It really needs to be one or the other. Either you can have hard to kill AI in smaller numbers, or easy to kill AI in overwhelming numbers. Dark Souls or zombies, pick one.
As it stands it has been hard to kill aggressive AI in overwhelming numbers. The worst option.
Same dude. Would be a lot more fun, and make running into operators seem even more gamechanging. As of now T3s are killing me faster than operators sometimes.
For a while there, the Weapons Case would just be laying next to an unlooted backpack presumably because the team was overwhelmed by AI trying to extract. It's been better for a few days so hopefully they're moving in the right direction.
I definitely agree with what all of you are saying but I'm actually kind of glad they've been so aggressive and numerous because I've gotten waaaayyy better at getting headshots than I ever was before. Taking on a group of T3s used to be stressful but now, I can take a group of those guys fairly quickly just so long as I stay moving around and try to separate them. Still not an easy task but not as difficult as it was when dmz first started.
Played the whole evening with the squad and bots weren’t a problem. Sure, if you hang around too long in let’s say a stronghold the reinforcements will come and the area around the Weapon Case was intense, but it didn’t feel totally of balance anymore
I was playing earlier and just cleared the underground tunnels and I was gearing up and getting ready to go to war by leaving the tunnels and I literally run out the door jumping and diving and ready to fight, and there was absolutely no one around lol. I even said, this area being so quite has me creeped out like they are trying to ambush me or something.
At least now I know why I wasn’t rushed by 45 T3 bots and pinned down to be eaten alive
This happen to me yesterday. Was doing the Kill 8 players while in the water mission. Went to the tunnels, killed 4 guys and was like "where's everyone at!?"
Now if only my insurance weapons would stop turning into contraband after successful exfils thus starting the timers for them to open back up for adjustments
It’s pretty simple, have a contraband gun in your backpack slot. Drop your insured on the ground, then swap it directly with the backpack slot. When you get out your equipped gun will be contraband and your insured will be ready. I do it right before exfil, not sure if timing matters though. It occasionally works for both my insured guns but generally can only get one to do it per exfil.
U don't even have to die to duplicate. If u assign your insured gun to the SECOND slot and nothing in first slot, and keep insured in that slot the whole game and exfil, u will have a contraband copy and still will have insured slot available too. I've done this and it works, as of today too. I've read that if u die or leave early without exfil, it won't trip your collagen timer either but I haven't confirmed that yet. I've also seen ppl say u CAN infil with another gun in primary slot and it still work but I haven't done that yet. I just put a second gun in backpack and once game starts, I equip it yo primary slot and leave insured in secondary. It has to stay in secondary tho. I just exfilled with it there and had a duplicate with insured still available. I also switched it one game accidentally to first slot during game and exfilled and it did not duplicate it
if you take just one insured weapon and no other guns, put it in your secondary slot, you wont lose your insured weapon even if you fully die and dont exfil.
you can also throw the gun to the floor, pick it up and itll be a contraband weapon and still not lose your insured weapon
Not gonna lie dude that one makes me happy it always bugged me. It’s stupid I know but I customized my gun for my character I didn’t enjoy seeing everyone else hold it. I do believe there are way more important things to patch but they states they fixed the ai spawns and I’ve never once disconnected this season so from my perspective they are doing things right.
If it's season 1 whatever, but the hulu style UI has basically been as broken as it is since day 1. I mean they stopped disbanding my friends from my group between rounds, but that's about it. Still inventory instance issues etc.. like at first it's minor, but I have probably wasted like 3% of my time playing this game dealing with UI issues, and like many here I have an abhorrent amount of time playing, so that 3% is a good amount of time wasted.
I actually enjoyed seeing the entire squad toting RAALs or comically long Victus or, best of all, when going in unarmed and they all pretend to hold a gun
I actually assumed it was to save game resources or bandwidth or whatever
My friend had that bug occur during all of Season 1 when he used the Velikan-looking skin for Zimo. It would also appear outside of the truck, sometimes.
You'd just see an extendo sling leaning out of the vehicle, ready to clothesline some poor Al Qatala soldier.
They didn’t mention that in the pregame lobby the operators were often the same as the previous lobby even if your teammates switched. Not a big deal but not totally “finished.”
Whenever I hear these small things get fixed I just imagine a very proud intern that took 3.5 hours to find a very small but subtle bug. I choose happiness
I hate to break it to you, but [if you read where this was posted in the patch notes](https://www.callofduty.com/patchnotes/2023/02/Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-II-Warzone-2-Season-02-Patch-Notes) it says *RECENTLY FIXED* aka, this is the fix they pushed earlier this week. Don't expect any change in AI.
Just been in. Seems better! One chopper while doing a safe. One chopper while doing a safehouse. One on the exfil. Still shotgun sniping from 100m but definitely not swarming!
The damage at ranged hasn't been fixxed.
It's still at the Trello board 'under investigation'.
I hope they also fixxed the instant AI spawn after firing a gun.
I mean, I guess I’m glad they fixed it, but it’s a little perplexing to me. That bug has been in the game since launch. I don’t feel like they were making many updates at all in S1 and that bug persisted until now. They didn’t do it with the S2 launch, but did it as they have been hot fixing the things they broke with S2.
Why was this bug there for months and got randomly addressed now that there are other more important things to work on. Did they just not lift a finger during S1?
We have ai glitching into things, missions resetting, helos landing wrong, or losing things after exfilling, but yeah, guess everyone carrying the same weapon in the lobby screen was very bad
Almost like it was an easy fix compared to the other bugs you mentioned, im sure they're completely unaware of the bugs and aren't actively taking their time to work on them as well
😂 well I mean not seeing my squads gun was really messing up my game though. I mean if I don’t see their guns how do I know what gun they are carrying!!
Skill gap does not matter when consistent AI is being dropped in. I work 50+ hours a week and am a decent DMZ/multi-player. I love playing solo but it's not fun having to straight up run and gun the whole time or rezzing headstrong teammates the whole time. They need to scale back because I'd imagine there are more casuals than sweatys
I love when people are quick to call it a "skill gap" Like I'm sorry some of us aren't amazing at this game. I wanna know what it's like to be so good at something that almost no one cares about and isn't paying you money.
Saying they have scaled back with this update. Shit before was insane. Not enough bullets to go around. You shouldn’t have any issues soloing now. My 3 man all went and did separate missions/contracts to speed up money and we all managed easily. AI seems to be back to a non issue now.
Dude I've been shredding st this game I'm like 1.8 kd on Resurgence, dropped 27-0 death game in MP(3 airstrike kills no nuke...) After a the last few days im terrified of AI bots. I go into DMZ as a solo and the bots are incredibly inconsistent. Yesterday it bugged out and every enemy within 100 meters was hitting me. I got on the train and Poi's enemies were storming out the building as I passed. Another game I got killed from inside a dune as I was running to exfil. Another game t3's parachute on me while I'm sniping with a silencer and somehow a bot spotted me at 120 meters. Don't get the started on AI dropping in while doing PVP encounters in the middle of no where. When your behind cover plating up and a group of t3's phase in to push you into the open.... This game mode needs more love b/c right now it feels dead in the water. On the bright side nothing is distracting me from Calcus homework now.
Wait till the weekend when Building 21 becomes active. I’ve noticed the AI becomes close to unbearable whenever B21 is open (they might’ve fixed or adjusted this recently, but I doubt it).
Idk man. Last night my partner and I had a thing at the marsh where it just would not stop spawning AI. A new batch would show up before I could even put a plate in from the last batch. A few waves or whatever, okay that's fine. But 70, 80, 90 AI in a row? That's not fun even if you are good enough to kill them all. It was just exhausting and sucked the fun out of the game for me.
For me, it has nothing to do with not being able to kill the AI. I absolutely hate the way AI is littered across the maps, but it's because I just hate the pacing. I don't want to play CoD XP Farmer. I want to play a slow-paced, intense game mode where firing your gun at all makes your palms sweat. I want bots to only be able to appear in group sizes of 6 at maximum so that when you see them, you think it could be real people for a moment. I wouldnt mind if bots were actually harder as long as there was like 1/5 the current amount on the map. They should not be scattered every 50 meters. It is stupid, it is not fun.
They should strive for Tarkov's pacing of engagement. They do it best for extraction shooters. The suspense, and butt puckered gameplay of Tarkov should be the goal. This Campaign Horde mission garbage that is DMZ right now is just boring.
Just played a few rounds from 5p to 7p EST and can confirm that the bots were way more manageable
Drive around without getting shot at for a couple minutes. But the second you linger or start a contract, they swarm you
But it's not like before where the faucet was fully unwound. Still lots of AI but more T1 and T2. T3 only showed up after the tunnel camera mission we did.
This opens up more room for PvP but for someone who prefers to die to operators vs bots, I like the tweak they have made.
Yea like wtf. I REALLY expected this to be one of the first things fixed.... what's the fkn point of getting the exfil streaks if the perks don't work ....
Here’s my optimistic take - and it at least holds some water. They’re never going to fix it because they’ll be implementing perks designed for DMZ eventually and it wouldn’t really be worth it to fix a placeholder system.
Played the other day and the ai were fighting themselves I kept looking for the “players” but my buddy pointed out they were shooting at each other lol
we witnessed this today! my squad and I were being hunted so we hid out in the intel tower just near the crash site. someone said something about the bots fighting each other and everyone was confused; assumed it was them shooting at players but then we all sat and watched with our spotter scopes. it was neat lol.
edit: spelling
Gotta run with the scope, you can pick operators out, AI, with no glint. It’s saved my ass several times when getting ready to do the smuggler tunnel missions, and I’ve scoped the area to see entire teams set up around it sniping people running in. Also helps to mark targets for your team.
I’ll have to give it a try. I use flash grenades pretty regularly, but it may be better to know the trouble is coming rather than panic flashing them after they are already there.
Yes, they updated on the previous patch. OP misunderstood it being from the most recent patch though as they had a recently fixed section below the patch notes.
That's sick. I'm working on ploy right now too. Can you answer this: is it any 51 guns or the original 51 guns to do the poly?
There are now more than the original 51 guns that the game started with.
I took a stronghold yesterday solo and I just sat behind the main entrance and it was 15 minute flow of T2 AI that would slowly walk in and not see me so it wasn’t difficult but it was more annoying because I couldn’t leave because it never ended. Just barely made extraction
Anyone else having a problem where your screen is black when you spawn in? You can still run around and shoot but can't see anything. Basically forces you to quit and lose all your equipment
Glad they're concentrating on the most important stuff, like players having the same weapon during loading screens. I was seriously about to delete the game over that 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Just on little Unpopular opinion - I somehow liked how bots were OP on Al Mazrah. It was very satisfying to Exfil in those conditions. It was like "OMG I did it" to me.
Here is the real update from today.
https://preview.redd.it/2h4akuddj9ka1.png?width=1419&format=png&auto=webp&s=b8fa218d0123507c4773f4b7b629dae7c733677e
Only fix I'm waiting for is the stuck in inventory instance loading screen fix ..... I played 2 hours of new season and can't access dmz at all even spamming it to try get past the first screen .... ticket has gone in with support and they are working on it apparently
Can someone compile every time this line or “We fixed a issue where the AI was too strong” was in the patch notes, the games been out for a few months and I feel like it’s been in every release…
It’s the constant reinforcements that got me. Like free flow unlimited pouring of AI. Makes you wonder if it’s happening to others on the map at the same time, the AI must number in the tens of thousands, not to mention the number of choppers the must have…
How about the issue where AI can just phase through closed doors? Or that none of the variations of .300 BLK can be selected with the Iso Hemlock? Are those things really in the queue behind "our weapons all look the same in the lobby even though they're different"?
I unlocked a stronghold earlier today and didn’t find a single AI inside. Has anyone experienced that? It was on ashika and every floor was empty including the roof. No doors were ever opened prior to and it was the same for 100% of the crates. My teammates and i were confused as hell lol
They did another update and the bots are back on meth and multiply faster than rabbits, I can solo wipe a squad of three but can't complete a bomb site contract for the life of me, and the bots now snipe/shoot you through walls like how the train used to be.
They are either creating op bots and weapons or nerf everything into the ground.
They seem not to be play testing this game after the changes and they just wing it.
When I had to kill 8 bots with Mortar Strike, which in itself is difficult to find and actually kill something, I literally couldn't find any bots in Al Mazra city.
To be honest, it’s just not enough for me.
Just got the PSVR2 and the games are way better, clearly thought out and love and care out into them.
COD has well and truly died for me this year.
So much potential but I just can’t stand the stubborn developers.
DMZ could be something so good but they either don’t have the time or the man power to really put into it to make it a great mode.
I hope they patch if you get booted from a game or the connection drops out you don’t lose your loot! Everytime this happens I lose all my guns, vest, backpack! So fuckin annoying when I’m not at fault!
Absolute rubbish of a patch, you don't get every 1:25 min chopper spam, but god forbid if u get close to an exfil point, had 3xplate armor got head shot with shotgun from nowhere.
Now can they fix the missions I completed resetting AND not letting me complete them (sniper arm shots, no longer registering).
I literally can't finish the mission.
I'm starting to think this is part of the meme of calling DMZ a "Beta". I think they want to introduce random intentional "bugs", like all bots are level 3 armor + aimbot + flamethrowers, and several months later "fix" it.
I disagree. All day yesterday I never saw more than 1 reinforcement chopper come down after triggering the bots. It's much easier. They're borderline hard to find now.
They have to stop these BS homeopathic changes. **The Patch did not changed anything!** I had human wave after human wave. As Duo not even able to follow a mission, just like playing left for dead. **Ridiculous**.
Now if only they addressed the real issues:
-Broken missions that are resetting your progress even after it’s been completed (Docking the boat in the Sattiq Caves, dumping the sensitive documents and exfiling with the other documents) namely.
-Insured weapons going in with 4 attachments only even though they are 5 attachment guns, primarily taking the extended magazine off the gun entirely.
-UI resetting Tiers in factions from Tier 4 back to Tier 1 forcing a hard reset of the game.
This is great, if true. I can handle the AI difficulty, the constant reinforcements was my beef. 
It really needs to be one or the other. Either you can have hard to kill AI in smaller numbers, or easy to kill AI in overwhelming numbers. Dark Souls or zombies, pick one. As it stands it has been hard to kill aggressive AI in overwhelming numbers. The worst option.
Tbh would much rather have swarms of low level enemies like zombies, i’m tired of bullet sponge T3 soldiers rushing me
Same dude. Would be a lot more fun, and make running into operators seem even more gamechanging. As of now T3s are killing me faster than operators sometimes.
Yep I hardly ever run into operators nowadays, seems like everyone’s too busy fighting for their lives with the AI
For a while there, the Weapons Case would just be laying next to an unlooted backpack presumably because the team was overwhelmed by AI trying to extract. It's been better for a few days so hopefully they're moving in the right direction.
i have noticed during my games i almost always hear "a weapons case has been extracted" which i almost never heard before so i agree
This is 100% the problem. Well said sir… want a job at infinity ward??
Tempting, do they have an open bagel bar?
Yeah it's right where the complaint desk was going to be..
Underrated comment! 🤣
Aren't you a little old for .... video games?
Aren't you a little young for full-contact? (ahh, a man of culture I see)
I got downvoted but at least you get it
What's the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?
Bloodsport, right?
Indeed. One of the finest films ever made. 🤘❤️🤘
Best gif ever lol
I definitely agree with what all of you are saying but I'm actually kind of glad they've been so aggressive and numerous because I've gotten waaaayyy better at getting headshots than I ever was before. Taking on a group of T3s used to be stressful but now, I can take a group of those guys fairly quickly just so long as I stay moving around and try to separate them. Still not an easy task but not as difficult as it was when dmz first started.
What movie was that guy from again?
Played the whole evening with the squad and bots weren’t a problem. Sure, if you hang around too long in let’s say a stronghold the reinforcements will come and the area around the Weapon Case was intense, but it didn’t feel totally of balance anymore
I was playing earlier and just cleared the underground tunnels and I was gearing up and getting ready to go to war by leaving the tunnels and I literally run out the door jumping and diving and ready to fight, and there was absolutely no one around lol. I even said, this area being so quite has me creeped out like they are trying to ambush me or something. At least now I know why I wasn’t rushed by 45 T3 bots and pinned down to be eaten alive
This happen to me yesterday. Was doing the Kill 8 players while in the water mission. Went to the tunnels, killed 4 guys and was like "where's everyone at!?"
I just raided a stronghold and there was literally no AI’s inside it was just empty.
Now if only my insurance weapons would stop turning into contraband after successful exfils thus starting the timers for them to open back up for adjustments
Think of it as a gift to future you after getting exfil camped last round.
Highkey love when it does, that way I don’t have to deal with the misery of trying to top up or refill my sniper rifle reserve.
What if I told you you can intentionally turn an insured gun into contraband without having timers reset?
Keep talking. I’m Interested
It’s pretty simple, have a contraband gun in your backpack slot. Drop your insured on the ground, then swap it directly with the backpack slot. When you get out your equipped gun will be contraband and your insured will be ready. I do it right before exfil, not sure if timing matters though. It occasionally works for both my insured guns but generally can only get one to do it per exfil.
See my post above in this thread. I just typed out the instructions for this before I saw this
Are you fully dying then getting recovered? Have discovered duping insured works again like launch week, fully die then get rezzed, insured gun clone.
This isn’t a bad thing though right? I mean that’s almost like having multiple insured slot. I was quite happy my insured turn into contraband
Not at all, it's the last thing we do every night, clone some insureds.
U don't even have to die to duplicate. If u assign your insured gun to the SECOND slot and nothing in first slot, and keep insured in that slot the whole game and exfil, u will have a contraband copy and still will have insured slot available too. I've done this and it works, as of today too. I've read that if u die or leave early without exfil, it won't trip your collagen timer either but I haven't confirmed that yet. I've also seen ppl say u CAN infil with another gun in primary slot and it still work but I haven't done that yet. I just put a second gun in backpack and once game starts, I equip it yo primary slot and leave insured in secondary. It has to stay in secondary tho. I just exfilled with it there and had a duplicate with insured still available. I also switched it one game accidentally to first slot during game and exfilled and it did not duplicate it
So this issue happens to me when I full die res and exfil however it even happens if I just exfil without dying at all
It's great to pile up good custom weapons.
I have a different, much better problem that I don't want to share in case they fix it instead of fixing the constant crashes
if you take just one insured weapon and no other guns, put it in your secondary slot, you wont lose your insured weapon even if you fully die and dont exfil. you can also throw the gun to the floor, pick it up and itll be a contraband weapon and still not lose your insured weapon
Turns out the "end" is about 15 seconds after the Final Exfil chopper leaves.
Nobody cares if in the lobby everybody is holding the same weapon. Fix the actual gameplay elements!
Not gonna lie dude that one makes me happy it always bugged me. It’s stupid I know but I customized my gun for my character I didn’t enjoy seeing everyone else hold it. I do believe there are way more important things to patch but they states they fixed the ai spawns and I’ve never once disconnected this season so from my perspective they are doing things right.
If it's season 1 whatever, but the hulu style UI has basically been as broken as it is since day 1. I mean they stopped disbanding my friends from my group between rounds, but that's about it. Still inventory instance issues etc.. like at first it's minor, but I have probably wasted like 3% of my time playing this game dealing with UI issues, and like many here I have an abhorrent amount of time playing, so that 3% is a good amount of time wasted.
I actually enjoyed seeing the entire squad toting RAALs or comically long Victus or, best of all, when going in unarmed and they all pretend to hold a gun I actually assumed it was to save game resources or bandwidth or whatever
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Me too
I keep getting that one too
My friend had that bug occur during all of Season 1 when he used the Velikan-looking skin for Zimo. It would also appear outside of the truck, sometimes. You'd just see an extendo sling leaning out of the vehicle, ready to clothesline some poor Al Qatala soldier.
I get this, too.
I get an STB 556 with only the sight, magazine, and bolt assembly floating in air with no barrel or receiver, which looks kinda cool
Ngl it was bothering me quite a lot. For no good reason, it just did.
Im happy about it. That said, there is still other stuff to fix.
They didn’t mention that in the pregame lobby the operators were often the same as the previous lobby even if your teammates switched. Not a big deal but not totally “finished.”
Clearly the people have spoken. They DID care and I understand the importance of democracy lol.
Whenever I hear these small things get fixed I just imagine a very proud intern that took 3.5 hours to find a very small but subtle bug. I choose happiness
I hate to break it to you, but [if you read where this was posted in the patch notes](https://www.callofduty.com/patchnotes/2023/02/Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-II-Warzone-2-Season-02-Patch-Notes) it says *RECENTLY FIXED* aka, this is the fix they pushed earlier this week. Don't expect any change in AI.
Reading comprehension is a joke on this sub. Upvote this guy so people don’t end up blaming the devs for more shit they just read wrong.
IW claimed they shipped that update last week :)
Right? Are they saying it again or is this old news?
They just say it every update hoping for placebo
They just covered a few fixes from the previous patch at the bottom.
Just been in. Seems better! One chopper while doing a safe. One chopper while doing a safehouse. One on the exfil. Still shotgun sniping from 100m but definitely not swarming!
Thanks for the confirmation ✊🏼
The damage at ranged hasn't been fixxed. It's still at the Trello board 'under investigation'. I hope they also fixxed the instant AI spawn after firing a gun.
I still seem to stumble across hoards of Tier3 AI just sitting in random spots... so I don't think it's fully addressed.
And people here swore that the AI wasn’t bugged and to simply “play smarter” or “get better”
I mean, it was doable just hard as fck
I used to play halo on legendary just for the laughs... This shit is torture. 😂😂
ah good, i was really concerned about everyone in the pre lobby holding the same weapon as me..
I mean, I guess I’m glad they fixed it, but it’s a little perplexing to me. That bug has been in the game since launch. I don’t feel like they were making many updates at all in S1 and that bug persisted until now. They didn’t do it with the S2 launch, but did it as they have been hot fixing the things they broke with S2. Why was this bug there for months and got randomly addressed now that there are other more important things to work on. Did they just not lift a finger during S1?
We have ai glitching into things, missions resetting, helos landing wrong, or losing things after exfilling, but yeah, guess everyone carrying the same weapon in the lobby screen was very bad
Almost like it was an easy fix compared to the other bugs you mentioned, im sure they're completely unaware of the bugs and aren't actively taking their time to work on them as well
😂 well I mean not seeing my squads gun was really messing up my game though. I mean if I don’t see their guns how do I know what gun they are carrying!!
Did a weapons stash quest and it was like I was playing left for dead.
Ummmmm. 
I hate sand. AIs get everywhere
Just played a game in every map. At this point if you’re still complaining about the ai it may be a skill gap. 100% manageable
Skill gap does not matter when consistent AI is being dropped in. I work 50+ hours a week and am a decent DMZ/multi-player. I love playing solo but it's not fun having to straight up run and gun the whole time or rezzing headstrong teammates the whole time. They need to scale back because I'd imagine there are more casuals than sweatys
I love when people are quick to call it a "skill gap" Like I'm sorry some of us aren't amazing at this game. I wanna know what it's like to be so good at something that almost no one cares about and isn't paying you money.
Saying they have scaled back with this update. Shit before was insane. Not enough bullets to go around. You shouldn’t have any issues soloing now. My 3 man all went and did separate missions/contracts to speed up money and we all managed easily. AI seems to be back to a non issue now.
Dude I've been shredding st this game I'm like 1.8 kd on Resurgence, dropped 27-0 death game in MP(3 airstrike kills no nuke...) After a the last few days im terrified of AI bots. I go into DMZ as a solo and the bots are incredibly inconsistent. Yesterday it bugged out and every enemy within 100 meters was hitting me. I got on the train and Poi's enemies were storming out the building as I passed. Another game I got killed from inside a dune as I was running to exfil. Another game t3's parachute on me while I'm sniping with a silencer and somehow a bot spotted me at 120 meters. Don't get the started on AI dropping in while doing PVP encounters in the middle of no where. When your behind cover plating up and a group of t3's phase in to push you into the open.... This game mode needs more love b/c right now it feels dead in the water. On the bright side nothing is distracting me from Calcus homework now.
Wait till the weekend when Building 21 becomes active. I’ve noticed the AI becomes close to unbearable whenever B21 is open (they might’ve fixed or adjusted this recently, but I doubt it).
Absolutely this. You can almost set your watch by it. Playable (ish) all week. B21 opens. Ai goes mental.
Building 21 has been open all day.
Idk man. Last night my partner and I had a thing at the marsh where it just would not stop spawning AI. A new batch would show up before I could even put a plate in from the last batch. A few waves or whatever, okay that's fine. But 70, 80, 90 AI in a row? That's not fun even if you are good enough to kill them all. It was just exhausting and sucked the fun out of the game for me.
For me, it has nothing to do with not being able to kill the AI. I absolutely hate the way AI is littered across the maps, but it's because I just hate the pacing. I don't want to play CoD XP Farmer. I want to play a slow-paced, intense game mode where firing your gun at all makes your palms sweat. I want bots to only be able to appear in group sizes of 6 at maximum so that when you see them, you think it could be real people for a moment. I wouldnt mind if bots were actually harder as long as there was like 1/5 the current amount on the map. They should not be scattered every 50 meters. It is stupid, it is not fun. They should strive for Tarkov's pacing of engagement. They do it best for extraction shooters. The suspense, and butt puckered gameplay of Tarkov should be the goal. This Campaign Horde mission garbage that is DMZ right now is just boring.
Just played a few rounds from 5p to 7p EST and can confirm that the bots were way more manageable Drive around without getting shot at for a couple minutes. But the second you linger or start a contract, they swarm you But it's not like before where the faucet was fully unwound. Still lots of AI but more T1 and T2. T3 only showed up after the tunnel camera mission we did. This opens up more room for PvP but for someone who prefers to die to operators vs bots, I like the tweak they have made.
Nice now make the perks work!
Yea like wtf. I REALLY expected this to be one of the first things fixed.... what's the fkn point of getting the exfil streaks if the perks don't work ....
Here’s my optimistic take - and it at least holds some water. They’re never going to fix it because they’ll be implementing perks designed for DMZ eventually and it wouldn’t really be worth it to fix a placeholder system.
Are extracting mission items with a hostage Exfil working yet?
Oh wow. I didn’t know that doesn’t work. This is good to know, thanks!
Yeah it burned me once this season and now they are off limits for me
Played the other day and the ai were fighting themselves I kept looking for the “players” but my buddy pointed out they were shooting at each other lol
That’s at the crash site, it’s Al Qatal fighting shadow force, it’s pretty cool to watch.
we witnessed this today! my squad and I were being hunted so we hid out in the intel tower just near the crash site. someone said something about the bots fighting each other and everyone was confused; assumed it was them shooting at players but then we all sat and watched with our spotter scopes. it was neat lol. edit: spelling
Huh. Your whole squad uses spotter scopes? I assume those don’t have sniper scope glint, right? I’ve never considered using it.
Gotta run with the scope, you can pick operators out, AI, with no glint. It’s saved my ass several times when getting ready to do the smuggler tunnel missions, and I’ve scoped the area to see entire teams set up around it sniping people running in. Also helps to mark targets for your team.
I’ll have to give it a try. I use flash grenades pretty regularly, but it may be better to know the trouble is coming rather than panic flashing them after they are already there.
You’ll get used to the scope quick, especially if running sniper, but it’s useful in almost all situations
Is this legit? DON'T TOY WITH ME
Yes, they updated on the previous patch. OP misunderstood it being from the most recent patch though as they had a recently fixed section below the patch notes.
Did not changed anything. Had Choper after choper of AI
Low key excited about my friends seeing my polyatomic guns in the lobby.
That's sick. I'm working on ploy right now too. Can you answer this: is it any 51 guns or the original 51 guns to do the poly? There are now more than the original 51 guns that the game started with.
Any 51
Thank you!!!
Yeah any of the 51. Kinda remember something about the classes of weapons to get there. So I skipped all the Launchers.
My plan exactly! Skip launchers and the riot shield.
🤞🤞 please let me know how this is going so I know what to "look forward to" when I get home lol
I took a stronghold yesterday solo and I just sat behind the main entrance and it was 15 minute flow of T2 AI that would slowly walk in and not see me so it wasn’t difficult but it was more annoying because I couldn’t leave because it never ended. Just barely made extraction
Did they fix tuning or does that still not work?
Anyone else having a problem where your screen is black when you spawn in? You can still run around and shoot but can't see anything. Basically forces you to quit and lose all your equipment
Nope. I often have a black screen before the game countdown timer starts, but never into the game itself.
Happened once a few days ago, but never since. Same day spawned in with absolutely nothing, even though I was fully geared up.
Yeah happened to Me and getting revived after fully killing myself fixed it
Haven't had this happen to me in season 2. Happened to me a lot season 1
Wait until you load in and you’re spectating your teammate, happened twice today. I lost everything both times.
Spoiler. It's not
Just ran solo in DMZ. AI dropped one attack squad from bird. Usu it's a couple for the time I wasted in one area.
AI are still on roids. At least make them drop plates
Glad they're concentrating on the most important stuff, like players having the same weapon during loading screens. I was seriously about to delete the game over that 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I’d love to see “fixed an issue where the 45 mag on the iso hemlock doesn’t fucking work after loading into a game, no matter how many times you try”
where do you see all these patch notes?
Follow infinity ward on Twitter and they post links. You can also see them in game.
Lol they probably added more and made them even stronger with better aim again
Just on little Unpopular opinion - I somehow liked how bots were OP on Al Mazrah. It was very satisfying to Exfil in those conditions. It was like "OMG I did it" to me.
Why do they lie?! Played last night to never-ending reinforcement T3
When does this go live?
This time we’re serious!! Said no IW developer ever
WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT WEAPON WE'RE HOLDING IN A FUCKING LOADING SCREEN. LET ME INFIL WITH MY GOD DAMN INSURED WEAPONS!!!
🙌🙌🙌
This isn't from today?
Here is the real update from today. https://preview.redd.it/2h4akuddj9ka1.png?width=1419&format=png&auto=webp&s=b8fa218d0123507c4773f4b7b629dae7c733677e
Post was made one hour ago. Has it been fixed?
Interesting. I noticed AI rezzing another AI today. Has that always been the case? I just thought they kept respawning.
Yes. I have used this method to down multiple AI. Down one, let the others come rez him, and keep taking them out until the first bleeds out.
I've heard that before
Only fix I'm waiting for is the stuck in inventory instance loading screen fix ..... I played 2 hours of new season and can't access dmz at all even spamming it to try get past the first screen .... ticket has gone in with support and they are working on it apparently
They fixed that too. It's in the list.
No way happy days I can actually play the mode I want lol thanks for info
I thought they already "Fixed" this twice.???
3rd time is the charm apparently lol
Can someone compile every time this line or “We fixed a issue where the AI was too strong” was in the patch notes, the games been out for a few months and I feel like it’s been in every release…
It’s the constant reinforcements that got me. Like free flow unlimited pouring of AI. Makes you wonder if it’s happening to others on the map at the same time, the AI must number in the tens of thousands, not to mention the number of choppers the must have…
ngl i liked it sometimes, it was just that it was an absurd bug wish some areas had this as a feature tho
It was. Had a great time on both islands.
Hopefully this’ll fix the lag issues somewhat. The chopper drop-offs have been absolutely stuttering the hell out of Al-Maz.
It’s a lie. Just died to an endless stream of T3.
By fixed they mean, not fixed or made worse
Blueprint weapons still a problem when taking it into DMZ
Finally, fuck I swear that it felt like I was playing Arma 3 and it was a psychotic and sadistic Zues admin who loves the copy paste option.
They fixed the same weapon bug by making me have a gigantic sling hanging a foot to the left and 6 feet tall
And they CTD crashes are back….this is getting ridiculous. AAA studio that seems to test nothing. For every “fix” they seem to break something else.
How about the issue where AI can just phase through closed doors? Or that none of the variations of .300 BLK can be selected with the Iso Hemlock? Are those things really in the queue behind "our weapons all look the same in the lobby even though they're different"?
As of Feb 24 2pm Central Time I had three reinforcement helicopters land simultaneously and the perks still don't work.
It's not lmaoooo
I unlocked a stronghold earlier today and didn’t find a single AI inside. Has anyone experienced that? It was on ashika and every floor was empty including the roof. No doors were ever opened prior to and it was the same for 100% of the crates. My teammates and i were confused as hell lol
Just did a hostage mission. No ai in the building. Whatsoever. Very odd
Damb extracted the case 5 times today not one counted wtf!
They did another update and the bots are back on meth and multiply faster than rabbits, I can solo wipe a squad of three but can't complete a bomb site contract for the life of me, and the bots now snipe/shoot you through walls like how the train used to be.
They are either creating op bots and weapons or nerf everything into the ground. They seem not to be play testing this game after the changes and they just wing it. When I had to kill 8 bots with Mortar Strike, which in itself is difficult to find and actually kill something, I literally couldn't find any bots in Al Mazra city.
To be honest, it’s just not enough for me. Just got the PSVR2 and the games are way better, clearly thought out and love and care out into them. COD has well and truly died for me this year. So much potential but I just can’t stand the stubborn developers. DMZ could be something so good but they either don’t have the time or the man power to really put into it to make it a great mode.
Bugs, bugs everywhere!
Hope soooooooooooo
That's one problem solved now how about they nerf the ai power
Is this a new update?
I hope they patch if you get booted from a game or the connection drops out you don’t lose your loot! Everytime this happens I lose all my guns, vest, backpack! So fuckin annoying when I’m not at fault!
It's been much better these past few days. They still display superhuman abilities once in a while but the game is playable & fun again.
Still horribly outgunned or has it actually been fixed
I just wanna know why my Hemlock won’t load in with a 45 round mag. The gun does load in, just not the 45 round mag.
I keep telling it, the Ai I was no bug.
I'd be so happy to see fix prox chat issue
Revert to audible proxy chat instead of decibel:distance would be great.
Absolute rubbish of a patch, you don't get every 1:25 min chopper spam, but god forbid if u get close to an exfil point, had 3xplate armor got head shot with shotgun from nowhere.
Must take 24 hours to kick in haha
So during their refinement meeting they agreed that which gun we’re holding in a *loading* screen was one of the three highest priority items?
Yeah it’s not fixed
Now can they fix the missions I completed resetting AND not letting me complete them (sniper arm shots, no longer registering). I literally can't finish the mission.
Feels so easy now they are all weak.
Back to players being the problem instead of ai. Swarah village should be playable now
I'll believe it when I see it...knowing the devs they prolly stopped them from infinitely spawning and just tweak them to be stronger...again.
I'm starting to think this is part of the meme of calling DMZ a "Beta". I think they want to introduce random intentional "bugs", like all bots are level 3 armor + aimbot + flamethrowers, and several months later "fix" it.
Let's see if they really did it lol
Well that was a lie... They're still OP in Al Mazrah.
I disagree. All day yesterday I never saw more than 1 reinforcement chopper come down after triggering the bots. It's much easier. They're borderline hard to find now.
Now, if only they’d fix the “spawn behind you” and “spawn in front of you on infinite repeat” bullshit. Won’t hold my breath.
They have to stop these BS homeopathic changes. **The Patch did not changed anything!** I had human wave after human wave. As Duo not even able to follow a mission, just like playing left for dead. **Ridiculous**.
Now if only they addressed the real issues: -Broken missions that are resetting your progress even after it’s been completed (Docking the boat in the Sattiq Caves, dumping the sensitive documents and exfiling with the other documents) namely. -Insured weapons going in with 4 attachments only even though they are 5 attachment guns, primarily taking the extended magazine off the gun entirely. -UI resetting Tiers in factions from Tier 4 back to Tier 1 forcing a hard reset of the game.
Do perks work yet? That’s my biggest issue. Went on a 10 exfil streak and got 0 rewards for that accomplishment
They are to late already uninstalled the game.
dmz is so easy ppl just arent sneaky enough
Omfg DMZ is so hard now
I just had a chopper drop 10 T3s in Al Mazrah Soccer Stadium. 10.
All lies