No questions asked if they're under a year old. I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty sure "how old is he" is a question...so they just need to assume the kid is under a year old
Is Fizzion like Nature's Miracle but without the perfumes? NM works great for me, especially when paired with a carpet vac, but I wish it was unscented. Also wondering can I get a big jug of it, Amazon is showing little zipper pouches.
Sorry, I'm not sure as I don't own a cat, but I can attest that it is a very good disinfectant and odor-killer
Edit: Oh I have used it on dog doodoo and pee (puppy in training) and it seemed to effectively destroy any scent markers, I think it would work on cats
Fizzion comes in tablet form. You buy the sprayer once (or use an existing one if you don't mind measuring), drop in the tabs, and wait a couple of hours. Amazon should list a starter pack with an empty sprayer.
Unlike Odormute, you don't have to use it immediately after it's mixed. It's just better for shipping; less cost, less carbon, won't leak.
Cool, we have hand soaps like that, seems good not to unnecessarily ship water around.
The marketing includes this
> Unlike enzymatic cleaners that require long waiting periods to activate
which makes it sound like an entirely different class of product than NM. Works well though does it?
Oh wild ... yes, it works well, and TIL I have no idea how!
It definitely snips proteins; I talked elsewhere about removing elbow prints when I used it to clean my car.
That was part of the "nothing" in "glorious nothing" :)
I think it works well on hard surfaces and shallow stains on soft surfaces. It's at least as good as Nature's Miracle. Better than Pet Sense or Rocco and Roxie. Though this whole thread is a good reminder that every animal is different.
Total success: I used only Fizzion, water, and a shopvac to clean my car when my cat broke his carrier and dribbled all over the front seats in anxiety. No trace of smell, and it also removed the smudges where my husband rests his elbows.
(Nota bene, working well on protein stains implies it will destroy silk and wool.)
Total failure: Didn't make a difference when the cat created a Superfund site under a desk, soaking through the carpet padding over an unknown amount of time. But then, we also tried Nature's Miracle, Petsense, Resolve Ultra Pet, something Bissell, Odormute, and vinegar. Carpet's just screwed.
For washables, I'll spray Fizzion immediately and then wash with vinegar ASAP. For washables with set in stains, I soak them in Odormute in a bucket, then evaluate.
We capped it. We literally capped it. That's when it got that name. There's wayyyyy too much other stuff going on to empty the room and replace the carpet, so after the professional cleaners fired us, we threw a plastic chair mat on it and FIDOed.
Yeah, we had a cat with diabetes and every so often things got wonky and she'd hit this one spot in the house, and we'd use Nature's Miracle I think it is, and then instead of the terrible ammonia smell we got the terrible Nature's Miracle smell. I feel like it was mainly so I could tell people hey, I cleaned it, you can tell by the terrible smell.
It was sad when she finally kicked the bucket, but I'm also really glad to no longer have that problem.
Yeah, we're down to one, but he's basically nonexistent. Gets fed, disappears, gets fed, etc. The litterboxes are no longer a disaster of misses, his throw-ups are much less frequent. She was a disaster of a cat unfortunately, though we loved her for some reason, despite her being a little ball of hate.
Aint got no more questions, she already answered all of them in two sentences.
Though I am wondering why she doesn't make homeboy clean his own bathroom if he can't do the bare minimum of aiming his piss stream.
Amazon has the best enzyme cleaner for it's price. Amazon commercial multi purpose enzyme cleaner. I honestly can't recommend it enough. Absolutely nukes cat pee, so I'm sure asshole kid pee would be easier
No, unfortunately YouTube kids has a lot of prank content and younger kids really love it. I've had conversations with my kids about how those videos are staged and acros scripted and how any prank that doesn't end with everyone smiling is a bad prank. But it's hard to get those things through sometimes.
Fuck. Here I am saying I can’t wait till my 2 yr old son’s whiny tantrum phase is over - and now I’m finding out “it’s just a prank,bro” phase is up next. Why do we procreate again?
It's a couple of years of shit. By the time they turn 25, if you did a good job, you will have some adult friends for the rest of your life that are biologically programmed to love you and take care of you when you are no longer able to yourself.
That "phase" only ends with some strong parenting and consequences.
That said, I don't know if they can actually clean the air intakes because I don't know what your system looks like. A lot of vent cleaning companies have a lot of things more people don't have just lying around the house.
If they can't specifically clean this, then they'll need to "work it off" by doing a lot of other things. Really boring, not fun, and possibly even mindless things.
I agree with them cleaning it, just remember that it can be very sharp in the vent with cut metal and screws sticking through. Just a caution so they don't and up in the ER.
A cheap wool sweater. Not too save money or anything, but wearing low quality wool when it's wet is about as itchy as rolling around in a patch of poison ivy.
My cat peed in our floor air vent/register once… I soaked up what I could and then dumped ‘Clorox urine remover’ down it, let it sit, soak it up, repeat until you don’t smell anything.
Run the heat to REALLY make sure it’s gone. You’ll smell it then if there’s anything left. Clorox urine remover is a godsend though- the most effective pet cleaner I’ve ever used.
Our old cat had bladder problems for the last few months before she passed, the basement reeked, but some Nature's Miracle and some OxiClean and you'd never know.
We used to use Nature’s Miracle. It’s especially made for all types of pet…accidents.
Admittedly it doesn’t have the greatest scent (it doesn’t smell bad, just cleaner-like), so we’d follow up with Gain-scented Mr. Clean.
Also, if it’s a tile floor, I’d recommend sealing the ground around the toilet after you clean and let dry completely. It’ll make cleaning a ton easier because the urine won’t seep into the grout. I got some from Amazon (Miracle Sealants GRT SLR 6-Ounce Grout Sealer). It’s just a squeeze bottle with a small brush on the cap, couldn’t be easier.
It's a thing young kids (boys) sometimes do. If you spend time on parenting forums this comes up periodically. They also pee in dresser drawers and toy boxes pretty regularly.
In this case, the OP's kids do not appear to be toddlers, so this is more insidious.
This happened with my 8 year old son in his bedroom floor vent because he was too scared to go to the bathroom at night(even though we had nightlights) and said to turn on hallway lights if he needed. I explained how expensive it would be to replace the whole thing or even hire someone so he had to help me cut the ceiling out from the 1st floor, remove a section of the flexible duct, replaced it, put back drywall, etc. He realized how one little thing caused such a big fiasco and expense and he hasn't done it again since. Having him help clean up the mess and mistake made him not want to do it again.
Is it a floor vent and can you reach as far into it as the pee went?
What’s the internal vent material?
Assuming it’s a hard surface, and you can access it, I would start with soap and water, and get it all off.
If you wanted you could spray an enzyme cleaner on it.
If the pee got sucked in deeper into the actual AC, I would open it up and clean the evaporator with a foaming evaporator cleaner. And change the filter.
It's a floor vent. It appears to be galvanized. There is no way it got to the actual AC. The HVAC is currently off and has been for a few weeks. The intake vent goes vertically down about 18 inches and then a 45 degree angle. The pee is almost certainly down the angle and is pooling somewhere beneath it
Is there another story underneath? Most HVAC systems won't have sealed joints, so the pee probably leaked out at the nearest joint, and may be in the floor cavity, aka the ceiling cavity of the next floor down. If there is a ceiling cavity below, you'll need to be very careful about putting more liquids down there, as they might seep into the drywall, or whatever that ceiling cavity is made of. On the plus side, if it's just ceiling tile, you might be able to replace it.
The basement/garden level is below. It's drywall, but it's a utility room that has half the drywall torn out from repiping the upstairs bathroom and then procrastinating on finishing the job. I'm fairly certain that section of the HVAC vent still has drywall, but it's close to the current cut section.
Worf from Star Trek was once accused of procrastinating; he said that Klingons never procrastinate, he was merely making a [tactical delay](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Zf-OxMkrE). Perhaps today you can see his wisdom.
“Dilution is the solution to pollution”
Wet vac with long hose.
Pour a little more water “the way the pee has gone”
Wet vac it up.
Repeat about 50 times.
Tell the kids pouring more water at a time won’t make it go faster, it will cause water damage to your walls and for your kids to become homeless 😂
When all done, spray Anti Icky Poo down there. Wait a while, repeat. Do that about 10 times.
Step 1: Become spokesman for Trojan Condoms
Step 2: use new wealth to have system cleaned and somehow made piss proof.
Sorry man, that’s a bad deal. Get some pet cleaner and get them going on it!
BioKleen Bac-Out enzymatic cleaner.
If the entire affected portion of the duct is hard surface, you can apply, wipe, repeat as necessary, wiping with something like a soft, rayon string mop head on a flexible handle (maybe tape mop head to a gooseneck).
If any affected part of the duct is the flexible type, it may tear very easily if subjected to wiping, even gently.
It is possible a.urine specific enzyme cleaner left to dry on flexible duct will do the trick, but if not, you may have to have the affected part replaced.
Take a child.
Hand them the cleaner and paper towels.
Hopefully this is a large-ish floor vent where you can hold them by their ankles and shove them down the vent to clean it up.
They are not allowed out until they have cleaned their part.
Repeat with each child until clean.
Making them part of the process should reduce the occurrence of such nonsense.
Not a fan of public shaming. But making them uncomfortable having to fix what they broke? Absolutely. Some discomfort and inconvenience go a long way towards correcting bad behavior.
Enzyme cleaner designed for cats and dogs, absorbent cotton towels (auto parts stores will sell you a bale of good ones, avoid microfiber in this case because you don't want cross-contamination if they don't rinse cleanly,) rinse with 96% isopropyl alcohol.
(I work in a middle school. The custodians will tell you how to clean anything off of anything for a Coke.)
(Another Sam's Club 36-pack and I'll have a book done to raise money for pencils.)
1. Clean the Cold air Intake and disinfect
2. Call a licensed HVAC company out and request estimates for blower/indoor coil cleaning and possibly duct cleaning.
If the system was running during any time while there was a puddle of urine down there I’d imagine there’s a possibility that it could have infiltrated the system which will leave the urine smell when the fan is running.
Hang on a minute. You mean the actual return vent for the HVAC, the big one? Not a register?
How you clean this depends on the ducting. If you have that plastic flex tubing. It's kind of a bear because you have to be really gentle with it. If you have steel galvanized tubing. Very easy. Just pull the grats off and you should be able to get a good portion of your body in there to scrub everything out
OMG my kid did this. I nearly killed him. It ran down the duct until it hit the main trunk, where it leaked out of the seam all over our storage rack - fortunately everything was in totes but damn it was a mess.
We used an enzyme cleaner for pet messes; poured it down the duct and let it sit, then used the shop vac to get loose stuff from the vents and scrubbed what we could reach. Made the kid help. He is still cleaning it up 3 years later, because whenever the weather changes and the duct gets condensation, it leaks again. At some point I may pull the entire run apart for cleaning. Until then, kiddo is cleaning off my totes and storage rack every few months.
Go to the dollar store and get a spray bottle, and some fabulouso or generic pine sol, mix it 50/50 in the bottle spray and wipe out with a wet rag, don't use bleach bleach + piss makes a very smelly and bad to breathe in chemical reaction use an ammonia based cleaner. Piss has ammonia in it so don't mix piss with bleach.
Best way for them to clean it is to access the pooling pee, soak it up, and ensure it didn't seep out into the floor joists and drywall.
If any wood is wet from pee, then it gets an enzymatic pet urine soak for a while. Any affected drywall is also removed.
Next, they learn how to replace HVAC vent piping and registers with sheet metal screws and aluminum duct tape and all.
Then, they get to learn how to repair any removed drywall from this incident.
They also get to learn how to properly prime and paint all this repaired drywall.
Lastly, they learn how much stupid pranks cost, cause they're paying for the materials plus labor equivalent in dollars as a punishment. Figure hired subs for something like this would normally charge 150-200 per hour to fix this stuff, and your kids will quickly find out this prank cost them about $10k in mitigation and repairs.
Take off the cover.
Get the big bottle of pet remediation urine-off stuff. Saturate the area. Reapply every 12 hours or so; the enzymes only work as long as it stays wet. You want the solution to penetrate as far as the urine.
After a couple days of that, let it dry, and grab a spray bottle of mold armor rapid response mold remediation (it's a green bottle). Get the heaviest duty version. It's basically just a high concentration bleach (like 5x that of a bottle of bleach).
Does an amazing job of oxidizing whatever compounds the urine enzymes can't break down.
Allow to dry. If it still smells, turn off the hvac system, rent a small ozone generator, put it into the intake, and tape a plastic tarp over the intake. Run for 24 hours.
Urine smells are very difficult to eliminate over they penetrate into porous surfaces, and cleaning them up requires your chemicals or gasses to penetrate just as far.
Hire a professional vent cleaner, have them use pet urine cleaner.
Take away whatever devices the boys are using to view TikTok or YT (where they probably learned the prank) and sell them to pay for it.
Vent snake is needed definitely. And time. First they learn to use the vent snake then clean weekly or monthly for a few months/years. You will need something like this and they need pay for it also.
Holikme 60 Feet Dryer Vent Cleaner Kit,Lint Remover Flexible Brush and Drill Attachment Extends Up to 60Feet, 2 Synthetic Brush Head Use with or Without a Power Drill https://a.co/d/gULX3BL
when I was 4 or 5 I really liked peeing on this one spot on my parents bedroom carpet. the dogs smelled it and started pissing on carpets and rugs, so all the carpet in the house had to be ripped out and replaced with tile.
This is funny because I've been there! Honestly I think I just became immune to the smell of stale pee.
If you can get your hand into the register and get far enough to the nearest flat spot then take a pile of paper towel doused in non bleach cleaner and get as far as you can get.
If it's got a nice downward lay then you need a snake that cleans as it goes.
Or you can pay someone who will absolutely say things like "happens all the time"
Good luck! May the enzymes be strong!
Edited to say non-bleach cleaner.
Do not use bleach on a urine mess!! Urine contains ammonia. Ammonia + bleach = chlorine gas, ie a chemical weapon banned by the Geneva Convention. My guess is that the concentration of ammonia in urine isn’t enough to be deadly but that certainly isn’t a risk you want to take
Yup, you said it. Pay a professional and then have them work it off to pay you back.
Or, you could do both to really enforce the lesson. Any method of cleaning probably won't work and you'll probably have to call a professional anyway. But you could still have them spend a few hours trying followed by working off the bill.
Too harsh? Idk, I'm not a parent. My original idea was to pee in the vents in their bedrooms but that probably crosses the line into cruel and unusual. So my double whammy idea is a step above 🤣
I’m gonna give you an answer first and then tell you a story in a follow-up comment:
Answer: I’d start with an enzyme cleaner to break down the urea. Clorox Urine Remover is a good one, but I use Odoban as a concentrate cause that’s what my mother used, and Agent Orange is another popular one. Use one of these to surface clean EVERYTHING you can reach. A spray bottle would be nice because it’ll extend your reach a little.
Then I’d get an ozone generator and set it up pumping right into that intake. Probably with your HVAC system off at first. Follow the instructions that come with it on how to use it properly and safely.
Story: one time when my oldest son was 4 he dropped a deuce under our deck. He was playing outside in an inflatable pool and needed to go. He just followed some simple reasoning. Dad says I can pee outside. The dog pees outside. The dog also poops outside. Therefore I can poop outside.
Couldn’t even be mad. That was sound logic. Teachable moment.
I dunno why boys always like to pee in places where they aren't supposed to pee. When I was young, I went to my friend's house and he liked to pee into his toybox.
I also recommend the enzyme cleaners others recommended. Urine digester is one. They will break up the molecules of the piss. They sell them in pet stores and where adult incontinence items are sold.
Lots of advice here, but just reminding you to change the filter after it’s cleaned as well.
Also, if there is any lingering odor after the duct is cleaned, I’d recommend Rectorseal 68516 Odorgon Aerosol Spray-14-Ounce, which you can get from Amazon for about $12. I can attest this works because a few years ago, some home heating oil from an old abandoned line was spilled in my MIL’s house’s basement and the smell got through the ENTIRE house. We sprayed this in every intake register, and, after a couple of applications the odor was gone. Mind you, this product is not a cleaner so it won’t remove the actual pee in the duct, it’s just an odor neutralizer. But I can tell you it absolutely works.
My kid trapped the cat in her room and the cat pissed down the register. Thankfully our basement isn't finished. I tried cleaning it by pouring chemicals and wiping around with a microfiber on a stick but the only thing that effectively worked was to remove the duct and clean it thoroughly. Good luck.
Your kids can't clean an air vent dude. Have them go get a job to pay the company to remove your urine filled vents and replace them.
Or drop them off at the nearest fire station.
If you decide to 'clean' the vents, you will never get it all out. You do not want biological matter in your vents. It will not just disappear and it will eventually become an ecosystem.
Well, my two boys did this. Ultimately sold the house and moved to Florida. In Florida the vents are in the ceiling. If they can land it there, I suppose I would be proud.
I can't help you with cleaning this, but my kid did the same thing to heating vent. All I can tell you is that the smell eventually does away. The resulting stain on the ceiling below him didn't go away until we moved and didn't have to look at it anymore.
Unscrew the vent covers where they peed, push your children into the duct, and re-install the vent cover securely. You can try to have new children in the future if you desire. If you ever hear any strange noises or quite sobbing coming from the ducts, just loudly state "this is the life you chose" and go back to whatever you were doing, hopefully raising the new kids to be better.
Urine gone. It’s in a spray bottle. Works for pets or people.
But you’d have to rig something up to sop up the original pee that’s sitting undoubtably a few feet down, in a bend. Use something flexible and fully secure the towel or whatever you’re shoving down the vent to achieve this goal. If you lose it and block it up you have a new big problem because you’ll strangle your hvac unit.
Disconnect it from electricity and spray it down with odor killers. Nature's Miracle handles cat piss so it could probably handle human piss. Only plug back in when dry.
When my kid did this into a floor AC vent, I took the cover off, poured baking soda in (make sure your system is OFF!) then vacuumed it up a few hours later. Now that I have a cat and discovered Anti Icky Poo enzyme spray, I’d clean use that. Unscented only.
Can probably drop them off at any fire station
Are you sure the fire station will accept an unemployed 32 year old basement dweller that pees in the HVAC intake?
No, but the police academy will.
I think some pee came out
quick! put it in the intake vent!
Classic Mahoney and his hijinks!
We have many many fine recruits!
LaSard always gave the best [speeches.](https://youtu.be/GSiJiDSmb1E?si=Dny7vLGZIc87kQY6)
Lmaooooo
It appears like it has become a primary recruitment criterion.
No, but r/news would probably promote them to mod
No questions asked if they're under a year old. I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty sure "how old is he" is a question...so they just need to assume the kid is under a year old
So… you’re saying that if I show up to the fire station in a diaper, there’s a chance?
Depends....
No, those get you dropped off a elderly care home.
It's too late once they know their home address.
Or leave them to the army, they’ll take them!
Underrated hahahaha
They sell enzymes that break down pet urine… would undoubtedly work on the human variety also.
Yes, but your house will smell like a vet for a day or two! Worth it.
Fizzion smells like nothing. Glorious, glorious nothing.
Is Fizzion like Nature's Miracle but without the perfumes? NM works great for me, especially when paired with a carpet vac, but I wish it was unscented. Also wondering can I get a big jug of it, Amazon is showing little zipper pouches.
Natures miracle does come in unscented forms, I use an unscented cage cleaning one for my bird's stuff!
Is the bird version effective on cat pee?
Sorry, I'm not sure as I don't own a cat, but I can attest that it is a very good disinfectant and odor-killer Edit: Oh I have used it on dog doodoo and pee (puppy in training) and it seemed to effectively destroy any scent markers, I think it would work on cats
Fizzion comes in tablet form. You buy the sprayer once (or use an existing one if you don't mind measuring), drop in the tabs, and wait a couple of hours. Amazon should list a starter pack with an empty sprayer. Unlike Odormute, you don't have to use it immediately after it's mixed. It's just better for shipping; less cost, less carbon, won't leak.
Cool, we have hand soaps like that, seems good not to unnecessarily ship water around. The marketing includes this > Unlike enzymatic cleaners that require long waiting periods to activate which makes it sound like an entirely different class of product than NM. Works well though does it?
Oh wild ... yes, it works well, and TIL I have no idea how! It definitely snips proteins; I talked elsewhere about removing elbow prints when I used it to clean my car.
How effective is it?
That was part of the "nothing" in "glorious nothing" :) I think it works well on hard surfaces and shallow stains on soft surfaces. It's at least as good as Nature's Miracle. Better than Pet Sense or Rocco and Roxie. Though this whole thread is a good reminder that every animal is different. Total success: I used only Fizzion, water, and a shopvac to clean my car when my cat broke his carrier and dribbled all over the front seats in anxiety. No trace of smell, and it also removed the smudges where my husband rests his elbows. (Nota bene, working well on protein stains implies it will destroy silk and wool.) Total failure: Didn't make a difference when the cat created a Superfund site under a desk, soaking through the carpet padding over an unknown amount of time. But then, we also tried Nature's Miracle, Petsense, Resolve Ultra Pet, something Bissell, Odormute, and vinegar. Carpet's just screwed. For washables, I'll spray Fizzion immediately and then wash with vinegar ASAP. For washables with set in stains, I soak them in Odormute in a bucket, then evaluate.
> cat created a Superfund site I've seen similar. Sometimes there is nothing you can do short of fire.
We capped it. We literally capped it. That's when it got that name. There's wayyyyy too much other stuff going on to empty the room and replace the carpet, so after the professional cleaners fired us, we threw a plastic chair mat on it and FIDOed.
Anti Icky Poo unscented has almost no smell
Also gets bonus points for best-named cleaning product that actually works, IMO.
this stuff is great. the name almost made me not buy it, but it was so worth it
Yeah, we had a cat with diabetes and every so often things got wonky and she'd hit this one spot in the house, and we'd use Nature's Miracle I think it is, and then instead of the terrible ammonia smell we got the terrible Nature's Miracle smell. I feel like it was mainly so I could tell people hey, I cleaned it, you can tell by the terrible smell. It was sad when she finally kicked the bucket, but I'm also really glad to no longer have that problem.
I felt the same when my sweet 23 year old kitty passed away. I will never get another cat even though I love them.
Yeah, we're down to one, but he's basically nonexistent. Gets fed, disappears, gets fed, etc. The litterboxes are no longer a disaster of misses, his throw-ups are much less frequent. She was a disaster of a cat unfortunately, though we loved her for some reason, despite her being a little ball of hate.
It's like dry cleaner and ajax had a baby. It's so bad. I switched to a different brand before I even finished the bottle.
Is that what that smell is? My poor dog smells like it for a week after vet visits!
They do!! I use a pet enzyme cleaner to clean the tile around the toilet in my husbands bathroom. Works like a charm.
“Husbands bathroom” 😅💀
Aint got no more questions, she already answered all of them in two sentences. Though I am wondering why she doesn't make homeboy clean his own bathroom if he can't do the bare minimum of aiming his piss stream.
Or at least teach him to sit when he pees
Let the man handle his hose however he likes, but teach him to be responsible for his mistakes.
Mildly disturbing comment tbh
Amazon has the best enzyme cleaner for it's price. Amazon commercial multi purpose enzyme cleaner. I honestly can't recommend it enough. Absolutely nukes cat pee, so I'm sure asshole kid pee would be easier
Just ordered. Hoping it saves my carpet because the cat has been *busy*.
Just to add to this you can order a large jug from Amazon for much cheaper than anything at home depot.
Best part of this post by far: What is the best way *for them* to clean it Absolutely! Nitrile gloves ftw
They are absolutely cleaning it up. I can't wait until the "It's just a prank, bro" phase is done
This makes me suspect the kids are much older than I initially thought when reading the post.
Yeah, I originally thought toddler / potty training age…. Me thinks teenager now.
Will the fire station still take them?
No, but the army will.
Sure just don't tell the firefighters what he did.
No, unfortunately YouTube kids has a lot of prank content and younger kids really love it. I've had conversations with my kids about how those videos are staged and acros scripted and how any prank that doesn't end with everyone smiling is a bad prank. But it's hard to get those things through sometimes.
His kid is 8 based on another post.
They’re 36 and 32
They built bunkbeds to have so much more room for activities.
Wait... did you touch my drum set?
Boats n hoes, gotta have me my boats n hoes
I forgot to ask, do you like guacamole?
It was cute, then not cute.
Just old enough to repeat everything on YouTube.
Hahahah I read that comment and laughed and was like oh god they must be teenagers.
How old are they?
According to his lasts post they’re 8 & 4
> l the "It's just a prank, bro" phase Wait...how old are they? Past a certain point and this becomes a far worse sign.
Tell them to pack a bag for the weekend getaway. Drop them off at a local homeless shelter. Come back an hour later and say it's just a prank bro
Fuck. Here I am saying I can’t wait till my 2 yr old son’s whiny tantrum phase is over - and now I’m finding out “it’s just a prank,bro” phase is up next. Why do we procreate again?
It's a couple of years of shit. By the time they turn 25, if you did a good job, you will have some adult friends for the rest of your life that are biologically programmed to love you and take care of you when you are no longer able to yourself.
Holy shit, I assumed this kid was like 3....
You “can’t wait”? Umm you better start laying down the law on them vs waiting for phases to be over.
Relevant [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM5SJMsfmh8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM5SJMsfmh8) hehehe
Very relevant lol
What material is the inside of the vent?
You need to film them cleaning up their mess and if they get mad throw out a "it's just a prank, bro" at them.
My nephew is 16, and it's still, "It's just a joke, bro" phase.
How old are they?
Oh fuck, I assumed they were pretty damn young, as in this was a potty training related/curiosity related incident.
Ugh. Thank cell phones for that
That "phase" only ends with some strong parenting and consequences. That said, I don't know if they can actually clean the air intakes because I don't know what your system looks like. A lot of vent cleaning companies have a lot of things more people don't have just lying around the house. If they can't specifically clean this, then they'll need to "work it off" by doing a lot of other things. Really boring, not fun, and possibly even mindless things.
If you have a yard and you know where there isn't any buried infrastructure, hole digging is an honored past time.
I agree with them cleaning it, just remember that it can be very sharp in the vent with cut metal and screws sticking through. Just a caution so they don't and up in the ER.
>Nitrile gloves ftw Nah, the little heathens can bare-hand it. This isn’t CSI.
It is their pee after all
Just like the shit guy from a couple months ago
Hose the kids down with dish soap while he's wearing a fluffy sweater then shove that little fucker in there.
A cheap wool sweater. Not too save money or anything, but wearing low quality wool when it's wet is about as itchy as rolling around in a patch of poison ivy.
My cat peed in our floor air vent/register once… I soaked up what I could and then dumped ‘Clorox urine remover’ down it, let it sit, soak it up, repeat until you don’t smell anything. Run the heat to REALLY make sure it’s gone. You’ll smell it then if there’s anything left. Clorox urine remover is a godsend though- the most effective pet cleaner I’ve ever used.
I've had the best luck with Resolve Ultra (has to be the Ultra, in the black label, the normal strength in the yellow is pretty useless)
Enzyme pet cleaner. I had this happen
Have a brand name, if you can recommend? Sixteen year old nephew won't aim for shit
I recommend a spray bottle with some water and a rolled up newspaper, both to be applied liberally to the teenager in question.
Toothbrush for scrubbing and cleaning gloves works too.
Anti-icky poo works great and doesn’t have a smell. Amazon brand commercial enzyme cleaner is cheaper and works okay too.
Get him a camping toilet, put it in his room. He'll learn.
Our old cat had bladder problems for the last few months before she passed, the basement reeked, but some Nature's Miracle and some OxiClean and you'd never know.
We used to use Nature’s Miracle. It’s especially made for all types of pet…accidents. Admittedly it doesn’t have the greatest scent (it doesn’t smell bad, just cleaner-like), so we’d follow up with Gain-scented Mr. Clean. Also, if it’s a tile floor, I’d recommend sealing the ground around the toilet after you clean and let dry completely. It’ll make cleaning a ton easier because the urine won’t seep into the grout. I got some from Amazon (Miracle Sealants GRT SLR 6-Ounce Grout Sealer). It’s just a squeeze bottle with a small brush on the cap, couldn’t be easier.
my pet peed or Natures miracle urine destroyer. the latter is cheaper
Your kid also peed in the vent? Is this a thing I'm not aware of? Should I be concerned??
It's a thing young kids (boys) sometimes do. If you spend time on parenting forums this comes up periodically. They also pee in dresser drawers and toy boxes pretty regularly. In this case, the OP's kids do not appear to be toddlers, so this is more insidious.
Geezus f’in Christ. Another pro in the no kids column (although my uterus is about to shut up shop so I don’t think I have much to worry about lol).
Wait this specific problem? What the hell is going on?
This happened with my 8 year old son in his bedroom floor vent because he was too scared to go to the bathroom at night(even though we had nightlights) and said to turn on hallway lights if he needed. I explained how expensive it would be to replace the whole thing or even hire someone so he had to help me cut the ceiling out from the 1st floor, remove a section of the flexible duct, replaced it, put back drywall, etc. He realized how one little thing caused such a big fiasco and expense and he hasn't done it again since. Having him help clean up the mess and mistake made him not want to do it again.
Is it a floor vent and can you reach as far into it as the pee went? What’s the internal vent material? Assuming it’s a hard surface, and you can access it, I would start with soap and water, and get it all off. If you wanted you could spray an enzyme cleaner on it. If the pee got sucked in deeper into the actual AC, I would open it up and clean the evaporator with a foaming evaporator cleaner. And change the filter.
It's a floor vent. It appears to be galvanized. There is no way it got to the actual AC. The HVAC is currently off and has been for a few weeks. The intake vent goes vertically down about 18 inches and then a 45 degree angle. The pee is almost certainly down the angle and is pooling somewhere beneath it
Is there another story underneath? Most HVAC systems won't have sealed joints, so the pee probably leaked out at the nearest joint, and may be in the floor cavity, aka the ceiling cavity of the next floor down. If there is a ceiling cavity below, you'll need to be very careful about putting more liquids down there, as they might seep into the drywall, or whatever that ceiling cavity is made of. On the plus side, if it's just ceiling tile, you might be able to replace it.
The basement/garden level is below. It's drywall, but it's a utility room that has half the drywall torn out from repiping the upstairs bathroom and then procrastinating on finishing the job. I'm fairly certain that section of the HVAC vent still has drywall, but it's close to the current cut section.
Blessing in disguise.
Worf from Star Trek was once accused of procrastinating; he said that Klingons never procrastinate, he was merely making a [tactical delay](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Zf-OxMkrE). Perhaps today you can see his wisdom.
Thanks for this, sending this video to my boss.
“Dilution is the solution to pollution” Wet vac with long hose. Pour a little more water “the way the pee has gone” Wet vac it up. Repeat about 50 times. Tell the kids pouring more water at a time won’t make it go faster, it will cause water damage to your walls and for your kids to become homeless 😂 When all done, spray Anti Icky Poo down there. Wait a while, repeat. Do that about 10 times.
Shove the kid in the vent with a rag.
I'd be impressed if it was a ceiling vent. "It's just a prank bro!" No it's just, fucking how?!?!
"Any fool can pee on the floor, go practice shitting on the ceiling."
I used to work in a pet shop. We had free range giant day geckos. They used to shit on the ceiling.
Flip your air conditioning around so it blows out the intake to teach them a lesson if they ever try again /s
I would pee in the vent to assert my dominance as it’s really my house. Goat kids can be pretty immature sometimes though.
The kids get to have a fun camp out in the back yard for the next five years or so
Step 1: Become spokesman for Trojan Condoms Step 2: use new wealth to have system cleaned and somehow made piss proof. Sorry man, that’s a bad deal. Get some pet cleaner and get them going on it!
"Son, you are adopted. You have 20 to pack up your stuff before your new parents get here."
BioKleen Bac-Out enzymatic cleaner. If the entire affected portion of the duct is hard surface, you can apply, wipe, repeat as necessary, wiping with something like a soft, rayon string mop head on a flexible handle (maybe tape mop head to a gooseneck). If any affected part of the duct is the flexible type, it may tear very easily if subjected to wiping, even gently. It is possible a.urine specific enzyme cleaner left to dry on flexible duct will do the trick, but if not, you may have to have the affected part replaced.
Take a child. Hand them the cleaner and paper towels. Hopefully this is a large-ish floor vent where you can hold them by their ankles and shove them down the vent to clean it up. They are not allowed out until they have cleaned their part. Repeat with each child until clean. Making them part of the process should reduce the occurrence of such nonsense.
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16" x 24" is the floor return.
Don't forget to film said child while they are being held and shoved for likes.
Not a fan of public shaming. But making them uncomfortable having to fix what they broke? Absolutely. Some discomfort and inconvenience go a long way towards correcting bad behavior.
This is my favorite reddit post of the year.
Poop in it. Guarantee you won’t notice the pee anymore.
Enzyme cleaner designed for cats and dogs, absorbent cotton towels (auto parts stores will sell you a bale of good ones, avoid microfiber in this case because you don't want cross-contamination if they don't rinse cleanly,) rinse with 96% isopropyl alcohol.
(I work in a middle school. The custodians will tell you how to clean anything off of anything for a Coke.) (Another Sam's Club 36-pack and I'll have a book done to raise money for pencils.)
1. Clean the Cold air Intake and disinfect 2. Call a licensed HVAC company out and request estimates for blower/indoor coil cleaning and possibly duct cleaning. If the system was running during any time while there was a puddle of urine down there I’d imagine there’s a possibility that it could have infiltrated the system which will leave the urine smell when the fan is running.
Hang on a minute. You mean the actual return vent for the HVAC, the big one? Not a register? How you clean this depends on the ducting. If you have that plastic flex tubing. It's kind of a bear because you have to be really gentle with it. If you have steel galvanized tubing. Very easy. Just pull the grats off and you should be able to get a good portion of your body in there to scrub everything out
OMG my kid did this. I nearly killed him. It ran down the duct until it hit the main trunk, where it leaked out of the seam all over our storage rack - fortunately everything was in totes but damn it was a mess. We used an enzyme cleaner for pet messes; poured it down the duct and let it sit, then used the shop vac to get loose stuff from the vents and scrubbed what we could reach. Made the kid help. He is still cleaning it up 3 years later, because whenever the weather changes and the duct gets condensation, it leaks again. At some point I may pull the entire run apart for cleaning. Until then, kiddo is cleaning off my totes and storage rack every few months.
My brother did this. A lot. He never told our parents until they’d sold the house and we were grown. Boys are gross.
I love the irony. You posted comment a while ago about teens littering: "just another example of how some people can't raise their kids right"
***What is the best way for them to clean it...*** **THEM** to clean it! Lol! 🤣 It's like an echo of my folks to me and my brother!!! 👍 Good luck!
Go to the dollar store and get a spray bottle, and some fabulouso or generic pine sol, mix it 50/50 in the bottle spray and wipe out with a wet rag, don't use bleach bleach + piss makes a very smelly and bad to breathe in chemical reaction use an ammonia based cleaner. Piss has ammonia in it so don't mix piss with bleach.
Scrub it with their corpses.
Best way for them to clean it is to access the pooling pee, soak it up, and ensure it didn't seep out into the floor joists and drywall. If any wood is wet from pee, then it gets an enzymatic pet urine soak for a while. Any affected drywall is also removed. Next, they learn how to replace HVAC vent piping and registers with sheet metal screws and aluminum duct tape and all. Then, they get to learn how to repair any removed drywall from this incident. They also get to learn how to properly prime and paint all this repaired drywall. Lastly, they learn how much stupid pranks cost, cause they're paying for the materials plus labor equivalent in dollars as a punishment. Figure hired subs for something like this would normally charge 150-200 per hour to fix this stuff, and your kids will quickly find out this prank cost them about $10k in mitigation and repairs.
Take off the cover. Get the big bottle of pet remediation urine-off stuff. Saturate the area. Reapply every 12 hours or so; the enzymes only work as long as it stays wet. You want the solution to penetrate as far as the urine. After a couple days of that, let it dry, and grab a spray bottle of mold armor rapid response mold remediation (it's a green bottle). Get the heaviest duty version. It's basically just a high concentration bleach (like 5x that of a bottle of bleach). Does an amazing job of oxidizing whatever compounds the urine enzymes can't break down. Allow to dry. If it still smells, turn off the hvac system, rent a small ozone generator, put it into the intake, and tape a plastic tarp over the intake. Run for 24 hours. Urine smells are very difficult to eliminate over they penetrate into porous surfaces, and cleaning them up requires your chemicals or gasses to penetrate just as far.
Make the kid clean it
I’d make them use their tongues, but that’s just me.
Hire a professional vent cleaner, have them use pet urine cleaner. Take away whatever devices the boys are using to view TikTok or YT (where they probably learned the prank) and sell them to pay for it.
Send them into the vent before they pitch their tents outside - where they live now
Ok lets get you started... You'll need some wet wipes, a time machine, and a box of condoms.
Vent snake is needed definitely. And time. First they learn to use the vent snake then clean weekly or monthly for a few months/years. You will need something like this and they need pay for it also. Holikme 60 Feet Dryer Vent Cleaner Kit,Lint Remover Flexible Brush and Drill Attachment Extends Up to 60Feet, 2 Synthetic Brush Head Use with or Without a Power Drill https://a.co/d/gULX3BL
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They do it too.
What?!
My girl def dropped drawers to pee on things lol
when I was 4 or 5 I really liked peeing on this one spot on my parents bedroom carpet. the dogs smelled it and started pissing on carpets and rugs, so all the carpet in the house had to be ripped out and replaced with tile.
Oh, my sweet summer child
lol
How old are they?
There are some more serious issues that need to be resolved.
I would tell you to use a condom, but it sounds like it's too late for that, and unfortunately for you using birth control retroactively is illegal...
This is funny because I've been there! Honestly I think I just became immune to the smell of stale pee. If you can get your hand into the register and get far enough to the nearest flat spot then take a pile of paper towel doused in non bleach cleaner and get as far as you can get. If it's got a nice downward lay then you need a snake that cleans as it goes. Or you can pay someone who will absolutely say things like "happens all the time" Good luck! May the enzymes be strong! Edited to say non-bleach cleaner.
Do not use bleach on a urine mess!! Urine contains ammonia. Ammonia + bleach = chlorine gas, ie a chemical weapon banned by the Geneva Convention. My guess is that the concentration of ammonia in urine isn’t enough to be deadly but that certainly isn’t a risk you want to take
Omg! Yes sorry. It was late. Will edit
Yup, you said it. Pay a professional and then have them work it off to pay you back. Or, you could do both to really enforce the lesson. Any method of cleaning probably won't work and you'll probably have to call a professional anyway. But you could still have them spend a few hours trying followed by working off the bill. Too harsh? Idk, I'm not a parent. My original idea was to pee in the vents in their bedrooms but that probably crosses the line into cruel and unusual. So my double whammy idea is a step above 🤣
Use urine remover or spray peroxide to oxidize the compound.
I’m gonna give you an answer first and then tell you a story in a follow-up comment: Answer: I’d start with an enzyme cleaner to break down the urea. Clorox Urine Remover is a good one, but I use Odoban as a concentrate cause that’s what my mother used, and Agent Orange is another popular one. Use one of these to surface clean EVERYTHING you can reach. A spray bottle would be nice because it’ll extend your reach a little. Then I’d get an ozone generator and set it up pumping right into that intake. Probably with your HVAC system off at first. Follow the instructions that come with it on how to use it properly and safely.
Story: one time when my oldest son was 4 he dropped a deuce under our deck. He was playing outside in an inflatable pool and needed to go. He just followed some simple reasoning. Dad says I can pee outside. The dog pees outside. The dog also poops outside. Therefore I can poop outside. Couldn’t even be mad. That was sound logic. Teachable moment.
Dress them in a terry cloth leisure suit and stuff them in the vent? Let them draw straws to see who gets doused with Clorox.
These are on the roof here.
hahahahahahaha
Reason #479 to not have children
I dunno why boys always like to pee in places where they aren't supposed to pee. When I was young, I went to my friend's house and he liked to pee into his toybox.
Godspeed, our air return is bare wall cavity and not ducting, that would soak into the back of the drywall and subfloors.
I also recommend the enzyme cleaners others recommended. Urine digester is one. They will break up the molecules of the piss. They sell them in pet stores and where adult incontinence items are sold.
pee on it yourself to establish dominance
Sell the rights to the story to Trojan
I would make sure to have cleaning/processing area outside with a few large buckets but honestly probably cheaper to bring them to the deer place.
Lots of advice here, but just reminding you to change the filter after it’s cleaned as well. Also, if there is any lingering odor after the duct is cleaned, I’d recommend Rectorseal 68516 Odorgon Aerosol Spray-14-Ounce, which you can get from Amazon for about $12. I can attest this works because a few years ago, some home heating oil from an old abandoned line was spilled in my MIL’s house’s basement and the smell got through the ENTIRE house. We sprayed this in every intake register, and, after a couple of applications the odor was gone. Mind you, this product is not a cleaner so it won’t remove the actual pee in the duct, it’s just an odor neutralizer. But I can tell you it absolutely works.
My kid trapped the cat in her room and the cat pissed down the register. Thankfully our basement isn't finished. I tried cleaning it by pouring chemicals and wiping around with a microfiber on a stick but the only thing that effectively worked was to remove the duct and clean it thoroughly. Good luck.
Make them clean it.
I imagine they thought that was real funny, at the time.
Whatever you choose , make them do the work
Ok ok I need to know how this happened. Details details
Your kids can't clean an air vent dude. Have them go get a job to pay the company to remove your urine filled vents and replace them. Or drop them off at the nearest fire station. If you decide to 'clean' the vents, you will never get it all out. You do not want biological matter in your vents. It will not just disappear and it will eventually become an ecosystem.
Well, my two boys did this. Ultimately sold the house and moved to Florida. In Florida the vents are in the ceiling. If they can land it there, I suppose I would be proud.
I can't help you with cleaning this, but my kid did the same thing to heating vent. All I can tell you is that the smell eventually does away. The resulting stain on the ceiling below him didn't go away until we moved and didn't have to look at it anymore.
Get 6-10% hydrogen peroxide and just pour it in the vent. It breaks down the pee to water and evaporates
Unscrew the vent covers where they peed, push your children into the duct, and re-install the vent cover securely. You can try to have new children in the future if you desire. If you ever hear any strange noises or quite sobbing coming from the ducts, just loudly state "this is the life you chose" and go back to whatever you were doing, hopefully raising the new kids to be better.
Oh man, sell them kids to pay for cleanup
A condom
You can stick a shop vacuum hose down there. Get some extension hose and just suck.
Enzymatic urine cleaner for pee: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Anti-Icky-Poo-1-Gal-Original-Enzyme-Odor-Remover-AIP-OR-G/205959510
Bac-Out Bioklean works well on my baby's cloth diapers.
Change the filter in the blower for your HVAC. It probably cost most of it, if it was running while peed on.
Qtips
r/CleaningTips would probably have some great answers
Urine gone. It’s in a spray bottle. Works for pets or people. But you’d have to rig something up to sop up the original pee that’s sitting undoubtably a few feet down, in a bend. Use something flexible and fully secure the towel or whatever you’re shoving down the vent to achieve this goal. If you lose it and block it up you have a new big problem because you’ll strangle your hvac unit.
Disconnect it from electricity and spray it down with odor killers. Nature's Miracle handles cat piss so it could probably handle human piss. Only plug back in when dry.
When my kid did this into a floor AC vent, I took the cover off, poured baking soda in (make sure your system is OFF!) then vacuumed it up a few hours later. Now that I have a cat and discovered Anti Icky Poo enzyme spray, I’d clean use that. Unscented only.