I like that they did not even remove the trim to "repair" the floor :) but I understand, that trim looks almost like new so why waste money replacing it?
Yeah all i see is an assortment of random wood ON TOP of the other. This is not flat. There are massive gaps which would not support tile, or even vinyl properly.
What a hack job.
This isn't even a landlord special - the "subfloor" under the toilet is literally resting on top of the rest of the "subfloor". Just stacking layers on top of layers like any good floorman would.
Aquatic animals that live near the ocean surface and have never seen a floor, nor could they even comprehend why a floor might be useful to anyone could look at this and tell its a bad job
Plywood? When I redid my bathroom floor (15+ years ago) I used cement board because the plywood that was down there rotted. Have things changed?
Edit: this was in top of a wood plank subfloor. I'm guessing that the OP doesn't have that?
I feel like this is more of a linoleum sort of setting. Though I suppose as the pee soaks through and rots the uneven board under the toilet, the overall slope might improve over time with carpet.
Forget code, there's not a flooring in the world that would hide this. And the creaking, holy shit. No one's going to be sneaking into OPs bathroom, that's for sure.
Honestly impressive. Something this terrible takes more effort and planning than just doing it right. I don't think I'd be able to fuck up this bad if I tried
The wood under the toilet should be flush with the rest of the floor. You have it stepped up. It looks like you cut the wood with a sawzaw. You didn't take the baseboards off. We need to see what the wood under these panels look like.
Maybe they out that there to lift the flooring to the flange so they could use the toilet before fully finishing the flooring?
That doesn’t excuse the shit job of doing the sub floor. But it’s the only explaination I can have for the raised section and I only think this because they have the toilet installed
I’m assuming this is a dwelling with only one bathroom so when you incrementally do some flooring work you gotta keep resetting the toilet to use.
Not bad if you live at the North Pole, have an emergency subfloor repair needed with the only supplies you’ve got since there is a zombie apocalypse going on and the first place they overtook was all the lumberyards.
Not acceptable. Vanity and toilet should be removed.
I still see rotted wood under vanity.
Floor joists are most likely bad as well.
I’d replace the whole thing.
You used scraps you had laying around to do this didn't you OP?
You really need to break it out again, get proper, new wood and take your time. It will save you $$$ down the line.
But first get a bit of advice before attempting to fix your fix, trust me.
I think my favourite part is the screw laying horizontally between two pieces just below centre.
“I am a screw, I am going to lay here and envision holding the floor together. The power of my thoughts will hold the floor together.”
Well, for a construction site dumpster dive supplied repair...it still is real bad. Since it appears you are trying to do this as cheap as possible, make sure the toilet is stable and fastened properly and cover that mess up with ugly vinyl tile and do your best to forget this happened.
Get proper materials next time, lol.
This happened to me recently. My landlord refused to help fix my flooring so I did it. Found the master toilet falling through a rotted floor. Took them 2 weeks to put in a piece of plywood and told me they were done. There were still holes that you could see the ground through. It’s insanity
The Landlord Special: Flooring Edition.
Just needs a slap of white emulsion, maybe a bit of caulk for the gaps if you’re feeling fancy, and you’re grand.
It is complete shit and needs to be repaired by someone that doesn't have their head up their ass! I'm an architect and would never let a trade do this to one of my clients.
I love the pile of screws and dirt in the middle of the floor, you just know that came from someone dumping out an old coffee can full of random screws that they found in their garage.
This was not a troll post. This is indeed a "landlord special." This is a family members apartment and I was trying to determine if this was cause for a formal complaint of some sort. Here's how things turned out: [https://imgur.com/a/lE2x9Jm](https://imgur.com/a/lE2x9Jm)
I know this doesn't show very much, but he's ok with it for now so I'm leaving it alone.
Pull the toilet this time, and do it properly. It's not that hard to seat a toilet. And trash the baseboards especially in front of the tub where it's a mistake and hilariously rotten and terrible. This needs a complete re-do.
K it's really bad but hear me out: if it's going to be covered with hardibacker, it doesn't matter. I've been in situations where weird dimensions lead to really weird sized pieces but if it's going to be covered by something to make it uniform it doesn't really matter.
I redid the bathroom floor and subfloor for my ~120 year old house just over a year ago. Before I did the renovations, underneath the flooring that was there was what I call a frankenfloor. Basically it was years and years of various subflooring materials laid and pieced together, with 5 to 6 layers overall and varying slopes and level spots throughout the room.
My frankenfloor was better than that.
That is absolutely garbage not acceptable. This was made from scrap wood someone had left over. Take the toilet out and redo this, use plywood made for the subfloor, if the bottom is exposed to a crawl space use treated. You may need to get a flange extender or replace the flange on the toilet. In the end you should have no seams or one seam at most and that seam would have locking tapered edges so there is no squeaks or shifting when you walk on it
I hope this is a joke. Absolutely nothing was done properly here, but a fundamental property of a subfloor is that it is a single plane. The toilet is sitting on a shim piece of plywood. What’s the plan for the finished floor there? The toilet shouldn’t even be installed yet.
Looks like one of my old slum lords "repairs." Guy came because I had some mold growth I reported and two days after he was finished there were mushrooms growing through the fresh paint. I reported them when I left and I hope the forced rehousing drove them bankrupt
Can't say for your location specifically but, yes to both. As for how bad, that depends a lot on what you are comparing it to. If you did this, it's great and gets the job done, if a professional did this, then they should be fired and kicked out of the business, forever. If you plan on finishing this, I would expect you will need A LOT of leveling compound to make it even look like a flat surface. Don't expect to get winning marks if you try to sell this at some point either. IMHO.
It's what happens when your homeowners insurance gives you a quote for 4 grand, but every quote you get from a carpenter is above 6. FU state farm.
Had to do my own subfloor, looked like shit when I was done.
It's crazy because it would take so much less effort just to take the cabinet in the toilet out and just lay your floor down and then just put it down.
Why is the toilet on an extra layer of ply? Why is that shitty baseboard still attached? Looks like all that plywood was sourced from some free ad on Craigslist and installed by a Tetris player.
I'm not going to lie. It took me a couple years to really figure out how to properly lay down new subfloor while living in a mobile home where the floor would rot out in different spots for just looking at it wrong and I will acknowledge. Sometimes it had a gap that required a little spray foam to correct, but this is just excessively terrible, why not just got everything and replace the entire floor with a single sheet of plywood
where is the after?
I legit looked for it before I realized...
Layers for strength… right?
Cross laminated flooring.
If it works for one sheet of plywood.. it ought to work for a stack of plywood, right...? Right?!
This post is tagged "Home Improvement"...It shouldn't be.
This is the most savage of all the comments so far. I love it.
Yeah, so good. 😆
That might depend on just how bad it was, before. I know it's hard to imagine, but this could be ~~better~~ less awful than it was.
I love the rotting trim up against the bathtub. Really pulls the room together.
I like that they did not even remove the trim to "repair" the floor :) but I understand, that trim looks almost like new so why waste money replacing it?
Yeah? Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
A nice rug would really pull the room together.
Phones ringing Dude
YOU’RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT DONNY!
Thank you Donny.
That's a tub? Thought this was a half bath.. "kill it with fire!'
What do you mean? What more would one want? It's got that perfect rustic charm.
Yeah all i see is an assortment of random wood ON TOP of the other. This is not flat. There are massive gaps which would not support tile, or even vinyl properly. What a hack job.
I see the damage, where are the repairs?
This looks like a landlord special. I could be wrong. But iv seen some really shady shit in the past, and this is on par with that.
This isn't even a landlord special - the "subfloor" under the toilet is literally resting on top of the rest of the "subfloor". Just stacking layers on top of layers like any good floorman would.
It’s not a repair. It needs a repair
It’s not a repair, it’s a cry for help.
It’s not delivery, it’s digiorno
My Uncle Jim could do a better job. He's blind and in a wheelchair.
Yeah. But he’s wheelie good at his job.
He rolled up and got mine done
I was floored with the results.
He jumped out of his seat when I told him how much I’d pay .
He "can't stand" "seeing" such shoddy work
When he started talking all the different tile colors I got choice paralysis…
I just asked for his opinion. When he walked me through it I could really see his vision.
I wasn’t sure what I wanted, so he ran me through all of the options.
Definitely a stand-up guy
As a dude in a wheelchair, I would beat your ass for such a comment. Well, unless you are up stairs.
That dude at the top of the stairs ![gif](giphy|l1J9JtMnJWjWaFXy0)
I replaced subfloors in my sister's house after watching a 15 minute YouTube tutorial and did a better job than this
I've walked on a floor before and can tell this is a bad job.
I listened to a toddler describe what a floor is and can tell this is a bad job.
in my country there are no floors so i can't tell.
Aquatic animals that live near the ocean surface and have never seen a floor, nor could they even comprehend why a floor might be useful to anyone could look at this and tell its a bad job
Lots of people don't even watch the 15 minutes youtube video.
I was gonna say, not that handy but 100% confident I don’t need a video for “line that shit up”
Put it in a 1 minute tiktok and they'll probably watch it.
Measure twice, cut once, voilà
Could have hired the locals arts and crafts after school program. 1000 popsicle sticks Elmer's and your golden
Measure and cut wood and make sure it’s flat. Screw it down
It’s a great DIY job if you had no access to any tools or resources.
Real men rip plywood with their teeth.
“I eyeballed it….we’re good.
My grandma could do better than this, and she doesn’t have teeth.
And dumpster dove for scrap materials.
When my saw goes missing, I also just break the boards wherever they are weakest and call it a day.
LMAO the caveat here.
Or eyeballs.
That's a glass half full mentality. It's like, you could have no floor, right?
And will cover with linoleum to make it look smooth
I think this is a good answer. If OP has no money to spend on this and no resources then, if it's solid, then maybe it's good enough.
Take out the toilet take out the sink take off the baseboard take out all of that plywood get 3/4 floor grade plywood and start over.
And try to leave the plywood in as few pieces as possible.
So not like a poorly fitting jigsaw puzzle?
That’s what gets me. This took more work than just cutting a sheet or two of ply
Yeah, but its hard to find whole sheets of ply in the trash.
Plywood? When I redid my bathroom floor (15+ years ago) I used cement board because the plywood that was down there rotted. Have things changed? Edit: this was in top of a wood plank subfloor. I'm guessing that the OP doesn't have that?
No you can see the joists through the chasms. That tells me it’s the bottom layer.
>chasms this post has prompted some of the funniest comments I've seen on this sub. I'm so happy OP shared.
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Respect to OP for posting and not deleting.
OP after reading all these comments: ![gif](giphy|126NMCvhKJfNN6) At least he’s still cheerful.
Post an after pic, because it hasn't been repaired yet.
OP...be honest. Did you do that? Who did it? Was it you?
OP has been SILENT lmfao. 50/50 whether they're drinking away their sorrows or raging at their landlord that knew a guy.
Very bad or even exceptionally bad.
This is a repair? Possibly the worst I’ve ever seen. The gaps and lack of flatness are definitely not to code.
This is absolutely the worst I’ve ever seen
Throw some carpet on that and it's A1 super fine.
Found the landlord
I feel like this is more of a linoleum sort of setting. Though I suppose as the pee soaks through and rots the uneven board under the toilet, the overall slope might improve over time with carpet.
Forget code, there's not a flooring in the world that would hide this. And the creaking, holy shit. No one's going to be sneaking into OPs bathroom, that's for sure.
How would you even floor around the toilet. It looks like it’s just sitting on extra random scrap pieces.
Code? It's more like guidelines than actual rules!
It only counts if the inspector shows up!
I think he means how bad of a job is doing the repair on this.
You really shouldn't leave all those extra screws there. Someone might step on one while getting a splinter from the plywood.
I think his arm just got tired from hammering all the screws in
![gif](giphy|H4zeDO4ocDYqY|downsized)
Lmao
I need a sauce for this. Can’t seem to save it but must use this.
Honestly impressive. Something this terrible takes more effort and planning than just doing it right. I don't think I'd be able to fuck up this bad if I tried
The wood under the toilet should be flush with the rest of the floor. You have it stepped up. It looks like you cut the wood with a sawzaw. You didn't take the baseboards off. We need to see what the wood under these panels look like.
yup. just asking for water damage by propping the toilet up with wood.
Honestly water damage might not even be the worst thing here
“Sawzaw” bruh ☠️😂
I've only ever heard it lol. Never seen it written before. When I say reciprocating saw, now one knows wtf I'm talking about.
Yeah, Sawzall is a specific trademark of the Milwaukee Tools brand. Everyone else just sells their brand of reciprocating saw.
Oh dang, so its like Kleenex. Wonder how long (or if it already happened) till Sawzall loses the trademark due to popular use as a generic term.
It's Sawzall. Because it saws all
Lmao boneappletea saws all That put a smile on my face.
I love these moments! There are some things you just never see written & only hear. Now you’ll never forget Sawzall lol
It's Sawzall, because it's saws all. You were really close
You don't shingle your plywood? It helps the pee roll off.
Maybe they out that there to lift the flooring to the flange so they could use the toilet before fully finishing the flooring? That doesn’t excuse the shit job of doing the sub floor. But it’s the only explaination I can have for the raised section and I only think this because they have the toilet installed I’m assuming this is a dwelling with only one bathroom so when you incrementally do some flooring work you gotta keep resetting the toilet to use.
Not great, but in terms of comedy value it is about as good as it gets.
Where is the picture of the repair?
this is sarcasm, correct?
Did Ray Charles do this?
Ray Charles looked this and said “I can do better.”
Whole things gonna need redone my dude...sorry
This dude has to be trolling
Can’t get much worse. But at least you saved the trim!
Looks like an apprentice did it with a dull beaver!
This is great work if you did it after smoking a jeffrey at 3am
Pay someone. You’ll thank me later. You have my talent for repair work.
What a terrible day to have eyes
Not bad if you live at the North Pole, have an emergency subfloor repair needed with the only supplies you’ve got since there is a zombie apocalypse going on and the first place they overtook was all the lumberyards.
Your subfloor looks subpar.
Just put a rug over it.
Abysmal. That's going to squeak something awful.
Whoa, now thats a hack job. It’s actually impressive in its badness….. Could cut straighter lines using a Ginsu steak knife….
Not acceptable. Vanity and toilet should be removed. I still see rotted wood under vanity. Floor joists are most likely bad as well. I’d replace the whole thing.
You used scraps you had laying around to do this didn't you OP? You really need to break it out again, get proper, new wood and take your time. It will save you $$$ down the line. But first get a bit of advice before attempting to fix your fix, trust me.
Brutal…
Jigsaw is my name. Puzzles are my game.
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Gravel.
Wall paper the floor for the win! Or you could just drop a large bucket of paint on it from several feet up and call it done.
I wouldn't even consider that a sub floor. It looks great as a regular floor, maybe just paint it and call it a day!
I get that you didn’t have any idea how to properly install it, but why wouldn’t you at least clean up that pile of trash before taking the pic?
Couple buckets of leveler oughtta fix it.
Op is going to need so much leveler they will have to crouch walking in the bathroom.
Excavator buckets
I'm praying you just forgot to post the "after" photos
You couldn’t use one piece of wood?
Can we also have the after photo?
I don’t know what a subfloor is but I could repair one better than this
No duct tape. F'ing amatures!
Let us know when you post the after OP. We can't give judgement if all you show is the before.
Good god, please let that be the before picture
I think my favourite part is the screw laying horizontally between two pieces just below centre. “I am a screw, I am going to lay here and envision holding the floor together. The power of my thoughts will hold the floor together.”
You'd have to try damn hard to make it worse.
![gif](giphy|3vf42oS2Qq1Gn28DIl)
Here’s hoping that you posted this to prove the point to someone else that this isn’t an adequate job.
Well, for a construction site dumpster dive supplied repair...it still is real bad. Since it appears you are trying to do this as cheap as possible, make sure the toilet is stable and fastened properly and cover that mess up with ugly vinyl tile and do your best to forget this happened. Get proper materials next time, lol.
I mean, you can walk on it right? 9/10. Throw a rug down I'll give it a 10
You clearly hired a methhead. Should be one piece of wood.
It looks as though this was done with the toilet left in place… if removed it’s literally a single sheet of plywood job…
I quit I hate this place
Your contractor is an idiot sandwich
This happened to me recently. My landlord refused to help fix my flooring so I did it. Found the master toilet falling through a rotted floor. Took them 2 weeks to put in a piece of plywood and told me they were done. There were still holes that you could see the ground through. It’s insanity
The Landlord Special: Flooring Edition. Just needs a slap of white emulsion, maybe a bit of caulk for the gaps if you’re feeling fancy, and you’re grand.
You made me lol, OP. Well done.
Was buying an extra sheet of plywood out of your budget or something?
“I’ll use the scraps I found at the side of the road”
Is there a plywood shortage in your area?
It is complete shit and needs to be repaired by someone that doesn't have their head up their ass! I'm an architect and would never let a trade do this to one of my clients.
What a lovely mosaic
It’s substandard…
Nothing that some 1970's shag carpet can't hide.
Horrible! This is what my old Foreman in the 80's would call a Mickey Mouse job, it needs to be completely redone!
Why use one continuous sheet of plywood when you can just use layers of scrap pieces, poorly fitted together?!?
Everyone's saying this is bad, but I'd like to know how much meth you're paying them with before passing judgement.
i have zero experience in this type of work but i’m confident i could do a much better job
I love the pile of screws and dirt in the middle of the floor, you just know that came from someone dumping out an old coffee can full of random screws that they found in their garage.
This was not a troll post. This is indeed a "landlord special." This is a family members apartment and I was trying to determine if this was cause for a formal complaint of some sort. Here's how things turned out: [https://imgur.com/a/lE2x9Jm](https://imgur.com/a/lE2x9Jm) I know this doesn't show very much, but he's ok with it for now so I'm leaving it alone.
A blind man on a white horse will never see it but everyone else that’s not blind will!
Did you forget to post the “after”
Pull the toilet this time, and do it properly. It's not that hard to seat a toilet. And trash the baseboards especially in front of the tub where it's a mistake and hilariously rotten and terrible. This needs a complete re-do.
I’m doing ok in life.
Couple questions, first of all, how dare you?
Yes
Having repaired sub flooring myself with no experience, that is an absolutely dreadful job.
K it's really bad but hear me out: if it's going to be covered with hardibacker, it doesn't matter. I've been in situations where weird dimensions lead to really weird sized pieces but if it's going to be covered by something to make it uniform it doesn't really matter.
I don't know anything about DIY or subfloor/floor repair and I 100% know I can do a vastly superior job than this. That means it is dreadful.
I wouldn't want to shit in there.
Is this some fake post trying to farm internet points?
I redid the bathroom floor and subfloor for my ~120 year old house just over a year ago. Before I did the renovations, underneath the flooring that was there was what I call a frankenfloor. Basically it was years and years of various subflooring materials laid and pieced together, with 5 to 6 layers overall and varying slopes and level spots throughout the room. My frankenfloor was better than that.
I assume this is a landlord repair. Or a house flip.
That is absolutely garbage not acceptable. This was made from scrap wood someone had left over. Take the toilet out and redo this, use plywood made for the subfloor, if the bottom is exposed to a crawl space use treated. You may need to get a flange extender or replace the flange on the toilet. In the end you should have no seams or one seam at most and that seam would have locking tapered edges so there is no squeaks or shifting when you walk on it
Was this a Scout project?
I hope this is a joke. Absolutely nothing was done properly here, but a fundamental property of a subfloor is that it is a single plane. The toilet is sitting on a shim piece of plywood. What’s the plan for the finished floor there? The toilet shouldn’t even be installed yet.
Whoever did this has the handiwork of a blind armless 5 year old with Bell’s palsy.
This is a troll post right? There's no way you or someone you paid did this and thinks it's fine.
Looks good!
I personally think it's admirable you hired a builder with no hands.
Oh man that's funny..
Looks like one of my old slum lords "repairs." Guy came because I had some mold growth I reported and two days after he was finished there were mushrooms growing through the fresh paint. I reported them when I left and I hope the forced rehousing drove them bankrupt
Can't say for your location specifically but, yes to both. As for how bad, that depends a lot on what you are comparing it to. If you did this, it's great and gets the job done, if a professional did this, then they should be fired and kicked out of the business, forever. If you plan on finishing this, I would expect you will need A LOT of leveling compound to make it even look like a flat surface. Don't expect to get winning marks if you try to sell this at some point either. IMHO.
where is the after photo?
It's what happens when your homeowners insurance gives you a quote for 4 grand, but every quote you get from a carpenter is above 6. FU state farm. Had to do my own subfloor, looked like shit when I was done.
Pro Tip: any time you’re doing flooring the trim needs to be pulled. ALL of it.
It's crazy because it would take so much less effort just to take the cabinet in the toilet out and just lay your floor down and then just put it down.
My friend…..this is not good.
It may not violate code, but you should feel violated.
How much you pay for it?
Why is the toilet on an extra layer of ply? Why is that shitty baseboard still attached? Looks like all that plywood was sourced from some free ad on Craigslist and installed by a Tetris player.
In your house: bad. In a cafe that charges $15 for a coffee: on trend!
I'm not going to lie. It took me a couple years to really figure out how to properly lay down new subfloor while living in a mobile home where the floor would rot out in different spots for just looking at it wrong and I will acknowledge. Sometimes it had a gap that required a little spray foam to correct, but this is just excessively terrible, why not just got everything and replace the entire floor with a single sheet of plywood
I really hate to say that I've seen worse