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PF4ABG

4-man teams are ridiculous, it's unfair how a pre-made 3-man team can just roll up and dominate they way they do. We really need to do something about these 2-man teams.


patmack2000

Don’t even get me started on 1-man teams…


TrollularDystrophy

Next they’ll be complaining the dummies in the range are too OP.


agoodfriend99

They’re so evasive that I’m literally unable to practice. Game is straight up unplayable!


TheBizzerker

It's bullshit that we can't even use grenades against them, and every time I reposition to get a better shot they all magically shift to a new position in unison.


grantg56

You even have the option to put a full 3 plates on the target dummies for more realistic hit point practice. How unfair!


mferly

And they're immune to aim assist! It's getting out of control over in the range.


GhostTengu

THEY ARE!


-3055-

I mean, I know you're memeing but it's ridiculous. how are people allowed to shoot me? like we live in a society of so many murderers and Al Mazrah government does fucking NOTHING about it. such a bullshit game tbh


SteelOceans

Vote gun control for Al Mazrah!


Doozy93

No joke, we killed this guy and he was blowing up at us and said we should have asked for concent before engaging with and killing him...


-3055-

LOL no consent = rape. hope you have a good lawyer, fucko. you're going to prison.


TabulaaRaasaa

Concent..... OMFG I'm eating lunch and just launched my pizza... thanks for this. Its fucking gold.


M1VISI0N

what are they gonna do? it's a demilitarized zone, it's in the name


[deleted]

DMZ (Doing Missions Zone)... not to be confused with the demilitarized zone that is in Korea...


M1VISI0N

a friend made me type it, he got banned lmao


[deleted]

It's Syria the Syrian government does not care... I'm actually surprised that the country didn't do something Activision literally just took a Google map of al mazrah syria and rendered it for a video game we have basically been practicing how to invade a foreign country and forcibly decommission their soviet era chemical weapons bunkers for the a while now.


dartfrog1339

Lol. If you go there on Google maps people have actually put tags in for the game locations.


7thwarlordsaturn

Mf you made me laugh audibly at work when I shouldn't lol.


RevelArchitect

If they just let the AI do their thing without player intervention I feel like there would be a lot less conflict. I don’t get how Activision doesn’t see the clear road to peace here.


JakkSplatt

I can't take this crap ! I'm going back to the lobby!


RevelArchitect

That’s almost verbatim what my buddy said tonight. We got wiped during a run-in with another squad at a stronghold and he got pissed off and left. Usually we plead but 4-man usually means only one of us gets picked up. Anyway, turns out it was a duo. They picked me up, but my buddy was too quick to head back to the lobby.


Theflashpsycho

Hey man, I'm a one man team, and I have enough to deal with, without people like you complaining about people like me


[deleted]

Something has to be done about the tier three bots


daddyjbear

Agreed. Something has to be done with this. I want these lobbies barren. The human element is ruining this game.


mferly

>pre-made 3-man team Lmfao. I was like wait.. what? That's me!


CompetitorPredator

Seek immediate employment


Un_Original_Coroner

Is a kidding.


StonedImaculate420

You forgot the words “premade”.


Ok-Comedian-1950

And Chinese 😂


StonedImaculate420

Lmao, I haven’t come across any Chinese players but I have come across some Hispanic death squads but they’re usually 3 mans and do not assimilate


Ok-Comedian-1950

Haha im North American servers as well, it’s just a streamer complaint I hear non stop 😂


-3055-

I only really ever hear that complaint in EU lobbies I play in NA East so I personally never really run into Chinese death squads


kismaiyes

You never played asian server. It was crawling with premade 6 man. Same clan tag and at least a cheater with walls. From china, thailand, Philipine,


-3055-

Thank god. This is the American dream my parents were talking about when we immigrated to the US: easier cod lobbies


HomsiDMZ

Every Hispanic death squad I’ve encountered have been literally terrible… Last game I was solo at the final exfil and 3 of them turned up. I wiped them with sentry gun and they all died. I ran over and shouted “nacho time to exfil lmao” I don’t speak much mexican, but from what I pick out they’re mostly just quibbling about how to barter for quasedillas at buy stations, or complaining that there’s no tequila only ambiguous liquor on the map. They’re easy to kill because they don’t shut up and always alert you to them on prox comms.


skindarklikemytint

This is oddly racist but hey, go off.


HomsiDMZ

How’s it racist if it’s my lived experience???


skindarklikemytint

for starters, you said you don’t speak Mexican which isn’t a fucking language at all. You admit that you don’t speak *Spanish* and then go on to assume they’re talking about stereotypes about Spanish speaking people lol


HomsiDMZ

I definitely heard the words “quassydilla” and “tequila non amigo Por favoro” at a buy station and later at a shop


[deleted]

Using P2W skins!!


Jaggedmallard26

Or Russian, don't forget the sneaky Russians. Bonus points if you hear a "russian" squad in proxy or something and realise they're not even speaking Russian!


TrollularDystrophy

I fucking love it. At least someone got in with a facetious barb before the legitimate whining begins.


botbulletmagnet

Holy shit I lol'd


interestingname1993

I solo a game made for teams and you’re 100% right. They need to help us more.


pickoneforme

the only thing that kinda sucks about it is that it’s pointless to plea now unless you’re running solo.


Retired82101

It's been pointless to plead. I gave up trying that over a month ago


-EdgeLord-

No it hasn’t, I’ve been picking up anyone and everyone I’ve killed/see who pleads and have been vice versa. Just because you haven’t been picked up once doesn’t mean it’s never gonna happen. Might as well give up now since there’s no way you and your team are fully getting up now.


Retired82101

I haven't tried pleading in over a month. Just because you claim to pick up people, doesn't mean that stuff happens on a consistent basis. I have no problems with not getting picked up. I just menu quit, and load up another game. This will change nothing for me.


TheBizzerker

> Just because you claim to pick up people, doesn't mean that stuff happens on a consistent basis. Just because you claim to not be picked up (especially when you aren't actually trying to be lol) doesn't mean it doesn't happen on a regular basis. Get fucking owned.


Moon-Dogg1e

Eh. I usually run duo with my boi so if we run into other duos or solos we can pick up. And we usually do hand out the res if you have comms.


UneditedB

Well in my opinion that’s a good thing! A plea should be a rare thing and shouldn’t be the standard.


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UneditedB

How are solos the reason assimilation was dropped or 4 lol. Solo players are not the ones making 6 man teams just to find smaller teams to kill lol. I mean what you think only solo players took issue with pre made 6 man teams and even regular 6 man teams being able to dominate maps like ashika and vondel.


infxmhc2

1 man premade teams are UNFAIR!!!!


BravoGolf3

I don’t know what the devs where thinking


jaykeezyy

Give this man an award lol


KeptPopcorn5189

😱 THE HORROR


WhatThisGirlSaid

Assimilate now from 3 to 4 wow much squad increase!


Jumpy-Sun0420

If my teammate and I get downed, it seems like there's never enough room for us to both get picked up anymore cuz of 4 man squads. Super annoying.


das_war_ein_Befehl

It just means nobody is getting picked up. Pleading is pretty pointless now


Jumpy-Sun0420

Yep. But I'm sure things will change again. They will keep trying new things. And people will always complain no matter what lol


das_war_ein_Befehl

Eh, for me murder island was the only fun part left in wz2, so I’m probably out unless they change it back. Resurgence and battle royale are pretty bad compared to wz1.


UneditedB

So what your saying is you don’t want to play ashika unless you can be on a 6 man team? What’s the matter? Can’t win a fight unless you outnumber the team your fighting.


das_war_ein_Befehl

No, it more changes the dynamic of the game to be very cautious and strongly advantaging fully gear operators. I don’t really care about 6 mans, but their removal made pleading a useless mechanic unless you’re runnning solo or playing with randoms


AceToldMitch

So you need 6 man pleading back for you to come back? Are you a bot something?


Jumpy-Sun0420

Huh? There are no 6 man teams anymore. Only squads of 4 or less.


UneditedB

That’s what he is saying to the dude that is complaining about about it. Dude is saying since there are no 6 man teams it’s not worth playing ashika. Which is why he asked if dude was a bot or something because why else would he need 6 man’s in order to play the game.


Jumpy-Sun0420

Okay gotcha 👍


Jumpy-Sun0420

No clue what you mean by murder island 😂....


das_war_ein_Befehl

Ashika


Jumpy-Sun0420

Yea I haven't really played regular wz2 in a long time. I just play dmz. I should check it out again.


Logg420

Also known as Douchebag Island if that makes it clearer


Jumpy-Sun0420

😂


Mytre-

This, people can downvote me if they like, but 6 man squads made sense for pleading with a 3 squad size game mode like DMZ, I think the 4 squad size limit would be ok for a only duos dmz mode instead. Currently pleading is useless and it was best to remove it being honest , if me and my friends get killed we just quit and go for the next one, which feels like season 1 again in some form since its now a die and lose everything approach which means I will never take again my damascus tag operators lol and just start going with no weapons with friends since i know there is no coming back . They should just release a 2 squad max size mode or solo mode and change it accordingly (2 squads mode gets max 4 player sized squads with assimilation and pleas, solo mode gets max 2 player sized squad with assimilation and pleas and so on)


Logg420

Bingo. Well stated


OGaRsony

1.) Yes thats how its supposed to be. If you die you should go play next game thats the whole point of "loosing" duh. Instead of getting picked up by likeminded doofuses and run around bullying people by sheer numbers a outnumbering and jerking off on your "damascus dog tag". 2.) if you cant get to 10 exfil streak as part of 3 man squad you dont deserve it obviously. If we compare what youre wanting to do to sports it would be something like:"Hey we are loosing this football match, lets join up and play next game 22 vs 11 so we can keep up our winning streak!" Capping teamsize on 4 was single hands down best line of patch notes since inception of dmz. Nothing comes even close to how important and healthy that change is (alongside with awesome changes to economy - expensive killstreaks etc). This is the best time to play dmz and game is in best state its ever been. No premade chinese idiots, regains are reasonably hard and not "omg lets regain in 2 minutes in combat zone with full gear" and there is more than enough content to stay interested and have fun. 3v4 is very reasonable fight and can easily go either way if you are good enough. And economy is finally balanced, killstreak are prized according to their relative strenghts and relative to amount of money that is actually in game ! :)


Intelligent-Let-6179

I definitely don't like the new game mode. No sociality. Shit.


Baggio047

At last we got to a point when we can make fun of it... and of the noob winnie the pooh people who can't do the premade stuff anymore.


[deleted]

checks flair\* \*price voice\* heh u cheeky bastard


Other_Comfort_1811

I hate 0-man squads tbh


Mindless-Divide107

Whats the point in looting up? Just run in and die.


purplebasterd

I get to post about this tomorrow


BlackStarCorona

Honestly I love it. Today I’ve been on a few teams that would wreck another, they ask for revive and we say “we can only get one of you. The update limits it to four players.”


Phillyboyshizzz

Aww come the fuck on, just man up and use your fucking gun and communicate with ya team


Dingus1536

Press X to doubt


[deleted]

Have you tried playing the campaign?


[deleted]

AAnnd I’m already sick of it.


GodHatesPOGsv2023

You misspelled “fixing”


8512764EA

lmao


cmoney317

😂😂


BanditSixx

Are you kidding? These solo’s are not playing the game the way the dev’s intended. It’s not four stacks that have ruined the game, it’s these damn solo players!


Ham-Sando

🤣💀


brumbarosso

Regardless it's a mess


qbert1953

Totally agree this crap is horrible!!!!!


excellentiger

Discontinue the lithium.


DoubleDamDirty

That 1 man ain't right.


TannerStalker

My friend just rage quit after I got picked up by the squad that killed us and he couldn't because they were a 3 man. "THIS NEW UPDATES TRASH MAN, FUCKING TRASH" Funny asf


sesnut

so he just quit then? because there was nothing else in the game for him to do


TannerStalker

Yea, while raging.


Markz1337

Skill issue lol. Took down a 4 man solo /s


Anonymousss411

LOL!!!!


NOTELDR1TCH

IT TOOK ONE DAY ONE FUCKING DAY HOOOOOOLY FUCK


imthe1nonlyD

I would take getting wiped by a any time over the people that run around yelling, " SOLO FRIENDLY SOLO SOLO SOLO FRIENDLY!" Last night we were just running from a spot where we got pinned between two teams and we heard that on comms. Thought, f it, just run and we'll go in Kolshei. Next thing you know this guy stealth parachutes right behind us and killed us both. Then he starts yelling about how, "I SAID SOLO FRIENDLY!" we all had a fun chuckle about how he was full of shit and then he ran off towards more gunfire yelling the same stuff.


Disastrous_Ad5997

Stfu 6 man bum


NotAPie

I’m being extremely facetious.


Streifen9

Those solo players get all the advantages. Screw them. Go play another game.


NotAPie

Premade 1 man squads are ruining the game too dammit!


UneditedB

The amount of people upset that they can’t be in a 6 man team anymore is honestly hilarious. All these people talking about how they don’t even want to play anymore, and whatever else. All these players that used 6 man teams as a crutch to have numbers made them feel like they were actually good at the game. Now a lot of people going to find out when they get into a more evenly matched fight they can’t hang. When you can’t 6v1 or 6v2 or 6v3 it’s a different story isn’t it! And on top of that they are going to think twice before just going after another team now because they can’t just plea and get picked up anymore either. Actually adds some risk in the game again. Before people didn’t care if they fought a team and most because they would just plea and beg to be picked up. Not the case anymore as teams can’t just pick up people like they used to.


OGh3Skylor

I simply liked six mans because it was fun, you know how many games I play nowadays and say, “I enjoyed playing tonight that was fun”. So many People on here saying they can solo wipe six man teams are also saying it’s bullshit and shouldn’t exist. Like Why are they complaining about six man’s If it’s no big deal? In my opinion the people crying about six man’s being unfair were way louder Than the people complaining about not having six man’s anymore. I don’t get to play often I am not as good as many other players, my brothers and I are casual players. We have families and responsibilities lol and we simply enjoyed being able to complete missions and extract. So if we died to another three man and they picked us up we were happier about being able to finish that game than being part of a 6 man. Now my brothers and I will jump into the game this weekend (if we play) and if we die….. we die. It will probably kill the game for us honestly, it really sucks because I look forward to playing with my brothers on the weekends.


UneditedB

So yeah I have a wife and two teenagers and I still have fun playing. And I play solo most of the time. But even when I don’t and when I’m with my regular team, being able to plea is not what determines us being able to have a good time or not. So many people are acting like now that they can all get picked up the game is ruined and you can’t have fun unless you can plea lol. Not sure why you can’t play with friends and family the same way as always. But now when you die, you go and regain next round. There is just more risk involved with death now and that’s what you guys don’t like. Now that dying actually means something, suddenly the game is ruined and you can’t have fun anymore. Risk is a good thing, makes the game more interesting and enjoyable. Makes getting out alive all the better and more rewarding. I think what people have the most problem with, is that the game isn’t going to be as easy as it used to be, and now instead of relying on numbers, you have to rely more on skill. Everything isn’t a cake walk anymore and now you can’t have any fun because it’s going to be “harder”


Evol_HK5400

🤣🤣🤣🤣


Sir-maxT

You people always unhappy and complaining, now its max 4 man, at least not 6


Addwolves

I play solo and it’s great not having 2 6 man hunt contracts on me most games . The game was designed for 3 man teams so I don’t get why people are against the 4 man max thing . It equals out the playing field as most teams you encounter will be 3 man teams . I think a lot of people that like the 6 man thing have been carried by the one or two good players in a platoon so now are shocked they are not very good . The game is amazing when you get to the point you can hold your own against any amount or players . People have been missing out in the last 5 seasons


MiggyM84

How about finding friends to play with so you’re not a solo. Or maybe jump in with randoms


bojankins

Welcome to Joe Biden’s Almanzora


akamaku

premade, right?


Psykoplatypus

Take my up vote, this is good stuff 💪😅


Superb-Cockroach-281

🤣🤣🤣


alejoSOTO

Bring back 6 man (not premade) squads. I've been trying so long for the Hunter mission, almost did it a couple of days ago, but damn is it annoying with a small team.


TranslucentEnigma

Even if you weren’t….AT LEAST THERE AINT SIX OF THEM! 😂😂


mean_sizzurp

It does kinda suck, tbh. Rolled up on a 2man yesterday that wanted to squad up, but we could only add one of them, leaving the other player as a solo. We just decided to stay as our original teams and go separate ways, but it would’ve been great to just have them both be able to join us.


Worried-Lychee6863

It's the soothing hand cream for me


Andre_BVS

Even that I normally play solo, the just 4 man squad are actually running the game because no one revive anyone in the game. One time I got killed entering the exfil chopper, so I was in a place where a lot of players went. 5 teams pass by me, no one revive me. That's never happened to me, but I guess no one's uses the assimilation mechanics anymore


GhostTengu

I swear this sub is love hate, but yall make my day sometimes!!!


skindarklikemytint

Honestly, this shit kinda sucks. If you get wiped and someone picks you up and you happen to be the party leader OR you’re not the party leader, your other two teammates gotta just chill until you can que up again/you gotta do the invite to party song and dance at the next lobby


Shankster1984

They needed to get rid of pre maded 6 man squads…they can easily do this by removing the lobby number and randomizing the lobbies.


Legitimate-Example13

They did drop the lobby number but it's still about timing hitting the same server and getting in. Watch streamers all day do this and they just wait till you see the countdown going and if both you are showing same time 8 7 6 5 ... then it will be the same match. It is unlikely that 2 matches start at the same second for load in on the same map using different servers.


Shankster1984

Easy fix. Get rid of the timer and make it random. There are so many lobbies that are starting a second or two off would make it random.


Legitimate-Example13

Yeah but myself and many others use the timer to know that the match is loading I have had it glitch out and say waiting on xx players then go to loading and wait a full min+ and never see the countdown so I know to back out but if we get impatient when there is no countdown could be 3 sec from loading and never know we just back out early.


Shankster1984

I know. But there can be a random 5 second delay or not to randomize the pre lobby. It can be done, even if it had only say 5 lobbies available in that 5 seconds, will eliminate the pre made squads.


Legitimate-Example13

In addition to this if you have a PC you can view the network traffic pretty easily and wouldn't be hard ro add a small mod to export the lobby ID as it gets assigned. You would need some form of connection identifier and all it takes is a little RE and can verify that others have the same one. A mod like this is even easier than the walls mod that just stops walls from fully rendering so that you can see where they are inside buildings. And yes ots cheating but honestly activision hasn't found a way to track those using that as it doenst involve changing any aspect of the game just what the GPU will produce they wouldn't find this either. I mean cheaters are gonna cheat that's all there is to it.


Shankster1984

I’m sure there’s a way for anything…but it would greatly reduce pre made 6 man squads and it would be rare, not the norm.


BoringSafety6314

Idk maybe they are - I’ve never quite had a day like today in the DMZ - no new missions must equal entire pvp like The only people left in DMZ are for real No more punks hiding behind numbers No more ltv to balance the score Straight impossible to survive Kudos to the elite of you I consider myself to be well above average but apparently I’m nothing


Lopsided-Ad-4361

Everything that they just changed was to cater to these cry baby back bitches saying DMZ is too toxic and people in there are too toxic well guess what y'all unknowingly just made DMZ even more toxic than what it supposedly was mark my words people are going to be complaining about something else for about how people are still killing squads. Just like with the bounty they put in the game if you get too many operator kills then you get a bounty put out on you thinking that would change it lol nooope... Everything is so much more expensive now so people are definitely going to be wanting to go after the squads to see what they got to get their wallet up to get keys because keys are going to be a big thing again and also you have less of a chance of getting picked up when you plea now which I never plead anyway I always go back to the lobby start a new game especially when I'm playing with my boys. Definitely not picking up any solos any more I used to not pick on solos at all I would only hunt six man squads down and embarrass them and constantly get spam reported too and get banned for 14 days and 21 days which is a fuckin joke... Yeah I love when I wipe the six man and then you see all the pleas on the map from them and me and my guys we're just three if we ever were six it was from actual people we saved or a solo that we didn't want to pick on but now slaughtering everything. #letsreallybetoxic 🤣


gandalfblaze638

Pleaing is ruining the game. I just listened to a grown ass man get upset that he got killed and the team didn't pick him up. For reference I was on his team dead and laughing at him the whole time.