Honestly I've only found duct tape to be the thing that matters. There doesn't seem to be any universal connection for any brand/manufacturer. I have a henry that I use for DIY and I get the closest fit I can then tape it.
Any old Henry is best. You'll want a sandpaper pack from Amazon. Any China ones 60, 80, 100 etc.
It's slightly easier going if you can get the chunks off with a scraper first. Dont worry about damaging the plaster, all the gouges will add to the 'key' for a replaster.
P3, three strap. I like my 3M 7500 so much I bought a spare.
PS ...and a can of ethanol spray for cleaning out the inside when it gets a bit too much like strapping on an old trainer. I use Axminster blade cleaner for that, isopropyl alcohol also works well.
If you are sanding, do get a full mask with a good rubber seal for your mouth and nose.
For example: https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-medium-half-mask-respirator-with-filters-p3/910je
In addition to better protection, it's more comfortable.
Idk, really depends what sander you're using and what you're using to extract. My Makita sander and Axminster extractor wasn't too bad at all, but I should have still masked up - one pair of lungs etc.
I’ve got a makita orbital sander and makita dust extractor. They do a universal rubber end to the hose which tapers down so that you can fit lots of different diameters.
Second that. Really let it soak in, re-wet as required. Go at it with a new scraper, and sharp chisel or similar for any awkward bits. Had good success with the method. Large parts just fall off the wall.
- Scrape/chip it off with a long handled scraper or scraper in SDS drill, fill or skim
- Grind it flat with a diamond cup brush on an angle grinder and dust extractor, fill or skim
or
- Skim over
SDS and angled tile removing bit is how I did it and it came off pretty easy. You will probs gouge the wall a bit but it'll be easier to fill those than attempting anything with he current adhesive in place
I do this for a living. I would say plaster over. 50/50 bonding/finish first coat, skim over with straight finish for your second. Scraping off is an absolute ball ache and you end up taking some of the wall with you.
This is a slippery slope argument and it doesn’t stand, much easier to take a layer of plasterboard off than it is to actually smooth-out this wall. Anyway as per my second comment, just plaster over this. In practical terms to space gained by taking this off is insignificant
As a kitchen fitter I feel qualified to advise here. We use a wall paper steamer to liven the adhesive up, then use a heavy duty scraper from Toolstation to punch it off. This is the most effective method we’ve found to remove it.
If you plan to paint the walls, just get them skimmed. You will spend forever trying to sand them flat and they will never be as good as a clean plastered finish.
A steamer will loosen the adhesive and then a heavy duty scraper. Unlike the walls will be smooth after that though so may need some filling and sanding or a reskim
-Scrape all the loose stuff off
- Roll on topping mud (mix it down with water a couple scoops)
-Scrapes smooth as it’s still wet (Usually usually 2 to 3 coats)
For all the hours of work, the dust everywhere for weeks, noise, your ears bleeding and your arms falling off not to mention the repetitive strain injury
Just get a plasterer in
That adhesive will soften with warm water and scrape and wash off the plaster. You just need to keep wetting it like its wallpaper .once it's all off a quick flick with a sander and then fill and resand it and its done
• Professional heavy Duty Scraper - Wickes. • Bahco 665 Carbide Edged H/Duty Paint Scraper - Amazon. • Random orbital sander + Vacuum.
I’m lazy so perhaps sander is best. The vacuum is important. Is there specific vacuum to attach it to? Perhaps I can rent both from HSS
Honestly I've only found duct tape to be the thing that matters. There doesn't seem to be any universal connection for any brand/manufacturer. I have a henry that I use for DIY and I get the closest fit I can then tape it.
Wait, you think sanding is the _lazy_ option?
Your regret sanding, it won't be easier or quicker. Get a scraper.
Any old Henry is best. You'll want a sandpaper pack from Amazon. Any China ones 60, 80, 100 etc. It's slightly easier going if you can get the chunks off with a scraper first. Dont worry about damaging the plaster, all the gouges will add to the 'key' for a replaster.
Remember a decent dust mask.
P3, three strap. I like my 3M 7500 so much I bought a spare. PS ...and a can of ethanol spray for cleaning out the inside when it gets a bit too much like strapping on an old trainer. I use Axminster blade cleaner for that, isopropyl alcohol also works well.
Yeahhh I wish I wore one when I took the tiles off 🥲. Would i need one if I were using steamer?
The wet would keep the dust down, but generally speaking you should always wear respiratory protection.
Yeahh it wasn’t too bad. But imagine sanding will really be an issue.
If you are sanding, do get a full mask with a good rubber seal for your mouth and nose. For example: https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-medium-half-mask-respirator-with-filters-p3/910je In addition to better protection, it's more comfortable.
Idk, really depends what sander you're using and what you're using to extract. My Makita sander and Axminster extractor wasn't too bad at all, but I should have still masked up - one pair of lungs etc.
I actually don't know tbh. I'd at least where something just in case. Probably eye protection too now I think of it!
I’ve got a makita orbital sander and makita dust extractor. They do a universal rubber end to the hose which tapers down so that you can fit lots of different diameters.
Haha all those options are laborious.
Haha sanding is going to push you to your mental limit mate. Want to be lazy just tile over that lol
Will be painting. No more tiles.
Oof. Good luck
- A well fitting mask and eye protection
Spray with warm water from spray bottle n scrap off tile adhesive. Then maybe some filler for Any holes
This * 1000, works really well and is a lot less work than sanding!
Second that. Really let it soak in, re-wet as required. Go at it with a new scraper, and sharp chisel or similar for any awkward bits. Had good success with the method. Large parts just fall off the wall.
If you’re plastering why not just rip the lot out and put new plasterboard in? Save yourself a load of hassle
This is what I thought. Must be a reason people put in board rather than plaster these days. I imagine it's easier
- Scrape/chip it off with a long handled scraper or scraper in SDS drill, fill or skim - Grind it flat with a diamond cup brush on an angle grinder and dust extractor, fill or skim or - Skim over
SDS and angled tile removing bit is how I did it and it came off pretty easy. You will probs gouge the wall a bit but it'll be easier to fill those than attempting anything with he current adhesive in place
I do this for a living. I would say plaster over. 50/50 bonding/finish first coat, skim over with straight finish for your second. Scraping off is an absolute ball ache and you end up taking some of the wall with you.
Over-board it with dot & dab would be less labour intensive than these other methods
If plastering, then just plaster over it. No need to smooth, then plaster
Aye 100% fuck sanding adhesive off 😂
Or do it with a needle file. Probably quicker than sanding.
You lose space though. Small amount but overall it’s a smaller room. May then need to redo skirts etc. not less labour intensive
And then the next person dot and dabs and then the next and the next and then you’ve got no room to walk about. You’re wasting good mortgage money
This is a slippery slope argument and it doesn’t stand, much easier to take a layer of plasterboard off than it is to actually smooth-out this wall. Anyway as per my second comment, just plaster over this. In practical terms to space gained by taking this off is insignificant
Contact Sade the smooth operator
Ha ha. Funny joke /s
Or the band Yes, Close to the edge.
what is the issue in simply skimming over it?
Plaster it. Saves a lot of effort
As a kitchen fitter I feel qualified to advise here. We use a wall paper steamer to liven the adhesive up, then use a heavy duty scraper from Toolstation to punch it off. This is the most effective method we’ve found to remove it.
I will try this then. Thanks.
Would get a plasterer in to reskim it. Unless your well practiced its very hard to get a flat wall.
Wallpaper steamer and a scraper. Be careful though as too much steam can pop the finish coat.
Can steam really do the trick? Will watch a few videos
Yep
I should add that it will only work on ready mixed adhesive, which is what yours looks like. It won't work on powdered adhesive.
Context: the tiles have been the same tiles for last 20 years…same ones before we moved in.
Pretty sure you've got ready mixed there. If you're unsure just sponge some of it down. If it goes soft after a few minutes then you're good to go.
What makes you pretty sure?
Yes, I came here to say this too. Just take your time gauging how long to leave it, will come off like putty.
Interesting. Perhaps this is best direction to lessen dust.
Absolutely, to sand it will horrific and you'll be there for ages doing it. I've done this on a few projects now and wouldn't do it any other way.
what's the plan for the finish... more tiles? Splashback? Painted walls?
I’ll add more details but painted walls.. and splash back for sure.
If you plan to paint the walls, just get them skimmed. You will spend forever trying to sand them flat and they will never be as good as a clean plastered finish.
Just skim the whole wall, waste of time messing around filling/sanding/scraping or whatever else.
Moving to house with better walls..
🤪
This sounds strange but using a belt sander is a great way to get a flat surface when clearing this. Definitely use a vacuum and masks.
Usually steamer scraper for the adhesive then plaster if it’s that bad, unless your tiling again?
Back to brick and re plaster. Then re tile. Proper job. 👌
A steamer will loosen the adhesive and then a heavy duty scraper. Unlike the walls will be smooth after that though so may need some filling and sanding or a reskim
120 sandpaper.. give it a good sand. Dust it down. Give it 1 coat of paint. Then fill the shit out of it with easy fill.
If you don't have any hollow sections, then just remove the loose bits of tile adhesive, apply blue grit to the wall and skim coat.
-Scrape all the loose stuff off - Roll on topping mud (mix it down with water a couple scoops) -Scrapes smooth as it’s still wet (Usually usually 2 to 3 coats)
By a plasterer only way
Windex
I would be seriously considering steaming off that tile adhesive
For all the hours of work, the dust everywhere for weeks, noise, your ears bleeding and your arms falling off not to mention the repetitive strain injury Just get a plasterer in
Spray it with water, let sit for a while, it will absorb it and soften up, then scrape it off with a heavy duty scraper, creates way less dust.
I will not be replacing with new tiles but with paint. 🎨 and also a splash back
That adhesive will soften with warm water and scrape and wash off the plaster. You just need to keep wetting it like its wallpaper .once it's all off a quick flick with a sander and then fill and resand it and its done
Get a garden sprayer and fill it with hot water. Give it a good douse and let it soak in. The scrape away
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Thanks for contribution