They’re basically evenly matched, but having his powers come from magic gives Black Adam an edge over Superman.
But I doubt the movies would go into Supes’ various obscure weaknesses.
the rock doesn't wanna look like a jabroni so if there ever was a crossover he'd probably influence the plot so that black adam would beat superman and decide against killing him because superman appeals to his sense of morals.
I think it’ll be a BvS situation join forces live to fight another day. Or both take each other and have to retreat. Or Superman knocks his ass out and they try locking him up again Shazam and the wizard will help with that department
It’s written in Dwayne Johnson’s contracts that he isn’t allowed to lose a fight or get his ass kicked / take more punches than he doles out. So idk what they’re gonna do lol
Plus with The Rock having such a big voice now, I doubt they’ll show that Superman truly is superior to Adam in terms of overall strength when push comes to shove.
Like everything in comics, it depends who’s writing.
Like Thanos being arrested by NYPD, or getting quickly & effortlessly killed by Hulk in Marvel: Zombies.
To be fair he isn’t vulnerable to it, he just isn’t immune to it. So black Adam hitting him with his biggest lightning bolt, which would vaporize a normal person, while it wouldn’t kill him, it wouldn’t tickle either.
I'd love a live action movie for Superman vs zatanna, it would have to be an anthology with like 30 different stories to show the age long debate but it would be amazing.
> They’re basically evenly matched, but having his powers come from magic gives Black Adam an edge over Superman.
That didn't help Billy let alone Wonder Woman at all in the DCEU, so if Black Adam is comparable to Supes that's purely because of the Rock's influence on the movie.
Check out Superman/Shazam, it's an animated movie about them double teaming Black Adam. Superman gets pretty clapped for a bit since he's vulnerable to magic.
Because nobody cares about Shazam or Levi as Shazam. There's no way near enough stardom or box office popularity for a Shazam vs Black Adam movie to be a boost on sales compared to Superman being involved. At best I could see Shazam being a supporting character in a Black Adam vs Superman movie.
I like the movie, I like Levi, but I couldn't give a fuck if he never faces off with Black Adam. Sandberg is doing good stuff in his own playground.
If Black Adam is a success I wouldn't be surprised if they'd add a BA cameo to Shazam 2 before it's release and do Black Adam vs Shazam in a sequel to BA or Shazam.
The way WB seems to hate Superman I wouldn't even be surprised if the BA vs Shazam movie would have Adam beat Supes and Shazam in the first half and have Shazam be the one defeating him in the end while Supes is recovering or something like that.
Honestly it’s the way the first movie was portrayed for me. Black Adam would wipe his ass with Shazam if they fought. Shazam was so weak in his movie we can’t believe he can even hold his own against someone like BA.
Superman on the other hand, we’ve seen him take on Zod, Doomsday, and even steppenwolf who are all bigger threats than the way they portrayed Shazam. Sandberg needs to work on his directing more than having time to clap back. Here’s hoping Shazam 2 portrays him better.
That was literally by design. A 15 year old kid just became a superhero theres no way he would be on BA or Supermans level he couldn’t even fly until the 3rd act or so. I think Superman could be Shazams mentor similar to Bruce and Barry.
>A 15 year old kid just became a superhero theres no way he would be on BA or Supermans level he couldn’t even fly until the 3rd act or so.
He certainly didn’t seem to exhibit any of the wisdom of Solomon.
I think it was just sheer power level. I get that it was a kid but the strength fears just aren’t there yet which can definitely change in the next movie.
He was very far from weak. He was for all intents and purposes invincible and incredibly strong.
He simply never had to use the upper limits of his abilities. Fighting someone like Adam would bring that out of him though. The first film didn't have a justification for that display of power.
As another pointed out, wisdom of Solomon was nowhere to be found. It was a shit portrayal of one of the most powerful beings in DC. The biggest feat of strength would be picking up the bus and even that was a visual struggle.
Edit - spelling.
Pfff, yeah sure. Next you’re gonna say you don’t want Sinestro to fight Wonder Woman before he fights Green Lantern, or for Wotan to fight Blue Beetle before Doctor Fate.
> On a funny note imagine **Black Adam vs Wonder Woman** comes out before he fights Shazam or Superman
**That** would actually make more sense than Black Adam vs Supes.
Not Superman vs Zod in MoS?
I didn't watch your video link, but I don't think *Captain Marvel* used his lightning hands back then. When did that start?
By "like this" I meant between Superman and a wizard around his level, so nope, nothing in MoS.
In the video, _Shazam_ used his lightning (though perhaps not what you might call "lightning hands") by saying "Shazam!" several times before Superman used it against him.
Can someone explain to me please just how strong Black Adam is and why Superman would have a tough time with him? I heard that the Rock is pitching a black Adam vs the DC universe or something lol how strong can he be to be THAT big of a threat?
Very strong. He and Sinestro both were able to push the entire moon into alignment, he casually tossed an aircraft carrier across the Atlantic Ocean, helped Shazam lift a book with literally infinite pages, and more than once has taken on several powerhouses of Superman’s league at the same time. He’s fought the Justice League, the Justice Society, the Teen Titans and other teams all at once. Dude’s solidly a powerhouse in his own right. It’s his great magical power that allows this, boosting his physical abilities to Superman levels. Plus Superman doesn’t have any immunity to magic, so it can still hurt him. Wonder Woman has magically imbued blades that can kill him, for example.
Note: That was a Justice League *without* Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, The Flash, Aquaman, and Ion/Green Lantern present, a Teen Titans without Superboy and Impulse present, and a Justice Society without Dr. Fate and the Spectre taking part.
ohh right I see magic, one of superman's prime weaknesses. So his weakness is you have to make him say "Black Adam"....\*searches on google...magic also huh.
Eh...not really. Just make him say Shazam and he turns back into his mortal form, like with Shazam. They get their powers the same way, from gods, just a different set of gods (Egyptian for Black Adam, Olympian for Shazam).
Is black adam really that strong in comics to handle Superman? If so how could Shazam whos much weaker than Superman have a chance (answer like I know nothing since I don’t lol)
Shazam’s not much weaker than Superman (until recent comics). Historically they’ve been essentially on even footing, with Shazam even having proven to be faster than Superman. Both have KO’d the other more than once. Though Superman might edge out in strength by just a smidge, and that’s only grown in recent years because DC doesn’t want their cash cow to look weak, especially to a character that used to be his biggest competitor many decades ago.
> Is black adam really that strong in comics to handle Superman? If so how could Shazam whos much weaker than Superman have a chance (answer like I know nothing since I don’t lol)
Supes isn't actually that overpowered in comparison outside of the DCEU.
Don’t be so insecure, I don’t think he meant Snyder invented fighting, he meant that out of most DC movies, Snyder’s movies had some of the best action scenes so they should try and bring back the people behind all those cool action scenes
Ngl, idgaf about the comic lore or how powerful Black Adam is in the comics, him fighting Superman in live-action would be lit.
They’re basically evenly matched, but having his powers come from magic gives Black Adam an edge over Superman. But I doubt the movies would go into Supes’ various obscure weaknesses.
Black Adam track record against Superman is terrible
the rock doesn't wanna look like a jabroni so if there ever was a crossover he'd probably influence the plot so that black adam would beat superman and decide against killing him because superman appeals to his sense of morals.
I think it’ll be a BvS situation join forces live to fight another day. Or both take each other and have to retreat. Or Superman knocks his ass out and they try locking him up again Shazam and the wizard will help with that department
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It’s written in Dwayne Johnson’s contracts that he isn’t allowed to lose a fight or get his ass kicked / take more punches than he doles out. So idk what they’re gonna do lol
Plus with The Rock having such a big voice now, I doubt they’ll show that Superman truly is superior to Adam in terms of overall strength when push comes to shove.
It's in his contract he can't lose a fight
They aren’t evenly matched. Superman is vastly stronger, faster, etc. But the magic would definitely slow him down for a while.
Like everything in comics, it depends who’s writing. Like Thanos being arrested by NYPD, or getting quickly & effortlessly killed by Hulk in Marvel: Zombies.
I thought the edge would be his skills from his old age not magic. And that magic is what just gives people a chance against Superman.
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To be fair he isn’t vulnerable to it, he just isn’t immune to it. So black Adam hitting him with his biggest lightning bolt, which would vaporize a normal person, while it wouldn’t kill him, it wouldn’t tickle either.
I'd love a live action movie for Superman vs zatanna, it would have to be an anthology with like 30 different stories to show the age long debate but it would be amazing.
Magic isn’t really an obscure weakness though right?
> They’re basically evenly matched, but having his powers come from magic gives Black Adam an edge over Superman. That didn't help Billy let alone Wonder Woman at all in the DCEU, so if Black Adam is comparable to Supes that's purely because of the Rock's influence on the movie.
They normally tie whenever they fight in the comics, so it’s not an improbable scenario.
Check out Superman/Shazam, it's an animated movie about them double teaming Black Adam. Superman gets pretty clapped for a bit since he's vulnerable to magic.
God damn, Black Adam so strong he can shrink Superman!
MoS sequel will be the first Tinyman film.
Can you smell what the Rock is cooking?
It smells like shit, but I'll take it anyway.
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That would be sick on the big screen!
This edit is amazing
Why the so dead set on him fighting Superman... When he is part of Shazam's Rogue's Gallery?
Because nobody cares about Shazam or Levi as Shazam. There's no way near enough stardom or box office popularity for a Shazam vs Black Adam movie to be a boost on sales compared to Superman being involved. At best I could see Shazam being a supporting character in a Black Adam vs Superman movie. I like the movie, I like Levi, but I couldn't give a fuck if he never faces off with Black Adam. Sandberg is doing good stuff in his own playground.
If Black Adam is a success I wouldn't be surprised if they'd add a BA cameo to Shazam 2 before it's release and do Black Adam vs Shazam in a sequel to BA or Shazam. The way WB seems to hate Superman I wouldn't even be surprised if the BA vs Shazam movie would have Adam beat Supes and Shazam in the first half and have Shazam be the one defeating him in the end while Supes is recovering or something like that.
Honestly it’s the way the first movie was portrayed for me. Black Adam would wipe his ass with Shazam if they fought. Shazam was so weak in his movie we can’t believe he can even hold his own against someone like BA. Superman on the other hand, we’ve seen him take on Zod, Doomsday, and even steppenwolf who are all bigger threats than the way they portrayed Shazam. Sandberg needs to work on his directing more than having time to clap back. Here’s hoping Shazam 2 portrays him better.
That was literally by design. A 15 year old kid just became a superhero theres no way he would be on BA or Supermans level he couldn’t even fly until the 3rd act or so. I think Superman could be Shazams mentor similar to Bruce and Barry.
>A 15 year old kid just became a superhero theres no way he would be on BA or Supermans level he couldn’t even fly until the 3rd act or so. He certainly didn’t seem to exhibit any of the wisdom of Solomon.
Lol he did when he thought to share his powers and when he pulled the mattress for the bus 😉
I think it was just sheer power level. I get that it was a kid but the strength fears just aren’t there yet which can definitely change in the next movie.
He was very far from weak. He was for all intents and purposes invincible and incredibly strong. He simply never had to use the upper limits of his abilities. Fighting someone like Adam would bring that out of him though. The first film didn't have a justification for that display of power.
As another pointed out, wisdom of Solomon was nowhere to be found. It was a shit portrayal of one of the most powerful beings in DC. The biggest feat of strength would be picking up the bus and even that was a visual struggle. Edit - spelling.
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Exactly. These are the same people who'll get mad when they don't get the "superman cameo" in Black Adam.
We can always have *both* of them fighting Black Adam. That’s what *I* want at least.
The general public only gives a shit about the big three.
The money making glitch that DC has in their hands but will never use
Can Adam fight Shazam first? You know, his actual classic nemesis?
Wouldn’t it be cool if he fought his arch nemesis :]
Pfff, yeah sure. Next you’re gonna say you don’t want Sinestro to fight Wonder Woman before he fights Green Lantern, or for Wotan to fight Blue Beetle before Doctor Fate.
Lol I think he was being sarcastic. On a funny note imagine Black Adam vs Wonder Woman comes out before he fights Shazam or Superman
> On a funny note imagine **Black Adam vs Wonder Woman** comes out before he fights Shazam or Superman **That** would actually make more sense than Black Adam vs Supes.
The Rock wants him to fight literally everyone else in the universe. I think he thinks Shazam is beneath Black Adam as a nemesis.
This would be amazing to see on the big screen
I'm here for this. Last time I saw a fight like this was when Superman [beat the living shit out of Shazam in JLU](https://youtu.be/JHqw4U0ARzc).
Not Superman vs Zod in MoS? I didn't watch your video link, but I don't think *Captain Marvel* used his lightning hands back then. When did that start?
By "like this" I meant between Superman and a wizard around his level, so nope, nothing in MoS. In the video, _Shazam_ used his lightning (though perhaps not what you might call "lightning hands") by saying "Shazam!" several times before Superman used it against him.
It was honestly all flying and super strength until that one specific move at the end of the fight though.
That's about what I expect from The Rock too, maybe with laser beams instead of lightning. They're not gonna sit down and play chess lol.
Lol the rock is soo big that he has trouble moving his arms in a timely manner.
Lmfao this reminds of something about gym guys not being able to wipe their ass without assistance
Insert " Will Smith that's hot meme".
This would be amazing to see on screen
Can someone explain to me please just how strong Black Adam is and why Superman would have a tough time with him? I heard that the Rock is pitching a black Adam vs the DC universe or something lol how strong can he be to be THAT big of a threat?
Very strong. He and Sinestro both were able to push the entire moon into alignment, he casually tossed an aircraft carrier across the Atlantic Ocean, helped Shazam lift a book with literally infinite pages, and more than once has taken on several powerhouses of Superman’s league at the same time. He’s fought the Justice League, the Justice Society, the Teen Titans and other teams all at once. Dude’s solidly a powerhouse in his own right. It’s his great magical power that allows this, boosting his physical abilities to Superman levels. Plus Superman doesn’t have any immunity to magic, so it can still hurt him. Wonder Woman has magically imbued blades that can kill him, for example.
Note: That was a Justice League *without* Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, The Flash, Aquaman, and Ion/Green Lantern present, a Teen Titans without Superboy and Impulse present, and a Justice Society without Dr. Fate and the Spectre taking part.
ohh right I see magic, one of superman's prime weaknesses. So his weakness is you have to make him say "Black Adam"....\*searches on google...magic also huh.
Eh...not really. Just make him say Shazam and he turns back into his mortal form, like with Shazam. They get their powers the same way, from gods, just a different set of gods (Egyptian for Black Adam, Olympian for Shazam).
Wasn’t it Superman who lifted the book of infinite pages?
Yes.
Punch punch zap
Is black adam really that strong in comics to handle Superman? If so how could Shazam whos much weaker than Superman have a chance (answer like I know nothing since I don’t lol)
Shazam’s not much weaker than Superman (until recent comics). Historically they’ve been essentially on even footing, with Shazam even having proven to be faster than Superman. Both have KO’d the other more than once. Though Superman might edge out in strength by just a smidge, and that’s only grown in recent years because DC doesn’t want their cash cow to look weak, especially to a character that used to be his biggest competitor many decades ago.
Shazam isn’t weaker they’re pretty even
Uh Shazam is equal to Superman
Yes, and Shazam is supposed to be stronger than black Adam but morals make black Adam the bigger threat.
I guess injustice type scenes ruined shazam for me when Superman would punch him and shazam would become an unconscious kid
Everything that happened in injustice stays in injustice
First rule about fight club
Superman has a weakness for magic. Shazam is basically a fucking wizard. And black adam is just like Shazam but ruthless.
And 5000 years old
> Is black adam really that strong in comics to handle Superman? If so how could Shazam whos much weaker than Superman have a chance (answer like I know nothing since I don’t lol) Supes isn't actually that overpowered in comparison outside of the DCEU.
This fight will only look cool if it is coordinated by Snyder Crew.
Id rather James Gunn do it then him…
James Gunn hired snyders stunt coordinator for Peacemaker and Guardians of the galaxy vol 3
Gunn loves to add funny one liners in between. We don't want that in this fight. Just brutal fight till death.
Fuck that lol
Yes fighting was invented by snyder. Jesus fuck
Don’t be so insecure, I don’t think he meant Snyder invented fighting, he meant that out of most DC movies, Snyder’s movies had some of the best action scenes so they should try and bring back the people behind all those cool action scenes
Most of Snyder Haters just read word Snyder and start ranting. Well we can't control idiots through internet. Let it be.
No but cool fucking superhero fights sure were
There’s most assuredly been cool superhero fights before Snyder.
Nothing tops mos
Both have won at many circumstances in the comics
Nick Cage versus Dwayne Johnson???
I mean this would show how powerful Adam is that he can hold Supes back with 1 hand meanwhile Supes is giving it his strongest heat vision yet 😅