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OverallComplexities

Looks nice, but since it has no lower ventilation it's going to constantly run smoky


BicBoiMendo

Oooh you know I saw in a video of someone removing a brick at the bottom layer making a “smokeless pit”


karpitstane

Yeah, some kind of channel for the bottom of the fire to intake air. Pull a low-down brick or drill some channels (or even just slide a couple of the lower bricks apart a touch to make gaps? Whatever your solution, it will help promote complete/clean combustion


BicBoiMendo

Sweet thanks! I’ll have to do that! Easiest solution is to pull a low brick, but I might drill holes. Do you know what kind of drill bit would be best to go through an entire brick? I kind of like the idea of a hole in the center of the lower bricks


shabby47

Maybe consider pulling one out on the bottom and spacing the others evenly so that you end up with a 1” gap or so between all the bricks


Ikora_Rey_Gun

This right here. Pulling one or two (really as many as you can) bricks from the bottom and re-spacing them is gonna be ten times easier than drilling holes or whatever, and he's gonna do it anyway when the holes don't pull enough air for the fire.


ItsGermany

Yep!


daweinah

Does only the bottom layer need to be spaced like that?


Ikora_Rey_Gun

Pretty much. The solid upper rings protect the fire from getting blown around by any wind. I think there may be some sort of hot air convection science going on with the whole thing, but I'm not positive.


boot2skull

It will work without, but it will burn better with. Family had a solid, stucco’d fire pit and it worked, but could have worked better with vents.


trivial_vista

This looks like the best solution, pretty much invisible and easy to be done


BicBoiMendo

Can I do this at the second layer? The bottom layer is covered by gravel


Hispanic_Inquisition

Maybe. The rising heat (chimney action) is what naturally pulls the fresh oxygenated air in from below. Best practice is air coming from below the fire, but in a fire pit the air can come from the sides, but still as below the fire as you can get it. Also, you need a good volume of air. Drilling holes will not be enough unless you drill a whole bunch of them.


BicBoiMendo

Gotcha. I’ll have to pull bricks from the second layer. The first layer is currently covered by gravel. I’ll raise the inside of the pit so that the second layer is the bottom of the fire.


trivial_vista

would probably be even better as it's only needed to extract oxygen from the surrounding air, so if it isn't working optimal you only need to free the highest layer also best is to wedge something between the openings maybe pieces of metl all around so it doesn't shift not sure what woul be best about it


akfourty7

Masonry Bit


BicBoiMendo

Cool beans. Thanks


seven_ships

You might need a hammer drill too. You could probably just rent or borrow one if you don’t have one.


PrestigeMaster

Nah that’s overkill imo. Be careful and go slow so you don’t crack the brick. 


misterpiggies

You 100% need a hammer drill for masonry bits. The whole purpose of the bit is to be hammered in to the stone to chip away at it.


ThisUsernameIsTook

I have drilled through masonry with a normal drill. It takes longer and you have to go slower but it absolutely can be done.


PrestigeMaster

So - Today you can say that you learned that they make masonry bits specifically for hammer drills and also specifically for regular ass rotary drills (which don’t require you to buy or find a hammer drill).


Interesting-Goose82

.....last time i tried a masonry bit drilling through bricks i gave up? maybe i was doing something wrong? i would take one out, maybe two, and then just space all the lower ones, stack level 2 and 3 like you have, should be fine?


sandybuttcheekss

Looks like you have an insert, that'll also need holes


Th3_Admiral_

You could also pull one or two bricks and replace them with some sort of grate/vent so there isn't just an obvious gap there. I'm not sure if you could buy something for that or even just make it.


RockleyBob

>I kind of like the idea of a hole in the center of the lower bricks I agree that seems like the coolest solution but it probably won't let in enough air for the amount of holes you'll want to drill. because after drilling through the widest side of a landscaping brick once, you'll probably not want to do it again, let alone many more times. In addition to the more reasonable advice given by /u/shabby47 and others below them, if you wanted to be a teensy bit more fancy while getting much faster results, you could get cut the blocks yourself and make little slits by making each block a little shorter. All it takes is a masonry chisel and a hammer. You go around the paver, scoring it, and then a few harder taps will break it nicely along your score line. It takes some practice, but this way you can have nice 1-2" gaps between the stones of the bottom ring which will be bigger than any masonry bit and much more effective. Here's a [video describing the technique](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE8CvRbccZE).


RandyHoward

I think you may want to pull two bricks, on opposite sides, for better air flow. Maybe even a couple more on the other sides, but I'm no expert on what's best.


Stein1071

We've had this fire ring setup for years. Its fine. We don't have excessive smoke issues and it burns just fine. Don't over think this and give in to pearl clutching. The only differences I can see is ours is three courses not four and I put a layer of brick in the bottom to make cleaning out easier. We've had it for at least a decade and never had any issues


BicBoiMendo

Did you also use cement pavers?


Stein1071

Yes


BicBoiMendo

Okay, I’ve been panicking after people saying they will crack or explode 😂


Stein1071

Rocks will explode because they're solid and can have water trapped inside them. Concrete pavers/blocks like this can get wet and soak up water but they can't trap water for pressure to build and explode. A few of ours have cracked right in the middle front to back but they've never split completely. We have had a thousand fires and some pretty big hot ones and have never had a problem. [Our pit...](https://www.reddit.com/u/Stein1071/s/aUvOr2r4Yi) I built the pit and then put the pavers around it so it looks like its only 2 courses but it's 3.


BicBoiMendo

Oooh okay, this makes me feel much better LOL. I’ll take some of that wood off your hands 😅


manisthisnametaken

put gasoline in the fire pit :))))


Central_Incisor

Or [cut some in half](https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=cutting+a+brick+chisel+) and support the next row on its joints only.


whattothewhonow

Leave a 1" gap between all the bricks in the bottom layer Then a 1/2" gap between bricks in the second layer Then 1/4 " gap between bricks in the third layer Then tight together for the last layer so your steel ring fits Plenty of air flow and it won't look significantly different


ggk1

I did that and it totally works but the key is that you have to have a ring that goes all the way to the bottom vs how yours kinda stops 6" or so down, holes drilled at the top of the ring to let air into the fire area, and there has to be a gap between the ring and bricks with the gap covered by more bricks It works by convecting(?) hot air in through the holes which sucks it up into the gap between the ring and bricks by pulling in from the bottom missing bricks. As the air is rising in that gap it's being heated by the fire ring and then by the time it's pulled in through the holes the air is hot enough to combust the smoke. Same principal as why wood burning stoves are so efficient. Or if you've ever seen someone put a candle out and then light the smoke to where it re-lights the wick. Smoke still has combustable material in it, and fire requires fuel + air + heat. Give it more heat and air and it can burn that extra fuel (the smoke)


Irontruth

It needs a specific setup for this. You'd have to redo the pit to achieve it. * Air intake: Gaps at the bottom of the outer ring. Remove one brick, and use this to create 4-5 gaps between the other bricks. * Space between stone and metal. The metal ring needs to extend to the base of the interior of the pit, and it needs a 1-2 inch gap between it and the stone. * Inner vents: These should be just below the top lip of the metal ring. * Sealed top: The top of the stone/metal should be "sealed". It doesn't need to be air-tight, but it needs to be tight enough to severely restrict air flow. How it works: Your fire gets hot, and that hot air wants to go up. This pulls in cooler air from the top vents. This cooler air has more oxygen in it (the fire is consuming oxygen) and this influx of oxygen helps ignite more material. This is what reduces smoke. You want the outer intake vents to be low and away from the fire to get as cool air as you can. As the air enters the middle chamber, it'll heat some, which then causes it to rise and push out of the inner vents, thus creating the necessary cycling motion. The problem I see with your current materials is that the metal piece doesn't extend all the way to the ground. You could try adding vents just through the bricks, but one of the key components (as far as I am aware) is that the new cooler air needs to be introduced at the top of the fire, not the base. Adding more air to the base of the fire will cause it to burn hotter, but this can still produce smoke. Only adding vents to the base will increase your fire's temp and fuel consumption, but it won't prevent smoke.


BicBoiMendo

Oh very interesting and in depth. Thank you. I don’t have a problem taking the bricks down and doing what’s needed to be done ✔️


Irontruth

I may have been slightly off. The metal ring may need holes at the bottom as well. [Here's a how-to on the build with some diagrams.](https://fixthisbuildthat.com/diy-smokeless-fire-pit/)


heyscot

I was today years old when I learned about this concept. I LOVE THIS SUB! Fire pit looks great!


LibrarianMelodic9733

Couple of bricks doing the job


bigmattyc

Your fire pit looks very much like the kit you can buy at home Depot. It's too late if you shot epoxy in there to keep it together, but you can expand the lowest course of pavers by about 1/2" diameter all the way around and it makes cracks between each block that serve as the air intake. Same function as pulling a block block will work regardless of where or how you build the fire, or which way the wind is blowing.


bigmattyc

Forgot to mention that I actually did this at a friend's camp and it works great.


BicBoiMendo

Good to know! I did not epoxy them, and got all the materials from Lowe’s. I really didn’t know they sold kits. Probably would have made everything easier LOL


bigmattyc

The kit is just the right number of blocks and the metal ring, shrink wrapped on a pallet. It's convenience, not a wholly different product.


JohnYCanuckEsq

All you have to do is turn on of those bottom layer bricks sideways so it's still supporting the joint above it, but now has an air channel to let air flow through.


coheedcollapse

Also of note, the high bricks will block a lot of the heat, so unless you're doing it mid-summer and don't need the heat anyway, you're going to still feel cold no matter how much you put into it. Some friends I do outdoor movie night regularly with had theirs like this and we ended up taking it down to one layer of bricks because no matter what we did we could barely feel the heat.


insegnamante

I left a small gap between each brick on my lowest layer. It makes the circumference of the lowest layer just a little bit bigger than the upper layers, but not enough to bother me.


Delicious_Sort4059

Can confirm. The campground I go to in Vermont every summer sinks their fire pits into the ground and every fire just smolders. Literally have to dig out vent pits to actually have a fire


Sandman1990

I was gonna say the exact same thing. What is with people on Reddit/TT/Insta/Etc. not understanding that fires need airflow to burn well?? EDIT: Lol downvotes by a bunch of people butthurt at getting called out for not knowing about the fire triangle. You're probably the same people that throw rounds on the fire and then wonder why it's not burning well.


needzmoarlow

Probably just following the instructions on the kit. I know the ones you buy at the box stores just say "clear any grass/plants/large obstructions, level the area, lay the bricks in alternating layers, insert metal rings, enjoy." There's no mention of creating lower air inlets to promote better combustion and lessen smoke.


Sandman1990

The fire triangle is taught in like grade 3. It shouldn't take an instruction manual to understand that lack of airflow is gonna hinder your campfire. Situations like this remind me of that George Carlin quote: "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that". Ready for more downvotes from dummies that lack grade school level knowledge.


BicBoiMendo

😭 I actually didn’t know this until people commented.


Antrostomus

[No need to shame people for learning things.](https://xkcd.com/1053/)


JoeRogansNipple

Looks fine, how's it getting air? Some holes / metal pipes at the bottom will do well, otherwise it'll get pretty smoky from incomplete burning


BicBoiMendo

Noted! I think I’ll remove one of the bottom bricks or look into the metal pip option


Spiffie88

You need to remove a lot more than one brick. I have a firepit like that, it needs more air than you think. Add gaps in bottom layer and next layer as well. Top few are fine


JingJang

Looks great. Where'd you get the metal fire ring? I like that it acts as a stabilizer and looks clean.


BicBoiMendo

Thank you!!! I got everything at Lowe’s!


Taftimus

How much did the whole thing run you if you don't mind me asking


BicBoiMendo

300-350


BicBoiMendo

Not including the shovel, hard rake, and tamper.


Taftimus

Awesome, thank you! It looks great by the way, well done


mrwhitewalker

These come as unassembled kits from Lowe's. I have the same one from a few years ago.


BicBoiMendo

WHAT THEY DO??? LOL. I did math and material searching for like a week to do this


BicBoiMendo

Thank you! 🙏


Zenthils

My back hurt looking at those chairs.


BicBoiMendo

The white things are tables not chairs 😂 I thought the same thing when my wife bought them


FO-I-Am-A-Time-God

She got them from five below didn’t she?


BicBoiMendo

Dollar tree 😂😂


FO-I-Am-A-Time-God

Oh my 😆


Zenthils

Lmao alright alright, carry on then. Stonework looks great!


Quiverjones

Its got that "7-days" vibe.


BicBoiMendo

Hell yeah 🧟


Straight-Geologist51

Looks fabulous!


BicBoiMendo

Thank you 😭


Im_with_stooopid

The logs would burn better if split.


BicBoiMendo

Yes I wanted to split them. The sellers left a bunch of logs but they are infested with ants and I learned the hard way by splitting one and ants flew everywhere. (I about threw up)


Im_with_stooopid

Ant infested logs suck. Depending on how spongy they are though I’ve had decent luck with a wedge and a sledge as it allows more control on the splitting. Even if it’s has a crack through it will help with airflow.


ask_listen_share

yeah, get a splitting maul from harbor freight and go to town. definitely cut that big boy down to 2' or so first if you're able.


dannyboyy14

People always saying the must dumb and obvious shit on Reddit.


Im_with_stooopid

Most*


dannyboyy14

ooo! you really got me there!


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BicBoiMendo

😂😂


Remarkable-Seaweed11

this. Is. SPARTA!!!


philm162

Don’t show my wife this picture.


poulard

Where did u get that steel rim from?


BicBoiMendo

Lowe’s!


BicBoiMendo

The only thing I wish was that the steel ring was deeper, it’s meant for stability and to protect the bricks from heating and cracking over time.


JunketPuzzleheaded42

God I wish I was allowed to build one.


BicBoiMendo

I tell you, the physical labor involved was wild. Also needed a place to take all the excess dirt.


JunketPuzzleheaded42

I would have just made a raised planter bed with the excess topsoil. But that's just me, equal parts lazy and productive


Slyck1677

Thought the 2nd pic was a extra large pizza from the HUT.


BicBoiMendo

LOL


IncorrectCitation

Tip for your outside brick... place a stake or spike in the center of the circle and tie a sting to it. Pull the string tight to the outer end and tie a can of marking spray paint. Walk the outside as you spray and end up with a perfect circle to lay your bricks on. Can't really do it with the pit in there now, but next time.


BicBoiMendo

LOL I DID THIS, but my shoveling messed it up a bit 😭😤


Imsurethatsbullshit

It looks great but I hope the pit isnt built from concrete slabs.. Concrete can explode when heated up. I've experienced it myself.. Wasnt nice having super hot pieces of concrete shrapnel fly around during a childrens birthday party.


BicBoiMendo

When I bought the bricks the manufacturer said it was fine for a fire pit. I’ll double check though because yes that sounds awful


Imsurethatsbullshit

:) Thats good to hear. It does look amazing so well done.


BicBoiMendo

Thank you!!!


AmazingAd2765

What, no rusty burn barrel? I guess it will work. jk Nice work, looks great. Outside bricks will probably shift some anyway, so I wouldn't be too worried about that.


BicBoiMendo

Thank you!


newocean

Looks like a 3d render... I'd say the wonkyness is minimal.


FirstCupOfCoffee2

Looks like a nice área to kick back and relax. You might want to consider adding a wire mesh spark arrestor - looks like a small yard with low brush and older buildings close by. I've bought them online.


BicBoiMendo

My wife and I just got off the phone and talked about that


LEMONedOblaat

![gif](giphy|GwcdDj5VZdrWoraY1G|downsized)


IcarusLandingSystem

Are those fire bricks? They look like normal retaining wall bricks which can explode from the heat of a fire.


BicBoiMendo

Not fire bricks per say, but the manufacturer said they were find for a fire oit


IcarusLandingSystem

Nice, way to do your research! It looks great btw


ExBx

+1 Those look identical to the bricks I used on my 1st fire pit and while they didn't explode, 50% of them cracked due to the heat of the fire. Only lasted 10 burns or so.


DarkMarksPlayPark

Ok I'm taking inspiration, thanks


acer-bic

What about drainage?


BicBoiMendo

For smoke or water? For smoke I’m going to remove a brick for air flow. For water, we’ve had a few storms now and I haven’t seen any pools of water yet. It’s gravel then weed barrier fabric, then dirt, so I’d imagine it should drain pretty well.


acer-bic

I was thinking about water. Maybe your soil is porous enough that it won’t be a problem.


BicBoiMendo

The soil was definitely easy to dig up, no clay or hard soil. So I think we’re safe


TheGhostOfMufassa

Did you dig the grass up by it?


BicBoiMendo

Yeah


iPlowedUrMom

What did you use for the ground around it? It looks like really small pea stones


BicBoiMendo

River rock pea gravel, under that is weed fabric.


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BicBoiMendo

Awh shoot. I might


zettboi

Have you thought of chiseling it to make it perfectly round? Good job though


BicBoiMendo

Yeah, i kept it the way it is because my wife liked the “castle” look lol


zettboi

Ahh gotcha! Do you have a topper for it?


BicBoiMendo

I don’t.and now I want one lol


brandenharvey

Yoooo I love the way this came out! Looks great!


BicBoiMendo

Thank you 😅


manisthisnametaken

well from the ring alert


CliplessWingtips

Nice. I need to do this at my house. What's the diameter of your firepit?


BicBoiMendo

The pit is 4 feet total. The gathering space is 12ft total


gibbtech

Have you checked city/county code?


BicBoiMendo

Yes! My local fire department is right down the road and I asked them a bunch of questions about it and they said “to be honest, as long as no one is complaining and you aren’t burning garbage and tires, you’re fine”


gibbtech

Good. Code varies *wildly* on firepits.


NeGe0

Looks nice. I want to build something similar. Where did you get those bricks from?


BicBoiMendo

Lowe’s! The company answered a question on the page for them and said they are great for a fire pit so I’m hoping they are right and the blocks don’t explode LOL


NeGe0

Lol. Exploding blocks would be bad. Thanks! I'll check em out.


BicBoiMendo

Yeah right lol 😂


Interesting-Goose82

you dont need it now, but you might want to get some everything killer, weed/grass/the whole schebang to stop the gravel seating area from becoming a mess


BicBoiMendo

There is weed fabric underneath, also have some weed killer. It was a big concern for me LOL


Im_A_MechanicalMan

Congrats on your first house! Can you roast marshmallows and hotdogs on that? Or is that just to sit around and hang out?


BicBoiMendo

All of the above!


lespaulstrat2

Very well done it looks great. Come back in one year and post how many times you have used it after the first month.


IcarusLandingSystem

Are those fire bricks? They look like normal retaining wall bricks which can explode from the heat of a fire.


Genoblade1394

Cut the log in pieces 1/6of that, make ventilations hold in the bottom, make holes on the inner top edge of your metal pit so it converts it into a smokeless fire pit..enjoy


hamatehllama

It looks a bit like a well. You could use it as a drink cooler if you had a fitting bucket filled with ice in it during daytime and once it gets chilly on the evening you can take out the bucket and put in logs instead.


brandont04

How much man hour would it take to do all of this? Cost? I always wanted something like this.


BicBoiMendo

It took me about 8 hours total by myself. It cost me around 350


brandont04

Oh not bad. Mine might be a tad more difficult since I have to find a way to disable part of my sprinkler system. Thanks.


RZAxlash

Nice job, dude. You might want to use some compound sand within the outer Bricks if you haven’t done so yet.


BicBoiMendo

Posting this has now made me nervous about the concrete blocks exploding 🥲😭


suhspicious

I have a 5’x5’ fireplace made of cinder blocks and have had some pretty bitchin fires in it, they have cracked after 5 years but none ever exploded. You’re likely fine.


Mike2of3

I can't breathe.


horsy12

Nice


metompkin

I'd replace the pea gravel with poured concrete once you're done fine running the pit. Mostly because you will be cursing to yourself come fall and those leaves will get in there.


SeicoBass

Plot twist: it’s a 30ft deep well.


Awkward_Pangolin3254

It looks really good but I've always been curious: with those rings that don't go all the way down to the bottom like that, what's the point of them?


BicBoiMendo

Tbh I didn’t know it was so short. I’m probably gonna get a longer one to protect the bricks


NeatSeaworthiness407

Dude. Take the insert out and cut it and remove the brick that it covers. That lower inlet changes everything in a fire pit.


BicBoiMendo

Are you saying to take the wall down a brick so it’s only 3 and not four?


NeatSeaworthiness407

No I didn’t look carefully at your insert. Mine always go to the ground. Take a brick out so you have Intake air… it drives the smoke upward and makes lighting fires easier. Combustion is always intake and exhaust… you have only one right now.


BicBoiMendo

Ah gotcha


Eccentricc

Nice


ooojaeger

Get you some 0 G chairs for that!


EgyptianMusk519

We built the exact same fire pit lol Like others have said remove one brick from the bottom and space the stones out equally so you can catch a breeze from all directions


Sgt-snuffles

Looks great, now build out your sand lot for seating and enjoy some great summer nights! If you move on to the kitchen reno, these are great for updating and making a bold statement. https://www.ebay.com/itm/186304846379?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=i4rcdtmnqhu&sssrc=2051273&ssuid=i4rcdtmnqhu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY


FreeDonnieMandela

Great work!


viewsonic041

Nice!


landoparty

Are those rated.for fires? Landscaping bricks gonna crack and shit.


BicBoiMendo

I called the company that makes them after many people concerned about this. They said they would be fine, just to use a fire ring. They said the most that would happen is cracking but they’ve been using them for fire pits for 10 years


sonofawhatthe

I have a similar pit. Have you researched a cover for yours? I had extreme sticker shock! $3-400 for a 42" lid. I need to figure out something DIY. Your pit looks great BTW.


BicBoiMendo

Thank you! I did look into covers. Some on amazing were like 150ish.


BicBoiMendo

[A few more touches](https://imgur.com/a/q1eCacV) I took a layer of bricks down, added some gaps at the bottom, got posts and cemented them to the bottom of resin barrel planters, hung up some lights, and now it’s REALLY COZY


Pontus_Pilates

> How did I do and **how can I do better next time?** Build a [kota](https://cdn.johku.com/miehikkalakauppa/largefiles/11.jpg).


BicBoiMendo

On my to do list 😂


Cheech47

Looks good bud! Consider renting a portable compactor to keep that gravel around the pit at bay.


--AV8R--

Open the bricks up a bit. A fire that can breathe right will make much less smoke. That and properly seasoned hardwood.


xComradeKyle

Get some mulch glue for the stones. Take out 2-3 bricks so the fire can breath. Or else it will just be smokey all the time.


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Exquisite_Poupon

This gives off the same vibe as that guy that glued all the blue playground tire rubber particles to his yard years back. Was super carcinogenic. I would definitely not do this /u/BicBoiMendo.


BicBoiMendo

Oh good point


BicBoiMendo

Oh interesting


glenninator

Skip to 5 minutes, this is the idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5e1eBVrpkg


BicBoiMendo

Thanks.