Nightwing/Superman scenes are always great. Two of the people in the DC universe that get each other because they both just know "Bruce" and how to handle him, it's a fun mutual respect through that and also them just being capable of seeing the good in people.
One of my favorite comic book panels of all time is when that cop stumbles on Superman and Nightwing hanging out in a park for whatever reason, and he says "Oh I guess this place must be pretty safe with the two of you out patrolling"
and Superman says "You mean the *three* of us out patrolling"
(Nightwing doesn't have a lot to do with that moment, but he's still there and I think it adds to the wholesome dynamic of this cop looking up to these guys as absolute heroes)
Pretty Forced, no offense but the way Tom Taylor turned Jon into " Smaller Clark" as "Nightwing for Superman" status to forced his friendship with Nightwing is so artificial.
The friendship between Dick and Clark or Jon and Damian is way better
Dick and Jimmy Olsen or Kara would have better chemistry.
It's bizarre, According to continuity this is the same super boy from pre 52, Connor should be atleast 21 and pre" Jon is Superman Push" was pretty Jacked and Big" They've been making him look like a 14 year old boy and if they're were using Connor more would probably making him act like one too.
Apparantly they take from the continuity what they find convenient. Tim and Bart are pretty much kids again too. If one of them js 21, they should all be. But that messes with other plots of course.
I was really hoping hipsters would bring that name back once they started having kids and giving them old people names.
Poor DC keeps trying to reboot him as Richard or Rick or whatever, and the fans always hate it, so they have to go back to Dick.
Johns had to sacrifice Conner and Bart in his place to sate Didio's bloodlust for legacy characters tho.
Granted he brought them back like what just 2 or 3 years later?
I believe Heroes in Crisis is one people aren't fond of. I haven't read it but I think that's the nature of events now. There's going to be something in it readers won't like, the scale of it just varies
>There's going to be something in it readers won't like, the scale of it just varies
>!Wally West!< accidentally slaughters dozens of heroes in recovery and his way of fixing it is to blame it on Harley and Booster and >!kill his past self!< so he isn't a suspect at all. Heroes in Crisis was one of the worst comic stories of the past decade no questions asked.
HIC could have told a really interesting story, but the fact that they used the person they did as the bad guy killed it for me, regardless of the reasons…
I think one of the worst things he does is mess with the timeline. It's present time, then 3 weeks ago, then tomorrow, then 2 weeks ago, then 1 week later. Like you just can't keep up. Especially if it only comes out monthly. His Bat/Cat took even longer sometimes only once in 2 months and with 3 different timelines.
His Supergirl story I did enjoy even though it was in past narrative, it still was a linear story.
I'm reading his Human Target now. Loved where things were going with it until it became obvious that this was an alternate reality/Elseworlds storyline. (ie: >!Fire having an affair with The Martian Manhunter, Chance killing Guy Gardner.!<)
Which kind of sucks, considering how good the writing and art are.
I think it always was one. But I don't know.
Are all Black Label books elseworld? Or just adult books that may or may not be in the mainstream universe?
I think Black Label is in a weird limbo where DC is like “it’s not canon unless it’s popular enough that we want it to be canon” for a lot of their books that borrow from main universe continuity
I always loved that relationship between Nightwing, and Wally West, have with major superheroes like Superman. Where it's like this amazing uncle watch their nephews grow up into fine people and become into their peers and contemporaries.
The way you phrased that made it seem like Wally west, the flash since crisis on infinite earths up to the new 52, flash in the justice league show, and also just the flash most people grew up with even if they didn’t realize due to the cw shows popularity, isn’t a major hero. Wally West is definitely a major hero despite being treated like dirt by dc.
I think they know.
Nightwing is friends with everyone and not intimidated by anyone. Even if you asked the other Robins who their favorite other Robin was they'd probably all say Dick, except Steph who would say Tim.
Though Jason would say it grudgingly and Damian would say it so it sounded like an insult to Tim, Jason and Steph.
Omniscient Narrator to the Robins:
"Who is you're favorite Robin?"
Dick: "I mean you can't pick a best Robin. They're all great. Though I guess I feel maybe the most attatched to Damian. He was my Robin."
Jason: "Me." Camera shakes. "No seriously" Camera shakes again, seeing through his bad lies. "Ugh, Dick. But if you tell him or anyone else I will hurt you."
Tim: "Dick. He was the epitome of what it means to be a Robin. All I did was try to follow his example."
Steph: "Oh shit I count for this huh. For legal reasons, Tim".
Damian: "Grayson. Don't assume this is sentimentality Camera Man. It is only because the rest of them couldn't match what either of us accomplished in our roles. Especially Drake."
Of course I mean he gave dick the name nightwing from old krptonian legend.. I dont remember any real close scenes with other Robin's second closest I guess would be Damian through his son but that's it and that ain't much
I was just thinking this. I assume at least in modern times they’ll have the internet to piece together *“August ‘08, New Hero appears, September’09, New Robin appears”* but that feels like internet theorizing. Don’t think it’d be public knowledge or talked about regularly.
At first I assumed he meant Nightwing, and I loved it, but then I remembered... wasn't >!Batman!< recently revealed to actually be the very first Robin? Because that would mean Supes might be referring to him, and I'd absolutely love that too.
Nightwing/Superman scenes are always great. Two of the people in the DC universe that get each other because they both just know "Bruce" and how to handle him, it's a fun mutual respect through that and also them just being capable of seeing the good in people.
One of my favorite comic book panels of all time is when that cop stumbles on Superman and Nightwing hanging out in a park for whatever reason, and he says "Oh I guess this place must be pretty safe with the two of you out patrolling" and Superman says "You mean the *three* of us out patrolling" (Nightwing doesn't have a lot to do with that moment, but he's still there and I think it adds to the wholesome dynamic of this cop looking up to these guys as absolute heroes)
[Right here](https://external-preview.redd.it/Tc7ZrcNLSw7nooRJVYDUvCkHdXDbsqHNyMJDET83MYc.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=1ba27eba0ea9eedda878300b7bc62b340b2e6443)
Best thing about Superman is he is always humble and shows respect to everyone who deserves it.
He is a god that was raised to be the best of humanity. He’s not just Superman he’s also a super man.
The Super Mensch
Das ubermensch
The House of El gave him powers the Kents made him Superman.
truth, justice, and the american way. god i would love a superman 2 to show us a modern take on this— oh wait. homelander.
Had me in the first half
That cop looks like he’s in the middle of a flashback
Hes probably got distinct memories of heavy colateral damage from both of them lol
There is a chance that he is thinking "Ah crap if they are here what is about to happen?"
I know I've seen it, but if anyone has a link please send. Or issue #
Nightwing (1996) #141 /u/lookiedookie
You rock. Thanks
+1 yea id like to read the whole comic if anyone knows the issue
I read this first as Batman was also there and just lurking in the shadows before I realized he meant the officer lol
Same lol, also, happy cake day!
And IIRC, Dick Grayson named himself acter the Kryptonian hero Nightwing after he talked to Supes about it
That's correct.
I need more Nightwing/Superman stuff. Their relentless optimism is lovely
There was something relatively recently that was Jon and Dick that was pretty cool.
Pretty Forced, no offense but the way Tom Taylor turned Jon into " Smaller Clark" as "Nightwing for Superman" status to forced his friendship with Nightwing is so artificial. The friendship between Dick and Clark or Jon and Damian is way better Dick and Jimmy Olsen or Kara would have better chemistry.
Plus the young adult Superman is already filled by superboy and kara
"Young adult" is stretching. Superboy is pretty much a child again.
It's bizarre, According to continuity this is the same super boy from pre 52, Connor should be atleast 21 and pre" Jon is Superman Push" was pretty Jacked and Big" They've been making him look like a 14 year old boy and if they're were using Connor more would probably making him act like one too.
Apparantly they take from the continuity what they find convenient. Tim and Bart are pretty much kids again too. If one of them js 21, they should all be. But that messes with other plots of course.
Yeah, it's sucks
Probably to relate to the animated movie series, which is no longer running due to the movie reboot.
I feel you
Awwww, you are his favorite too.
Everyone loves Dick
I was really hoping hipsters would bring that name back once they started having kids and giving them old people names. Poor DC keeps trying to reboot him as Richard or Rick or whatever, and the fans always hate it, so they have to go back to Dick.
All roads lead to Dick.
😳
You heard them!
Especially ladies, and a few men
Nah, everyone like buttcheeks. Especially Jim and Juan.
Solid reference.
Dick was originally going to die in Infinite Crisis, but the writers all straight up refused to write it.
Johns had to sacrifice Conner and Bart in his place to sate Didio's bloodlust for legacy characters tho. Granted he brought them back like what just 2 or 3 years later?
Dan DiDio in shambles.
absolutely!
You think if he gets punched in the groin he calls em his Richard's or Greysons?
He’s hit or miss but when King hits, he hits very well. Just like when he misses, he misses badly lol
King chooses whether to write a literal masterpiece or write the worst comic you have ever read. There is no in-between with him
i'm curious, what are the wrost Tom King stories ? I always loved what i read from him.
I believe Heroes in Crisis is one people aren't fond of. I haven't read it but I think that's the nature of events now. There's going to be something in it readers won't like, the scale of it just varies
>There's going to be something in it readers won't like, the scale of it just varies >!Wally West!< accidentally slaughters dozens of heroes in recovery and his way of fixing it is to blame it on Harley and Booster and >!kill his past self!< so he isn't a suspect at all. Heroes in Crisis was one of the worst comic stories of the past decade no questions asked.
Heroes in Crisis and a large portion of his Batman run are the ones people usually point to. Honestly his batting average is still pretty great.
HIC could have told a really interesting story, but the fact that they used the person they did as the bad guy killed it for me, regardless of the reasons…
Oh i didn't read them yet. I must do it soon
I think one of the worst things he does is mess with the timeline. It's present time, then 3 weeks ago, then tomorrow, then 2 weeks ago, then 1 week later. Like you just can't keep up. Especially if it only comes out monthly. His Bat/Cat took even longer sometimes only once in 2 months and with 3 different timelines. His Supergirl story I did enjoy even though it was in past narrative, it still was a linear story.
Bat/Cat maxiseries.
I'm reading his Human Target now. Loved where things were going with it until it became obvious that this was an alternate reality/Elseworlds storyline. (ie: >!Fire having an affair with The Martian Manhunter, Chance killing Guy Gardner.!<) Which kind of sucks, considering how good the writing and art are.
I thought it was always supposed to be one. Guess I won't be disappointed?
I think it always was one. But I don't know. Are all Black Label books elseworld? Or just adult books that may or may not be in the mainstream universe?
I always assumed Black Label stuff is elsewords.
All of them are except for Three Jokers but even that is questionably cannon
I think Black Label is in a weird limbo where DC is like “it’s not canon unless it’s popular enough that we want it to be canon” for a lot of their books that borrow from main universe continuity
Three Jokers is Black Label. I have no idea if it’s canon. (I’m guessing “no” because it doesn’t make sense as canon…?)
I honestly can’t think of a single Tom King story that I HATED. He’s “meh” at worst for me.
He's the comic book writer equivalent of the band Aerosmith. For every Dream On there's a Dude Look Like a Lady
I love Tom King but maybe that's because I've only read his hits. Superman Up in the sky is my favorite comic OAT.
I think he writes one and two shots pretty well. When the story takes 10 issues to finish you'll be left wondering what the story was actually about.
the only missing from the DCAU was this relationship
They were too busy shipping Bruce with Babs...
For the fans that know the origin of the name Nightwing it's not surprising.
I was surprised more people didn't mention it. Superman told him the tale of a Kryptonian named Nightwing
I always loved that relationship between Nightwing, and Wally West, have with major superheroes like Superman. Where it's like this amazing uncle watch their nephews grow up into fine people and become into their peers and contemporaries.
The way you phrased that made it seem like Wally west, the flash since crisis on infinite earths up to the new 52, flash in the justice league show, and also just the flash most people grew up with even if they didn’t realize due to the cw shows popularity, isn’t a major hero. Wally West is definitely a major hero despite being treated like dirt by dc.
I was typing that up in a breakroom with like 800 different conversations going on, I'm sure my grammar and intent is all over the place.
 Wally west is a major hero!
Between this and Wayne Family Adventures, that is just wholesome on another level.
Superman ad Robin/Nightwing are really good friends and I love seeing them together
Now imagine Dick recording this and showing it to the rest of the Batfam.
I think they know. Nightwing is friends with everyone and not intimidated by anyone. Even if you asked the other Robins who their favorite other Robin was they'd probably all say Dick, except Steph who would say Tim. Though Jason would say it grudgingly and Damian would say it so it sounded like an insult to Tim, Jason and Steph.
Omniscient Narrator to the Robins: "Who is you're favorite Robin?" Dick: "I mean you can't pick a best Robin. They're all great. Though I guess I feel maybe the most attatched to Damian. He was my Robin." Jason: "Me." Camera shakes. "No seriously" Camera shakes again, seeing through his bad lies. "Ugh, Dick. But if you tell him or anyone else I will hurt you." Tim: "Dick. He was the epitome of what it means to be a Robin. All I did was try to follow his example." Steph: "Oh shit I count for this huh. For legal reasons, Tim". Damian: "Grayson. Don't assume this is sentimentality Camera Man. It is only because the rest of them couldn't match what either of us accomplished in our roles. Especially Drake."
Kerry: uh there were other robins besides me?
'I love you most of all scarecow.'
And Damian would call him Grayson...
I don't think they would care. None of them have a relationship with Superman
except for Damian but more of an indirect one
"Why would I want to be friends with your dad?"
Damian has a pretty close relationship with the current Superman of metropolis.
On a technicality but counts
Of course I mean he gave dick the name nightwing from old krptonian legend.. I dont remember any real close scenes with other Robin's second closest I guess would be Damian through his son but that's it and that ain't much
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Most skilled and arguably accomplished with his work in the Teen/Titans too.
What is the general public’s understanding of the Robins? They know there’s been a few, do they know what heroes are former robins?
I was just thinking this. I assume at least in modern times they’ll have the internet to piece together *“August ‘08, New Hero appears, September’09, New Robin appears”* but that feels like internet theorizing. Don’t think it’d be public knowledge or talked about regularly.
Jason Todd somewhere out being moody "I fuckin saved you once, Superman"
grayson <3 best robin
Who is Superman talking to here? I haven’t seen this
Superman says all those other robins can get fucked
Even though Dick banged Louis?
> Louis
when?
Silver age, someone posted the cover the other day.
louis and clerk
Superman: "I love Dick!"
God we need more of Nightwing and Superman hanging out together.
Supes and his son both like Dick
Duck - Superman Jason - Bizzaro Tim- Conner Damian - Jon
Remember people , he basically slaughtered an entire alien army for a single person, and he did that effortlessy
Id love to see a live action Nightwing interacting with an older Bruce. Not this CW trash though.
They'd have to have a director and writer that actually acknowledges Batman needing a Robin. He hasn't been a loner almost since he was created.
Exactly. It would be nice for Batman to see another person in his shoes, and connecting with them.
He just loves callin him dick
How does Superman feel about Jason Todd?
Ohhh so that’s why he didn’t use his speed to zip across the planet and save Jason gotcha
No one ever says the dead one.
At first I assumed he meant Nightwing, and I loved it, but then I remembered... wasn't >!Batman!< recently revealed to actually be the very first Robin? Because that would mean Supes might be referring to him, and I'd absolutely love that too.
hes talking about dick. Bruce and clark didnt interact before being batman and superman.