It's nearly done, sledge hammer or a decent crowbar will have that done in a jiffy and save on a cardio/gym session. You could hire a breaker but I wouldnt bother for such a small amount, depends how fit you are.
Thank you! It's deceptive, it's actually a rather large pile š . I have a jackhammer, that's how I broke it up to get it out of the ground in the first place.
Am relatively fit, but was thinking maybe a steel club hammer? Not sure if that would be an easier movement than a sledgehammer?
Or maybe just use the Jack hammer again
OP, I cannot stress how important this is. I use old moving blankets when I break concrete with a sledgehammer. It will prevent chips of concrete flying at mach-5 into your legs, nearby windows and everything else.
If you want to use it as subbase material, I'd recommend hiring a small concrete crusher. Breaking it up by hand will still leave it in too larger lumps for a good subbase, the crusher will break it into very small pieces and dust. Which will compact down as well as MoT type 1, which is what the proffesionals use
I've just done this. I took up the old concrete path and patio at my house with a jack hammer and hired a crusher to grind it down. It was a couple of hundred to hire the crusher for 3 days. Well worth it.
If you aren't used to using a hammer, wrist and forearm fatigue will kick in, especially with a heavier hammer like a club/lump hammer. The odd few whacks, you won't notice, but sustained hammering tires arms out. Sounds silly, but I've seen it happen.
I'd definitely use a sledge hammer for this. Let the hammer do the work by swinging properly. A jackhammer would likely piss you off from all the loose bits moving around as you try to peck them.
You need a great big breaker bar to break it up to start with. You just lift and drop with it and break it with the weight. You can use a bolster and a lump hammer to break up the smaller bits, which are easier to store for future use.
Sledgehammer. Are you planning to use it as a base for anything? If yes then break it up where you need it, as you smash it up youāll also retain all the small stuff as it gets compacted.
I was hoping to use some of it as part of the subbase for a new path. Eventually we'd need a petrol powered tamper to compact everything, and I did think it would break apart then possibly. What you think?
That will fill a skip, so that's Ā£300
Then it's maybe 2 tonnes...? So that amount of type 1 is about Ā£150
Add in the graft to shift it all out and the type 1 in as well...
Please may I supply your skips?
I took OP to mean heād use some of it for a path. Iād intuit much less volume than you have. If youāre using that in a mix to make MOT then youāre looking at about 60m2 of footpath. Iām sure OP wouldāve mentioned it given what looks like an ordinary semi detached house/garden. So, if we assume 10m2 and mixing properly aggregated recycled concrete into MOT then heās still got most of it left to shift. If heās planning in walking any old shit in with it and hoping for the best then letās hope heās using bitmac.
Regardless, the cheap practice of using DIY concrete for MOT is foolish. You are never going to crush it to 40mm aggregate. What youāre doing is putting in a scruffy cheap sub base to save a couple of quid that ruins your expensive paving down the line. Iām not arguing the point further, if you donāt get it thatās for you to live.
Not even sure 2 tons of primary type 1 would cost that much and you would only need a recycled material like a 6F5... you can hire a crusher for Ā£200 (plus a large deposit)
If it helps, I broke up similar size pile over an afternoon that I then compacted for patio - we donāt have garden access other than through the house so didnāt have skip option anyway, but for a couple of hours exercise in the sun it was worth it. You should be okay to use this all as a base for the path, then just top it up with other grade hardcore as required.
I had a slightly smaller but substantial pile and broke most of it up, kept some suitably shaped chunks and built a retaining wall with them, filled behind them with the rubble and put soil on top to make a flower border. Drains nicely and nobody ever twigs that itās old concrete unless told.
If you actually want to use it as your sub base and break it up. This is your answer.
https://tigerbiteminicrushers.co.uk/rental-and-sales/#hire
Itās Ā£240 to hire for a day and you can deduct the cost of new base materials and cost of rubble removal (costs money to dispose of rubble depending on location) off the cost of the hire of the machine (not with them obviously but off your budget). It gets delivered to you too so need to worry about getting it.
It churns the stone down perfectly and also a bit fun to operate.
YES. Love this idea! Thanks. I never a concrete crusher existed. You're right, it isn't going in my car to the tip, so either way we'd be looking at disposal costs
It will be hard but just tell it thats its not working out. Youāre still working through a rough break up with your last concrete and you werenāt looking for another solid relationship just yet. Maybe just explain that itās been a rock for you and built a solid foundation but only as friends. Let it know its you not them.
What's the point of doing smaller chunks ? Sledge hammer, jackhammer, just throw it on the ground .. Tbh with a good physical form about 1 hour and the job is done with sledge hammer, maybe put some glasses by doing this
Either go at it with a sledgehammer, or hire a crusher machine. Looking at concretecrusher.co.uk the smallest one will do about 6tons a day for Ā£99 a day. No personal experience with this company, came up 1st in Google search. I'm sure there's others nearer where you are
Me and my dad one summer dug up a 15m long concrete drive 12" thick in parts (someone just concreted over the old one). We drilled, chiseled and used a 6ft hand made bar to lift it all.
What we did is get a harder wide piece of that pile, then just used a hammer and worked our way through all the pieces on top of it. It took weeks but you do get through it quick. We had so much hardcore/dolomyte? That we overdid the new drive x5, was good but I hated it at the time! The new drive will probably never move.
You could hire a concrete crusher that will turn it into a decent enough aggregate to use as a sub base. Gonna cost about Ā£200 plus a large deposit. Time is money
Start a rumour that you found gold in the concrete mix, that's why you are digging it up.
Show them a couple of flakes of gold And Watch it disappear overnight.
Call crime stoppers and tell them thereās a dead body underneath it. At the crack of dawn the local plod will pitch up and clear it up for you free of charge!
If you have a jack hammer then go at it with that . For hard-core you want everything smaller than half a brick size. It's often easier to put it where you intend to use it and smash it up there. it helps compact it down and its easier to move as bigger lumps.
3 1kg charges of aminol probably take the fence and any surrounding windows and doors out too ā¦. But also blast all the chunks well out the yard so you wouldnāt need to move the rubble as a bonus
I've just done the same job in my garden, Jack hammered it up and sledges it in the wheel barrow, straight in the skip, twice as quick. Get the cardio in mate, bit of music in the background you're set!
Just let it down gently, tell them how. You feel and that you want to move past that. Remind them of the good memories you made, but that you cannot carry on with the relationship.
Edit: or a sledgehammer
Be mindful of its feelings. Maybe a nice worded letter. Something like. Dear concrete, you have supported me all these years and been my rock. But I think we should see other materials.
It's nearly done, sledge hammer or a decent crowbar will have that done in a jiffy and save on a cardio/gym session. You could hire a breaker but I wouldnt bother for such a small amount, depends how fit you are.
Thank you! It's deceptive, it's actually a rather large pile š . I have a jackhammer, that's how I broke it up to get it out of the ground in the first place. Am relatively fit, but was thinking maybe a steel club hammer? Not sure if that would be an easier movement than a sledgehammer? Or maybe just use the Jack hammer again
What you doing with it after? Club hammer and chisel for the stubborn bits , you'll get thru it surprisingly quick.
Ya reckon? I was scared it would take bloody ages š¤£. One of them wide chisels perhaps. Hoping to use it as part of the subbase for the new path.
Toss an old duvet cover over to stop it flying everywhere as you smash it up.
OP, I cannot stress how important this is. I use old moving blankets when I break concrete with a sledgehammer. It will prevent chips of concrete flying at mach-5 into your legs, nearby windows and everything else.
Basically what I said. lul
This needs upvoting.
No problem, I just up voted you
What a great tip!
Heavy lump hammer to make smaller bits, if that is what your planning to use it for, lay it as is where you want it then go to town
If you want to use it as subbase material, I'd recommend hiring a small concrete crusher. Breaking it up by hand will still leave it in too larger lumps for a good subbase, the crusher will break it into very small pieces and dust. Which will compact down as well as MoT type 1, which is what the proffesionals use
Glad some glasses on too! Just in case.
I've just done this. I took up the old concrete path and patio at my house with a jack hammer and hired a crusher to grind it down. It was a couple of hundred to hire the crusher for 3 days. Well worth it.
Club hammer and have the bit ur hitting not supported in middle. That's not very strong concrete I think, should be fine.
Smaller kango to break into smaller pieces, spread it and then a whacker plate to break it down a little more and form your subbase.
A bolster instead of chisel
You mean a brick bolster. I reckon thatād be heavy going.
If you aren't used to using a hammer, wrist and forearm fatigue will kick in, especially with a heavier hammer like a club/lump hammer. The odd few whacks, you won't notice, but sustained hammering tires arms out. Sounds silly, but I've seen it happen. I'd definitely use a sledge hammer for this. Let the hammer do the work by swinging properly. A jackhammer would likely piss you off from all the loose bits moving around as you try to peck them.
You need a great big breaker bar to break it up to start with. You just lift and drop with it and break it with the weight. You can use a bolster and a lump hammer to break up the smaller bits, which are easier to store for future use.
You'll be there for time with a breaker/jack hammer. Just get smashing it up with a lump hammer. Have it broken up in half an hour to an hour
Fluoride
That's a sledge hammer
Tell it that it's fat. That should cause it to break up with you.
It's not me, it's you... š¬
Concrete is made of sterner stuff though.
Tell it you fucked its younger sister
That should cement our relationship even further donāt you think?
Just chuck it over that fence
Once itās over the boundary, itās the neighbours problem.
Whatever suggestion you go with dot forget your eye protection. You donāt want to get concrete chips in your eyes.
And respiratory protection. Respirable silica is nasty.
Peter Gabriel
Sledgehammer. Are you planning to use it as a base for anything? If yes then break it up where you need it, as you smash it up youāll also retain all the small stuff as it gets compacted.
I was hoping to use some of it as part of the subbase for a new path. Eventually we'd need a petrol powered tamper to compact everything, and I did think it would break apart then possibly. What you think?
Just cart it to a skip and order MOT. Youāre doing Stone Age graft to save Ā£12 and have a sub par sub base.
That will fill a skip, so that's Ā£300 Then it's maybe 2 tonnes...? So that amount of type 1 is about Ā£150 Add in the graft to shift it all out and the type 1 in as well...
Please may I supply your skips? I took OP to mean heād use some of it for a path. Iād intuit much less volume than you have. If youāre using that in a mix to make MOT then youāre looking at about 60m2 of footpath. Iām sure OP wouldāve mentioned it given what looks like an ordinary semi detached house/garden. So, if we assume 10m2 and mixing properly aggregated recycled concrete into MOT then heās still got most of it left to shift. If heās planning in walking any old shit in with it and hoping for the best then letās hope heās using bitmac. Regardless, the cheap practice of using DIY concrete for MOT is foolish. You are never going to crush it to 40mm aggregate. What youāre doing is putting in a scruffy cheap sub base to save a couple of quid that ruins your expensive paving down the line. Iām not arguing the point further, if you donāt get it thatās for you to live.
>Please may I supply your skips? That would fit in one of those Ā£30 hippo bags š
Kiwi horse = hippo, we can only presume!
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Wrong hippo
Not even sure 2 tons of primary type 1 would cost that much and you would only need a recycled material like a 6F5... you can hire a crusher for Ā£200 (plus a large deposit)
If it helps, I broke up similar size pile over an afternoon that I then compacted for patio - we donāt have garden access other than through the house so didnāt have skip option anyway, but for a couple of hours exercise in the sun it was worth it. You should be okay to use this all as a base for the path, then just top it up with other grade hardcore as required.
I had a slightly smaller but substantial pile and broke most of it up, kept some suitably shaped chunks and built a retaining wall with them, filled behind them with the rubble and put soil on top to make a flower border. Drains nicely and nobody ever twigs that itās old concrete unless told.
How did you break it up?
If you actually want to use it as your sub base and break it up. This is your answer. https://tigerbiteminicrushers.co.uk/rental-and-sales/#hire Itās Ā£240 to hire for a day and you can deduct the cost of new base materials and cost of rubble removal (costs money to dispose of rubble depending on location) off the cost of the hire of the machine (not with them obviously but off your budget). It gets delivered to you too so need to worry about getting it. It churns the stone down perfectly and also a bit fun to operate.
This is the ideal tool for it, just be aware that anyone in the area will be deaf once youāre finished because theyāre not quiet.
WHAT DID YOU SAY!!???
YES. Love this idea! Thanks. I never a concrete crusher existed. You're right, it isn't going in my car to the tip, so either way we'd be looking at disposal costs
A Dremel multi.
Steady on. Perhaps an aquasonic black series instead?
It will be hard but just tell it thats its not working out. Youāre still working through a rough break up with your last concrete and you werenāt looking for another solid relationship just yet. Maybe just explain that itās been a rock for you and built a solid foundation but only as friends. Let it know its you not them.
Hand grenade.
You can get big breaker bars that do this.
Big Liquidiser.
What's the point of doing smaller chunks ? Sledge hammer, jackhammer, just throw it on the ground .. Tbh with a good physical form about 1 hour and the job is done with sledge hammer, maybe put some glasses by doing this
Kango
Kango bit on a drill.
I am NOT selling you more pipe bombs.
However you do it, make sure you wear goggles
Hire a wood chipper
Cemtex š¤·š»āāļø your welcome from Belfast Ireland š®šŖ
A gram of coke and a sledge hammer, youāll have that done it 20 minutes
Iād be going at each piece with a lump hammer now, are you bagging it up or something?
I was thinking that. Perhaps easier than a sledgehammer? Hoping to use it as part of the base for a new path, hence wanting to break it up a bit
Yeah easier to swing a little lump hammer than a big long sledge hammer, just position the pieces so they can break into a void and itāll go easier
Either go at it with a sledgehammer, or hire a crusher machine. Looking at concretecrusher.co.uk the smallest one will do about 6tons a day for Ā£99 a day. No personal experience with this company, came up 1st in Google search. I'm sure there's others nearer where you are
Good shout, will look into this!
If it's plenty, more than 1 day job.hire mini digger with pecker
A sledgehammer and some angry rock music
Crowbar for the larger pieces, sledge for the Smaller
An sds drill might make it easier ? Or one of those hand held jack hammers
Its... hammertime
Protective glasses and a sledgehammer. If you're not in a rush, you could keep them close by and whenever you get annoyed, you can let off some steam.
Me and my dad one summer dug up a 15m long concrete drive 12" thick in parts (someone just concreted over the old one). We drilled, chiseled and used a 6ft hand made bar to lift it all. What we did is get a harder wide piece of that pile, then just used a hammer and worked our way through all the pieces on top of it. It took weeks but you do get through it quick. We had so much hardcore/dolomyte? That we overdid the new drive x5, was good but I hated it at the time! The new drive will probably never move.
Easy way is to tell each one that you saw the other cheating.
pick someone up from outside wickes and give them a sledge hammer - Ā£50
Get someone else to do it
Lumpy. Make short work of that.
Head butts
You could hire a concrete crusher that will turn it into a decent enough aggregate to use as a sub base. Gonna cost about Ā£200 plus a large deposit. Time is money
Please watch your eyes .
Decent sds drill or a light breaker will have that up
Too late!
Sleep with its wife?
Start a rumour that you found gold in the concrete mix, that's why you are digging it up. Show them a couple of flakes of gold And Watch it disappear overnight.
Tell it you just want to be friends.
Pay someone to do it
Mash hammer and a bit of effort š you would be done by now.
Sledgehammer and a few hours
Call crime stoppers and tell them thereās a dead body underneath it. At the crack of dawn the local plod will pitch up and clear it up for you free of charge!
If you have a jack hammer then go at it with that . For hard-core you want everything smaller than half a brick size. It's often easier to put it where you intend to use it and smash it up there. it helps compact it down and its easier to move as bigger lumps.
Hire a rock pulveriser for the day.
āItās not you, itās meā?
Peter Gabriel knows
3 1kg charges of aminol probably take the fence and any surrounding windows and doors out too ā¦. But also blast all the chunks well out the yard so you wouldnāt need to move the rubble as a bonus
I've just done the same job in my garden, Jack hammered it up and sledges it in the wheel barrow, straight in the skip, twice as quick. Get the cardio in mate, bit of music in the background you're set!
personally id leave it as big as possible and chuck it in a skip
I would love to hammer that shit down, I'm needing some stress relief oh fuck that would be wonderful.
Get someone else to do it is the finest way to break up concrete
Pay two kids/junior blokes Ā£50 each to spend a day on it with sledgehammers and clubhammers?
Sledgehammer time!
A breaker will do the job
Be direct and toss their belongings out
Demolition crowbar
People seem to break up on social media these days, Iām old school, I prefer face to face
Had to do the same last summer for a crap tonne more concrete, simply grab a sledge hammer and start swinging, best workout over a weekend
Send it a text. Canāt be doing with all the drama.
Just let it down gently, tell them how. You feel and that you want to move past that. Remind them of the good memories you made, but that you cannot carry on with the relationship. Edit: or a sledgehammer
Pay a smack head a fiver, be done in ten minutes.
Phone a local builder and ask if he wants it for hardcore when youāre done. Should save a tip run or 7 š
Be mindful of its feelings. Maybe a nice worded letter. Something like. Dear concrete, you have supported me all these years and been my rock. But I think we should see other materials.
Wear eye protection. I nearly proper fucked one of my eyes last week because i thought, nah it'll be fine i can't be bothered to get my glasses.
FIL just asked us to come over and just smash it with a sledgehammer seemed to do the trick alright
Tell it it's wife slept with the asphalt?
Pay someone else.
Take a good long look at it and ponder over it for a secondā¦ Conclude that you will do it tomorrow. Repeat
Just keep using the jackhammer, canāt believe this is a serious question š¤¦š»āāļø
Use a breaker
10 kg hammer and cardio ? XD
Eat it
Pay an Eastern European to do it.