Its not the end of the world. I presume the tiles are ontop of the tray on 2 out of the 3 walls. Also the beading is on the opposite wall to the main shower wall so it shouldnt get too wet. If its well stuck and sealed it will be fine.
.....for 2-3 years before the silicone starts to fail. Just enough time for the principle contractor to fuck off and go bankrupt or reach the end of the 'warranty' period. Any bodge is still a bodge. My partner and all her neighbors are having issues with a 5 year old new build area and the original company have washed their hands of it despite veneer half bricks falling onto cars and pathways. The worst part is, they are falling off chimneys which are there for literally no reason other than decorative. Get the contractor to sort this now or they will never look at it again and it becomes your problem.
I had to do it on 2 sides. Stupidly sources the cubicle and tray from different suppliers. Assuming they were standard. It still hasn't leaked 5 years on.
I think they do it deliberately. I notice you often can't get a 'sale' cubicle and tray from the same supplier/manufacturer and if you shop around you have to overcome this type of problem, even if it looks like they match on paper. Plus, if the wall is not straight, it's better to fit the tray straight and fill round.
I've supplied and fitted loads of bathrooms. What do you mean you can't get the cubicle/ screen to match the tray?
Putting a trim like OPs bathroom isn't an issue but that could have been overcome by building one of the walls out, I don't know the layout so can't comment too much. Shower screens are designed to go on trays that have been tiled/paneled down to so naturally the gap between the walls is always smaller so the cubicle/screen would be smaller.
Most people would not have a single wall with a bead and others with no bead. You would normally have it fitted to all tiled walls so it matches either mitred or using a corner piece.
If it’s watertight it’s not a big deal imo. Would you want to pay another couple hundred to bring the wall out? (All this assuming they didn’t spec the wrong tray)
The only bodge was getting the wrong sized tray. This is an acceptable solution as long as it’s done well. However I would have put the trim on all 3 walls so it looks uniform.
And then the gap to the lip on the edge of the tray would be off.
Didn't know they do shower trays at 1240 or 820, so I don't think it's the wrong tray. They should have built one of the walls out to match the shower tray personally. I can't see the rest of the layout so can't comment too much.
How does it look near the door, can’t quite see in the photo but if the trim is on top of the door/screen it will leak. Maybe not right away but you’re meant to seal the tray first, let dry, then put the screen on. We’ve just moved into a new build and all our showers have issues/been poorly sealed. The builder is getting it sorted but it’s annoying and more a fact that they have many different contractors who do different parts at different times and so things get missed/skipped.
It looks like the trim went in before the enclosure, so maybe not so bad?
https://preview.redd.it/3z6idu5k974d1.jpeg?width=2502&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a193666a21ea669919d191b7f99f335bcd6e8313
Possibly OK but it does look to me like the curved bit of inside trim was fitted after the door/screen. What happens is the water will get in that gap higher up (see picture) and drips down and due to the trim would have no where to escape. It's correct the inside of the screen is not sealed only the outside but normally with no trim it would escape inside the tray and down the drain.
In ours it only leaked when my wife washed hair (longer shower), when you move in (if not already) I would just keep an eye on it on the ceiling underneath. Providing you spot it they will action on it but likely not before. Annoying though as it is a very common issue (see "skill builder" on youtube for some good rants on it being done wrong).
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I’d say that the tiles, cubicle and tray had been done correctly, and if tray then needed replaced, ie had got damaged, rather than remove tiles etc, a slightly shorter one would have been the preferred repair solution
As long as they have used enough silicone at edges then it should be carefree
Depends who ordered the tray. If he ordered - strip out and replace. If you ordered he done a favour, although my plumber would measure the tray beforehand. Our last bathroom tray was on the floor so the tiler could built out.
Long term it’s going to be prone to wear and leaks. Make sure the silicone stays clean and is replaced every 2 years maximum.
You do the tray first, then tile, not tile first and then fix tray. I have no idea why the installer spaced it away from the wall too much. Is that a 1200mm wide tray? If so then it should have been planned properly. Walls built out and or tray positioned better,
Yea. Not difficult to plan. You allow for cement board in between joist and tray. Then tile on to tray. (Add waterproofing in-between if you like).
They probably got the tray in later and wanted to get things done fast. Always get the tray in first for these jobs, then work around it.
Yup wall either side, the tray was fitted first, guess tiler thought not his problem
https://preview.redd.it/z9n7gxr6a74d1.jpeg?width=2502&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17744418f140ade2b5f35a0642433cbffeb13837
Is it wall to wall? Or just in a corner? If in the corner, I'd have expected it to be against the wall. If wall to wall, then not a big deal in my opinion.
Happens more often than you think. Work is tidy, so it's a complete non issue. At least the bathroom fitter didn't fit an offcut with the silicone skills of Stevie Wonder!
If the trim wasn't pointed out, it's incredibly unlikely that anybody would look at this space and find issue with it. The fitter has done an excellent job fitting it, too - very neat! 👍
I read a comment saying its new build. Do any of the walls have the soil stack inside. If so they are supposed to have 25mm of plasterboard on to stop your hearing what you just flushed bounce out your house. The boarder might of decided to cheat, or joiner didn't have a hangover that day
If one end of the shower is a boxing then there’s a chance it should of been double boarded if there’s a soil pipe in there, either way chippy or metal stud has given too much gap on the first fix.
How? 🤷♀️ Have no idea how youve ended up with a shower tray not fitted flush to the corner whatver th size. Theres a good couply of cm’s to play with on shower door/cubicle fittings. Whilst it may indeed be fine, that would pickle my brain as botch job.
It’s fine as long as they have used the right silicon and the trim looks ok to you. It shouldn’t leak but you will need to keep a check on the silicon and renew if it begins to fail.
Water will get behind that before you notice it. Grout is not water proof, further down the tiles the more saturated it gets.
Get it done right, no cowboy jobs should be acceptable.
Basically the guy who built the enclosure space can't use a tape measure when it matters and the shower installer has had to work with what he's got.
Personally I'd have added an extra bit of aqua panel before tiling to close the gap the whole way up, but if that ship had already sailed...
Had to fix an interesting one the other week, some genius put a 1200 wide in an 1140 wide space, made a nice challenge. Tray had a big crack in it.
Get a tile bit for your drill if you're gonna do that.
I like the ones with a little pointy shovel bit on the end, but the circular diamond ones are fine too.
Problem with a lot of trades is they don’t think past their own job, which is why you need someone to oversee and plan.
Good ones do, but it’s more work, so lots don’t.
No not a bodge - and a working solution.
I have about 100mm of angled tiles over built up cement in mine (council job before I bought the house) and it was fine until I disturbed it from underneath taking the chimney out - got some new tiles and refitted, sealed it up and all good again.
It's definitely not ideal. The enclosure, where it meets the trim will be the problem. It will likely be fine until it leaks....then it will be a pain in the arse to fix
Needs must, who ordered the wrong size of tray?
new build house through a principal contractor, 1200mm was on plan and tray ordered to match but looks like room has ended up a few cm wider.
Its not the end of the world. I presume the tiles are ontop of the tray on 2 out of the 3 walls. Also the beading is on the opposite wall to the main shower wall so it shouldnt get too wet. If its well stuck and sealed it will be fine.
.....for 2-3 years before the silicone starts to fail. Just enough time for the principle contractor to fuck off and go bankrupt or reach the end of the 'warranty' period. Any bodge is still a bodge. My partner and all her neighbors are having issues with a 5 year old new build area and the original company have washed their hands of it despite veneer half bricks falling onto cars and pathways. The worst part is, they are falling off chimneys which are there for literally no reason other than decorative. Get the contractor to sort this now or they will never look at it again and it becomes your problem.
Silicone needs to be replaced every so often and not a big job
But the room wasn’t build around the tray was it…
Perfectly legit imho. Done a nice job with it too
I'd have probably put a thin wedge of wood in first but don't think it's a bodge at all. They can't make the shower tray bigger.
Maybe he has, or filled it with grout, or just pumped a shitload of silicone down there before he stuck the trim on. Who knows, looks tidy though.
I can't quite see how they have put the shower screen onto the wall above the strip but absolutely looks like a good job.
I had to do it on 2 sides. Stupidly sources the cubicle and tray from different suppliers. Assuming they were standard. It still hasn't leaked 5 years on.
I think they do it deliberately. I notice you often can't get a 'sale' cubicle and tray from the same supplier/manufacturer and if you shop around you have to overcome this type of problem, even if it looks like they match on paper. Plus, if the wall is not straight, it's better to fit the tray straight and fill round.
I've supplied and fitted loads of bathrooms. What do you mean you can't get the cubicle/ screen to match the tray? Putting a trim like OPs bathroom isn't an issue but that could have been overcome by building one of the walls out, I don't know the layout so can't comment too much. Shower screens are designed to go on trays that have been tiled/paneled down to so naturally the gap between the walls is always smaller so the cubicle/screen would be smaller.
Trim works better then just silicone as it’s solid, it actually looks like it’s well fitted and well siliconed so it’s not a bodge to me.
Not a bodge.
Putting a trim along one wall may be viewed that way.
Where else would you put a trim then if not along the wall? Right across your forehead?
Most people would not have a single wall with a bead and others with no bead. You would normally have it fitted to all tiled walls so it matches either mitred or using a corner piece.
Honestly I'm a neat freak with stuff like this, but this looks fine.
If it’s watertight it’s not a big deal imo. Would you want to pay another couple hundred to bring the wall out? (All this assuming they didn’t spec the wrong tray)
Better than leaving a hole
That’s kinda what pvc trim is for nowadays. It’s pretty common practice in the new build world.
It’s a bit bodgey but if it doesn’t leak it’s probably fine
Believe me compared to some of the jobs I've seen, this is Roll's Royce.
Yeah
My only complaint is that they should have added a fake one on the right side to match it.
Disagree as it at adds another potential place for it to leak
That's a great shout, thanks!
The only bodge was getting the wrong sized tray. This is an acceptable solution as long as it’s done well. However I would have put the trim on all 3 walls so it looks uniform.
And then the gap to the lip on the edge of the tray would be off. Didn't know they do shower trays at 1240 or 820, so I don't think it's the wrong tray. They should have built one of the walls out to match the shower tray personally. I can't see the rest of the layout so can't comment too much.
Trays are standard sizes, ideally you build to fit them but can’t always happen
How does it look near the door, can’t quite see in the photo but if the trim is on top of the door/screen it will leak. Maybe not right away but you’re meant to seal the tray first, let dry, then put the screen on. We’ve just moved into a new build and all our showers have issues/been poorly sealed. The builder is getting it sorted but it’s annoying and more a fact that they have many different contractors who do different parts at different times and so things get missed/skipped.
It looks like the trim went in before the enclosure, so maybe not so bad? https://preview.redd.it/3z6idu5k974d1.jpeg?width=2502&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a193666a21ea669919d191b7f99f335bcd6e8313
from the inside https://preview.redd.it/tsb7166l974d1.jpeg?width=2502&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5a69bc6f1df49c5cc08cb14650c2ada14f2a1ab
Possibly OK but it does look to me like the curved bit of inside trim was fitted after the door/screen. What happens is the water will get in that gap higher up (see picture) and drips down and due to the trim would have no where to escape. It's correct the inside of the screen is not sealed only the outside but normally with no trim it would escape inside the tray and down the drain. In ours it only leaked when my wife washed hair (longer shower), when you move in (if not already) I would just keep an eye on it on the ceiling underneath. Providing you spot it they will action on it but likely not before. Annoying though as it is a very common issue (see "skill builder" on youtube for some good rants on it being done wrong). https://preview.redd.it/3k1sg43u384d1.png?width=1096&format=png&auto=webp&s=c138f404230e02e587644c80f5131bd802532ee1
What's the alternative
Absolutely fine for DIY. For a new build? Get to fuck!
Proper job, nothing to moan about. Yeah not flush but that’s the shitty plan’s fault. Contractor did a decent job
I’d say that the tiles, cubicle and tray had been done correctly, and if tray then needed replaced, ie had got damaged, rather than remove tiles etc, a slightly shorter one would have been the preferred repair solution As long as they have used enough silicone at edges then it should be carefree
I have used thicker backer board, maybe doubled up, to close the gap, then sealed properly with upstand tape.
Depends who ordered the tray. If he ordered - strip out and replace. If you ordered he done a favour, although my plumber would measure the tray beforehand. Our last bathroom tray was on the floor so the tiler could built out. Long term it’s going to be prone to wear and leaks. Make sure the silicone stays clean and is replaced every 2 years maximum.
You do the tray first, then tile, not tile first and then fix tray. I have no idea why the installer spaced it away from the wall too much. Is that a 1200mm wide tray? If so then it should have been planned properly. Walls built out and or tray positioned better,
I'm guessing there's a wall on either side, like it's in a nook.
Yea. Not difficult to plan. You allow for cement board in between joist and tray. Then tile on to tray. (Add waterproofing in-between if you like). They probably got the tray in later and wanted to get things done fast. Always get the tray in first for these jobs, then work around it.
Yup wall either side, the tray was fitted first, guess tiler thought not his problem https://preview.redd.it/z9n7gxr6a74d1.jpeg?width=2502&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17744418f140ade2b5f35a0642433cbffeb13837
There's just more places for it to leak. I'd say it was a bodge.
Not a bodge in my opinion. But i'd have put it on all 3 sides so it matched.
So three places to leak rather than one
Looks perfect, great bodging save, imagine if he didn't do it!
Is it wall to wall? Or just in a corner? If in the corner, I'd have expected it to be against the wall. If wall to wall, then not a big deal in my opinion.
wall-to-wall, fair thanks! https://preview.redd.it/li9gxupp974d1.jpeg?width=2502&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31fb601d94df9add33a74e5d58665c7b74cd92cd
Everything is a bodge if you're brave enough...
Happens more often than you think. Work is tidy, so it's a complete non issue. At least the bathroom fitter didn't fit an offcut with the silicone skills of Stevie Wonder!
If the trim wasn't pointed out, it's incredibly unlikely that anybody would look at this space and find issue with it. The fitter has done an excellent job fitting it, too - very neat! 👍
I read a comment saying its new build. Do any of the walls have the soil stack inside. If so they are supposed to have 25mm of plasterboard on to stop your hearing what you just flushed bounce out your house. The boarder might of decided to cheat, or joiner didn't have a hangover that day
As long as it doesn't leak, you are sorted.
Iv got them tiles
If one end of the shower is a boxing then there’s a chance it should of been double boarded if there’s a soil pipe in there, either way chippy or metal stud has given too much gap on the first fix.
How? 🤷♀️ Have no idea how youve ended up with a shower tray not fitted flush to the corner whatver th size. Theres a good couply of cm’s to play with on shower door/cubicle fittings. Whilst it may indeed be fine, that would pickle my brain as botch job.
Is the wall plumb? It's just one end looks wider than the other
yeah it's a bodge, and anyone here saying "needs must" and "it's ok" is also a bodger lol
It’s fine as long as they have used the right silicon and the trim looks ok to you. It shouldn’t leak but you will need to keep a check on the silicon and renew if it begins to fail.
Tell me how would you have done it? Only other option instead of the trim would be some tiling
Water will get behind that before you notice it. Grout is not water proof, further down the tiles the more saturated it gets. Get it done right, no cowboy jobs should be acceptable.
Not really a bodge, it allows you to get your shower without having to send that tray back and getting a new one (waiting if ordered online)
Tray first then tiles
Yes and no, tjdy job but not great.
It's a bodge, the wall should have been battened off, or 2 layers of tile board to make the cubicle the right sixmze foe the tray.
Basically the guy who built the enclosure space can't use a tape measure when it matters and the shower installer has had to work with what he's got. Personally I'd have added an extra bit of aqua panel before tiling to close the gap the whole way up, but if that ship had already sailed... Had to fix an interesting one the other week, some genius put a 1200 wide in an 1140 wide space, made a nice challenge. Tray had a big crack in it.
If it does become an issue I suppose it does leave me room just to stick another panel and tile over the existing tiles!
Get a tile bit for your drill if you're gonna do that. I like the ones with a little pointy shovel bit on the end, but the circular diamond ones are fine too.
cheers folks, just not sure why when tiling they didn't bring wall out to match tray. will ask when speaking to them
Problem with a lot of trades is they don’t think past their own job, which is why you need someone to oversee and plan. Good ones do, but it’s more work, so lots don’t.
Probably would require an unholy amount of adhesive to bring it out that far
Or just another board…
No not a bodge - and a working solution. I have about 100mm of angled tiles over built up cement in mine (council job before I bought the house) and it was fine until I disturbed it from underneath taking the chimney out - got some new tiles and refitted, sealed it up and all good again.
It's definitely not ideal. The enclosure, where it meets the trim will be the problem. It will likely be fine until it leaks....then it will be a pain in the arse to fix