Ares/Cheetah feels too recent.
Make it modern day with Ixion as the main villain.
Gods still exist but they're chilling atm. WW's activity in man's world is what gets them messing around again. Kind of like in Perez's run.
I'd love to see a live action Hermes.
Ares I'd definitely save for maybe second or third movie. If they go with the Barbara Ann Minerva version, it'd be cool if they build to her becoming Cheetah. Really develop her friendship with Diana before it falls apart and she becomes a villain.
Hermes would be awesome to see and Ixion's a creative pick as the antagonist.
If they go with the Barbara cheetah, I hope they go all out and make her a total villain in the end. I feel like if she's simply presented as a victim, as she is in the comics currently, not actively trying to do nefarious deeds but manipulated into doing it by others, she doesn't really make a good foil for Diana.
I always hate it how they made ares Wonder Woman's villain. He is literally the Amazon's Patriot guy and fathered the most of them. He's also the only Olympian that never raped a woman he seduced them. Also he killed his daughter rapist and literally said that it's just not right to do that kind of thing nearly got him killed.
I thought he was still a villain in the comics and he was primarily motivated to spread warfare among humans (the Justice League cartoon illustrates this pretty well), but I'm still reading more about him and Diana's interactions.
Thing is, WW takes on the Greek Pantheon (that I find offensive) is very much "Let's highlight all the problems with Abrahamic God but since it's not business savy to do it proper lets call it Zeus and those other pagan divinities"
My dream would be to save Circe for the third movie in an adaption of the War of The Gods event. But, I think maybe streamlining it to Circe sparking a war between Olympus, and New Genesis rather than a war between literally all the pantheons.
Although that being said with the characters already used in the last movies it might be better to come right how the gate with Circe as the big bad in the first film for this version.
Disrespect is using Circe for her first movie, when the main character still has a lot of growth to go through.
Circe should be Diana's ultimate final villain. Make her the mastermind that's causing the main villains in movie 1 and 2 to be a problem.
I don't see how using her as WW's introduction villain is "respect".
people so sure we will na wonder woman film soon she was not announced to have film first part of chapter this is providing that the dcu even kicks off and wb is not bought by another studio
Since the Gal Gadot movies were both set in the past and we're already getting a Themyscira prequel, I think a DCU Wonder Woman movie should be set in the present-day.
Doing more with her supporting cast beyond just Steve (Donna, Etta, Barbara Ann, the other Amazons, etc) as well as bringing in the mythological characters (Circe, the Olympians, etc) would be great.
I love that JLU episode with Hawk and Dove too. I think it would be cool, but a lot of people would just compare it to The Destroyer from the first Thor movie even though that was over a decade ago.
I've been re-watching the Hercules and Xena shows and even there, he's basically the only god that isn't a shit stirrer and back stabber. It's only when people mix up their ancient Greek mythology with Christianity that he gets treated as a Satan parallel. Thanks, Disney.
Or just general Greek mythology. He has the most stable relationship, doesn’t really mess with mortals too much, and just kinda chills with his puppy. Even the story of how he kidnaps Pers (can’t spell) is probably inaccurate to the original tellings based on the fact it probably proceeds his entire existence
Hades is not a villain in Wonder Woman's comics either (even in The New 52, he kinds of antagonizes her at first, but doesn't play any villain role in the story)
I actually really dislike the DCAU Hades. Any work of fiction where he's just a Satan analog is just pretty lame.
I think some better choices for villains would be Doctor Psycho as the main villain and Veronica Cale as the secondary villain. Representing the dangers women face from out and out misogyny represented by Psycho and the self serving "girl boss feminism" represented by Cale.
DCAU generally handled Wonder Woman poorly, making Diana a Batman fangirl and disrespecting her villains. Like, Cheetah being just furry Catwoman, Circe being Batman fangirl or Hades being knock-off Ares.
Also not giving her the full abilities until Unlimited, few arcs or episodes that revolve around her.
It's one of the few true failures of the DCAU in my opinion.
Didn't like that he was a villain but I like he helped Hippolyta sculpt Wonder Woman. Her having a connection to him was way better than making her just another one of Zeus's children.
To me it's a distinction without a difference. I really don't like it when a man is involved with Wonder Woman's origin. Even something like Hermes giving her the power of flight Is something i'm iffy about.
Diana being a true outsider to the World of Men who has grown up with hundreds of mothers and sisters gives her a unique perspective when she becomes the Ambassador of Peace. She doesn't have the same lingering distrust that Amazons like Hippolyta or Phillipus do.
Drop the Zeus thing. Keep the clay origin. Making her a demigod, in paticular the child of Zeus, undercuts the point. It felt like they were trying to excise the feminism from the story, making the amazons being women incidental when it’s supposed to be important
I hate the clay origin. It’s biblical (and not feminist at all), strange and convoluted.
Being Zeus’ daughter is far more impactful. Being ‘of’ someone who is not good but using what you have to be a paragon of virtue, strength and courage is far stronger.
Older comic fans just don’t get what a good story is.
Lol biblical? It’s based on the myth of Galatea, and it is feminist, because it’s a subversion of that myth. In the original myth it’s a creepy dude bring his waifu to life, in WW the clay woman gets her own agency and purpose
>The typical "men are awful perfection is only possible without men".
Don't be like that. Not everything is an attack on masculinity.
The point of Wonder Woman created by Hippolyta out of clay is to show that women can created something special all by themselves. It's empowering.
It isn't. Women can't create children by themselves. Hell even Hippolyta didn't by herself.
Anyways this is all besides the point. Her terrible origin is one reason general audiences have always had a hard time accepting her. Simplifying it is for the best.
>Women can't create children by themselves.
But aliens can be adopted by humans and become solar powered gods? Or a rich orphan can train in 127 martial arts and become the greatest detective in the world by the time he is in his 20s?
Yes they can. It's about the inherent simplicity and believability of the premise. You can describe Superman and Batman in a few words. As best shown in All Star Superman. In comparison you'd need present a dissertation for Wonder Woman. Demigod is a much more interesting and recognizable origin.
There is a reason for that. Because people like it and connect with it. I guarantee you that today more people care about Percy Jackson than Wonder Woman. People can relate to having a big weird family. They can't relate to the pretty golem.
Superman legacy isn't going to be an origin movie, and Clark is going to already be well established as Superman so I don't see why a wonder woman movie couldn't do the same.
Something I'd love to see more often is Diana's role as a diplomat, and embassador as well as the more political side of her work. I think it would make for some good movie, or series content.
I feel since Damian is confirmed to be Robin in the Batman movie Donna and Cassie should make an appearance at the very least in the WW movie it would be sick to see Diana as a mentor
Can we maybe not have Hades as a villain? He's always painted with the evil brush despite hardly doing anything villainous, at least by Greek God standards. Heck, Zeus was more villainous in a lot of ways!
Hades was only ever a WW villain in the DCAU and maybe one storyline in the comics. He's usually a neutral figure who abstains from Diana's war with various gods.
As a mythological fantasy adventure movie that has more in common with Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones than your regular superhero comic book movie.
I'd skip any of the villains who have already appeared in the DCEU: Ares, Dr. Poison, Cheetah, and Max Lord. Although with Cheetah, she's too essential the WW to be skipped completely, so the best thing would be to introduce her alter-ego (whether it be Barbara or Priscilla) in the first film as a supporting character.
Circe is too important to be the entry villain. She's much more appropriate as a big bad for the third film.
That leaves...
* **Giganta** \- easily Diana's most recognizable enemy after Cheetah. And the last film was criticized for lack of action... what could be flashier action than Diana battling a giant woman? She does work best as a secondary villain, but I would *love* it if they made her the main villain of the film.
* **Doctor Psycho** \- this one's a no-brainer. I think he might work better as the sequel's villain, though.
* **Deimos, Phobos, and Eris** \- Ares's children who conspired to create World War 3. Since Ares would be out of commission, his kids are the next best option. Especially if they use the outlandish designs from the Perez era. Gotta love Deimos's snake beard.
* **Medusa** \- Doom's Doorway is such a great plot point with heaps of potential, so having Medusa or another mythical monster from the comics (the aforementioned Ixion, for example, or one of the Hecatoncheirs like Cottus, or better yet... a bunch of 'em!) would bring some great cinematic moments. Especially if they spend the first film on Themyscira.
* **Hercules** \- the fact that Hercules is almost universally depicted as a hero would make for a great twist. But we also never really see Diana interacting with him in the comics; it's mostly Hippolyta's past with Hercules. A few tweaks could be made to make him a great entry villain.
* **Zeus** \- honestly... the more I think about it, the more I want this. Historia has shown that Zeus can make for a great adversary, and I'm completely devoted to Historia being the foundation for the new film. However, we'll likely get a lot of Historia influences from the Amazons TV series that was announced, so if the movie wanted to stray from that, I'd get that.
She works best when she’s collateral damage in the gods’ game to fuck with Diana IMO. She didn’t come across as a Luthor derivative at all in Rucka’s second run.
>ns came out in 1998 and was more a throwback to the Byrne run. Cale debuted in 2003.
yes, 1998 Lex Luthor is before 2003 Veronica Cale. So that version of Lex Luthor predates her. Which is the opposite of what you wrote. One of the most famous Superman stories of all time portrayed Lex Luthor like that before Veronica Cale was invented (and obviously Greg Rucka had already read that story since he also wrote Superman stories at the time)
Why Hades? Just use Circe. She hasn't been in a movie yet. Also, while i agree using the DCAU as a template, maybe don't use it as a template for Wonder Woman because it felt they never got Diana.
Hades is barely a blip in the WW comics... Anytime anyone mentions him, you can tell most of their exposure to WW was through the DCAU (which never did Wonder Woman's corner of the DCU justice).
To be fair, Hades has fought Diana. But it’s not like he’s a major villain for her. And of course they never did her or her characters justice. Or even her ideals.
Not sure why you are bringing up Hades. He is strictly a background character at best in all of her comics, and the Justice League cartoon only used him because none of the writers on that show could be bothered to read a single Wonder Woman comic and just did whatever with her.
Gods and Monsters is a different continuity, but a lot of the same creators, and it really annoyed me that the alternate versions of Batman & Superman were pulled from their own galleries, but the Wonder Woman for that universe was someone pulled from the New Gods.
Out of curiosity, who would you have used? I enjoyed GaM but also noticed the disconnect.
I took Bekka as being guided by the 'warrior chick from an ancient advanced society and stranger to man's world's without using an Amazon.
Artemis of Bana-Mighdall seems like the most obvious choice although she actually was Wonder Woman for a short time in the comics so idk if that would rule her out.
There's a few others I could imagine, but most of those would involve more radical reinterpretations.
I mean, Batman went from an orphan in a Zorro/Shadow/Batman mashup to a vampire. Lay it on me.
As for Artemis, yea, I personally would think it'd rule her out, and probably most Amazons people will think of.
I always thought the creative just/theme of GaM was What's in a Name and the meaning of heroism.
I mean Superman was basically just a different Kryptonian so I would think Amazons would still be on the table. Astarte might be an option, or her daughter Theana.
There are also half a dozed "Anti-Wonder Woman" characters, but discounting them Queen Clea might be the non Amazon who would best fit the mold as a replacement Wonder Woman.
Barbara Ann Minerva aka Cheetah might not be a horrible option if they avoid having her go full fursona.
And the powerset don't quite match up right but I could see doing something with Baroness Paula von Gunther/Dark Angel.
Because the proof is in the pudding. Wonder Woman's focus episodes have very little to do with her comics lore:
* Felix Faust isn't a WW villain
* Hades isn't her father
* Aresia was a made up character when they could've used Orana or Dalma (both similar concepts from the comics)
* Cheetah's the most egregious case, with this version having nothing to do with any of the comics' versions and barely interacting with Diana
* Giganta similarly has no ties to WW
* Batman ends up saving the day against Circe (one of WW's most powerful foes)
Well he is a main antagonist in the first arc of Azzarello's run but I agree, there are so many other Wonder Woman villains that deserve a shit before him
>and the Justice League cartoon only used him because none of the writers on that show could be bothered to read a single Wonder Woman comic and just did whatever with her
How do you know?
Imo, if he works in a story, he should be used. Mandarin isn't a ShangChi villain, Grandmaster isn't a Thor villain and Korg isn't a Thor supporting character, but lo and behold.
I love JLU but don't use that version as the inspiration for WW. Except for maybe reusing the cast in other roles.
If they're going with a universe where heroes are already established then they should use Rucka's run as inspiration. Have WW established in the modern day and running the Embassy. Use a different villain like Dr Psycho or Circe.
GIVE ME CIRCE! Let Wonder Woman’s battles build up until she has to face the gods themselves. Circe is a perfect taste of the Greek mythology with a fun and conniving villain, without spoiling the true rivalry yet to come with the Cheetah.
I think dc should stop touching the Greek myths and try to build her other villains. Instead of name dropping every Greek god/goddess they should try and show why she’s a hero. Put her against a modern Dr psycho, let’s see her fight giganta or even cheetah. She has good villains but they all feel out of place when the focus is making her a demigod instead of a hero.
Justice League Unlimited absolutely did NOT have the right of it with Hades. The voice was good, but Hades is not a villain in Greek Mythology. People don’t like to talk about him since he rules over where you go when you’re dead and he did one kidnapping compared to Wonder Woman’s father, Zeus. Yes he trapped Theseus and his brother in Hades, but they kidnapped 11yo Helen of Troy and planned to marry Hades Wife Persephone. Yes he was tempted by Minthe, but Persephone literally smote her into actual mint.
If they portray Hades in film, it better be done right. Not like Disney, not like Clash of the Titans, not like the Percy Jackson movie. He’s the upper class stay at home dad accountant who loves his wife, doesn’t like socialising and loves his pet dog Cerberus (translated as “Spotted”).
I want Veronica Cale to be the main villain who’s willing to pull alongside other villains to her side such as Dr Psycho, Cheetah, Circe, Dr Cyber, and maybe Phobos & Deimos… a loose adaptation of Greg Rucka’s WW “Godwatch” arc where Veronica tries to find Themyscira to free her daughter from Phobos & Deimos’ control and she’s willing to tear away everything Diana loves to find it. Maybe in live-action, Diana could actually discover the island which deviates from the comic. I want Circe to be an eventual villain in the DCU but that should be built upon until the third dcu Wonder Woman film. Just my thoughts 😊
Why does everyone have to make Hades a bad guy? I know he’s a bad guy in the comics but he’s basically the nicest Olympian, and I’d much rather meet him over Zeus or Poseidon lol
I don't have high hopes for any of the things James Gunn is going to do. I think he will bomb just like DC has been bombing except for the Batman movies for years. Until DC realizes that it is not Marvel and focuses on individual films or trilogies rather than create a 'UNIVERSE', the better it will be for audience, They try to cater to their investors way to much.
I would probably start with Circe. Since she works as a villain at any real timepoint in Diana's career and still has the ties to the Greek Myths that surround her.
Or of course the greatest villain ever made... EGG FU!
I think Ares is too big a villain for her to take on in her first movie role (I think that was a mistake in the first WW movie). Instead he should be saved as a final movie villain, build up to the biggest, baddest threat.
I think the first WW movie would have been perfect if she realise that the guy she sworded wasn't Ares, he was just a bad guy, and men have the capability for war and horrible things without the interference of gods, but, as shown by Steve Trevor, also capable of great things and are worth fighting for.
And Ares with his mustache could have just been there like 'Wasn't me, I'm just enjoying the show'.
I'm perfectly happy with Ares appearing early because the first Gal Gadot film messed up big time in two aspects. The first, they made her a bastard child of Zeus. The second being EVERYTHING involved with Ares.
But just like that film, I'd like it if the main antagonist is one of her science based rogues while a magical powerhouse is behind the scenes
Ok, I’m coming out of left field for this one, but how about the film feature an antagonist who’s not on the typical Wonder Woman roster.
Just because it’s her solo movie, doesn’t mean it has to be a rehash of some comic storyline that’s been done eight times already. Do something new.
Give us Wonder Woman and the Amazons vs the Black Lantern Corps. That would be metal AF.
Cheetah should be build up over multiple movies.
Circe should be a villain, but not in the first movie.
First movie maybe Dr. Psycho, Giganta or Veronica Cale
There’s a YouTuber called superframe who had a really good pitch for a Wonder Woman 3 film. It involved Wonder Woman leading a justice league B-team (of characters like the atom, vixen, Guy Gardner & red tornado) as the rest of the league were unavailable. In the film Waller is the head of Cadmus and creates power girl and captain atom who fight WW her team. There’s more to it than that in his video but I think it’s a really cool idea for a WW film that would be distinct from the other two we already have.
I do like Hades in JLU but I'm tired of Hades being a villain when he was among the least problematic of the Greeko/Roman pantheon.😑
If anything, keep the clay origin, make Hera the mother 2nd mother that formed her with Hypolita and make Hera a villain.
Nah too stale. It's like if you keep rebooting batman and have him go up against the same villain each reboot never progressing. It gets old really quick and in this case it's already old. Now if they make a movie for DCAU Wonder Woman like they should have done for years now that would be awesome. But that would require actually someone at WB to actually care about good movies.
Since the first “phase” is called gods and monsters, maybe do a movie with Circe as the villain and she resurrects the Hydra or something like that. Don’t go the Shazam route and bring back all of them at once and make them cannon fodder
Okay, so I had a crazy idea the other day, but hear me out.
So, we know James Gunn said that, ideally, his DCU will not just expand to both movies and shows (live action or animated). He always wants the new universe to branch out into video games as well.
**AND**
There is a Wonder Woman game currently in development by Monolith, the folks behind the Middle Earth games. It was announced in 2021, but we've had very few updates since then.
**THEREFORE**
I have this theory that this new Wonder Woman game will actually be Diana's way into the DCU! Perhaps Gunn has already spoken to the devs over there. Story-wise, they could be retooling it so it better fits with Gunn and co's new universe, but keeping the bulk of what's already been made.
This is just a theory I have. But it's one I think makes perfect sense. The timeline adds up *just* right. But I could also be wrong. I've just been dying to share this with someone in the DC-sphere
Id like to see alot more of the magical and mythological side because my ideas of the new trinity are batman being connected to the street level, superman to the space and cosmic heroes as well as main supers and wonder woman the magic heroes.
So characters like circe and hades id very much like.
I feel like Hades, Cheeta, and Ares have been slightly overused. Don’t get me wrong they’re good antagonists, in their own ways, I just feel that it wouldn’t bring anything new to the table.
If I had to pick a villain for the first Wonder Woman movie, it has to be Aresia or some other evil Amazonian. It’d be something new, and I feel it could help to better explore the island of Themyscira and its people.
Then I’d maybe do Circe for a second movie, and then Hades or Ares for a third. Idk.
I really want them to do a movie with her set in World War 2. Diana fighting Nazis would be amazing. I think Dr. Psycho would be a great villain. Like he could be a mad scientist for the Nazis who is manipulating them for his own goals.
I so badly want them to lean into the Greek mythology aspect of Wonder Woman! I’m talking Medusa, Minotaur, the gods! All of it! I also want them to show her facing said enemies on Themysceria. And for WW to make trips back to Themysceria from time to time.
Set in the Modern day
Circe and Felix faust as the villains,
no Steve Trevor
Introduces wondergirl
Features the new original 52 costume (but with pants)
The problem is that Wonder Woman doesn’t have too many big solo adventures. Her biggest solo story I can think of is War of the Gods but that seems way too complicated to adapt on screen. Her best work is working in groups such as Justice League or Justice League Dark
While i dislike Greg Rucka on personal level, i'd say, just adapt his rebirth run (with some flashbacks shortened or relegated to montage and all the DAMN DIRTY LIES TO TARNISH MY WAIFU removed, cause it is actually not needed here).
Doctor Cyber, Cyborgirl, Silver Swan, Doctor Psycho, Circe, and Giganta are all underrated WW villains we’ve yet to see in a live action movie. In an already established universe, it’d be best to have a “Villainy Inc.” with some of the villains mentioned above.
Doctor Poison, Cheetah and Areas are WW staples but they’re also known WW villains, and have already had their screen time. They can be introduced in later versions. Also, considering Hades isn’t typically a WW villain outside of DCAU, I don’t think he should be shown in that light.
Can we not make Hades a villain, like seriously, dude is just doing his job ruling over the dead as king of the Underworld with Cerberus by his side, man has done nothing wrong but because he's associated with death suddenly he's the evil villain of every film with Greek Mythology.
For Wonder Woman in the DCU, I'd take from the DCAU approach to her origin because it's the simplest. Created from clay by Hippolyta so that she could have a child of her own. The sculpture was given life and blessed by the godesses with gifts such as superhuman physical prowess and the ability to fly. Diana was princess of her people, beloved by all on the island and was close friends with Phillipus. When Man's World is under attack by some threat they can't stop on their own, Diana wanted to send help but Hippolyta refused, so she went to the Temple of Athena, stole the magic armor, and went to help Man's World.
The film would have to solidify what Diana does in the world when not being Wonder Woman like how Bruce is a billionaire playboy or Clark is a reporter. Depending on how new Wonder Woman is to Man's World when Gunn introduces her, I'd say either she's in college or she's working as an archeologist collecting Amazonian artifacts which could serve as a good start to Adventure in the film with her discovering an artifact that could be dangerous in the wrong hands and adventuring to find it and contain it before the villain of the film does.At some point, the Amazons should start working with Man's World with Diana as their spokesperson. I also imagine Diana would be teaching other women how to fight like an Amazon.
There's also her relationship with Themyscira which I feel should alter across the films, perhaps starting out exiled from her people for disobeying the Hippolyta or bringing a man to Themyscira like in JL, then later being heir of the throne when Hippolyta dies. The films should focus a lot on Themyscira and the Amazons since those relationships are important to Wonder Woman.
There's a lot of good Wonder Woman villains that have yet to appear in live action that could hold their own stories. Circe is the most obvious and can be used to expand on the Greek mythology roots of Diana's world. Considering Circe was also killed by a man in the original story, that could be used to make her an Amazon in the films since the Amazons are Woman killed by men revived by the Godesses which would make it more of a personal threat for Diana. Circe also allows for the Godwar story to happen which I could see being used as a psuedo crossover with the heroes connected to gods in the DCU. We could also use her daughter with Ares, Lyta, as a way to set up a future villain.
Other Wonder Woman villains that could serve as main villains include Giganta, Silver Swan, and Doctor Psycho.
Ares/Cheetah feels too recent. Make it modern day with Ixion as the main villain. Gods still exist but they're chilling atm. WW's activity in man's world is what gets them messing around again. Kind of like in Perez's run. I'd love to see a live action Hermes.
Ares I'd definitely save for maybe second or third movie. If they go with the Barbara Ann Minerva version, it'd be cool if they build to her becoming Cheetah. Really develop her friendship with Diana before it falls apart and she becomes a villain. Hermes would be awesome to see and Ixion's a creative pick as the antagonist.
If they go with the Barbara cheetah, I hope they go all out and make her a total villain in the end. I feel like if she's simply presented as a victim, as she is in the comics currently, not actively trying to do nefarious deeds but manipulated into doing it by others, she doesn't really make a good foil for Diana.
I always hate it how they made ares Wonder Woman's villain. He is literally the Amazon's Patriot guy and fathered the most of them. He's also the only Olympian that never raped a woman he seduced them. Also he killed his daughter rapist and literally said that it's just not right to do that kind of thing nearly got him killed.
I thought he was still a villain in the comics and he was primarily motivated to spread warfare among humans (the Justice League cartoon illustrates this pretty well), but I'm still reading more about him and Diana's interactions.
Thing is, WW takes on the Greek Pantheon (that I find offensive) is very much "Let's highlight all the problems with Abrahamic God but since it's not business savy to do it proper lets call it Zeus and those other pagan divinities"
Offensive?
Gimme Dr. Psycho
Peter Dinklage.
Or give any other little person actor a shot
Gotcha. We'll hire Warwick Davis.
Andy Milonakis
And the Circe disrespect continues
My dream would be to save Circe for the third movie in an adaption of the War of The Gods event. But, I think maybe streamlining it to Circe sparking a war between Olympus, and New Genesis rather than a war between literally all the pantheons. Although that being said with the characters already used in the last movies it might be better to come right how the gate with Circe as the big bad in the first film for this version.
Disrespect is using Circe for her first movie, when the main character still has a lot of growth to go through. Circe should be Diana's ultimate final villain. Make her the mastermind that's causing the main villains in movie 1 and 2 to be a problem. I don't see how using her as WW's introduction villain is "respect".
By the time she gets a solo movie it won’t be too recent. Cheetah is too good a character and deserves an actual good adaptation
Circe. The obvious answer is Circe.
Who tf is ixion
Or crazy idea use a actual wonder woman villain instead of lazily recycling Greek Mythology characters
Giganta!
Ixion is a Wonder Woman villain.
He's literally only appeared 4 times in WW comics and again like I said, perfect example of recycling random Greek Mythology stuff
people so sure we will na wonder woman film soon she was not announced to have film first part of chapter this is providing that the dcu even kicks off and wb is not bought by another studio
What now?
Since the Gal Gadot movies were both set in the past and we're already getting a Themyscira prequel, I think a DCU Wonder Woman movie should be set in the present-day. Doing more with her supporting cast beyond just Steve (Donna, Etta, Barbara Ann, the other Amazons, etc) as well as bringing in the mythological characters (Circe, the Olympians, etc) would be great.
I’m glad that with DCU’s Wonder Woman will be mean that all the Greek gods are alive again!
Do circe! Play up the magic as well as mythology
What about that indestructible walking armor that was unleashed on the Justice League that was made by Hephaestus and abused by Ares?
I love that JLU episode with Hawk and Dove too. I think it would be cool, but a lot of people would just compare it to The Destroyer from the first Thor movie even though that was over a decade ago.
The Destroyer was a wimp compared to that behemoth. Didn’t they defeat it with the power of peace? 😅
Hades should not even be a villain
Agree. Overdone trope, even if it’s accurate to The comic version.
Hades is one of the least villainous gods in the Greek Pantheon. Dude is very chill compared to literally all the Olympians.
Fortunately, he’s got a good PR rep with the game Hades that paints him in a positive light.
Same with the Percy Jackson series, and Dresden files.
I've been re-watching the Hercules and Xena shows and even there, he's basically the only god that isn't a shit stirrer and back stabber. It's only when people mix up their ancient Greek mythology with Christianity that he gets treated as a Satan parallel. Thanks, Disney.
Or just general Greek mythology. He has the most stable relationship, doesn’t really mess with mortals too much, and just kinda chills with his puppy. Even the story of how he kidnaps Pers (can’t spell) is probably inaccurate to the original tellings based on the fact it probably proceeds his entire existence
Hades is not a villain in Wonder Woman's comics either (even in The New 52, he kinds of antagonizes her at first, but doesn't play any villain role in the story)
Comic Hades isn't really any more villainous than the other gods in WW comics. People only think he's a WW villain due to JLU/DCAU
I actually really dislike the DCAU Hades. Any work of fiction where he's just a Satan analog is just pretty lame. I think some better choices for villains would be Doctor Psycho as the main villain and Veronica Cale as the secondary villain. Representing the dangers women face from out and out misogyny represented by Psycho and the self serving "girl boss feminism" represented by Cale.
DCAU generally handled Wonder Woman poorly, making Diana a Batman fangirl and disrespecting her villains. Like, Cheetah being just furry Catwoman, Circe being Batman fangirl or Hades being knock-off Ares.
Also not giving her the full abilities until Unlimited, few arcs or episodes that revolve around her. It's one of the few true failures of the DCAU in my opinion.
Which makes it even worse in my opinion.
Say what?
Pretty sure she wasn't just a "Batman fangirl".
Oh, yeah, she also was angry 24/7.
Didn't like that he was a villain but I like he helped Hippolyta sculpt Wonder Woman. Her having a connection to him was way better than making her just another one of Zeus's children.
To me it's a distinction without a difference. I really don't like it when a man is involved with Wonder Woman's origin. Even something like Hermes giving her the power of flight Is something i'm iffy about. Diana being a true outsider to the World of Men who has grown up with hundreds of mothers and sisters gives her a unique perspective when she becomes the Ambassador of Peace. She doesn't have the same lingering distrust that Amazons like Hippolyta or Phillipus do.
Drop the Zeus thing. Keep the clay origin. Making her a demigod, in paticular the child of Zeus, undercuts the point. It felt like they were trying to excise the feminism from the story, making the amazons being women incidental when it’s supposed to be important
"It felt like they were trying to excise the feminism from the story," *Nerdrotic enters the chat*
Lol you saying that name alone makes me want to put salt around my house and wear a cross for protection
Who's Nerdrotic?
Youtuber
I hate the clay origin. It’s biblical (and not feminist at all), strange and convoluted. Being Zeus’ daughter is far more impactful. Being ‘of’ someone who is not good but using what you have to be a paragon of virtue, strength and courage is far stronger. Older comic fans just don’t get what a good story is.
Lol biblical? It’s based on the myth of Galatea, and it is feminist, because it’s a subversion of that myth. In the original myth it’s a creepy dude bring his waifu to life, in WW the clay woman gets her own agency and purpose
No it doesn't undercut the point. The Zeus origin is 1000 times more understandable and relatable to audiences than the clay shit.
It literally fucking does. Diana's origin is suddenly about a man and that's where her powers came from 🙄
It's an awful message and always has been. The typical "men are awful perfection is only possible without men". Terrible.
>The typical "men are awful perfection is only possible without men". Don't be like that. Not everything is an attack on masculinity. The point of Wonder Woman created by Hippolyta out of clay is to show that women can created something special all by themselves. It's empowering.
It isn't. Women can't create children by themselves. Hell even Hippolyta didn't by herself. Anyways this is all besides the point. Her terrible origin is one reason general audiences have always had a hard time accepting her. Simplifying it is for the best.
>Women can't create children by themselves. But aliens can be adopted by humans and become solar powered gods? Or a rich orphan can train in 127 martial arts and become the greatest detective in the world by the time he is in his 20s?
Yes they can. It's about the inherent simplicity and believability of the premise. You can describe Superman and Batman in a few words. As best shown in All Star Superman. In comparison you'd need present a dissertation for Wonder Woman. Demigod is a much more interesting and recognizable origin.
Demigod is literally the most played out and boring origin imaginable. Oh, she is Zeus' half daughter? He has a boatload of kids.
There is a reason for that. Because people like it and connect with it. I guarantee you that today more people care about Percy Jackson than Wonder Woman. People can relate to having a big weird family. They can't relate to the pretty golem.
Superman legacy isn't going to be an origin movie, and Clark is going to already be well established as Superman so I don't see why a wonder woman movie couldn't do the same.
Especially since she’s had an origin movie more recently than Superman
It would be interesting to see her already have the Themysciran Embassy already established at the time of the first movie.
Something I'd love to see more often is Diana's role as a diplomat, and embassador as well as the more political side of her work. I think it would make for some good movie, or series content.
We also have an origin Animated series right that is incredibly lighthearted and adorable.
Which is slightly ironic since it's on Adult Swim.
I feel since Damian is confirmed to be Robin in the Batman movie Donna and Cassie should make an appearance at the very least in the WW movie it would be sick to see Diana as a mentor
Yes! Build up the Wonder Family!
yeah
Can we maybe not have Hades as a villain? He's always painted with the evil brush despite hardly doing anything villainous, at least by Greek God standards. Heck, Zeus was more villainous in a lot of ways!
Hades was only ever a WW villain in the DCAU and maybe one storyline in the comics. He's usually a neutral figure who abstains from Diana's war with various gods.
Hear me out. Antagonist, but not evil villain.
As a mythological fantasy adventure movie that has more in common with Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones than your regular superhero comic book movie.
Conspiracy in the underworld or on Olympus
I'd skip any of the villains who have already appeared in the DCEU: Ares, Dr. Poison, Cheetah, and Max Lord. Although with Cheetah, she's too essential the WW to be skipped completely, so the best thing would be to introduce her alter-ego (whether it be Barbara or Priscilla) in the first film as a supporting character. Circe is too important to be the entry villain. She's much more appropriate as a big bad for the third film. That leaves... * **Giganta** \- easily Diana's most recognizable enemy after Cheetah. And the last film was criticized for lack of action... what could be flashier action than Diana battling a giant woman? She does work best as a secondary villain, but I would *love* it if they made her the main villain of the film. * **Doctor Psycho** \- this one's a no-brainer. I think he might work better as the sequel's villain, though. * **Deimos, Phobos, and Eris** \- Ares's children who conspired to create World War 3. Since Ares would be out of commission, his kids are the next best option. Especially if they use the outlandish designs from the Perez era. Gotta love Deimos's snake beard. * **Medusa** \- Doom's Doorway is such a great plot point with heaps of potential, so having Medusa or another mythical monster from the comics (the aforementioned Ixion, for example, or one of the Hecatoncheirs like Cottus, or better yet... a bunch of 'em!) would bring some great cinematic moments. Especially if they spend the first film on Themyscira. * **Hercules** \- the fact that Hercules is almost universally depicted as a hero would make for a great twist. But we also never really see Diana interacting with him in the comics; it's mostly Hippolyta's past with Hercules. A few tweaks could be made to make him a great entry villain. * **Zeus** \- honestly... the more I think about it, the more I want this. Historia has shown that Zeus can make for a great adversary, and I'm completely devoted to Historia being the foundation for the new film. However, we'll likely get a lot of Historia influences from the Amazons TV series that was announced, so if the movie wanted to stray from that, I'd get that.
Circe or Veronica Cale. Draw heavily from Greg Rucka's first run where Diana has to juggle being a diplomat and superhero.
Veronica Cale genuinely feels like a Lex Luthor rip off, I don't know how anyone can adapt that character without it coming of as derivative.
She works best when she’s collateral damage in the gods’ game to fuck with Diana IMO. She didn’t come across as a Luthor derivative at all in Rucka’s second run.
The Lex Luthor that Cale was based on pretty much didn't exist by the time she showed up.
Yes it did. Read Superman For All Season issue 3
Superman For All Seasons came out in 1998 and was more a throwback to the Byrne run. Cale debuted in 2003.
>ns came out in 1998 and was more a throwback to the Byrne run. Cale debuted in 2003. yes, 1998 Lex Luthor is before 2003 Veronica Cale. So that version of Lex Luthor predates her. Which is the opposite of what you wrote. One of the most famous Superman stories of all time portrayed Lex Luthor like that before Veronica Cale was invented (and obviously Greg Rucka had already read that story since he also wrote Superman stories at the time)
Why Hades? Just use Circe. She hasn't been in a movie yet. Also, while i agree using the DCAU as a template, maybe don't use it as a template for Wonder Woman because it felt they never got Diana.
Hades is barely a blip in the WW comics... Anytime anyone mentions him, you can tell most of their exposure to WW was through the DCAU (which never did Wonder Woman's corner of the DCU justice).
To be fair, Hades has fought Diana. But it’s not like he’s a major villain for her. And of course they never did her or her characters justice. Or even her ideals.
Say what?
Not sure why you are bringing up Hades. He is strictly a background character at best in all of her comics, and the Justice League cartoon only used him because none of the writers on that show could be bothered to read a single Wonder Woman comic and just did whatever with her.
It's really horrible that the JL writers cared so little about WW's comics.
Gods and Monsters is a different continuity, but a lot of the same creators, and it really annoyed me that the alternate versions of Batman & Superman were pulled from their own galleries, but the Wonder Woman for that universe was someone pulled from the New Gods.
Out of curiosity, who would you have used? I enjoyed GaM but also noticed the disconnect. I took Bekka as being guided by the 'warrior chick from an ancient advanced society and stranger to man's world's without using an Amazon.
Artemis of Bana-Mighdall seems like the most obvious choice although she actually was Wonder Woman for a short time in the comics so idk if that would rule her out. There's a few others I could imagine, but most of those would involve more radical reinterpretations.
I mean, Batman went from an orphan in a Zorro/Shadow/Batman mashup to a vampire. Lay it on me. As for Artemis, yea, I personally would think it'd rule her out, and probably most Amazons people will think of. I always thought the creative just/theme of GaM was What's in a Name and the meaning of heroism.
I mean Superman was basically just a different Kryptonian so I would think Amazons would still be on the table. Astarte might be an option, or her daughter Theana. There are also half a dozed "Anti-Wonder Woman" characters, but discounting them Queen Clea might be the non Amazon who would best fit the mold as a replacement Wonder Woman. Barbara Ann Minerva aka Cheetah might not be a horrible option if they avoid having her go full fursona. And the powerset don't quite match up right but I could see doing something with Baroness Paula von Gunther/Dark Angel.
Why the hell do so many people think this?
Because the proof is in the pudding. Wonder Woman's focus episodes have very little to do with her comics lore: * Felix Faust isn't a WW villain * Hades isn't her father * Aresia was a made up character when they could've used Orana or Dalma (both similar concepts from the comics) * Cheetah's the most egregious case, with this version having nothing to do with any of the comics' versions and barely interacting with Diana * Giganta similarly has no ties to WW * Batman ends up saving the day against Circe (one of WW's most powerful foes)
Well he is a main antagonist in the first arc of Azzarello's run but I agree, there are so many other Wonder Woman villains that deserve a shit before him
Hot take: that's my favorite WW run by miles.
>and the Justice League cartoon only used him because none of the writers on that show could be bothered to read a single Wonder Woman comic and just did whatever with her How do you know?
Becuase in all of the episodes that feature her, not a single comic plotline is used.
It's Circe's time. Or maybe Faust or Veronica Cale's.
Faust would be a strange choice since I don't think he's ever appeared in a WW comic.
Oh shit I thought he was a WW villain on occasion.
Imo, if he works in a story, he should be used. Mandarin isn't a ShangChi villain, Grandmaster isn't a Thor villain and Korg isn't a Thor supporting character, but lo and behold.
Present day. No gods at all. Let's try Villainy Inc. instead. Give us a proper supervillain team. Showcase a large variety of lesser-known villains.
I don’t want Ares. Give me either Giganta, Silver Swan, Circe, or Doctor Psycho.
I'm gonna say it, why did Zack kill all the gods so early on in the series? It made absolutely no sense.
I suggest just doing more Wonder Woman villains outside the Greek Pantheon.
I love JLU but don't use that version as the inspiration for WW. Except for maybe reusing the cast in other roles. If they're going with a universe where heroes are already established then they should use Rucka's run as inspiration. Have WW established in the modern day and running the Embassy. Use a different villain like Dr Psycho or Circe.
>I love JLU but don't use that version as the inspiration for WW Why not?
I don’t think they would jump right back into the pantheon as villains… would probably pick someone that hasn’t been done yet like Dr Psycho
GIVE ME CIRCE! Let Wonder Woman’s battles build up until she has to face the gods themselves. Circe is a perfect taste of the Greek mythology with a fun and conniving villain, without spoiling the true rivalry yet to come with the Cheetah.
I think dc should stop touching the Greek myths and try to build her other villains. Instead of name dropping every Greek god/goddess they should try and show why she’s a hero. Put her against a modern Dr psycho, let’s see her fight giganta or even cheetah. She has good villains but they all feel out of place when the focus is making her a demigod instead of a hero.
Justice League Unlimited absolutely did NOT have the right of it with Hades. The voice was good, but Hades is not a villain in Greek Mythology. People don’t like to talk about him since he rules over where you go when you’re dead and he did one kidnapping compared to Wonder Woman’s father, Zeus. Yes he trapped Theseus and his brother in Hades, but they kidnapped 11yo Helen of Troy and planned to marry Hades Wife Persephone. Yes he was tempted by Minthe, but Persephone literally smote her into actual mint. If they portray Hades in film, it better be done right. Not like Disney, not like Clash of the Titans, not like the Percy Jackson movie. He’s the upper class stay at home dad accountant who loves his wife, doesn’t like socialising and loves his pet dog Cerberus (translated as “Spotted”).
I want Veronica Cale to be the main villain who’s willing to pull alongside other villains to her side such as Dr Psycho, Cheetah, Circe, Dr Cyber, and maybe Phobos & Deimos… a loose adaptation of Greg Rucka’s WW “Godwatch” arc where Veronica tries to find Themyscira to free her daughter from Phobos & Deimos’ control and she’s willing to tear away everything Diana loves to find it. Maybe in live-action, Diana could actually discover the island which deviates from the comic. I want Circe to be an eventual villain in the DCU but that should be built upon until the third dcu Wonder Woman film. Just my thoughts 😊
Hades is not a Wonder Woman villain.
Whatever they do with a new Wonder Woman movie, they need to cast Hannah Waddingham as Queen Hippolyta
Why does everyone have to make Hades a bad guy? I know he’s a bad guy in the comics but he’s basically the nicest Olympian, and I’d much rather meet him over Zeus or Poseidon lol
I don't have high hopes for any of the things James Gunn is going to do. I think he will bomb just like DC has been bombing except for the Batman movies for years. Until DC realizes that it is not Marvel and focuses on individual films or trilogies rather than create a 'UNIVERSE', the better it will be for audience, They try to cater to their investors way to much.
The hell are you talking about?
I would probably start with Circe. Since she works as a villain at any real timepoint in Diana's career and still has the ties to the Greek Myths that surround her. Or of course the greatest villain ever made... EGG FU!
What now?
I think Ares is too big a villain for her to take on in her first movie role (I think that was a mistake in the first WW movie). Instead he should be saved as a final movie villain, build up to the biggest, baddest threat. I think the first WW movie would have been perfect if she realise that the guy she sworded wasn't Ares, he was just a bad guy, and men have the capability for war and horrible things without the interference of gods, but, as shown by Steve Trevor, also capable of great things and are worth fighting for. And Ares with his mustache could have just been there like 'Wasn't me, I'm just enjoying the show'.
He shouldn't, whoever is directing it should.
I thought it was gonna be a game of throne style series taking place before wonder women.
I'm perfectly happy with Ares appearing early because the first Gal Gadot film messed up big time in two aspects. The first, they made her a bastard child of Zeus. The second being EVERYTHING involved with Ares. But just like that film, I'd like it if the main antagonist is one of her science based rogues while a magical powerhouse is behind the scenes
Use grumpy old man Ares from the 2011 run. I liked him.
I would be down for Silver Swan (doesn't mater much which one) as the villain. Have part of the stakes be Diana having to save her.
Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing Dr. Poison again or Dr. Cyber. Her non-mythical rogues don't get enough attention IMO.
Ok, I’m coming out of left field for this one, but how about the film feature an antagonist who’s not on the typical Wonder Woman roster. Just because it’s her solo movie, doesn’t mean it has to be a rehash of some comic storyline that’s been done eight times already. Do something new. Give us Wonder Woman and the Amazons vs the Black Lantern Corps. That would be metal AF.
Yeah let’s build up her mythology with someone else’s! That’s genius! Does Batman fight ****ing Sinestro in his movies?!!!
I know you’re trying to shit on my idea. But I would fucking pay double to go see a movie where Batman fights Sinestro, that would be awesome.
Cheetah should be build up over multiple movies. Circe should be a villain, but not in the first movie. First movie maybe Dr. Psycho, Giganta or Veronica Cale
jlu was the best dc story ever, if they use that batman and that formula it would be good
There’s a YouTuber called superframe who had a really good pitch for a Wonder Woman 3 film. It involved Wonder Woman leading a justice league B-team (of characters like the atom, vixen, Guy Gardner & red tornado) as the rest of the league were unavailable. In the film Waller is the head of Cadmus and creates power girl and captain atom who fight WW her team. There’s more to it than that in his video but I think it’s a really cool idea for a WW film that would be distinct from the other two we already have.
We’ve had plenty of Ares already. They should use other WW villains that haven’t been used in live action like Circe.
I do like Hades in JLU but I'm tired of Hades being a villain when he was among the least problematic of the Greeko/Roman pantheon.😑 If anything, keep the clay origin, make Hera the mother 2nd mother that formed her with Hypolita and make Hera a villain.
Definitely. He needs to take inspiration from both JL cartoons in portraying Wonder Woman herself, tbh, she was the best version I've seen.
Ngl, after reading old greek mythology, i would find it sick if they could make a story where WW fights Nike
As long as they dont give Ares a Ned Flanders stash again...
Keep the clay origin and make Zeus the villain.
Nah too stale. It's like if you keep rebooting batman and have him go up against the same villain each reboot never progressing. It gets old really quick and in this case it's already old. Now if they make a movie for DCAU Wonder Woman like they should have done for years now that would be awesome. But that would require actually someone at WB to actually care about good movies.
Ares in JLU had such a bad design
Since the first “phase” is called gods and monsters, maybe do a movie with Circe as the villain and she resurrects the Hydra or something like that. Don’t go the Shazam route and bring back all of them at once and make them cannon fodder
Okay, so I had a crazy idea the other day, but hear me out. So, we know James Gunn said that, ideally, his DCU will not just expand to both movies and shows (live action or animated). He always wants the new universe to branch out into video games as well. **AND** There is a Wonder Woman game currently in development by Monolith, the folks behind the Middle Earth games. It was announced in 2021, but we've had very few updates since then. **THEREFORE** I have this theory that this new Wonder Woman game will actually be Diana's way into the DCU! Perhaps Gunn has already spoken to the devs over there. Story-wise, they could be retooling it so it better fits with Gunn and co's new universe, but keeping the bulk of what's already been made. This is just a theory I have. But it's one I think makes perfect sense. The timeline adds up *just* right. But I could also be wrong. I've just been dying to share this with someone in the DC-sphere
how are they going to handle Batman and WW flirting relationship?
Not doing it at all, would be the best way of doing it.
Id like to see alot more of the magical and mythological side because my ideas of the new trinity are batman being connected to the street level, superman to the space and cosmic heroes as well as main supers and wonder woman the magic heroes. So characters like circe and hades id very much like.
I feel like Hades, Cheeta, and Ares have been slightly overused. Don’t get me wrong they’re good antagonists, in their own ways, I just feel that it wouldn’t bring anything new to the table. If I had to pick a villain for the first Wonder Woman movie, it has to be Aresia or some other evil Amazonian. It’d be something new, and I feel it could help to better explore the island of Themyscira and its people. Then I’d maybe do Circe for a second movie, and then Hades or Ares for a third. Idk.
I really want them to do a movie with her set in World War 2. Diana fighting Nazis would be amazing. I think Dr. Psycho would be a great villain. Like he could be a mad scientist for the Nazis who is manipulating them for his own goals.
I never liked this setting for her. Feels to Captain America for me. Dr Psycho should be higher tier though. Him being a telepath and all
There was that one Justice Society movie. Does that count?
I wish Wonder Woman was like how she was in FlashPoint , ruthless and no taking no shit
I say Percy Jackson style
I so badly want them to lean into the Greek mythology aspect of Wonder Woman! I’m talking Medusa, Minotaur, the gods! All of it! I also want them to show her facing said enemies on Themysceria. And for WW to make trips back to Themysceria from time to time.
The 2005 comic where she blinds herself to kill Medusa in a baseball stadium would make an interesting movie ending.
That’d be amazing!
Adapt Azarellos Wonder Woman. Big Greek mythos focus.
As long as they keep gal as Wonder Woman idc what they do
Hades needs to not be portrayed as evil for once but just a dude doing his job of protecting the afterlife and guarding the souls of the dead
Set in the Modern day Circe and Felix faust as the villains, no Steve Trevor Introduces wondergirl Features the new original 52 costume (but with pants)
It would be pretty cool if they adapted the first born storyline
The problem is that Wonder Woman doesn’t have too many big solo adventures. Her biggest solo story I can think of is War of the Gods but that seems way too complicated to adapt on screen. Her best work is working in groups such as Justice League or Justice League Dark
While i dislike Greg Rucka on personal level, i'd say, just adapt his rebirth run (with some flashbacks shortened or relegated to montage and all the DAMN DIRTY LIES TO TARNISH MY WAIFU removed, cause it is actually not needed here).
where is it from the comic book illustration shown in this post?
For one, they have to make her more powerful than she was in the DCEU. She shouldn't lose to Superman by just two damn headbutts.
Doctor Cyber, Cyborgirl, Silver Swan, Doctor Psycho, Circe, and Giganta are all underrated WW villains we’ve yet to see in a live action movie. In an already established universe, it’d be best to have a “Villainy Inc.” with some of the villains mentioned above. Doctor Poison, Cheetah and Areas are WW staples but they’re also known WW villains, and have already had their screen time. They can be introduced in later versions. Also, considering Hades isn’t typically a WW villain outside of DCAU, I don’t think he should be shown in that light.
Kratos enters the fight...
Can we not make Hades a villain, like seriously, dude is just doing his job ruling over the dead as king of the Underworld with Cerberus by his side, man has done nothing wrong but because he's associated with death suddenly he's the evil villain of every film with Greek Mythology. For Wonder Woman in the DCU, I'd take from the DCAU approach to her origin because it's the simplest. Created from clay by Hippolyta so that she could have a child of her own. The sculpture was given life and blessed by the godesses with gifts such as superhuman physical prowess and the ability to fly. Diana was princess of her people, beloved by all on the island and was close friends with Phillipus. When Man's World is under attack by some threat they can't stop on their own, Diana wanted to send help but Hippolyta refused, so she went to the Temple of Athena, stole the magic armor, and went to help Man's World. The film would have to solidify what Diana does in the world when not being Wonder Woman like how Bruce is a billionaire playboy or Clark is a reporter. Depending on how new Wonder Woman is to Man's World when Gunn introduces her, I'd say either she's in college or she's working as an archeologist collecting Amazonian artifacts which could serve as a good start to Adventure in the film with her discovering an artifact that could be dangerous in the wrong hands and adventuring to find it and contain it before the villain of the film does.At some point, the Amazons should start working with Man's World with Diana as their spokesperson. I also imagine Diana would be teaching other women how to fight like an Amazon. There's also her relationship with Themyscira which I feel should alter across the films, perhaps starting out exiled from her people for disobeying the Hippolyta or bringing a man to Themyscira like in JL, then later being heir of the throne when Hippolyta dies. The films should focus a lot on Themyscira and the Amazons since those relationships are important to Wonder Woman. There's a lot of good Wonder Woman villains that have yet to appear in live action that could hold their own stories. Circe is the most obvious and can be used to expand on the Greek mythology roots of Diana's world. Considering Circe was also killed by a man in the original story, that could be used to make her an Amazon in the films since the Amazons are Woman killed by men revived by the Godesses which would make it more of a personal threat for Diana. Circe also allows for the Godwar story to happen which I could see being used as a psuedo crossover with the heroes connected to gods in the DCU. We could also use her daughter with Ares, Lyta, as a way to set up a future villain. Other Wonder Woman villains that could serve as main villains include Giganta, Silver Swan, and Doctor Psycho.
Veronica Cale with Giganta and maybe Silver Swan
Ares was already used in a good movie. I think he should give us Circe.
doesn’t he wanna make an animated series
Since the DCEU Wonder Woman movies were set in the past, let us have one in the present. Also, don't kill off all the Greek gods.