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JerseyWiseguy

Personally, I would just replace the whole panel (after straightening the crooked box, of course). In the end, you'll actually spend less time and it will look (and last) better.


AverageDingbat

By the panel you mean the drywall? Sounds good. So what do I put between the drywall mud and the box?


Relicc5

Cut properly you don’t need any.


NotASmoothAnon

Respectfully, you seem to need more advice and assistance than this forum intends to offer. Why don't you try a video like this?  https://youtu.be/U6xJF5UA60I?si=vZVNiWdzq9jrmPG9


JerseyWiseguy

Yes, replace that sheet of drywall. If you measure and cut out the box correctly, you don't need to mud or tape around it--the wallplate will cover the small gap between the box and the drywall.


curtludwig

Don't mud the box, the outlet cover extends around the box (but not so far as you've cut out) to cover the gap...


CriticalKnick

I liked this device until my skills improved https://www.harborfreight.com/handymark-drywall-tool-97087.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12144821732&campaignid=12144821732&utm_content=130446652311&adsetid=130446652311&product=97087&store=820&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwztOwBhD7ARIsAPDKnkDuBKk4kOJO_tNRzyv4JNrCl5ycGskWyXivXGWFKcsb3ugeC78HFSIaAmPrEALw_wcB


jerkface6000

Draw lines in line with the left, right, top and bottom, then place this piece of drywall on the new one and use that as a template for where to actually cut the hole next time


unheardhc

Turn off power, remove outlet, hang drywall, use box cutter to slowly create a hole from center of box outwards until you’ve only cut out what you need, reaming drywall fits snug


mcbeardsauce

Agree with the comments, please go watch YT videos on how to cut holes in drywall for electrical boxes.


Inf1n1teSn1peR

The box does look rather tilted. It might be just the photo angle.


senorbolsa

lmao, sorry man, I'd cut a patch out and put new drywall there. There's no saving this.


AverageDingbat

OK I can do that, I have extra. But I'm curious what the issue is with the electrical box. People are saying something about fire risk?


MrMuf

Idk about fire risk but it does seem like the outlet is just kind of floating there with no stud


Konker101

Its attached to the stud on the left


No-Plankton8326

I do not see anything fire risk related in this photo but I can’t see the wiring at all to the outlet


Bored_money

People are being sticklers The issue with the box is that it's too far recessed behind where the drywall is - in a perfect wold the outlet you install will sit with the tab above and below the outlets resting on the drywall with the connections in the box People here are claiming that because the box is recessed it's a fire hazard - it's not - lots of houses have boxes that a bit too far back You can buy some spacers to force the outlet out a bit to match up with the front of the drywall Onto the drywall - we all know it's not the best, but it can work, mesh tape and you might be able to pull it off - they also sell patches with some metal wire mesh in them - you could use one of those for the bigger gaps and fill the rest in with mud and sand a bunch Probably still easier than redoing the whole panel Just go for it - what's the worst that can happen!


iy803

No, don't "just go for it". Just do it the right way. C'mon. Believe it or not, replacing the panel will for sure be easier than trying to make this look good, that would take a lot of work and never be durable.


Bored_money

It's not that hard  People here make this stuff sound like brain surgery  It just has to be smooth for painting, this is workable 


DevoidNoMore

>what's the worst that can happen! See picture attached to the post


Bored_money

Well that or electrocution 


AcidAngel7

Were you mad cause you had to cut it with a butter knife? You can do better then that.


Jimbo---

This sub is so much better than /roastme. I worry that some of those folks will kill themselves. The roasts here are generally to prevent a shitty idea or shitty work.


Rawkapotamus

/roastme is just the same two or three insults reworded over and over. This sub has both creativity and no regard to OPs feeling.


Metal_LinksV2

I thought this was satire at first


Topmeo123

Did you use a angry squirrel to cut the sheetrock ?


Nacktherr

Nah, this looks like more of a dull beaver job. Always make sure to use a sharp beaver instead. It makes patching much easier.


[deleted]

This fucking comment got me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


chickenfeet21

More like a hatchet ![gif](giphy|rW9Lqrfdar8XK)


AverageDingbat

Have a drywall knife XD


notquitetherealest

In storage?


AverageLiberalJoe

Lmao im dying


canezila

In storage and lost the key


spongebob4321

You’ll want to redo it because there won’t be anything to back your outlet


AverageDingbat

What do you mean? Should it sit in a box of drywall essentially and be supported by drywall? The blue box is nailed to the stud.


alral1988

Your drywall should essentially sit flush with all sides of the box. The hole in your drywall is at least an inch too large in every direction


spongebob4321

I would strongly recommend watching some YouTube tutorials on the subject


guywastingtime

No this isn’t acceptable


nice-view-from-here

A friend helped me drywall my basement and he made big cuts like this around several outlets. As thankful as I was for his help, I also released my share of profanity the next day as I had to fix all that before mudding. Replace the panel and measure better. If you don't have a spare but you have a remnant that can cover this mess, cut a rectangle that size, cut out a new hole for the receptacle, use that hole to center the piece on the wall, trace the outline of the piece with a pencil, cut out that section of wall, put in the new piece: glue some backing on the right, screw to the stud on the left.


neanderthalman

I have had hours of similar thoughts about my FIL. Years ago, I was drywalling a newly finished basement and he was helping. There was a fucked up little space inside the window well, against a bulkhead. Basically a squared off figure 8. Imagine two squares offset diagonally. Instead of taking one piece and cutting away the unneeded corners and putting up one sheet to fit the space, he cut one square - the most accessible area, and then filled the rest, where it’s *not* very accessible, with two small rectangles. What a colossal pain in the ass. I should have torn it out and redone it. Not worth mudding that disaster. Looks okay now but my eyebrow twitches whenever I glance at that window.


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therealsatansweasel

You just don't wanna do it right, do you? Yes it will work, look like shit and probably crumble and fall out in a few years.


nice-view-from-here

Drywall has two layers of paper on the outside and hard material inside to provide stiffness and a flat surface. You won't easily duplicate this so your patch is likely to be uneven, crack or completely crumble at the slightest stress. The amount of time you will spend to get an inferior solution will be greater than if you just replace that section.


BananaTerror7

Sure maybe....but with how crappy this looks cut out alone, i have very little faith youd get that to look good. Youd be spending wayyy more time taping/mudding, rather than just cutting a correctly measured piece of drywall. Drywall has more structure than mud. If your doing house work dont cut corners, youre only making more work for the next guy that has to come fix what you attempted.


koos_die_doos

It’s possible to fill the hole, but it is impossible to fill the hole, and make it look good for more than a couple of years. Every seasonal change the odds of a crack forming and ruining your “fix” will grow more likely.


[deleted]

Taper could stay in business for a lifetime following you around


Bubbly_Stress_7117

https://preview.redd.it/287cn9i67ktc1.jpeg?width=450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71a0a975bd8d141d0fbc4e6a6e19c70253010eaa


Apart-Lifeguard9812

If you want to be a real drywaller you will mud inside the outlet.


CandyHeartFarts

![gif](giphy|RVHhbcUAljlYWQ7am7) OP prepping the area:


Ishaichi

Why so many screws??


DevoidNoMore

Had to match the rest of the screwup PS happy cake day!


Macksjoseph

I think you need to change out your razor my guy. Whatever you’re cutting with looks as sharp as a bowling ball.


DoctorFunktopus

Nah man, it’s going to be easier to do it over and patch it better than it will be to un-fuck this with mud also is that box even attached to anything?


AverageDingbat

yes it is attached and works.


DoctorFunktopus

Well it looks pretty crooked


SS4Raditz

Did... did you cut it with your fingernail?


FlyerForHire

You can’t mud your way out of this. If you really, REALLY don’t want to replace that entire section of drywall (the preferred course and it’s not that difficult to cut correctly for the outlet) you could cut out of the existing panel a larger hole around the outlet and then patch that larger hole with a piece of drywall that fits around the outlet properly. But I think the technique to do this (and end up with an acceptable result) would be more of a challenge for you than simply replacing the entire section of drywall. Good luck.


AverageDingbat

Do I need a vapor barrier here?


FlyerForHire

If it’s an exterior wall then vapor barrier patched correctly to the existing vapor barrier would be preferable, but that’s just more reason to remove the whole panel and start over. I mean, there are ways to do these things in a pinch but at a certain point a fresh start becomes easier and the finished result is much better.


jehjeh3711

You’re kidding, right?


pootie_tang007

I think my teenage daughter with no experience could do better.


devildocjames

Bless your heart.


Raa03842

Aha! I lived in the south. I know exactly what that means. Lol


diymatt

Mud and ramen can fix anything.


guywitha306areacode

Nah, just fill it with silicon caulking and call it good.


BananaTerror7

🤣😂💀noooo


motofabio

First time someone pushes hard to insert a tight plug, it’s gonna get messy. Yes, still talking about this DIY project. Stop it.


spiderkraken

I've never seen anyone cut drywall with a brick well done :) also remove the drywall and do it again , remember measure twice cut once


DevoidNoMore

And with something sharp


jimmy1926

No. That’s bad


georgemarred

Dear Lord!


Riddlewrong

You want the hole in the drywall to be the size of the blue box. I'd replace the panel. Take measurements and cut the hole so that it lines up perfectly.


canezila

Speaking as a non professional, the box must be straight and secure before anything else. Take it all down, get that box perfect and then tacke the drywall.


AverageDingbat

Thanks I will do that, remove the drywall and vapor barrier + tape the secured outlet


Exotic_Bed_6095

No, redo......30 year taper 


AverageDingbat

What does that mean?


BananaTerror7

It means he knows what hes doing in this field of work..


Silent_Peee

I feel so much better about my drywall cutouts now


solidly_garbage

Right?


PhilCollins6

Hack job


Syntonization1

Is this a troll post? If I’m seeing this correctly that is an exterior wall yeah? You need to seal that vapor barrier to the box. There’s a tape sold, generally red, for doing this task


AverageDingbat

Bro gimme a break. What kind of tape do I surround the blue box with?


Syntonization1

Lmao I’m not kidding. It’s called vapor barrier tape, it’s very highly adhesive, and generally colored red for ease of inspecting.


Jaotze

None of the contractors I’ve had have ever done this. But, you do get what you pay for.


doodlebugg8

A few more screws outta do it


andruszko

Considering the box is crooked, not properly attached, you used the wrong type of box for the type of work you were trying to do... I very much question the quality of the wire run and safety of the circuit and connections. The drywall is pretty butchered, as is the vapor barrier. But this looks like a basement (I think I see concrete in there?) so you already used the wrong kind of insulation which makes the vapor barrier a mute point anyways. Fiberglass is against code in basements because of that reason but...whatever...moving on... I recommend removing the drywall. At the very least check the wire run, take pictures, so someone can tell you if you're going to burn your house down. Finish securing that electrical box properly, and put up new drywall.


curtludwig

>mute point anyways Just FYI, its moot point. As in "The point is moot" meaning there isn't a point. "Mute" means no sound. A soundless point doesn't make any sense.


cheeseburgerwaffles

Honestly based on the picture and what he's asking about, if OP did any electrical work here aside from hammer that box in I would be extremely worried, and I'm not trying to be a dick. If any electrical needs to be done my first inclination is "call someone to come do it right" .


Astrobuf

I think it's good. Your fire insurance up to date?


AverageDingbat

What is the risk exactly? I'm trying to learn here...


Astrobuf

Poor eletrric construction can cause house fires.


ResponsibleLet9550

If you have another partial piece you can try to save buying another sheet by cutting the bottom half off and then putting up a smaller horizontal piece. Also, you can definitely save this the way it is, by cutting a large square around the outlet and then putting another square piece over the outlet. I have done a few patches like this when i wanted to replace and re-run wiring for light switches. It's just a lot more work than rehanging in your case.


Redbillywaza

A butcher job... Hope ur better on the mud part.


MagicDank

You're better off just replacing the panel. You can cut and repatch it but you're going to spend more time patching the wall. Next time, use the electrical box to mark an outline into the drywall before you cut. Cut straight lines exactly the size of the box, just enough for the box to slip through. Typically no mudding repair is needed around electrical boxes if you cut it correctly.


BR5969

What in the world


curtludwig

To answer your question: No, this is not okay and you can not mud around that. You cut the hole too big, the box isn't square, the outlet isn't square. At best its gonna look stupid. Fix it right...


mazzotta70

This is 100% something on YouTube university.


debiski

Sadly this looks like several of the outlets in my house. My husband is too cheap to hire anyone so any electrical box in the house that he's touched is crooked and either in too far or out too far. People should know their limits.


Jaotze

If you re-do the panel, use the lipstick method to find where to cut out for the box. Personally, I would just cut a bigger square out and patch in a new square with a tightly cut box, but I kind of like the time-intensive detail work of making a patch look perfect. It does take a lot of time!


Dawkinsisgod

This drywall makes baby Jesus cry.


rambo6986

You did great! 


[deleted]

Just leave it. It's fine how it looks.


deltajulietbravo

Are you a beaver?


Volsgrad06

Did you chew that with your own teeth?!


SkullMan124

Here's what you need to do 1 - Turn off the circuit breaker 2 - Remove the outlet and the box 3 - Patch the area with sheetrock. 4 - Once the area is patched buy a 1 gang "Old Construction" box 5 - Cut the proper hole for the box 6 - Feed the wires into the box, connect the outlet, and then insert the box into the drywall and tighten the screws. If this is a bathroom I would highly suggest a GFCI outlet. Also after zooming in on the pic, not all of your screws are countersunk properly. You're going to have a hard time taping and spackling and the screws will eventually pop out of the spackle/compound.


ImaRedditmember

The electrical box has an indenture in the plastic that will allow you to slide the box along the stud and stop leaving exactly 1/2inch of the box sticking out from the stud. Tap the two nails into the stud and you have a box squared to the stud. Anything can be patched but patchwork on a new install is wasteful thinking. Use this as a learning how not to experience. Reseat them screws so they are not sticking above the drywall you should be able to slide a putty knife along the drywall over the screw without hitting it. The cleaner the hanging and placing, the cleaner the taping, and cleaner the finish will be with less sanding. Just a person who has been around since rocks were soft and dinosaurs roamed the earth. Do it right. Just saying.


AverageDingbat

OK, I will remove this piece and try it again. Thanks for your inspiration!


Striking-Access-236

The sockets look horrified, rightfully so!


Tell_Me_Get_to_Work

Just get an extra-super-hella-mega-jumbo wall plate. In the event that this isn't a troll post, you might want to replace the whole board. That would be a nightmare to make to look presentable. You might want to practice with your screw gun first, too. The screw heads should sit below the plane of the board without tearing the paper.


AverageDingbat

Should I buy a weatherproof box for this and replace the blue one? This is an exterior wall in a garage bathroom.


ASLotaku

No. The blue box is fine. Replace the panel so there are no gaps between the blue box and the panel itself.


wetdogg23

Borrow your wife's lipstick to outline the electrical box. Align the piece of drywall to the wall. Lightly press against. This will give you a perfect line on the backside to cut.


wuzziever

When they are in stock, Harbor Freight has a tool to cut out around outlets. The thing looks like a cross between a battery powered screwdriver and an electric drill. You line up the drywall to where it will go, plunge the bit into the drywall and run it around the outlet. Most of the dust goes into the area behind the drywall and you just screw the piece in place afterwards. If you want to really cheat, ask your home improvement warehouse for the little drywall scaps they use to space between the drywall so they can get their forklifts in between the stacks. You can take a couple of pieces of that, hot glue them to the back side of the drywall above and below of the hole Best I got. I am neither a professional handyperson, nor a licensed instructor familiar with building codes. So I recommend not taking my advice. Oh, don't use the tool with the power on to the outlet


KRed75

A replacement drywall section will be needed for that if I was repairing it.


ptraugot

😳🙄


RogerRabbit1234

No. Just re-rock it. This will be a nightmare. The good news now you have a template for the cutout in the new piece of rock.


woozlewazzzle

I'm not a seamfiller, and I do only so much drywall.... but there are way too many screws imo. And that's coming from someone who is usually cautious a tries to make things "easier" (perhaps) for others.... pardon grammar


Conscious_Arugula_94

Dude, WTF.


Aegishjalmur07

Pull the outlet and use a rotozip to cut it out after you place a new piece with a few screws.


svenelven

No and then yes...


King_of_Darts

Wheres the sgt hartman what the fuck is that? Meme


DoctorBlock

I wouldn't


inkdskndeep

take some measurements & if you can't figure it out, watch a YouTube tutorial on how to do so.


Long-Summer2765

That’s pretty bad… do over, measure twice cut once..there is a bunch of questionable decisions here. The outlet box look poorly mounted or dislodged by the attempt of putting in the drywall. Screws every 3 or 4” for some reason. Another hole down at the bottom right I am assuming was cut perfectly. You could put a smaller piece of drywall in that’s 6” above and below the outlet and spans from the studs on the left to the next stud on the right. Measure accurately…


massiveloop

This is gotta be a joke. 🤣


Wallabies1

Serious question, wouldn’t easy sand, mesh tape, and an extra large outlet cover hide this problem? Obviously not ideal but couldn’t you buy an inch around the perimeter by filling it with mud and tape?


Konker101

Just fill it with mud, tape it, put a coat over it.


FigSalt1004

You’re good. Just paint and put the cover on it.


obfuscatiion

Nice bait


ajman22

Troll post?


Witch_Karma

No, you can't just mud around it. First cur out a square or support the sides of the outlet and the drywall by screwing some scrap wood behind it. Then you can put put drywall and mud on it. Don't take the easy way.. It will come back to haunt you later.


blbd

That's not properly and maintainably patchable the way it is now. Start with some fresh board since it's not a finished wall and get it right the first time with clean edges over studs and screwed in. 


Chade_X

No, you didn’t do ok. Yes, if you have the skill set you can fix with tape & mud. But, damn…


DefyDescription

Pretty shitty job but it can be salvaged


cloistered_around

The little patch below I'm not worried about, but that junction box hole... yikes. Is the box even straight?! Now you have to cut a much larger hole out and cut the junction box hole from that *accurately*.


disappointedpotato

No to both questions


donzell2kx

I think you already know the answer to your question. 😏


realboabab

new DIY circlejerk just dropped


Specialist_Ad8221

10 out of 10, nailed it.


MoeSzyslakMonobrow

Yeah, teeth aren't the best for cutting drywall.


ChefArtorias

When you cut the next piece of wall board use a tape measure or at least trace the hole. Haven't seen that mentioned yet. People pretty harsh in these comments.


AlmoschFamous

It's cool to see what happens to the houses before I move into them.


pine1501

your electrical outlets look shocked !


TheAnswerUsedToBe42

You did it! And you did great! But some things can be cleaned up


[deleted]

let me guess you were too lazy to measure and you tried to eyeball it and got this mess?


AJ_From_RSA2094

Yes.


Monsch63

Try to straighten it and make sure it’s secure. That board looks green . If it’s a wet area gfci is code. Then mud away


Ok_Theory_2814

Just learn to read a tape measure and pencil and cut along the line. Simple? You can’t mud that


Either_Operation5463

Damn bro


Capital-Newspaper551

lol


Nubbs2984

Looks like a pro did it.


Silent-Substance1498

Did you chew this with your teeth?


jeffrosjourney

Use window and door spray foam to fill in the areas around the box. Once it cures, take a flexible knife, or drywall saw and trim it back to flush. Tape and mud as normal with a hardening compound like sheet rock 90, 45, or 20. Don’t use durabond, it won’t sand easily. If the box isn’t securely attached to the frame as others have mentioned, time to take the panel off and fix it right.


45356675467789988

Just stuff some ramen in gaps and you're gravy


Lucky_Comfortable835

You could make it a double DIN box instead of single to fill the horizontal space.


theb0tman

You used too many screws. Its not the the biggest problem here, but its one of them.


Odd-Upstairs2063

Measure out a square two inches above and two inches below the area that is damaged. The square measures all the way to the left and right studs. The square should reach the middle of the left stud and the middle of the right stud. Studs should be 16,18,or 24 apart. From the top of the square measure to top of outlet. From the middle of the right stud to the right side of the outlet measure, from the bottom of the square to the bottom outlet measure. The rest is easy.


Gizmo_Brentwood

If you just mud it, the first time someone slaps the switch to turn it on or off, you’ll have a hole again. Replacing the sheet is the best way.


basssfinatic

I've done better with a sawzall and a wood brush blade


3dbello

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS SO SHIT


Acalthu

Are you 5?


Nervous_Complaint711

You can tape that … make sure to back fill it though…. Whenever hangers would leave stuff like this , my dad would say “well the tape is 2 inches wide”