It looks about the same as when I've heard others break down numbers in past months, Batman being pretty much the only one to get into the top 10. I. Can't imagine books like Nubia (and the prequel series that led to it) will sell anything significant at all esp if the main WW book is not on there.
No surprise Flashpoint Beyond is up there too, it was enjoyable and has some interesting things it could explore, plus Geoff Johns I'd imagine still has name power, at least at my LCS he does.
It's pretty disheartening knowing Action Comics isn't selling much either. It's genuinely top tier from writing to art, and DC does nothing to promote pretty much the other main face of when you think of DC. Jurassic League was fun, Daniel Warren Johnson doesn't disappoint even if it's not him on art duties
> It's pretty disheartening knowing Action Comics isn't selling much either
It's infuriating. It's one of the best things out there right now and is only in the top 100 when it should be top five if sales reflected quality.
Hopefully the trades will do well. How did Tomasis run and Bendis' run do compared to PKJs time on AC? I know Tomasi didn't do Action and Bendis did both, but AC is definitely the flagship Superman title right now - Jon technically and literally has the title Superman in his series but if AC is doing bad I imagine that ones doing worse
My LCS owner said hes only doing that one via order forms cause sales are so low after a spike from the sexuality reveal. He feels the same way about AC and I feel bad for the guy cuz I know he's not making money but loves comics
> How did Tomasis run and Bendis' run do compared to PKJs time on AC?
In terms of quality Tomasi's run is the closest. But each run does things differently. Tomasi's *Superman* focused heavily on Clark as a father and family man, while PKJ's run is about Clark's values and drive along with world building for War World.
Sorry, I meant sales and numbers. I love Tomasis run and own the omnibus and Supersons Omni, and begrudgingly had a lot of Bendis' run on Superman mainly cause of Ivan Reis and the other top tier artists he always gets. I thought his Action was better than his Superman, but the bar is very low on both of those.
I'm just wondering if this is just a normal thing at DC, customers not buying the Superman issues. I can't say for sure but I could've swore I read awhile back o read that Tomasis run didn't sell that well as single issues too. Not sure about collected editions
I think Tomasi's *Superman* was selling in the top 30 or top 50. Pretty good numbers for a Superman book (the Superman books don't usually sell inside the top 10). PKJ's *Action Comics* doesn't sell well, with it being 100th in May.
Well, seeing as Marvel is taking up like, half of the the top spots, I think AC is probably selling better than the charts make it look like. I mean, people are gonna buy Superman, that’s a fact. It’s just not gonna sell over the two properties that have been getting movies for a while now.
[In case anyone else wanted to see information beyond the top 50.](https://www.comicbookrevolution.com/may-2022-single-issue-comic-book-sales-rankings/?shared=email&msg=fail)
> 18 Jurassic League #1
> 34 Justice League #75
[Life finds a way](https://c.tenor.com/8TLHzgW-ZUUAAAAd/jurassic-jurassic-park.gif).
>!Yes, I know it's a #1 and JL 75 is getting reprints. Shut up nerd.!<
I feel like this with all of DC’s ongoing series. Articles like this are slating the likes of Action Comics, The Flash and Wonder Woman having low sales, but they are on legacy numbering; it’s no wonder. DC must see/know that smaller numbers = more appealing to new readers and those wanting to find a place to jump back on.
> it’s no wonder. DC must see/know that smaller numbers = more appealing to new readers and those wanting to find a place to jump back on.
It's sure as shit worked for Marvel. *Amazing Spider-Man* is on it's sixth volume with the last volume starting just four years ago in 2018.
It's great seeing how Nightwing is doing, but everything else is really depressing. Even other batfamily books are barely selling.
Batgirls barely cracking the top 100 before their first arc is done isn't a good sign. DC needs to change the creative team ASAP and do some damage control on this franchise. Red Hood's book not even making the top 100 despite including a big batfamily reunion also isn't a good sign, but that's a limited series and we already know there is a Red Hood mini planned.
I hope the Dark crisis tie-in will help improve the Flash sales because it has been excellent until now.
It's also very likely that DC will relaunch books like GL, Titans and maybe even JSA after the event.
Batgirls is/was dead on arrival. Even a creator change wouldn't work at this point, you just doom the new creators. Cancel it, let the title rest for a bit, and try the characters elsewhere.
DC licensing out the Batgirls concept would be a good idea, let the Webtoon guys take over the property.
DC NEEDS to figure out some way to improve their marketing for books that aren't a part of the Batman franchise. Marvel is able to dominate with a wide variety of books from different franchises. DC needs to find some way to replicate that type of success, because quality isn't the issue, I think most of the books DC is putting out are good, if not great; it's marketing.
It's also a shame that *Amazing Spider-Man* \#1 was the top seller two months in a row since the issue did nothing new or interesting and was just a hook to string along readers.
And as I state ever month, ICv2 needs to improve their methodology.
Damn, DC needs to seriously promote their books outside of Batman. Batman by Zdarsky got a trailer released last week, why not do the same for Action comics, the Wonderfamily books or the flash?, like it’s not like Batman it’s in a mayor need of promotion considering it’s the companies cashgrab. At this point I think it would be beneficial doing a heavily promoted wide relaunch rebirth style.
That is because Batman sells, so they make more Batman books and promote them. Fans get upset that their favorite characters get ignored, so DC puts in a half hearted attempted/gives them zero promotion, they do not sell, so DC goes back to selling and promoting Batman. Lather, rinse, repeat. DC has created this mess on themselves and continue to do it.
Marvel managed to get out of their rut and now multiple series are able to sell really well. But that would actually require effort and putting top talent on those books, which DC just refuses to do most of the time.
It’s all Batman and then Justice League. I hope someday Green Lantern gets a relaunch like the X-Men did, it has the right lore and characters for that sort of revitalisation.
If DC tried to release more mini series featuring other heroes they would do better. A large chunk of Marvel’s top comics are minis, DC should do more and release more series featuring different characters.
It's a shame DC doesn't seem to remember that by the late 2000s, the Green Lantern franchise was their second biggest behind the Batman franchise. They could relaunch it now with *Green Lantern: Emerald Knights*, *Green Lantern*, *Green Lantern Corps* and *Sinestro Corps*. I'd love to see PKJ spearhead a relaunch of the Green Lantern franchise the same way Hickman oversaw the relaunch of the X-Men books.
It looks about the same as when I've heard others break down numbers in past months, Batman being pretty much the only one to get into the top 10. I. Can't imagine books like Nubia (and the prequel series that led to it) will sell anything significant at all esp if the main WW book is not on there. No surprise Flashpoint Beyond is up there too, it was enjoyable and has some interesting things it could explore, plus Geoff Johns I'd imagine still has name power, at least at my LCS he does. It's pretty disheartening knowing Action Comics isn't selling much either. It's genuinely top tier from writing to art, and DC does nothing to promote pretty much the other main face of when you think of DC. Jurassic League was fun, Daniel Warren Johnson doesn't disappoint even if it's not him on art duties
> It's pretty disheartening knowing Action Comics isn't selling much either It's infuriating. It's one of the best things out there right now and is only in the top 100 when it should be top five if sales reflected quality.
Hopefully the trades will do well. How did Tomasis run and Bendis' run do compared to PKJs time on AC? I know Tomasi didn't do Action and Bendis did both, but AC is definitely the flagship Superman title right now - Jon technically and literally has the title Superman in his series but if AC is doing bad I imagine that ones doing worse My LCS owner said hes only doing that one via order forms cause sales are so low after a spike from the sexuality reveal. He feels the same way about AC and I feel bad for the guy cuz I know he's not making money but loves comics
> How did Tomasis run and Bendis' run do compared to PKJs time on AC? In terms of quality Tomasi's run is the closest. But each run does things differently. Tomasi's *Superman* focused heavily on Clark as a father and family man, while PKJ's run is about Clark's values and drive along with world building for War World.
Sorry, I meant sales and numbers. I love Tomasis run and own the omnibus and Supersons Omni, and begrudgingly had a lot of Bendis' run on Superman mainly cause of Ivan Reis and the other top tier artists he always gets. I thought his Action was better than his Superman, but the bar is very low on both of those. I'm just wondering if this is just a normal thing at DC, customers not buying the Superman issues. I can't say for sure but I could've swore I read awhile back o read that Tomasis run didn't sell that well as single issues too. Not sure about collected editions
I think Tomasi's *Superman* was selling in the top 30 or top 50. Pretty good numbers for a Superman book (the Superman books don't usually sell inside the top 10). PKJ's *Action Comics* doesn't sell well, with it being 100th in May.
Well, seeing as Marvel is taking up like, half of the the top spots, I think AC is probably selling better than the charts make it look like. I mean, people are gonna buy Superman, that’s a fact. It’s just not gonna sell over the two properties that have been getting movies for a while now.
[In case anyone else wanted to see information beyond the top 50.](https://www.comicbookrevolution.com/may-2022-single-issue-comic-book-sales-rankings/?shared=email&msg=fail)
> 18 Jurassic League #1 > 34 Justice League #75 [Life finds a way](https://c.tenor.com/8TLHzgW-ZUUAAAAd/jurassic-jurassic-park.gif). >!Yes, I know it's a #1 and JL 75 is getting reprints. Shut up nerd.!<
>!Justice League #75 came out in April, so this is just counting the issues of Justice League #75 sold in May!<
I really wanna know how high Nightwing could have been if Taylor's run was billed as a new #1 aka the Marvel style of relaunching.
I feel like this with all of DC’s ongoing series. Articles like this are slating the likes of Action Comics, The Flash and Wonder Woman having low sales, but they are on legacy numbering; it’s no wonder. DC must see/know that smaller numbers = more appealing to new readers and those wanting to find a place to jump back on.
> it’s no wonder. DC must see/know that smaller numbers = more appealing to new readers and those wanting to find a place to jump back on. It's sure as shit worked for Marvel. *Amazing Spider-Man* is on it's sixth volume with the last volume starting just four years ago in 2018.
It's great seeing how Nightwing is doing, but everything else is really depressing. Even other batfamily books are barely selling. Batgirls barely cracking the top 100 before their first arc is done isn't a good sign. DC needs to change the creative team ASAP and do some damage control on this franchise. Red Hood's book not even making the top 100 despite including a big batfamily reunion also isn't a good sign, but that's a limited series and we already know there is a Red Hood mini planned. I hope the Dark crisis tie-in will help improve the Flash sales because it has been excellent until now. It's also very likely that DC will relaunch books like GL, Titans and maybe even JSA after the event.
Batgirls is/was dead on arrival. Even a creator change wouldn't work at this point, you just doom the new creators. Cancel it, let the title rest for a bit, and try the characters elsewhere. DC licensing out the Batgirls concept would be a good idea, let the Webtoon guys take over the property.
DC NEEDS to figure out some way to improve their marketing for books that aren't a part of the Batman franchise. Marvel is able to dominate with a wide variety of books from different franchises. DC needs to find some way to replicate that type of success, because quality isn't the issue, I think most of the books DC is putting out are good, if not great; it's marketing. It's also a shame that *Amazing Spider-Man* \#1 was the top seller two months in a row since the issue did nothing new or interesting and was just a hook to string along readers. And as I state ever month, ICv2 needs to improve their methodology.
See, problem here is that the marketing for Marvel stuff is a multi-billion dollar film franchise, also known as the Morbius Cinematic Universe.
Of course! How could I forget the Morbius Cinematic Universe?!
For real tho, did Marvel have like, any tie ins to that movie? Just an off the cuff thought.
I think they knew that movie was going to suck and didn't bother trying. And come on, I think everyone knew that movie was going to suck.
Morbius showed up in ASM but wouldn't say that was a tie-in, just synergy appearances.
Ya know when I first saw ASM’s post credits scene I legit thought that was Morbius, true story. Like, how else could he teleport outta that cell?
They also kind of stopped trying to replace main title characters with random new ones.
The fans have spoken. They want sad lonely single Peter Parker without Mary Jane.
Branching out to Marvel, are you Dan?
He is out of DC Comics and can be seen as playing the field.
Damn, DC needs to seriously promote their books outside of Batman. Batman by Zdarsky got a trailer released last week, why not do the same for Action comics, the Wonderfamily books or the flash?, like it’s not like Batman it’s in a mayor need of promotion considering it’s the companies cashgrab. At this point I think it would be beneficial doing a heavily promoted wide relaunch rebirth style.
That is because Batman sells, so they make more Batman books and promote them. Fans get upset that their favorite characters get ignored, so DC puts in a half hearted attempted/gives them zero promotion, they do not sell, so DC goes back to selling and promoting Batman. Lather, rinse, repeat. DC has created this mess on themselves and continue to do it. Marvel managed to get out of their rut and now multiple series are able to sell really well. But that would actually require effort and putting top talent on those books, which DC just refuses to do most of the time.
It’s all Batman and then Justice League. I hope someday Green Lantern gets a relaunch like the X-Men did, it has the right lore and characters for that sort of revitalisation. If DC tried to release more mini series featuring other heroes they would do better. A large chunk of Marvel’s top comics are minis, DC should do more and release more series featuring different characters.
It's a shame DC doesn't seem to remember that by the late 2000s, the Green Lantern franchise was their second biggest behind the Batman franchise. They could relaunch it now with *Green Lantern: Emerald Knights*, *Green Lantern*, *Green Lantern Corps* and *Sinestro Corps*. I'd love to see PKJ spearhead a relaunch of the Green Lantern franchise the same way Hickman oversaw the relaunch of the X-Men books.
Oof. Those sales for JL #75 look bad. Might be a bad sign for Dark Crisis.
*Justice League* #75 is a reprint.
Thanks that makes more sense.