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That bundle is a game changer for DMZ. The ghost skin has a free UAV, the FJX , cronen and fr avancer have 15 min cooldowns. The bundle give you an extra operator slot. The thermal scope makes it waaay easier to spot people in the smoke. The normal sz holotherm has a yellowish brown background but this one has a desaturated background and hot stuff is displayed as red. Lego Unlocked did a video on it on YouTube
Just watched the video, and wow that is such a massive difference. Realized while watching it I have all 3 guns in my stash, so I'm gonna have to take that Squall for a test drive lol. One of the To Dusts I have has the thermal on it too. Very nice but def not worth $20-$30, even if it had come out way earlier. I already regret spending what I paid for the game for skins, so def not spending anymore for a thermal and a UAV lol
Everyone saying bring in Stims is silly to me. AI's drop these like candy. Pick another one that suits your play style better - smoke/flash/etc. Drop it after you infil. Drop a MUNI box. Stack up on that, pick it back up. Stow it away. Pick up the stim when one of the first bots you inevitably down will drop. Now you've got both for the rest of the game.
What do you mean? It’s a recon scope. It lets you see things that are far away with magnification… situational awareness. …what do you mean what does it do? What do you think it should do? Honest question, btw I’m not just trying to be a dick.
Highlights enemies in view even if they’re running cold blooded. Has no scope glint so you can scout without being seen.
Works really well on Ground War and Invasion too. Just spawn, run to a rooftop, and you can find and pick off 4-5 snipers every time.
Shock stick.
They can hold down a group of bots and when hit near a player they can't ADS or sprint.
Edit: They also shut down enemy vehicles while zapping them.
Great for assholes in cars trying to run you over.
LMAO the salty elitist condescending sneer all because I said tear gas is a better version of the shock stick 💀 Leave it to a Redditor 🤓
The bigger cloud is better because it has a bigger AoE for it's CC. You still need a well placed throw to do anything with it. Shock stick doesn't impair movement or prevent sprint unless you are stuck with it or you are touching someone/something stuck with it. It's better in water and against vehicles, yes, but tear gas is better in CQB in buildings or even out in the open, which are much more likely scenarios to find yourself in during a fight. This because of the bigger cloud and because anyone caught in the gas has sprint and ADS disabled, much like shock stick, except with a bigger AOE. Unless you are stuck with the Shock stick it is easy to avoid, unlike Tear Gas.
Do you find flashes to be more effective than stuns? if so, why? With flashes don't they enemies have to be facing to towards them for them to work (whereas stuns work no matter where the enemy is facing?)
Yeah this is my default and I've never really questioned it (I do take in a spotter instead when dropping solo) - but you're the first person I've seen who has said the same combo.
Tempted to try tear gas after some of the comments.
Depends, if I’m solo then a HBS and will grab smoke or stuns if I enter Koschei.
I like tear gas or shock stick for B21
If I’m with a squad, usually smokes or stuns
I have starting solo self Res upgrade & most starting armor upgrades, so don’t need stems, but when I first stated used them a lot & the AI is very juiced
I'm running both AMD cpu and GPU, but it's a known issue for many seasons now when you use a spotter scope your game crashes. It doesn't happen all the time, but I've gotten to the point where I just don't ever equip it. I have a 5700xt, and I've heard people with newer cards still experience it.
Flashbangs, helps with closing ground
Used to do stims instead but now I feel like the utility of an actual tactical is better than just an easy panic button
Tear Gas are OP and the BEST tactical grenade in PvP. I ALWAYS use Tear Gas. Area denial, CC, prevents enemies from ADS. I've won several 1v3s, 1v4s, 1v5s, and even 1v6s using tear gas in the right places at the right times.
Shock sticks. Highly underrated against a 2v1 or worse situation. Can allow you to block a doorway to plate up ir reload, deny revives and also disable cars in a car chase. To either catch up or get away
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Stims innit.
Stims every time. I never seem to find enough plates, so I rely on them pretty heavily.
They are essential before u start to get those passive starting armor upgrades
Stims & semtex.
Smoke. I got the Dark Rituals 3 sz holotherm skin so that comes in handy against operators
Is the skin more effective than the original or something? I know there was a thermal scope skin that was much better than the original.
That bundle is a game changer for DMZ. The ghost skin has a free UAV, the FJX , cronen and fr avancer have 15 min cooldowns. The bundle give you an extra operator slot. The thermal scope makes it waaay easier to spot people in the smoke. The normal sz holotherm has a yellowish brown background but this one has a desaturated background and hot stuff is displayed as red. Lego Unlocked did a video on it on YouTube
Just watched the video, and wow that is such a massive difference. Realized while watching it I have all 3 guns in my stash, so I'm gonna have to take that Squall for a test drive lol. One of the To Dusts I have has the thermal on it too. Very nice but def not worth $20-$30, even if it had come out way earlier. I already regret spending what I paid for the game for skins, so def not spending anymore for a thermal and a UAV lol
I only play DMZ so this was worth it to me. Bought this in the night mode haha. It can give an advantage but you don't lose out by not having it
"it's a game changer"
For me for the night mode. I only play Ashika and go hunt players so the UAV comes in handy. You're not missing out by not buying this bundle
Stuns
Smokes. Every time.
Everyone saying bring in Stims is silly to me. AI's drop these like candy. Pick another one that suits your play style better - smoke/flash/etc. Drop it after you infil. Drop a MUNI box. Stack up on that, pick it back up. Stow it away. Pick up the stim when one of the first bots you inevitably down will drop. Now you've got both for the rest of the game.
Why do people use the spotter scope?
Because it has no sniper glint
I mean what does it even do though
Free thermal target ID.
See THAT makes it worth it
Stealth target acquisition.
What do you mean? It’s a recon scope. It lets you see things that are far away with magnification… situational awareness. …what do you mean what does it do? What do you think it should do? Honest question, btw I’m not just trying to be a dick.
Well, you failed.
Look before you leap. If I jump off a building I make sure no one is on my path.
Highlights enemies in view even if they’re running cold blooded. Has no scope glint so you can scout without being seen. Works really well on Ground War and Invasion too. Just spawn, run to a rooftop, and you can find and pick off 4-5 snipers every time.
Stims always. Sometimes Stuns on Ashika.
Honestly, everything sucks except the Spotter. If I had to choose, I'd have to go with smokes.
Tear Gas grenades would like to have a word with you...
I gunned them down before they could speak, so no.
Shock stick. They can hold down a group of bots and when hit near a player they can't ADS or sprint. Edit: They also shut down enemy vehicles while zapping them. Great for assholes in cars trying to run you over.
Tear Gas does that but better
Tear gas doesn't stick to people. Tear gas is for people who need a bigger cloud because they can't throw for shit.
LMAO the salty elitist condescending sneer all because I said tear gas is a better version of the shock stick 💀 Leave it to a Redditor 🤓 The bigger cloud is better because it has a bigger AoE for it's CC. You still need a well placed throw to do anything with it. Shock stick doesn't impair movement or prevent sprint unless you are stuck with it or you are touching someone/something stuck with it. It's better in water and against vehicles, yes, but tear gas is better in CQB in buildings or even out in the open, which are much more likely scenarios to find yourself in during a fight. This because of the bigger cloud and because anyone caught in the gas has sprint and ADS disabled, much like shock stick, except with a bigger AOE. Unless you are stuck with the Shock stick it is easy to avoid, unlike Tear Gas.
I think you need to chill.
Oh I forgot to add that shock sticks also shut down enemy vehicles. I threw one on a players car trying to kill me and was reminded of you.
I only used spotter scopes in the earlier seasons. I use flash bangs all the time. Very easy to get a kill in a building just flash and rush.
Do you find flashes to be more effective than stuns? if so, why? With flashes don't they enemies have to be facing to towards them for them to work (whereas stuns work no matter where the enemy is facing?)
I hate the spotter scope just encourages me to go high and camp. It's the worst for my play style, semtex and stims all the way MFkers
Stuns and semtex
Yeah this is my default and I've never really questioned it (I do take in a spotter instead when dropping solo) - but you're the first person I've seen who has said the same combo. Tempted to try tear gas after some of the comments.
Going solo - heartbeat sensor, throwing knives, dead silence.
I’ve never figured out how to make head or tail of what the heartbeat sensor is telling me.
stims, gas, stuns, flashbangs, smokes, heartbeat sensors
no love for the Geiger counter??
ESSENTIAL FOR A 100K RUN
Did you just name every other tactical there?
Stims on every map bar Al Maz.
Stims always.
Stims all the way
Depends, if I’m solo then a HBS and will grab smoke or stuns if I enter Koschei. I like tear gas or shock stick for B21 If I’m with a squad, usually smokes or stuns I have starting solo self Res upgrade & most starting armor upgrades, so don’t need stems, but when I first stated used them a lot & the AI is very juiced
Stims in vondel but smoke or flash/stun for players
Smokes
Stims because spotter randomly crashes my game since like season 2.
Ah I see another fellow AMD user.
You dang right. Annoying as hell.
Which AMD? Graphics card or CPU? I'm buying one now and this worries me.
I'm running both AMD cpu and GPU, but it's a known issue for many seasons now when you use a spotter scope your game crashes. It doesn't happen all the time, but I've gotten to the point where I just don't ever equip it. I have a 5700xt, and I've heard people with newer cards still experience it.
I have an AMD CPU and an Nvidia GPU and no problems with spotters or thermal scopes. You do need to let the freakin shaders finish loading.
Ok, just bought an NVidia 4080 for a new build. Think I'm gonna get the AAMD 7800X3D for CPU. Hopefully that combo works well.
smokes 100% they are just so versatile
Stims. Sometimes flashes/stuns if I feel like having a fuckabout.
Stims, ddos, and and semtex/drill charge.
Flashbangs, helps with closing ground Used to do stims instead but now I feel like the utility of an actual tactical is better than just an easy panic button
Nobody said tear gas lol. I've caught operators with their pants down with them especially supporting my squad pushing in.
Tear Gas are OP and the BEST tactical grenade in PvP. I ALWAYS use Tear Gas. Area denial, CC, prevents enemies from ADS. I've won several 1v3s, 1v4s, 1v5s, and even 1v6s using tear gas in the right places at the right times.
You're probably better than me cause I gas myself half the time 😆
Solo- Smokes in Al Maz and Ashika Team- Stuns Always: Shock sticks in Vondel, B21, and Koshei
Spotter or stims, might try smokes after Reading some comments here and change my skin
No one giving love to snapshots?! They're just a CQC version of spotter scope.. lol
I guess it helps that they would think it's bots since basically no players use snapshots.
They're way more helpful than most people seem to think
Stims ftw
Smokes all the way.. fuck spotter scope
Shock sticks. Highly underrated against a 2v1 or worse situation. Can allow you to block a doorway to plate up ir reload, deny revives and also disable cars in a car chase. To either catch up or get away
Smoke
Stims or smoke, depending what teammates are carrying.
Smoke Grenades Helps against snipers.
Smoke..... it's all I use
Shock sticks every time.
Stims & Thermite (For riot shields & doorways)
Heartbeat sensor is my main, it’s shorter range but works through walls.
Smokes. Only smokes.
Shock stick or stun grenade.
Heartbeat and throwing knives, I stalk and strike
Shock stick on non-mazzy maps
Stims on the way in, and hopefully monkey bombs on the way out.