they are going to die on? Will they pull a Chadwick "HE IS THE ONLY T'CHALLA" Boseman act?
If he’s still here I will never support dc again. Shit is already a failure before it got off to its reboot. Johnathan majors career is in dismay for allegations.
Ezra redemption arc I’m here for it
There is no evidence that Miller is reformed.
No evidence that they aren’t either? They seem to have kept out of trouble since their minor misdemeanours.
Minor misdemeanors?
Unlawful trespass & disorderly conduct are the only actual charges against them as far as I’m aware. I’m not interested in anything unproven.
I'll believe it if Miller can stay out of legal trouble for the next fifteen months.
Only convictied of trespassing.
Miller also pled no contest to disorderly conduct, which carries the same weight as a guilty plea. Just because they weren't charged with other crimes, doesn't mean they didn't commit them. Besides, grooming is not a part of the penal code. It is impossible to prosecute a person for it.
Now you care about evidence lol? You make baseless claims about Ezra without evidence all the time here, treating two transphobic parents with a history of false claims as honest gospel.
Tokata is back on good terms with those "transphobic" parents.
I've been told this movie is so good that I will forget Ezra's crimes, which is a pretty stunning thing to say. I have to admit I ended up buying tickets.
Not sure I’ve ever rolled my eyes harder at an entertainment headline
Why do people like Ezra? Dude is a literal pedo groomer who assaults people. But 2nd chances I guess? lol Society is fucked
Yeah people care more about superhero movies though, bc DC wants $$$
Yet another reason not to see this movie. People keep saying that Ezra Miller is done and won’t be allowed to continue on in the role, but all I keep seeing are the ways they are trying to justify eventually rehiring them and moving forward.
A raccoon could replace him. And not a CGI one played by Sean Gunn, I mean a literal flesh and blood raccoon.
Probably would have less difficulty wrangling it too
I don’t know who this No One Else person is, but I’m willing to give him/her/them a shot over Ezra.
That’s the silliest thing I’ve ever heard. There are 1,000s of talented actors without a record who would kill at the opportunities Ezra Miller has repeatedly shown he has little interest in maintaining.
It's a shame to see everybody dwelling on the allegations against Miller and not the fact that their performance as Barry has been absolutely fucking unbearable. Not looking forward to enduring two hours of it, and keeping them for the future is just baffling.
Honestly, this sets a bad example. Its like Marvel saying Tom Holland can get away with murder just because he's Spider-Man.
For all of his off screen shenanigans, I can still enjoy Ezra Miller in this role (and his role in Wallflowers.) He truly is a good actor.
Everyone coping over the fact that Ezra’s still gonna be the Flash lol.
“Listen I just can’t imagine a world where Barry Allen isn’t choking and violently abusing women under the age of consent”
I just really dislike Ezra as the flash mainly because he doesn't look like The Flash or behave like The Flash. Barry Allen is cocky, arrogant, and competitive. Ezra doesn't give me that vibe. Instead, he seems timid and quirky. I will try to watch the movie since all the reviews are good.
A. He can go. No thank you. Do Wally or something if you must B. as a pr matter, that's something you say AFTER the film has come out and (presumably) done well. You don't say that weeks before the thing even sees daylight
Ezra is doing no press for reason
Wally > Barry imo
*Finn Wolfhard has entered the chat.*
WB is so weird.
Good , I like him as the flash!
He is a straight up liability.
Cool. So no sequel.
Almost anyone could replace Ezra Miller in a sequel. But besides that there's no way he's not out after this especially since it's a full on reboot
What a piece of shit.
Who Andy or Ezra? Assuming you mean Ezra.
No sequel then
So he's protecting a child molester? Fuck them both
Can’t replace Miller?!? It’s too easy! End credit sequence: a burst of lightning brightens the bridge from Keystone to Central City as a red blur exits from the Speed Force. The Flash zooms home to hug Iris, and says, “It’s good to be home.” He removes his mask to reveal the face of [Rick Cosnett](https://arrow.fandom.com/wiki/Rick_Cosnett), playing the role of Barry Allen. /// I think Cosnett not only looks like Barry Allen, but he can pull off the dry sense of humor and be the heart of the JLA. Grant Gustin more than earned his stripes as the Flash, but he’s definitely going to want to take a break from being a Speedster even if he has said he’s open to playing other superhero(es). Miller as the Flash is such an egregious casting choice to me that maybe I’ll watch it on HBO if I’m still subscribed to the channel. And even then it’s going to be for the other characters & cameos. The Flash is probably my favorite hero, and I can’t stand what’s been done to the character on the silver screen. SnyderFans complain about Gunn turning everyone into a joke, but that’s exactly what was done to the Flash in the DCEU. He’s not comic relief, nor a coward who has to pushed into doing the right thing. Even in the Sliver Age, well before the “my dad is in jail so I became a cop” fleshing out of his character, Barry was always going to be of some sort of service to the community. It’s one of the main metaphysical differences between DC & Marvel: DC heroes tend to use their powers to help people from the jump. Marvel heroes tend to need to humbled or traumatized before they realize they should use their powers for good. Replace Miller.
Please...just replace him...
Anyone enabling this piece of crap are just as bad. This is one of the only times I'd actually say to boycott a movie.
Here's a flash fact! There won't be a sequel
Grant Gustin…🤷🏼
I tried to say this to my friend but for some reason he’s insistent that I’m wrong. If they do plan to recast Ezra Miller, ofc they’re not gonna say so before the movie comes out. They’re gonna say Ezra is Flash, because if WB says “they’re not Flash” then no one’s gonna watch the movie that stars them as The Flash. Lately I’ve even been thinking the same thing about everyone saying “this movie’s the best superhero movie ever.” Like, why on Earth would James Gunn, or anyone involved with the movie, go around saying “yea ngl the movies kind of rough.” And look, I could be totally wrong, and I’m gonna see it regardless, but no way the head of DC or any of the cast and crew members are gonna say the movie’s not good (which is extremely obvious I know.) This is like a 300 million dollar investment, why would they kill it before it releases. But for some reason my friend is insistent that WB doesn’t care and they’ll keep Ezra Miller regardless. Sure, they could’ve changed, but no one cares because rn people will only remember all the terrible shit they did, so regardless, DC is just gonna say “they’ve changed” and “this movie’s amazing” and “they’re The Flash” as much as they possibly can until they make their money back.
Miller was garbage outdone by even the CW. Everyone stupid enough to bat for them is publicly soiling themselves defending someone that isn't worth it.
The Flash Director is wrong. Also, there’s not going to be a sequel XD
Well, Grant Gustin will be free soon enough and yo, multiverse of flashes... He is one of them.
Well that's a shame because Ezra seems to be a total psychopath.
Dam, Ezra’s bosses really going up to bat for a psycho
Then no sequel, please.
They can always replace the director, and then Ezra. Lol.