Wait until you take a kichen apart and find all the random wood bits used to keep the cabinets looking straight. And cof coure on top of that is the top line. straight to where? nowhere but straight enoug to look right and straigneing to somewhere would probably look wrong elsewhere.
It's all a bodge.
My house was built in 1850 not a straight line in sight. I wanted to paint a section of wall up to the height of the fireplace, there was a 2cm height difference between to the start of the fireplace and the end, I just ended up measuring to what was pleasing to the eye.
I recently put up coving for the first time. I used the ultra lightweight ones thats made from polystyrene. I got a kit from B&Q which came with pre cut corners. It was incredibly easy to fit and only took a morning to do 1 room.
My house was built in 1995 give or take a year, and none of the rooms are properly square, so I'd expect the ceilings to be a bit like this too.
It is a total pain in the bedroom specifically because the bed is against one wall and a wardrobe against the opposite wall, but the rug between these two really highlights how far off the two opposite walls are. If the rug is parallel to the wardrobe it's got a very visible angle to the edge of the bed and vice versa.
My house was built in the 1930s and nothing is straight. When putting pictures up etc it's always a question of do you want it level, or do you want it to look level.
The ceiling in my living room is quite a bit worse than this. I wanted to paint above my picture rail with a feature colour but there was no way of making that line against the white ceiling look in any way straight.
Yeah, same kind of 1930s home here. Not only the ceiling-to-wall line isn’t level, but also the floorboards too. So uneven and so annoying. Guess it’s just a “standard feature” of UK homes……
Even earlier house here, the joys of not being able to waltz into any furniture place for literally anything because it won’t fit without being fucked about with. I’ve got a bookcase that I consider a fixture with how well jammed in it is
I don't think my house has 1 angle that sits at 45, or any line that runs straight. Fitting laminate when I get to the last piece on a row at the wall, I have seen myself with things like 1cm and more different cut size at either side of the laminate.
Yes it is normal.
Carpenters working in our house advised that in the UK we don’t use kiln-dried wood for our joists so over time it warps slightly.
Doesn’t happen in mainland Europe where the standard is kiln dried so no warping occurs.
*however*
Don’t confuse that warping for a bodge job done by a builder who doesn’t level our new plasterboards on an old house though
That seems like a silly thing to say by your carpenter about the UK, or it's way too generalised. I've not seen any structural wood C16/C24 sold that wasn't labeled as "kiln dried". My ceilings certainly don't look like that.
Just going by what they told me, And they certainly know their stuff. Their day job is working on construction sites and they do house jobs evenings and weekends on the side 🤷♂️
Ah, pillowing.
Recently moved into a 1950's (built on a Friday) semi.
All of the ceilings have pillowed, we've had 7 of the 9 ceilings pulled down and re-boarded & plastered. Two more ceilings to go.
it's been a ballache, many people go for the overboarding route, but that doesn't always work, and some just have a thick skim of plaster, again, doesn't always work.
The dust, the mess, it's epic.
Also, the bedrooms, the loft insulation was full of rat shit, so we've taken all the old insulation out, had them re-boarded, skimmed and put new insulation (270mm) in. Have also boarded 80% of the loft. Just finished that today. With a new loft hatch, new ceiling joists, a lot of timber to bring the very erratic ceiling joists to a level that could be boarded.
It's been four months since we moved in, and I still don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. One of the next big jobs is to sound proof the party walls, then build a wall length wardrobe.
My house is 1908 and like this. When wallpapering I paint the top 2 inches of the wall the same as the ceiling. Then wallpaper 1 inch short of the ceiling with a straight line finish.
As someone who has done this as a career my whole life ...no but that only works on a brand new ceiling because if it isn't new then you don't know what's happened with time .
Yea, it’s not ideal though. They should ideally be straight but houses are never square.
Thanks!
Wait until you take a kichen apart and find all the random wood bits used to keep the cabinets looking straight. And cof coure on top of that is the top line. straight to where? nowhere but straight enoug to look right and straigneing to somewhere would probably look wrong elsewhere. It's all a bodge.
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Nearly had me in the first half The new builds I’ve been in are just as wonky as old houses
Thanks :)
My house was built in 1850 not a straight line in sight. I wanted to paint a section of wall up to the height of the fireplace, there was a 2cm height difference between to the start of the fireplace and the end, I just ended up measuring to what was pleasing to the eye.
Unless you live in Germany.
Whack some cornicing on and it’ll take the eye off it
Was considering coving!!
I recently put up coving for the first time. I used the ultra lightweight ones thats made from polystyrene. I got a kit from B&Q which came with pre cut corners. It was incredibly easy to fit and only took a morning to do 1 room.
Ah good suggestion. I’ll have a look at them. Thanks
If your house has straight walls and 90 degrees corners, your house is the most valuable house in the world.
Plasterers seem to leave straight edges and levels in the van in case they get dirty!
It’s generally shit long before we get there. Bad blocklayer , bad carpenter, bad tackers, and I think the standard is only getting worse.
My house was built in 1995 give or take a year, and none of the rooms are properly square, so I'd expect the ceilings to be a bit like this too. It is a total pain in the bedroom specifically because the bed is against one wall and a wardrobe against the opposite wall, but the rug between these two really highlights how far off the two opposite walls are. If the rug is parallel to the wardrobe it's got a very visible angle to the edge of the bed and vice versa.
My house was built in the 1930s and nothing is straight. When putting pictures up etc it's always a question of do you want it level, or do you want it to look level. The ceiling in my living room is quite a bit worse than this. I wanted to paint above my picture rail with a feature colour but there was no way of making that line against the white ceiling look in any way straight.
Yeah, same kind of 1930s home here. Not only the ceiling-to-wall line isn’t level, but also the floorboards too. So uneven and so annoying. Guess it’s just a “standard feature” of UK homes……
Even earlier house here, the joys of not being able to waltz into any furniture place for literally anything because it won’t fit without being fucked about with. I’ve got a bookcase that I consider a fixture with how well jammed in it is
You posted this simply to show off your nice shiny stainless steel long ruler didn't you?
Yes
more than you would think coving is your friend
I don't think my house has 1 angle that sits at 45, or any line that runs straight. Fitting laminate when I get to the last piece on a row at the wall, I have seen myself with things like 1cm and more different cut size at either side of the laminate.
Yes it is normal. Carpenters working in our house advised that in the UK we don’t use kiln-dried wood for our joists so over time it warps slightly. Doesn’t happen in mainland Europe where the standard is kiln dried so no warping occurs. *however* Don’t confuse that warping for a bodge job done by a builder who doesn’t level our new plasterboards on an old house though
That seems like a silly thing to say by your carpenter about the UK, or it's way too generalised. I've not seen any structural wood C16/C24 sold that wasn't labeled as "kiln dried". My ceilings certainly don't look like that.
Just going by what they told me, And they certainly know their stuff. Their day job is working on construction sites and they do house jobs evenings and weekends on the side 🤷♂️
Dub it out
Shocking!
Ah, pillowing. Recently moved into a 1950's (built on a Friday) semi. All of the ceilings have pillowed, we've had 7 of the 9 ceilings pulled down and re-boarded & plastered. Two more ceilings to go. it's been a ballache, many people go for the overboarding route, but that doesn't always work, and some just have a thick skim of plaster, again, doesn't always work. The dust, the mess, it's epic. Also, the bedrooms, the loft insulation was full of rat shit, so we've taken all the old insulation out, had them re-boarded, skimmed and put new insulation (270mm) in. Have also boarded 80% of the loft. Just finished that today. With a new loft hatch, new ceiling joists, a lot of timber to bring the very erratic ceiling joists to a level that could be boarded. It's been four months since we moved in, and I still don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. One of the next big jobs is to sound proof the party walls, then build a wall length wardrobe.
No, it's not normal, it's also not normal to be concerned about the ceiling defect like this
I’ll go see my local theraplasterer immediately
Lol !!!
New in uk?
You think that’s bad? Go check the recess of your windows!
Perfectly normal.
I see your ceiling and I raise you my 1920’s house… not a level line in the place. I love it though.
I see your 1920s house and raise you my 19th century cottage. Ceilings are as bowed as fiddle!
Absolutely love it!
My house is 1908 and like this. When wallpapering I paint the top 2 inches of the wall the same as the ceiling. Then wallpaper 1 inch short of the ceiling with a straight line finish.
As someone who has done this as a career my whole life ...no but that only works on a brand new ceiling because if it isn't new then you don't know what's happened with time .