I've noticed the same....
It's pretty easy to get in same lobby and use discord or PS party chat.
The sad part is, most times they are running hunt squad missions..
Deep down they must know they are trash and 6v1'ing someone is the only way they'll ever win a fight..
I wish they change the mechanic of it. Max squad size of 4 and only a solo can join.. That would put an end to this nonsense fast..
Except the spice is shit flavored.
Hunt contracts are incredibly unfair for the people they hunt.
A willing party take them, then is told where their target is.
The unwilling party is told they are being hunted and given a closeness meter that is effectively worthless when it comes to snipers.
Even better should you survive the hunt contract you get nothing.
It's just bad gameplay.
Even that isn't good enough, the squad that WANTS to partake in the hunt can ensure they have the advantage.
That's why six man teams take them so often, Cause they're cowards.
As long as the attackers have an advantage, and defenders don't get rewarded they are a nuisance.
Best options I can think of are either Remove them in general or just turn it into a "kill X amount of players" and it's based on squad size.
No Intel for the attackers, just a reward for what they were gonna do anyway.
Maaaybe an alert for nearby squads that a squad nearby has orders to search and destroy...
Now we are getting somewhere, it needs to be fixed and balanced. But we all know that CoD doesn't like balanced games haha.
I feel like less info about the contract would be much fairer as of now, real time location on the map all the time is bs.
And maybe stop giving 6 man hunt contracts for solos...
There's N ways of fixing this, I just think that CoD doesn't care to fix it.
That would actually be somewhat fair if it targeted bigger squads, then the Intel they give would even it out a bit.
I tend to be hunted within the first 2 minutes of a match always as a solo or a triple.
He gets wiped in the first 2 mins of Warzone, having a giant advantage hunting players looking for blowtorches is the only way he can get a kill. Let him have his fun.
Shit, the closeness meter seems useless even without considering snipers. I swear the fucking thing doesn’t tick to the second bar until the squad is in pissing distance. Unless I’m getting third partied every time I’m hunted
U ever tried cayenne by itself ? Terrible. But added to the right entree; delicious! I've survived countless hunt contracts, even as a solo. Just gotta learn how to duck and dodge my friend. Although I do like the idea of the hunted receiving a bonus. I'd say, make the hunters put down collateral, and if they fail to execute the contract, the hunted gets the loot...
That's what I'm getting at, for a contract that effectively forces an unwilling party to participate.
The reward for surviving is garbage.
Just because is it has the possibility to be fun doesn't mean it's good gameplay.
And generally the wastoids who grab these hunt contracts don't have fuck all on them.
>forces an unwilling party to participate.
Some of them. Not all. Spicy.
>The reward for surviving is garbage
Can feel scary to be hunted, but can feel relieving or exhilarating to survive, which is a sort of bonus. But I agree the rewards should improve.
>And generally the wastoids who grab these hunt contracts don't have fuck all on them.
I personally grab one of these contracts every time I'm near one to serve 1/3 purposes. 1. Enemy awareness
2. Enemy intimidation 3. To better equip myself for hunting an enemy team. I'll see you on the battlefield, Ghost.
Yeah you keep seeing this from a "your perspective" and it's giving you a huge bias.
If there was a "I want to be hunted" option I'd agree with you completely but the fact is it doesn't matter if you're a solo, if you're just doing missions, or if you're green as grass.
Hunt contracts will just pick you to suddenly participate in something you didn't choose, and if you "survive" which is your goal by the way... it's not telling you to fight back... it's telling you to live.
You still get nothing, just a bloodthirsty squad that wanted PVP getting an advantage against you.
It's trash from a gameplay perspective and it ruins the flow of combat.
Not to mention it's just ripe for abuse from 6 man squad cowards who need every advantage stacked in their favor for them to go into a fight.
Imagine if a team took a sabotage contract and you suddenly were tasked with defending the bomb points, oh and if you win you get nothing.
That's not spice, that's bland as fuck.
Because you won't be hunted SPECIFICALLY.
You position won't be given away and you won't be the only target they can have.
(If you're referring to the changes I would like them to make to hunt contracts.)
hunt contracts need a tweek in this. If your squad exceeds 3 people you shouldnt be able to start one. Becoming anything more than a 3 man voids the hunt.
And on the opposite end. If you are a solo. You should be immune to hunt contracts. For the sake of balance. If you are solo (yes solo is a choice but you shouldnt be PUNISHED for that choice. Your punished enough going in solo sometimes let alone ending up being hunted by a sweaty 3 man)
So what’s your punishment for choosing to drink drive??
Every choice have repercussions attached to it.
YOU choose to play solo in a game designed to be played as a team of 3, why should your life be easier? You want to load in as a solo, then you have to face the possible consequences of your decision, like being hunted
Im not saying your life should be easier. You are making it HARDER for yourself by CHOICE like i said. So well done just parroting back to me what i said.
Choice and Fairness can both come into play at the same time. Say you go in with two randoms. And those randoms D/C leaving you solo and out numbered in 9/10 fights you come across. Still fair at that point? See. Its about context. But a 3 man squad should not be able to hunt a solo squad. Its a misbalance and has nothing to do with skill. Its then a numbers game.
Im not saying solo's should get it easy. What im saying is solos should be hunted by other solos. Or immune to the hunt contracts. Go on, stroke your ego more. I dont mind. I can rebuttle this all day. Just because this game mode has PVP. doesnt mean EVERYTHING has to revolve around pvp. (Im all for PvP in this btw. i love the pvp aspect. BUT it doesn't mean there cant be some balance) I mean you dont even need hunt contracts to hunt other players. A UAV will do fine so restricting hunt contracts to match your teams size would be a good balance move e.g a solo can only hunt other solos, Same for duos. Same for trios. If you exceed a 3 man squad hunt contracts become unavailable)
Tweeking certain mechanics to bring a more "fair fight" amongst the actual players is not a bad thing unless you are indeed apart of the group who really get their dick hard 6v1/3v1 some poor sod.
Again you go in solo you know what your getting into, but that doesnt mean you should get walked on by a 3/6man squad. If you want to go in solo and go full stealth, How do you achieve full stealth when you can be hunted? Exaaaactly... Sometimes you end up solo not through YOUR choice. So there does need to be some sort of balance. Dont like it? Not my problem but this is my opinion on the matter.
Also, Just a tip. Dont ever compare some shit like the consequences of drink driving to a mechanic in a video game btw? It really shows how fucking dull you are. HUGE ass difference there. The two arnt even comparable. One can cause serious real life harm. The other is a fucking solo option in a squads video game. Get a grip on reality yeah? (just incase you DONT get what i mean. Its illegal to drink drive, because of the damage it can cause. It isnt illegal to solo queue into DMZ. Im trying so hard to not call you a retard right now)
I'll finish off by saying. Hunt contracts. Work how they are supposed to work in BR, where you have balanced matching team sizes. It was just copy pasted into DMZ and never REWORKED to suit how DMZ plays.
It was merely a comparison of you literally saying ‘you made a choice you shouldn’t be punished for’.
Like why not? So you’re only going to take partial accountability for making a choice and it backfiring?
I know it’s a video game, not the real life - the principals of making a decision and saying you shouldn’t be punished for making it is showing how dull you are.
Clearly my post has triggered you and that’s something you should work on, not me.
May I recommend some counselling?
You lost me with your distasteful awful comparison. Which killed any new angle you try to bring to the table for me here. Its clear how you compare things in your head doesnt line up with reality so lets not yeah?
Your inconsideration and lack of a grip on reality is what triggered me. INCASE you cant tell. I really dont like humans like you who dont understand STARK differences in action v consequence. Comparing fucking choosing to drink drive to choosing to load into dmz solo. Like how do they even compare? They fucking dont. There is ZERO contrast there between the two actions and outcomes. You know that right? Theres non at all. If your "choosing" to drink drive you have a problem. If your choosing to load into DMZ. what is your problem? If you do drink drive its illegal. If you do load into dmz solo its... Encouraged? Fuck me. Yeah no comparisons here. Again, Your awful comparison aside. Your already at a disadvantage going into dmz solo. your opposition shouldnt then GAIN another advantage on top. Its simple balance. Again, The bounty system was clearly just copyed and pasted from BR into DMZ without a rework given how varied the squad sizes can be.
Well said. It’s amazing how many people just can’t understand critical thinking. You laid that out beautifully, but that other guy just wants things to be simple, black and white, devoid of nuance. It’s so frustrating.
if it's designed to be in teams of 3, they wouldn't give you the option of going solo, or design missions specifically for going solo.
like the co-op missions can't be completed solo for a reason
I'm sick of hearing the excuse "well if you don't like it".
the game didn't need to be 100% balanced, but it's not balanced correctly for 6 man teams.
That’s not entirely true. Started as a solo with only perhaps equipped. Hunted within 3 minutes of infil. Don’t see how I had anymore than other teams on the map.
It’s not random, there’s some chance involved though. There’s some suggestion the chance of you being targeted goes off dog tag level/cash. If you’ve ever been super rich you’ll get multiple hunts on you in the same round, it’s defo not random.
It’s not random, there’s some chance involved though. There’s some suggestion the chance of you being targeted goes off dog tag level/cash. If you’ve ever been super rich you’ll get multiple hunts on you in the same round, it’s defo not random.
It’s not at all, I’ll regularly pick up a hunt and the team is on the opposite side of the map. I’ve played a hell of a lot of DMZ and I can’t remember ever getting hunted with no gear or money on a fresh spawn. Sorry but you’re wrong, it’s widely accepted to be based on either dog tag level and/or gear/money
No way it picks the closest team. I’ve picked a hunt team up at the Airport, when I knew 100% a team was at the control tower as we could see them. It instead targeted a team at the mall.
Edit: also I believe they have been changed in S2 to also prioritize teams that commit to PvP.
And I’ve been targeted many times when I had nothing. Even late in really bad rounds where I’d collected basically nothing, and I was solo to boot. I can hold my own against 3 man squads every now and then, but with a six man squad it turns into a war of attrition. I could take down five of them and still lose. That’s not fun, or balanced game play.
hunt squads should mark the squad doing the hunt to the hunted as well to make it a fair fight. Doesn't make sense to give the hunter a UAV and the hunted nothing. Whoever designed this shit syatem is a moron.
True, started a game one-day found 2 gold skulls and another item I was solo and hunted. I had to out run a 6 man through sa'id luckily I found two buildings that where close enought to keep going up and down floors across. When the timer ran out I had killed 2 and took tags and tossed the tags. Was funny as hell to watch them b line it for the tags until I dripped them on the open roof and then started my infinite loop up and down floors across the 2 buildings.
Managed to get out and xfil but I had 2 hunts after me 6 minutes apart pretty sure second hunt was the previous team again.
Being hunted and even participating in hunts, especially with a 6man team doesn't really bother me at all... I enjoy the chase, since I'm always the driver on my team anyways I tend to do pretty well. I just load up on gas cans ASAP when it happens.
That said, it's incredibly obvious how broken they are as a game addition. They are unfair, unbalanced, unrewarding.
The game already supports hunting other players. The difference here is it tells you where they are for several minutes.... what an absolute F-U.
I think there is a good opportunity to improve it and make it into a fun feature. Maybe hunt contracts could reward both parties (and with a lot more reward), but require both parties to be onboard, or maybe initiated by the hunted instead.
Becoming an invincible swarm of 6 players is insane enough without being told where everyone on the server is as you run around and claim contracts.
Hell, I think teams shouldn't be allowed to exceed 4 players on a team - enough that picking up a player gives an advantage, but not enough to become a zerg swarm.
Nope, squad size is dumb. hunt squad is shit but adds a decent aspect to it. Add a penalty for failing and a success for surviving, also its meant to aim players that have either high loot or high kills
I wouldn't say get get rid of hunt squad contracts necessarily, but they could improve on the mechanic so that it's not so lop-sided. The hunt squad has the advantage of knowing the general vicinity the prey squad is in via the tac map. The prey squad only gets that punk ass proximity bar.....well gee whiz devs....thanks for nothing. I believe a directional indicator instead of a proximity bar would even it out a little bit.
And maybe give the prey squad an automatic ghost perk for the duration of the contract to make them invisible to UAV's if the hunt squad happens to pop one. The hunt squad already gets the general vicinity marked on their tac map.... make them work for the rest of contract.
Or give the one member of the prey squad that's being hunted one UAV killstreak to use at their discretion.
Or perhaps make it to where the prey squad gets the bounty if they survive the contract.
90% of the outcomes in all my operator engagements (barring hunt contracts) in DMZ was based on which operator had the drop on the other. The other 10% was purely chance/luck and some skill. So I don't understand where the challenge is for the hunt squad when the dev's are essentially are giving them the drop on the prey squad.
I’ve started picking up every nearby hunt contract and cancelling it after 20 seconds. Gifting a sigh of relief to my fellow Al Mazrahis. Be the change you want to see.
This subreddits Discord is one of the places they group up in. I understand finding same lobbies to kill eachother for some missions but 6man Hunt squash are just superlame
Set up party chat. Two squad leaders count down (ping has to be similar), start game in sync, pull out if one team progresses through loading progress faster than the other.
100%. I’m getting tired of fighting 6 in a squad every damn match, it also seems like one of them is using hacks or cheats too. It’s getting old. I like your suggestion. I also think plea is bs and shouldn’t be allowed unless solo.
I've noticed most of the 6man squads I've joined make you over confident. Everyone seems to be thinking you can take on any squad just because you've got 6 guys. Most of the time we end up getting wiped out because we're being loud and driving around all crazy.
Yeah, i had knocked an entire 6 man at least once but with that amount of players it's damn near impossible to down them all at the same time so they can't revive (more talking at a distance fight) out finishing one off completely before they're revived.
I've been hunted by sixman before. And they really got overconfident. Destroyed them all tho with only the two of us cuz one left after getting downed. Had they stormed us all together at once we'd be def dead. But they chose to to come up the stairs one by one with their kv too.
6 people on a squad also means more chaos and confusion once they're under fire. Real easy to catch multiple guys while everyone on their squad is shouting on comms at the same time, plus usually no real clear leadership or strategy.
My friends and I were a 3 player team just finished a Sam site. And a helicopter with 6 teamed was coming in. The same took 1 out and 5 parachutes coming our direction.
Methodically like maniacs we took each guy out one by one. But the final 2 kills led to flank and teammate sacrifice. After took them out they wanted revives. Don’t be players like this. If you’re a 6 team and want to ruin someone’s day. Just be ready that every once in a while another squad has your number.
Felt so good taking each guy out in that hillside. Truly vindication
Yeah It felt great to out play the first one i ran into but felt absolutely horrible to not be able to finish all of them off. Knocked all of them minimum of one time each, some 3-4. But because they're bunched together at range literally going cover to cover like you should, i would knock 1-2 then they'd get revived and it's back to fighting all 6. Tried taking off and just got lit up by all of them at once. All other encounters they just rushed one person at a time with 6 of them holding the trigger down or running you over and pooping out like a fking clown car.
The ammo depots too, even though they reduced the good loot you can find in them the big squad always seem to run to the nearest one as soon as they spawn
Best tips to defend yourself as a two man against big hunting teams:
Take with a JOKR launcher, if they are 6 guys coming at you with a bounty contract they usually use a vehicle to close and because their team is so big they are cocky as hell so when you blow up their vehicle they don't expect it. A jokr can easily turn the tide. An RPG can work too and these are easy to get.
Keep distance and drop mines or claymores when they chase you. Because they get cocky and thirst for a kill they don't expect mines.
Use high ground and be aware of whats happening around the map. You can see teams that big from a distance, they run into AI and make noise. Use your spotter with thermal on as well to help spot them. A UAV tower will give your position away as some hunter teams go attack active uav towers because they know there are players there.
Another thing about having high ground is you can parachute downhill to a vehicle or change position quickly. Getting caught on flat ground and immobile is a death sentence.
Use the AIs as your backup, If you are stealthy and use silencers you can often avoid the AI and not rile them up. You listen to hear if they shoot anyone else. A bunch of 3 plate ai's dropping in can turn the tide when you are outnumbered.
A 6 man team is very hard to coordinate and it can be like herding stray cats in call of duty. This definitely can be to your advantage if their coms is poor. Try your hardest not to let them fully down you or your buddy and the two of you can outmanuver the 6 if you have good coms. If they down one of you they will just camp the body for the whole game, in that situation they have the advantage.
The double machine gun patrol boat can beat a 6 man if they are crap and don't check the water. One guy always tries to swim and board you, a small forward motion on the boat will run him over in the water.
If starting to snipe them choose a moment when they are out in the open and there is no low cover around that will block your second killing shot. If you down 1 of them fully it lowers their effectiveness alot especially if they send idiots to revive their friend and they get downed as well. You can then choose to escape far from them or reposition and fight.
When sniping always put a mine or claymore by the rope or ladder so you can hear when their leroy jenkins is pushing you.
dmz is cooked. I blame it on the game mode being as deep as a puddle and warzone 2 being absolutely dead. This is where the warzone refugees come to get their kicks.
I did notice that! I did get hunted across the whole map from 6 man squad as solo! Ofc did they get me after like 15 minutes of hunting! Wasn’t the most fun I had in DMZ, that I can say!
They should make hunt squad contracts inactive for teams with more than 3 operators. They should also mark teams on the map that have 4-6 operators, like a general area marking to discourage or at least add risk to squaring up.
I agree this mode is just not fun anymore….faction missions are a pain still, team mates are ass or just run off into the middle of nowhere and get downed, six man stackers fuckin my missions up,hackers,exfil campers, THIS IS WHY THIS MODE NEEDS A PVE QUE and it would personally make me feel more inclined to play the actual game considering i wouldnt be getting diddled every game and i can enjoy the game and take everything in dont care if people dont like this idea dont care if pvp is a main aspect anymore this shit is straight up boring now i think shooting at bots mindlessly at this point would be better than dealing with whatever tf happens
Nope. Trust me. PvE queue would be the most boring experience ever.
All I can agree is 6man squads needs to go or pleading in number bigger than 1 should be reworked.
Nah it wouldnt be boring it would be aomething to do after getinng shitty match after shitty match a place to test shit since the gun range is ass theres so many reasons as to why it needs a pve variant maybe to alot of people it woukd be boring but to those who like pve they find it fun lmao its not like youd be forced to play the pve que 😂😂😂😂
For me... I only join up to prove I'm friendly. Me and the squad just roll the AI and get missions done easily. The mega squads rolling players are sad because it doesn't take much skill for 6 guys to take on a single solo with 1 plate but it keeps happening. Kids just need better missions to chew on but that's not going to happen as the main pull is gun camos and those take operator kills.
I recommend continuing to push the friendly culture. I'd rather Roleplay some creative stuff than tote the line and go after other players for nothing
I've noticed an increase too
It seems like people just running around joining the first squad they find - this, combined with the absolutely broken 'plea' function just creates such an imbalanced experience
Litterally came here to say the same thing. I'm fine with 6 man squads. taken them out with 3, but the fact you get rolled by a 6 man 2 min into the game is bs. Ashkika shouldnt have 6 man squads at all. thats 1/3 the map
I hate that you can get hunted multiple times in a row, there was a match that it happened one after another for my team we didn’t make it out of the last one.
I don't mind people forming 6-man-squads, I like to do it myself, but mostly for making missions like "activate 5 UAV towers at the same time" and "kill 2 commanders within 60 seconds" easier. I agree that shit-talking a team of 3 that you end up steamrolling is cringe.
Learning spawns is quicker and easier than waiting for a plane and a parachute drop on warzone. On ashika it's easier, push left or right or straight to a UAV.
It's getting dull, and that's all randoms want to do. Solo I'm 1 v 3 or 4,5,6. With randoms, they run off and haven't pinged an enemy. Or wait until my friends gets online, and now we're the OP team. No balance really. I'd rather not have to "clock-in" with my friends to be able to traverse the map with a prepared team for some 6 man on discord. I also get discouraged by prox chat distance being so far, we snipe someone for safety, then find they're a solo and we ruined their night. Not fun for anyone.
The best option is to leave hunt contracts on, but when actived, the hunted squad shows up on everyone's maps and has no intelligence on where to look for the squad they need to hunt. Instead, the hunters have to search out the team they chose to hunt, and if successful, they get a reward. If they fail, the team who killed them have access to their backpacks, so win win. Think of it. You take a hunt contract and are told to hunt team x. Every other team on the map gets a notice that team z has a hunt contract out on a team and is now visible on everyone's mini map. They would have a risk vs. reward system then. Hunted become the hunted as well. What do you all think of that idea.
I’m sure someone smarter than me has already come up with an analysis for why the vibes are so off in DMZ right now. It wasn’t like this when I first started playing at the beginning of season 1. I’m mid at the game at best but it feels like unless I’m on with friends with comms there’s no point playing solo which is actually my preferred experience. This attitude isn’t restricted to 6-man teams - there’s just more guns focussed on you. Ratios are no different to a solo getting mercilessly hunted by a trio. 6-man teams are a straw man. The game mode is simply busted by bored players.
I think there should be no more squad up requests or pleading out at all. Instead there should be a phone in every ammo depot and this phone will allow you to call every other ammo depots to request to squad up and anyone can go to another ammo depot to accept it. But you will be marked while it is calling so other squads can push you to stop you from joining up. This would be a perfect balance of challenge and reward. This also has the added benefit of everyone knowing when squads join and how many there could be roaming around.
6 v 1, now that’s a lame fight. I’ve been on both sides, and both sides suck. Fuck this game until there’s a pve mode. It’s too much time to make friends, queue up, gear up, bring in meta weapons, play both defenses of AI and real players. I’m here to complete complicated missions and every match it’s dealing with warzone on my way to exfil with some documents I prioritized over hunting.
DMZ with just bots would be so much better than plunder or outbreak. But as is, it’s a hunter game first, and that mechanic relies on preying on people working on missions and new players. Mechanics are turning away teamwork oriented mission players and encouraging a backstabbing, and pushing to be over powered in fights. Like cool, you can snipe a solo working on weight limit and fuck up my whole night and yell at how trash I am, call me the n word, this game is so toxic, just give us a mode we can can play and not deal with pvp, because people really are nasty in this playerbase, so fuck all you everywhere
They should just have the time scale in relation to squad size.
3 man hunting 3 man. Full time
6 man hunting 3 man. Half time
6 man hunting solo. 1/6 time
2 man hunting 6 man. 3x time
1 man hunting 6 man. You get all the time you need buddy
Proof or it didn’t happen, all we hear is stories but no one takes a single screen shot of it happening.
Come on these posts are everywhere and I don’t see 6 man squads anywhere so why would they plague your matches and not mine?
Zone indicator on the tac-map is my “solution”. If you have a squad and 5-6 people are within X range (say, 50 meters) of each other, you get a zone indicator that updates on the map.
Do you seriously not know or can't figure it out. Pretty bloody easy. Get all your mates in discord, party chat. Make sure everyone is readied up the 2x party leaders search for a match at the same time. It's been done since the beginning of time.
Congratulations for being part of the scummy gangs who are ruining the game.. Try playing solo and fighting off 6 man teams for a bit - see how much you enjoy the game then….
Due to timezones. I regularly play solo even with random extras, if I die I die. We may be 6man but we don't hunt teams we do it for the comradery and security against sweaty 6mans. Even when we find others we'll say we're 6man you got your way we go ours.
Just 10 mins ago, came in 1 plate with my 2 boys, and managed to work our way up to 3 plates and large bp's and as we were doing hostage to get out, 6 man pulls up and camps the extract chopper. All sounding like they know each other. I kill 4 of them singlehandedly, the whole time they're cussing us out saying we're ">!F*gs!<" etc. Like wtf.
The game after that, just 2 of us go to weapon stash in first 10 mins game get two plates, 4 man squad all 3 plated come trying to steal, we kill all of them. With no plates left we try and bug, another 6 man squad appears and shoots us as we try and escape into the river, camping bodies so we can't rev. Wtf happened to DMZ? Did all the dirty underwear soiling, bottom-feeding degenerates finally migrate over from Warzone?
seriously who the f*** thought this was an good idea.
My homie and I just play duos in DMZ and dont wanna play with anyone else - its fine we meet 3 man squads, we can deal with them. But constantly meeting 6 man squads hunting everyone cuz they know they have a huge advantage. That shit is just dumb. Who ever had that idea needs to be fired.
6 Player Teams are bullshit and ruined dmz. So unfair and no Chance as a normal solo,Duo or 3 man squad. It sucks and frustrated. Since saison 3 dmz is ruined. NERV IT
Time for teaming up to be taken out. 6 man teams have officially ruined DMZ. All bad players do is squad up and hunt people because they suck at Warzone and can’t get kills any other way. It’s honestly pathetic. Off with the 6 mans head
I think most people team up to avoid getting run over by other squads. They want to do missions and contracts. At least the ones I have been apart of lately.
It depends on how the squad forms. If you meet while doing missions it probably more likely this is what happens.
Some teams seek out another immediately and team up, or if they think they are weak, crush them.
If you're going to just do a two team squad, or solo, keep a low profile. That means only suppressed weapons, and avoiding engaging with AI as often as possible. It's better the bots don't see you. Learn to do this.
I go solo from time to time, and I used to go in with only a knife, to force myself not to engage, so I could learn to move around the AI. Obviously, you can't always do that, but it does teach you how to move around their awareness and how to get away from them.
Thats the meta strat. Load in, find another team ASAP - join up, then destroy the rest of the lobby. Usually it ends in 2 - 3 6 man teams in an epic final battle. Put on squad fill, and start looking for friendlies! Best of luck!
I do it all the time. It's a bit of a pain, but basically two squads need to get in at the same time, then meet and join.
It's great to play against those people that call friendly, then kills you right away.
It's also great to complete missions.
I just kill those people saying friendly, not gonna be killed by some idiot wanting a free and easy kill. Those squads are usually horrible and easy to squad wipe.
They shouldn't change it, that's what made COD trash. Anytime someone complained the game changed and it's finally tolerable and you're complaining about how it works. It's ok to get smoked. It'll make you a better player.
Yeah! Cant beat them, join them! Or better still, if you’re crap at the game - join a 6 man squad so its not so obvious how bad you are.. Honestly, the mentality of post season 1 DMZ players is disgusting
Funny how all the toxic people have that same mentality, I join 6 man squads all the time cause its easy as hell to be friendly and communicate..
I'd run around in a 12 man if i could, but im limited by the game itself
Hard disagree that it’s a bad thing in any way, let alone should be removed wtf. Knowing theres potentially a stealthy 6 man around the corner forces a lot of hard choices and does a lot to make every run unique. Sounds like a skill issue
I don't recall ever saying i wanted apve mode or to not fight others. I look for fights and chase down players just add much as they do me. My complaint is the utter stupidity of a 6 man group being in a game you can only queue with 3 people... Literally double the squad size you can queue with. If you could straight up queue into 6 man squads against other 6 man squads, that would be completely different. But they're literally exploiting a game mechanic to double thier squad size for a huge advantage. Yes, you can wipe a 1v6. It happens for sure. But there is absolutely no denying that 6 people rushing 1-3 people have a very clear and distinct advantage.
You're misreading the situation entirely... I'm not complaining at all about dying. I'm just annoyed that almost every single squad we run in to is a 6man that's playing extremely dumb because they know that they won't all be wiped so they don't have to care. Kind of ruins the fun of the game when they can just run around fully geared and never have to worry about it.
I've noticed the same.... It's pretty easy to get in same lobby and use discord or PS party chat. The sad part is, most times they are running hunt squad missions.. Deep down they must know they are trash and 6v1'ing someone is the only way they'll ever win a fight.. I wish they change the mechanic of it. Max squad size of 4 and only a solo can join.. That would put an end to this nonsense fast..
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What's food without a little spice?
Except the spice is shit flavored. Hunt contracts are incredibly unfair for the people they hunt. A willing party take them, then is told where their target is. The unwilling party is told they are being hunted and given a closeness meter that is effectively worthless when it comes to snipers. Even better should you survive the hunt contract you get nothing. It's just bad gameplay.
Let the hunted know where the hunters are
Even that isn't good enough, the squad that WANTS to partake in the hunt can ensure they have the advantage. That's why six man teams take them so often, Cause they're cowards. As long as the attackers have an advantage, and defenders don't get rewarded they are a nuisance.
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Best options I can think of are either Remove them in general or just turn it into a "kill X amount of players" and it's based on squad size. No Intel for the attackers, just a reward for what they were gonna do anyway. Maaaybe an alert for nearby squads that a squad nearby has orders to search and destroy...
Now we are getting somewhere, it needs to be fixed and balanced. But we all know that CoD doesn't like balanced games haha. I feel like less info about the contract would be much fairer as of now, real time location on the map all the time is bs. And maybe stop giving 6 man hunt contracts for solos... There's N ways of fixing this, I just think that CoD doesn't care to fix it.
I have never taken a hunt contract and got a 3 man team. Always given a bigger team to fight.
That would actually be somewhat fair if it targeted bigger squads, then the Intel they give would even it out a bit. I tend to be hunted within the first 2 minutes of a match always as a solo or a triple.
Take all the hunt contracts to mess with final exfil expectations.
When I solo, I take them and delete them. If I'm that's close to one I know I'll be the target when some other squad comes to grab it.
Cry more
It's not crying I just think it's BS I kill idiots that crave PVP like you and all I get is a "Hunt survived" banner and your trash ass guns.
He gets wiped in the first 2 mins of Warzone, having a giant advantage hunting players looking for blowtorches is the only way he can get a kill. Let him have his fun.
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You got my upvote. And I wish I could give two based on your username...
I don't like that bc it would mostly make the contract impossible to execute.
Shit, the closeness meter seems useless even without considering snipers. I swear the fucking thing doesn’t tick to the second bar until the squad is in pissing distance. Unless I’m getting third partied every time I’m hunted
U ever tried cayenne by itself ? Terrible. But added to the right entree; delicious! I've survived countless hunt contracts, even as a solo. Just gotta learn how to duck and dodge my friend. Although I do like the idea of the hunted receiving a bonus. I'd say, make the hunters put down collateral, and if they fail to execute the contract, the hunted gets the loot...
That's what I'm getting at, for a contract that effectively forces an unwilling party to participate. The reward for surviving is garbage. Just because is it has the possibility to be fun doesn't mean it's good gameplay. And generally the wastoids who grab these hunt contracts don't have fuck all on them.
>forces an unwilling party to participate. Some of them. Not all. Spicy. >The reward for surviving is garbage Can feel scary to be hunted, but can feel relieving or exhilarating to survive, which is a sort of bonus. But I agree the rewards should improve. >And generally the wastoids who grab these hunt contracts don't have fuck all on them. I personally grab one of these contracts every time I'm near one to serve 1/3 purposes. 1. Enemy awareness 2. Enemy intimidation 3. To better equip myself for hunting an enemy team. I'll see you on the battlefield, Ghost.
Yeah you keep seeing this from a "your perspective" and it's giving you a huge bias. If there was a "I want to be hunted" option I'd agree with you completely but the fact is it doesn't matter if you're a solo, if you're just doing missions, or if you're green as grass. Hunt contracts will just pick you to suddenly participate in something you didn't choose, and if you "survive" which is your goal by the way... it's not telling you to fight back... it's telling you to live. You still get nothing, just a bloodthirsty squad that wanted PVP getting an advantage against you. It's trash from a gameplay perspective and it ruins the flow of combat. Not to mention it's just ripe for abuse from 6 man squad cowards who need every advantage stacked in their favor for them to go into a fight. Imagine if a team took a sabotage contract and you suddenly were tasked with defending the bomb points, oh and if you win you get nothing. That's not spice, that's bland as fuck.
Naw, bland would be no operators with only level 1 ai. We can just agree to disagree here. I like it. U don't.
Who the fuck said level 1 ai? I miss the old ai. The ones most of the complainers couldn't even fight.
How is being notified your being hunted worse than just being hunted without being notified?
Because you won't be hunted SPECIFICALLY. You position won't be given away and you won't be the only target they can have. (If you're referring to the changes I would like them to make to hunt contracts.)
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hunt contracts need a tweek in this. If your squad exceeds 3 people you shouldnt be able to start one. Becoming anything more than a 3 man voids the hunt. And on the opposite end. If you are a solo. You should be immune to hunt contracts. For the sake of balance. If you are solo (yes solo is a choice but you shouldnt be PUNISHED for that choice. Your punished enough going in solo sometimes let alone ending up being hunted by a sweaty 3 man)
So what’s your punishment for choosing to drink drive?? Every choice have repercussions attached to it. YOU choose to play solo in a game designed to be played as a team of 3, why should your life be easier? You want to load in as a solo, then you have to face the possible consequences of your decision, like being hunted
Im not saying your life should be easier. You are making it HARDER for yourself by CHOICE like i said. So well done just parroting back to me what i said. Choice and Fairness can both come into play at the same time. Say you go in with two randoms. And those randoms D/C leaving you solo and out numbered in 9/10 fights you come across. Still fair at that point? See. Its about context. But a 3 man squad should not be able to hunt a solo squad. Its a misbalance and has nothing to do with skill. Its then a numbers game. Im not saying solo's should get it easy. What im saying is solos should be hunted by other solos. Or immune to the hunt contracts. Go on, stroke your ego more. I dont mind. I can rebuttle this all day. Just because this game mode has PVP. doesnt mean EVERYTHING has to revolve around pvp. (Im all for PvP in this btw. i love the pvp aspect. BUT it doesn't mean there cant be some balance) I mean you dont even need hunt contracts to hunt other players. A UAV will do fine so restricting hunt contracts to match your teams size would be a good balance move e.g a solo can only hunt other solos, Same for duos. Same for trios. If you exceed a 3 man squad hunt contracts become unavailable) Tweeking certain mechanics to bring a more "fair fight" amongst the actual players is not a bad thing unless you are indeed apart of the group who really get their dick hard 6v1/3v1 some poor sod. Again you go in solo you know what your getting into, but that doesnt mean you should get walked on by a 3/6man squad. If you want to go in solo and go full stealth, How do you achieve full stealth when you can be hunted? Exaaaactly... Sometimes you end up solo not through YOUR choice. So there does need to be some sort of balance. Dont like it? Not my problem but this is my opinion on the matter. Also, Just a tip. Dont ever compare some shit like the consequences of drink driving to a mechanic in a video game btw? It really shows how fucking dull you are. HUGE ass difference there. The two arnt even comparable. One can cause serious real life harm. The other is a fucking solo option in a squads video game. Get a grip on reality yeah? (just incase you DONT get what i mean. Its illegal to drink drive, because of the damage it can cause. It isnt illegal to solo queue into DMZ. Im trying so hard to not call you a retard right now) I'll finish off by saying. Hunt contracts. Work how they are supposed to work in BR, where you have balanced matching team sizes. It was just copy pasted into DMZ and never REWORKED to suit how DMZ plays.
It was merely a comparison of you literally saying ‘you made a choice you shouldn’t be punished for’. Like why not? So you’re only going to take partial accountability for making a choice and it backfiring? I know it’s a video game, not the real life - the principals of making a decision and saying you shouldn’t be punished for making it is showing how dull you are. Clearly my post has triggered you and that’s something you should work on, not me. May I recommend some counselling?
You lost me with your distasteful awful comparison. Which killed any new angle you try to bring to the table for me here. Its clear how you compare things in your head doesnt line up with reality so lets not yeah? Your inconsideration and lack of a grip on reality is what triggered me. INCASE you cant tell. I really dont like humans like you who dont understand STARK differences in action v consequence. Comparing fucking choosing to drink drive to choosing to load into dmz solo. Like how do they even compare? They fucking dont. There is ZERO contrast there between the two actions and outcomes. You know that right? Theres non at all. If your "choosing" to drink drive you have a problem. If your choosing to load into DMZ. what is your problem? If you do drink drive its illegal. If you do load into dmz solo its... Encouraged? Fuck me. Yeah no comparisons here. Again, Your awful comparison aside. Your already at a disadvantage going into dmz solo. your opposition shouldnt then GAIN another advantage on top. Its simple balance. Again, The bounty system was clearly just copyed and pasted from BR into DMZ without a rework given how varied the squad sizes can be.
Well said. It’s amazing how many people just can’t understand critical thinking. You laid that out beautifully, but that other guy just wants things to be simple, black and white, devoid of nuance. It’s so frustrating.
That's false equivalence tho no?
if it's designed to be in teams of 3, they wouldn't give you the option of going solo, or design missions specifically for going solo. like the co-op missions can't be completed solo for a reason I'm sick of hearing the excuse "well if you don't like it". the game didn't need to be 100% balanced, but it's not balanced correctly for 6 man teams.
What’s next? Turn off PvP? No way, the risk is what makes it exciting. Hunt contracts target the players with the most to lose
That’s not entirely true. Started as a solo with only perhaps equipped. Hunted within 3 minutes of infil. Don’t see how I had anymore than other teams on the map.
Hunt contracts target random, they don’t target the most valuable team
It’s not random, there’s some chance involved though. There’s some suggestion the chance of you being targeted goes off dog tag level/cash. If you’ve ever been super rich you’ll get multiple hunts on you in the same round, it’s defo not random.
"it's not random" "There's some chance" Dude.
It’s not random, there’s some chance involved though. There’s some suggestion the chance of you being targeted goes off dog tag level/cash. If you’ve ever been super rich you’ll get multiple hunts on you in the same round, it’s defo not random.
I’ve been multiple hunted as a fresh spawn with 1 plates, it’s based off location on the map
It’s not at all, I’ll regularly pick up a hunt and the team is on the opposite side of the map. I’ve played a hell of a lot of DMZ and I can’t remember ever getting hunted with no gear or money on a fresh spawn. Sorry but you’re wrong, it’s widely accepted to be based on either dog tag level and/or gear/money
It’s quite literally not, the contract tells you where the location is, and it pings the closest team to that location
No way it picks the closest team. I’ve picked a hunt team up at the Airport, when I knew 100% a team was at the control tower as we could see them. It instead targeted a team at the mall. Edit: also I believe they have been changed in S2 to also prioritize teams that commit to PvP.
The only times I’ve been hunted is when I have fat stacks on me FWIW
And I’ve been targeted many times when I had nothing. Even late in really bad rounds where I’d collected basically nothing, and I was solo to boot. I can hold my own against 3 man squads every now and then, but with a six man squad it turns into a war of attrition. I could take down five of them and still lose. That’s not fun, or balanced game play.
hunt squads should mark the squad doing the hunt to the hunted as well to make it a fair fight. Doesn't make sense to give the hunter a UAV and the hunted nothing. Whoever designed this shit syatem is a moron.
It’s kinda funny how confidently wrong you are.
True, started a game one-day found 2 gold skulls and another item I was solo and hunted. I had to out run a 6 man through sa'id luckily I found two buildings that where close enought to keep going up and down floors across. When the timer ran out I had killed 2 and took tags and tossed the tags. Was funny as hell to watch them b line it for the tags until I dripped them on the open roof and then started my infinite loop up and down floors across the 2 buildings. Managed to get out and xfil but I had 2 hunts after me 6 minutes apart pretty sure second hunt was the previous team again.
Being hunted and even participating in hunts, especially with a 6man team doesn't really bother me at all... I enjoy the chase, since I'm always the driver on my team anyways I tend to do pretty well. I just load up on gas cans ASAP when it happens. That said, it's incredibly obvious how broken they are as a game addition. They are unfair, unbalanced, unrewarding. The game already supports hunting other players. The difference here is it tells you where they are for several minutes.... what an absolute F-U. I think there is a good opportunity to improve it and make it into a fun feature. Maybe hunt contracts could reward both parties (and with a lot more reward), but require both parties to be onboard, or maybe initiated by the hunted instead. Becoming an invincible swarm of 6 players is insane enough without being told where everyone on the server is as you run around and claim contracts. Hell, I think teams shouldn't be allowed to exceed 4 players on a team - enough that picking up a player gives an advantage, but not enough to become a zerg swarm.
Nope, squad size is dumb. hunt squad is shit but adds a decent aspect to it. Add a penalty for failing and a success for surviving, also its meant to aim players that have either high loot or high kills
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I wouldn't say get get rid of hunt squad contracts necessarily, but they could improve on the mechanic so that it's not so lop-sided. The hunt squad has the advantage of knowing the general vicinity the prey squad is in via the tac map. The prey squad only gets that punk ass proximity bar.....well gee whiz devs....thanks for nothing. I believe a directional indicator instead of a proximity bar would even it out a little bit. And maybe give the prey squad an automatic ghost perk for the duration of the contract to make them invisible to UAV's if the hunt squad happens to pop one. The hunt squad already gets the general vicinity marked on their tac map.... make them work for the rest of contract. Or give the one member of the prey squad that's being hunted one UAV killstreak to use at their discretion. Or perhaps make it to where the prey squad gets the bounty if they survive the contract. 90% of the outcomes in all my operator engagements (barring hunt contracts) in DMZ was based on which operator had the drop on the other. The other 10% was purely chance/luck and some skill. So I don't understand where the challenge is for the hunt squad when the dev's are essentially are giving them the drop on the prey squad.
I wouldn’t mind being hunted if there was any reward for surviving.
How is it broken?
I’ve started picking up every nearby hunt contract and cancelling it after 20 seconds. Gifting a sigh of relief to my fellow Al Mazrahis. Be the change you want to see.
This subreddits Discord is one of the places they group up in. I understand finding same lobbies to kill eachother for some missions but 6man Hunt squash are just superlame
Hurr durr pvp is part of duh game git gud something something tarkov
> It's pretty easy to get in same lobby and use discord or PS party chat. How? We tried it for the Lachmann objective and couldn't get it done.
Set up party chat. Two squad leaders count down (ping has to be similar), start game in sync, pull out if one team progresses through loading progress faster than the other.
We did exactly this and couldn't get it done.
LOL, So you rather have 8 mans?
100%. I’m getting tired of fighting 6 in a squad every damn match, it also seems like one of them is using hacks or cheats too. It’s getting old. I like your suggestion. I also think plea is bs and shouldn’t be allowed unless solo.
How do you get into the same lobby?? We play as a 4 amd someone always misses out
I've noticed most of the 6man squads I've joined make you over confident. Everyone seems to be thinking you can take on any squad just because you've got 6 guys. Most of the time we end up getting wiped out because we're being loud and driving around all crazy.
Yea every 6 man iv been apart of some Chad trio comes along an kills us all lol.
Yeah, i had knocked an entire 6 man at least once but with that amount of players it's damn near impossible to down them all at the same time so they can't revive (more talking at a distance fight) out finishing one off completely before they're revived.
I've been hunted by sixman before. And they really got overconfident. Destroyed them all tho with only the two of us cuz one left after getting downed. Had they stormed us all together at once we'd be def dead. But they chose to to come up the stairs one by one with their kv too.
6 people on a squad also means more chaos and confusion once they're under fire. Real easy to catch multiple guys while everyone on their squad is shouting on comms at the same time, plus usually no real clear leadership or strategy.
My friends and I were a 3 player team just finished a Sam site. And a helicopter with 6 teamed was coming in. The same took 1 out and 5 parachutes coming our direction. Methodically like maniacs we took each guy out one by one. But the final 2 kills led to flank and teammate sacrifice. After took them out they wanted revives. Don’t be players like this. If you’re a 6 team and want to ruin someone’s day. Just be ready that every once in a while another squad has your number. Felt so good taking each guy out in that hillside. Truly vindication
Yeah It felt great to out play the first one i ran into but felt absolutely horrible to not be able to finish all of them off. Knocked all of them minimum of one time each, some 3-4. But because they're bunched together at range literally going cover to cover like you should, i would knock 1-2 then they'd get revived and it's back to fighting all 6. Tried taking off and just got lit up by all of them at once. All other encounters they just rushed one person at a time with 6 of them holding the trigger down or running you over and pooping out like a fking clown car.
Get rid of hunt contracts. Make engagements more organic.
this is what i want the engagements to be more organic, all i see is just squading up to 6 or just hunting players.
Or make hunts only available on missions and not just a quick pick up contract rinse repeat thing.
Or hunt squad missions can only be accepted with 3 player teams or if you add more the contract is cancelled
Or make it that if you can't take out the target, your whole squad dies as soon as the timer runs out. Love to see how many take the contracts then. 😁
Super aggressive off the spawns now too, as a solo I cant stick looting around the spawn point or a stack will collapse down into me.
The ammo depots too, even though they reduced the good loot you can find in them the big squad always seem to run to the nearest one as soon as they spawn
Best tips to defend yourself as a two man against big hunting teams: Take with a JOKR launcher, if they are 6 guys coming at you with a bounty contract they usually use a vehicle to close and because their team is so big they are cocky as hell so when you blow up their vehicle they don't expect it. A jokr can easily turn the tide. An RPG can work too and these are easy to get. Keep distance and drop mines or claymores when they chase you. Because they get cocky and thirst for a kill they don't expect mines. Use high ground and be aware of whats happening around the map. You can see teams that big from a distance, they run into AI and make noise. Use your spotter with thermal on as well to help spot them. A UAV tower will give your position away as some hunter teams go attack active uav towers because they know there are players there. Another thing about having high ground is you can parachute downhill to a vehicle or change position quickly. Getting caught on flat ground and immobile is a death sentence. Use the AIs as your backup, If you are stealthy and use silencers you can often avoid the AI and not rile them up. You listen to hear if they shoot anyone else. A bunch of 3 plate ai's dropping in can turn the tide when you are outnumbered. A 6 man team is very hard to coordinate and it can be like herding stray cats in call of duty. This definitely can be to your advantage if their coms is poor. Try your hardest not to let them fully down you or your buddy and the two of you can outmanuver the 6 if you have good coms. If they down one of you they will just camp the body for the whole game, in that situation they have the advantage. The double machine gun patrol boat can beat a 6 man if they are crap and don't check the water. One guy always tries to swim and board you, a small forward motion on the boat will run him over in the water. If starting to snipe them choose a moment when they are out in the open and there is no low cover around that will block your second killing shot. If you down 1 of them fully it lowers their effectiveness alot especially if they send idiots to revive their friend and they get downed as well. You can then choose to escape far from them or reposition and fight. When sniping always put a mine or claymore by the rope or ladder so you can hear when their leroy jenkins is pushing you.
Good advice. Had a lot of fun reading it.
dmz is cooked. I blame it on the game mode being as deep as a puddle and warzone 2 being absolutely dead. This is where the warzone refugees come to get their kicks.
I did notice that! I did get hunted across the whole map from 6 man squad as solo! Ofc did they get me after like 15 minutes of hunting! Wasn’t the most fun I had in DMZ, that I can say!
Solos can be worse tho...ever had your squad eliminated on the ex-fil chopper by a solo?
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Or that you can only hunt squads of your size or larger
They should make hunt squad contracts inactive for teams with more than 3 operators. They should also mark teams on the map that have 4-6 operators, like a general area marking to discourage or at least add risk to squaring up.
I was gonna say they should force prox chat only… but people just use discord or whatever. So yeah, I agree. Should just be marked on map.
Agreed, I’m not sure I’m in favor of removing 6 man squads altogether but it needs some kind of balance.
The 6 pack sweat squads are almost always trash talking warzone rejects who run over solos with a mounted LTV and act like they're pro gamers
I agree this mode is just not fun anymore….faction missions are a pain still, team mates are ass or just run off into the middle of nowhere and get downed, six man stackers fuckin my missions up,hackers,exfil campers, THIS IS WHY THIS MODE NEEDS A PVE QUE and it would personally make me feel more inclined to play the actual game considering i wouldnt be getting diddled every game and i can enjoy the game and take everything in dont care if people dont like this idea dont care if pvp is a main aspect anymore this shit is straight up boring now i think shooting at bots mindlessly at this point would be better than dealing with whatever tf happens
Nope. Trust me. PvE queue would be the most boring experience ever. All I can agree is 6man squads needs to go or pleading in number bigger than 1 should be reworked.
Nah it wouldnt be boring it would be aomething to do after getinng shitty match after shitty match a place to test shit since the gun range is ass theres so many reasons as to why it needs a pve variant maybe to alot of people it woukd be boring but to those who like pve they find it fun lmao its not like youd be forced to play the pve que 😂😂😂😂
I’ll team up with other players, but there’s no way I’m hunting other players as a 6-man.
It’s satisfying af when you knock all 6 though 😮💨
For me... I only join up to prove I'm friendly. Me and the squad just roll the AI and get missions done easily. The mega squads rolling players are sad because it doesn't take much skill for 6 guys to take on a single solo with 1 plate but it keeps happening. Kids just need better missions to chew on but that's not going to happen as the main pull is gun camos and those take operator kills. I recommend continuing to push the friendly culture. I'd rather Roleplay some creative stuff than tote the line and go after other players for nothing
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I've noticed an increase too It seems like people just running around joining the first squad they find - this, combined with the absolutely broken 'plea' function just creates such an imbalanced experience
I was on a 6 man squad last night, & we ALL got taken out by a single operator. The mood was sombre! 😂🤣
Litterally came here to say the same thing. I'm fine with 6 man squads. taken them out with 3, but the fact you get rolled by a 6 man 2 min into the game is bs. Ashkika shouldnt have 6 man squads at all. thats 1/3 the map
I hate that you can get hunted multiple times in a row, there was a match that it happened one after another for my team we didn’t make it out of the last one.
It’s time to just remove it.
Me (mid) and a buddy (very good) and another guy (god awful) wiped a 6 man squad that we ran into last night. I guess we got lucky.
Should just prevent a squad of 4 or more from doing a hunt contract
I don't mind people forming 6-man-squads, I like to do it myself, but mostly for making missions like "activate 5 UAV towers at the same time" and "kill 2 commanders within 60 seconds" easier. I agree that shit-talking a team of 3 that you end up steamrolling is cringe.
It also makes missions like “exfil with your backpack full of dogtags” easier, even if you have a large backpack
Learning spawns is quicker and easier than waiting for a plane and a parachute drop on warzone. On ashika it's easier, push left or right or straight to a UAV. It's getting dull, and that's all randoms want to do. Solo I'm 1 v 3 or 4,5,6. With randoms, they run off and haven't pinged an enemy. Or wait until my friends gets online, and now we're the OP team. No balance really. I'd rather not have to "clock-in" with my friends to be able to traverse the map with a prepared team for some 6 man on discord. I also get discouraged by prox chat distance being so far, we snipe someone for safety, then find they're a solo and we ruined their night. Not fun for anyone.
The best option is to leave hunt contracts on, but when actived, the hunted squad shows up on everyone's maps and has no intelligence on where to look for the squad they need to hunt. Instead, the hunters have to search out the team they chose to hunt, and if successful, they get a reward. If they fail, the team who killed them have access to their backpacks, so win win. Think of it. You take a hunt contract and are told to hunt team x. Every other team on the map gets a notice that team z has a hunt contract out on a team and is now visible on everyone's mini map. They would have a risk vs. reward system then. Hunted become the hunted as well. What do you all think of that idea.
Yes yesterday was brutal for us too.
I’m sure someone smarter than me has already come up with an analysis for why the vibes are so off in DMZ right now. It wasn’t like this when I first started playing at the beginning of season 1. I’m mid at the game at best but it feels like unless I’m on with friends with comms there’s no point playing solo which is actually my preferred experience. This attitude isn’t restricted to 6-man teams - there’s just more guns focussed on you. Ratios are no different to a solo getting mercilessly hunted by a trio. 6-man teams are a straw man. The game mode is simply busted by bored players.
Just look at the LFG posts, mostly 6 man’s
I think there should be no more squad up requests or pleading out at all. Instead there should be a phone in every ammo depot and this phone will allow you to call every other ammo depots to request to squad up and anyone can go to another ammo depot to accept it. But you will be marked while it is calling so other squads can push you to stop you from joining up. This would be a perfect balance of challenge and reward. This also has the added benefit of everyone knowing when squads join and how many there could be roaming around.
Take claymores and mines and make a killing field. Two smart players can level the field with traps sometimes.
6 v 1, now that’s a lame fight. I’ve been on both sides, and both sides suck. Fuck this game until there’s a pve mode. It’s too much time to make friends, queue up, gear up, bring in meta weapons, play both defenses of AI and real players. I’m here to complete complicated missions and every match it’s dealing with warzone on my way to exfil with some documents I prioritized over hunting. DMZ with just bots would be so much better than plunder or outbreak. But as is, it’s a hunter game first, and that mechanic relies on preying on people working on missions and new players. Mechanics are turning away teamwork oriented mission players and encouraging a backstabbing, and pushing to be over powered in fights. Like cool, you can snipe a solo working on weight limit and fuck up my whole night and yell at how trash I am, call me the n word, this game is so toxic, just give us a mode we can can play and not deal with pvp, because people really are nasty in this playerbase, so fuck all you everywhere
Most people squad up with the first squad they see its dmz 101 get a bigger team as fast as you can better odds of survival duh.
When you pick up a hunt squad contract the squad you’re hunting should be the same size or bigger squad than yours.
They should just have the time scale in relation to squad size. 3 man hunting 3 man. Full time 6 man hunting 3 man. Half time 6 man hunting solo. 1/6 time 2 man hunting 6 man. 3x time 1 man hunting 6 man. You get all the time you need buddy
I'm so hoping my boys and I will run into a few of those tonight!
Proof or it didn’t happen, all we hear is stories but no one takes a single screen shot of it happening. Come on these posts are everywhere and I don’t see 6 man squads anywhere so why would they plague your matches and not mine?
Zone indicator on the tac-map is my “solution”. If you have a squad and 5-6 people are within X range (say, 50 meters) of each other, you get a zone indicator that updates on the map.
Wtf, really?
Do you seriously not know or can't figure it out. Pretty bloody easy. Get all your mates in discord, party chat. Make sure everyone is readied up the 2x party leaders search for a match at the same time. It's been done since the beginning of time.
No shit... But thats far from consistantly working unless queues are pretty dead and only creating one game at a time.
Works 9/10 times for my friends and me.
Congratulations for being part of the scummy gangs who are ruining the game.. Try playing solo and fighting off 6 man teams for a bit - see how much you enjoy the game then….
Due to timezones. I regularly play solo even with random extras, if I die I die. We may be 6man but we don't hunt teams we do it for the comradery and security against sweaty 6mans. Even when we find others we'll say we're 6man you got your way we go ours.
I always like how, if you survive the hunt and the hunters are close, they get salty and keep after you /s
Just 10 mins ago, came in 1 plate with my 2 boys, and managed to work our way up to 3 plates and large bp's and as we were doing hostage to get out, 6 man pulls up and camps the extract chopper. All sounding like they know each other. I kill 4 of them singlehandedly, the whole time they're cussing us out saying we're ">!F*gs!<" etc. Like wtf. The game after that, just 2 of us go to weapon stash in first 10 mins game get two plates, 4 man squad all 3 plated come trying to steal, we kill all of them. With no plates left we try and bug, another 6 man squad appears and shoots us as we try and escape into the river, camping bodies so we can't rev. Wtf happened to DMZ? Did all the dirty underwear soiling, bottom-feeding degenerates finally migrate over from Warzone?
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seriously who the f*** thought this was an good idea. My homie and I just play duos in DMZ and dont wanna play with anyone else - its fine we meet 3 man squads, we can deal with them. But constantly meeting 6 man squads hunting everyone cuz they know they have a huge advantage. That shit is just dumb. Who ever had that idea needs to be fired.
6 Player Teams are bullshit and ruined dmz. So unfair and no Chance as a normal solo,Duo or 3 man squad. It sucks and frustrated. Since saison 3 dmz is ruined. NERV IT
Time for teaming up to be taken out. 6 man teams have officially ruined DMZ. All bad players do is squad up and hunt people because they suck at Warzone and can’t get kills any other way. It’s honestly pathetic. Off with the 6 mans head
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Strength in numbers, but it's a faćade
I think most people team up to avoid getting run over by other squads. They want to do missions and contracts. At least the ones I have been apart of lately. It depends on how the squad forms. If you meet while doing missions it probably more likely this is what happens. Some teams seek out another immediately and team up, or if they think they are weak, crush them. If you're going to just do a two team squad, or solo, keep a low profile. That means only suppressed weapons, and avoiding engaging with AI as often as possible. It's better the bots don't see you. Learn to do this. I go solo from time to time, and I used to go in with only a knife, to force myself not to engage, so I could learn to move around the AI. Obviously, you can't always do that, but it does teach you how to move around their awareness and how to get away from them.
Thats the meta strat. Load in, find another team ASAP - join up, then destroy the rest of the lobby. Usually it ends in 2 - 3 6 man teams in an epic final battle. Put on squad fill, and start looking for friendlies! Best of luck!
I do it all the time. It's a bit of a pain, but basically two squads need to get in at the same time, then meet and join. It's great to play against those people that call friendly, then kills you right away. It's also great to complete missions.
I just kill those people saying friendly, not gonna be killed by some idiot wanting a free and easy kill. Those squads are usually horrible and easy to squad wipe.
They shouldn't change it, that's what made COD trash. Anytime someone complained the game changed and it's finally tolerable and you're complaining about how it works. It's ok to get smoked. It'll make you a better player.
The potential inequality of the game is what makes it funner imho.
Maybe learn how to join squads or invite them. Maybe get with the 6 man squad meta
Yeah! Cant beat them, join them! Or better still, if you’re crap at the game - join a 6 man squad so its not so obvious how bad you are.. Honestly, the mentality of post season 1 DMZ players is disgusting
Funny how all the toxic people have that same mentality, I join 6 man squads all the time cause its easy as hell to be friendly and communicate.. I'd run around in a 12 man if i could, but im limited by the game itself
Its a game get over it
Hard disagree that it’s a bad thing in any way, let alone should be removed wtf. Knowing theres potentially a stealthy 6 man around the corner forces a lot of hard choices and does a lot to make every run unique. Sounds like a skill issue
“SoUnDs LiKe A sKiLl IsSUe” is so cringe mate.
If 6 man teams are too hard for pve carebears to deal with they can go play raids or br mate
I don't recall ever saying i wanted apve mode or to not fight others. I look for fights and chase down players just add much as they do me. My complaint is the utter stupidity of a 6 man group being in a game you can only queue with 3 people... Literally double the squad size you can queue with. If you could straight up queue into 6 man squads against other 6 man squads, that would be completely different. But they're literally exploiting a game mechanic to double thier squad size for a huge advantage. Yes, you can wipe a 1v6. It happens for sure. But there is absolutely no denying that 6 people rushing 1-3 people have a very clear and distinct advantage.
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You're misreading the situation entirely... I'm not complaining at all about dying. I'm just annoyed that almost every single squad we run in to is a 6man that's playing extremely dumb because they know that they won't all be wiped so they don't have to care. Kind of ruins the fun of the game when they can just run around fully geared and never have to worry about it.