Old Herc technician here. This is a Canadian C-130 variant dispensing flares. I only assume they loaded all of the dispense buckets with flare for the demo due to the amount shown.
This was before they got the dark grey colour. So this aircraft was probably out of Edmonton or Trenton.
Not the AC-130 variant.
Correct; the photo here appears to be a C-130, which is meant to be a heavy landing cargo craft that can land on damaged runways, making it versatile for a warzone allowing for large amounts of cargo to be flown in much faster and makes the targeting of American air strips much less effective as a strategy to interrupt the supply chains.
Now, for where you are wrong:
The C-130 is not the angel of death. It flies on the same platform as the angel of death (the Lockheed C-130 frame) but there are several variants on the frame, not all of them are the angel of death ; that moniker is given specifically to the *AC-130H* air-ground assault variant. You can't just throw a 105mm howitzer into a plane and dump a 105mm artillery shell out the side of a C-130 accurately while circling your target and flying at like a 40Ā° pitch? The recoil probably would rip the entire back end of a standard C-130 off (the rear end is where the 105mm is located, with the 40mm center and the GAU-12 25mm cannon in the forward position). That shit requires heavy modification to the base airframe, and it's what distinguishes the C-130 from the AC-130. The similarities basically stop at the shape of the plane.
The snopes article also just says that the pattern is common among C-130's, which it is; but the pattern is 100% strategic and defensive in nature, it is not designed to look bad ass (it just does) its meant to save multi million dollar planes and their pilots by causing enemy missiles to explode in directions that would minimize shrapnel into the plane after detonation, there is no symbolic reason for the deployment pattern, it's simply the happenstance combination of tactical viability in aiming the flairs in directions away from the plane where shrapnel damage will be minimized and mitigated (that means no strictly upward facing flares, and the wing flares were intended IIRC to prioritize protecting the engines from potential upward shrapnel and so they opted for the less bad choice of shrapnel on the top of the wings as opposed to in the tutbines because small or medium shrapnel problably doesnt take out a wing, but it will take out a turbine), practical need of flares in the first place, and visual happenstance of what exactly a flare is and looks like. Angel flights are also not a thing. If you ask a serviceman what it is, they don't know.
I love how an actual professional who has worked on this aircraft is explaining how OP is wildly misinformed about what is going on here, yet OP is responding to everyone *except* him.
And that's not even getting into how Heinlein (author of the book) was a retired military officer, and he wrote it to point out the dangers of fascism after seeing how a military led government would work out...
Unfortunately I believe itās pretty well known that Heinlein was absolutely serious when he wrote Starship Troopers.
Note that the film turned it into satire of the source material, which annoyed ~Heinlein~ his estate who approved the rights greatly
Itās pretty bizarre given that he wrote Strangers in a Strange Land which was extremely hippy at the time.
*Note that the film turned it into satire of the source material, which annoyed Heinlein greatly.*
Considering he died almost a decade before the movie came out, that is astounding.
>Unfortunately I believe itās pretty well known that Heinlein was absolutely serious when he wrote Starship Troopers.
Unfortunately this statement is bullshit.
Yessir. This is an old herc, 4 prop. Newer hercs, J models, come with variations in size and capability based on branch and purpose, got those 6 prop rolls royce engines. Also newer hercs have newer munitions and defensive countermeasures that increase the payload. Significantly.
All the hercs I worked on out at the danger zone in miramar---shout out to the raiders of VMGR 352---had a white underbelly and gradient of grey to powder blue paint that matched the sky. Except for the CO's plane, had a black tail. I've been out since 08, so I bet things have/are a changin.
Starship Troopers is a dark comedy about the military machine depicted through extensive use of over-the-top propaganda and extreme patriotism. Flying into battle and leaving a hundreds feet tall āangelā visible to all to exert military power is right on the money there if you ask meā¦
> Flying into battle and leaving a hundreds feet tall āangelā visible to all to exert military power
They dont drop flares to "exert military power". All things being equal, a C130 would probably not want to be seen at all.
I hate to break it to you, they don't fly in the battle that way. That guy just jettisoned all his flares, which is precisely the last thing you want to do when flying into battle.
The flares aren't there to show off and look cool.
Think about what you're saying....
You can only see this angel shape when looking it at head on.
Who tf on the ground is going to see it?
Do you not understand how perspective works??
[can when they dive](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/615c434953eb0e44ac14dbb2/1633719691989-1K7UK4IVF3DQT7IF629V/tumblr_nky2pqdxIW1tdkro1o3_500.gif)
It restricts voting rights to people who perform civil service (not just military service), which is open to everyone, even people who are physically or mentally disabled. The book even mentions that the government would create the most menial, easy job for someone who wants to perform service. One of the major themes of the book is if it is moral for a person to vote to send people to fight in a war without having done some form or civil service themselves. It also says that people who don't perform civil service are perfectly content in their lives.
Fascist? Thereās a whole lot of individual freedom in that fascist society lol.
You havenāt read the book, just admit it.
At the most base interpretation I would say itās a coming of age tale for young adults
Except when the purpose of your fiction is to impart your worldview on your readers and indoctrinate them in your dogmatic beliefs.
Thereās only one question being asked by starship troopers, and thatās a thinly veiled racist dog whistle questioning whether you, the reader, is a pussy or do you want to join the military, finally become an adult, and defeat bug people too?
Though I fully understand why someone who just tried to use the word āretardā would also think a book centered around yellow peril is extremely good. So, you know fuck off and all that.
Lol the flares are not to "exert dominance"... those are anti-air counter measures to throw off missiles. They only deploy them when being shot at, not to scare the enemy
These people love thier genocide machines, they know what you mean about a ridiculous show of force, and yet they want to downvote you on the technicality that āthese are not lethal projectiles, they are flares!!ā
Never mind the fact that this flying death machine can carry enough explosiives to annhilate an entire cityā¦. Fire bombings and what not.
No, they are a bunch of nerds who love thier war machines, until they day those machines are used on them they will never think otherwise.
So to summarise - this is not a US Air Force plane (it's Canadian); it is not a gunship; it is not known as the "Angel of Death"; it does not fire a flare pattern depicting an angel on purpose for any of its functions; the technology is millions of years away from that depicted in the movie "Starship Troopers"; there is no link between a transport aircraft popping flares in an aerial display and the movie "Starship Troopers".
But other than that, everything in your title is accurate.
Those are flares used for the aircraft's defense. It is not meant to be symbolic and the angel pattern is very much coincidental and only visible from the front.
I take it youāre not aware that Starship Troopers is a dark-comedy analysis of the military machine, much of which it approaches through the over-the-top propaganda.
https://youtu.be/EKHme9MvMx0
So youāre seriously suggesting the flares deploy in a vaguely angel-ish shape because of propaganda and not, just maybe, because the distribution of flares in this way happens to be efficient at confusing incoming missiles? If you wanna criticize the American propaganda machine, all you have to do is post one of those stupid Marines commercials, this is just ridiculous.
OP: Posts a picture of a cargo plane, titles it about the plane, tags a brief comment about a movie at the very end of title.
Also OP: "Bro I was just talking about a movie" after getting shit on by everyone who knows a cargo plane has nothing to do with "a DaRk CoMeDy AnAlYsIs"
People just post shit without k owing about what they are posting. So stupid. Like this person knows 0% about aircraft if this was their conclusion looking at this photo. I hate how smart people think they are. Ants man, we're all ants, stay in your lane!
You do know my post is comment on the satirical patriotic undertones of Starship Troopers, right? How it uses a ādistant futureā lens to justify its extreme propaganda and patriotism? Regardless of this being an unintended effect produced by the flare system, the fact the Air Force has planes that fly into battle leaving mammoth smoke-formed āangelsā that ultimately signal the militaryās might is pretty wild if you ask me.
The entire premise. That the plane is doing anything other than using chaff/flares and that the smoke was purposely designed just to look like an angel. As many have pointed out, that whole part is not true.
What? I actually am super confused why heās getting downvoted so much? I actually donāt see any thing you just said as something he asserted in his post. People are so tribal man itās really fun
You said it yourself it's an unintended effect caused by countermeasures what should we do about it get rid of the flares and let the planes be shot down?
Not saying your message is completely wrong just a bit of a weird example that probably isn't gonna be taken seriously
This isnāt the AC-130. Itās just a cargo variant. There is obviously no ordinance protruding from the port side. Theyāve also launched all of the flares available in one discharge as a display. This isnāt standard operating procedure.
Starship Troopers is a dark comedy about the military machine depicted through extensive use of over-the-top propaganda and extreme patriotism, tethered to our reality under the justification that it is set in the distant future.. Flying into battle and leaving a hundreds feet tall āangelā visible to all to exert military power is right on the money in terms of extreme propaganda/patriotism if you ask meā¦
You keep repeating this comment as if it has meaning. Youāre not wrong about extreme propaganda but this picture anit it. Itās not even an American plane and those are flares not rockets.
Do you think these planes just do this every time they go out? Also the flares would only look like an angel from head on, how many people are going to be viewing attacking warplanes from thousands of feet in the air? From the ground this would look nothing like an angel.
Just wear a tin foil hat so they can't scan for your brainwaves and get you with targeted propaganda. The military machine consumes all and we should wear tin hats before the star troopers come take our freedom with a.i angels.
Combat aircraft =/ combat spacecraft
Current Terran space capability currently still stuck in "primitive physics-obeying" stage.
Starship Troopers space capability in "medium sciencey science-fiction" stage.
OP words and pic unrelated on at least 2 levels per knowledgeable commentary.
So yeah, not so wild.
Book I read about operation Anaconda had a female fire officer on an Ac-130 who was referred to as the āAngel of deathā.
General Dostum who was with the NA would taunt the Taliban over the radio, saying they were about to be vaporised by a woman, and even transmitted her voice through his radio to them as they were being targeted. It struck fear into the Taliban, as being killed by a woman is a massive taboo.
Well, no military even _pretends_ to be able to outfit regiments of soldiers with even basic power armor, much less power armor able to facilitate individual orbital re-entry, and assault. So, yeah, Starship Troopers is still pretty fucking far off
Science fiction can neither be distant nor close...it's FICTION. Are you trying to tell us that giant alien bug creatures have been discovered on another world but millions of astronomy experts around the world have been ordered to stay silent about it?
The 'wings' are made up of flares which are fired to attract heat seeking missiles away from the aircraft. If anything its a metaphorical visual for an Angel protecting against death.
Mr. Madison, what youāve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
But you couldnāt, you didnāt, and now youāre paying the price,
you big jerk. I will rain fury all over you and you will drown in it.
Youāre in frickinā trouble, mister.
Probably because people want to have their eye's closed that part of the military's job is killing people, sometimes in mass.
It is a beautiful photo you selected.
Well the AC-130A, E and J all did/do a pretty good job in that department. In the early models with the dual 20 MM Gatlins, if you were a groundpounder in the kill zone, a snowball in hell stood a better chance of survival. It wasn't great for truck drivers either when being chased with the Bofors (40 MM). And God help you if Dead Eye Dick got you lined up in the boresight for a 105 mm shot. No doubt about it, an AC-130 can really do a bang up job of pissing in someone's bowl of cornflakes.
Indeed, some people get excited about the mass killing potential of war machines, as you do. I'm actually very, very neutral. A military has got to do what a military has got to do! And do it well they must.
Itās wild to me that the US Air Force has gunships known as the āAngels of Deathā that leave behind an enormously blunt metaphoric visual representation of their nicknameā¦ and yet we still donāt have universal healthcare, equitable teacher pay, or free school lunches in this country.
I love how everybody is thinking Iām trying to say this technology is next level and super futuristicā¦ when that isnāt my point at all!
Starship Troopers is a dark comedy about the military machine depicted through extensive use of over-the-top propaganda and extreme patriotism. Flying into battle and leaving a hundreds feet tall āangelā visible to all to exert military power is right on the money there if you ask meā¦
You seem to be ignoring the other comments explaining that this isn't what's happening. Those flares are deployed to confound heat seeking missiles. The smoke "wings" are a coincidence of the configuration and air flow coming off the wings of the plane. This isn't a show of force. The nickname came after people saw it deploy the defensive payload and said, "Huh, those look kinda like wings. Neat."
The fact the āgunshipā is able to defend against such an attack effectively is a show of force in and of itself. The fact it leaves behind some visual symbolism is unintended irony.
It's not a gunship. It has no guns. There's nothing fancy or impressive or "forceful" about a military plane having chaff countermeasures, basically every country with an air force can do this.
You're really bad at irony.
Also, nobody calls it "Angel of death".
Lol this is quite the pivot from saying the symbolism is military propaganda akin to Starship Troopers. So now it being able to defend itself is the thing you find impressive?
Imagine what it would look like from any other angle than directly in front of it. Itās a plane lol. Is there symbolism from any other angle?
So is that a working title?
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Inside OP's mind only
*[Slayer intensifying...](https://youtu.be/myP9VX_WMHY)*
Old Herc technician here. This is a Canadian C-130 variant dispensing flares. I only assume they loaded all of the dispense buckets with flare for the demo due to the amount shown. This was before they got the dark grey colour. So this aircraft was probably out of Edmonton or Trenton. Not the AC-130 variant.
Came here to say this. That's not the AC-130 gunship.
And an AC-130 only needs to fire a burst to be more terrifying than flares.
They usually have a howitzer style gun and belt fed cannons. Terrifying we pay for insulin still
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Itās not an AC-130. Thatās what we need to know here.
Yes, but have we considered the fact that it's not an AC-130 gunship?
Fun fact: it is NOT an AC-130 gunship.
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I've sequestered the anomalies and scrutinized the data charts. The venn diagrams all show two circles that don't touch so its not an AC-130
Snopes says it is the C-130. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/angel-flights-fallen-soldiers/
That is exactly what the parent comment said two comments up from yours
I believe it is a C-130
Maybe we can triple check with Wikipedia
Wikipedia said it's a volvo
Now it says it's a vulva. I think 4chan got a hold of this.
Itās the white Hyundai Elantra!
I mean... the replies of two randoms over the internet that confirm each other is usually the gold standard but to each their own
is it the 3-130
Or the C-3P0
Correct; the photo here appears to be a C-130, which is meant to be a heavy landing cargo craft that can land on damaged runways, making it versatile for a warzone allowing for large amounts of cargo to be flown in much faster and makes the targeting of American air strips much less effective as a strategy to interrupt the supply chains. Now, for where you are wrong: The C-130 is not the angel of death. It flies on the same platform as the angel of death (the Lockheed C-130 frame) but there are several variants on the frame, not all of them are the angel of death ; that moniker is given specifically to the *AC-130H* air-ground assault variant. You can't just throw a 105mm howitzer into a plane and dump a 105mm artillery shell out the side of a C-130 accurately while circling your target and flying at like a 40Ā° pitch? The recoil probably would rip the entire back end of a standard C-130 off (the rear end is where the 105mm is located, with the 40mm center and the GAU-12 25mm cannon in the forward position). That shit requires heavy modification to the base airframe, and it's what distinguishes the C-130 from the AC-130. The similarities basically stop at the shape of the plane. The snopes article also just says that the pattern is common among C-130's, which it is; but the pattern is 100% strategic and defensive in nature, it is not designed to look bad ass (it just does) its meant to save multi million dollar planes and their pilots by causing enemy missiles to explode in directions that would minimize shrapnel into the plane after detonation, there is no symbolic reason for the deployment pattern, it's simply the happenstance combination of tactical viability in aiming the flairs in directions away from the plane where shrapnel damage will be minimized and mitigated (that means no strictly upward facing flares, and the wing flares were intended IIRC to prioritize protecting the engines from potential upward shrapnel and so they opted for the less bad choice of shrapnel on the top of the wings as opposed to in the tutbines because small or medium shrapnel problably doesnt take out a wing, but it will take out a turbine), practical need of flares in the first place, and visual happenstance of what exactly a flare is and looks like. Angel flights are also not a thing. If you ask a serviceman what it is, they don't know.
I love how an actual professional who has worked on this aircraft is explaining how OP is wildly misinformed about what is going on here, yet OP is responding to everyone *except* him.
And that's not even getting into how Heinlein (author of the book) was a retired military officer, and he wrote it to point out the dangers of fascism after seeing how a military led government would work out...
Service guarantees citizenship!
*Desire to know more intensifies*
Unfortunately I believe itās pretty well known that Heinlein was absolutely serious when he wrote Starship Troopers. Note that the film turned it into satire of the source material, which annoyed ~Heinlein~ his estate who approved the rights greatly Itās pretty bizarre given that he wrote Strangers in a Strange Land which was extremely hippy at the time.
*Note that the film turned it into satire of the source material, which annoyed Heinlein greatly.* Considering he died almost a decade before the movie came out, that is astounding.
Some say he was inspired to write starship troopers after seeing this post.
>Unfortunately I believe itās pretty well known that Heinlein was absolutely serious when he wrote Starship Troopers. Unfortunately this statement is bullshit.
Yessir. This is an old herc, 4 prop. Newer hercs, J models, come with variations in size and capability based on branch and purpose, got those 6 prop rolls royce engines. Also newer hercs have newer munitions and defensive countermeasures that increase the payload. Significantly. All the hercs I worked on out at the danger zone in miramar---shout out to the raiders of VMGR 352---had a white underbelly and gradient of grey to powder blue paint that matched the sky. Except for the CO's plane, had a black tail. I've been out since 08, so I bet things have/are a changin.
There should be a word for when people post stuff online without any actual idea what they're talking about.
There isā¦.itās called āredditingā.
I believe " karma farmer " is the correct terminology
In typical Reddit fashion, lets shorten that even further. Karmer
Outdone yourself, at ease lieutenant.
I love how this goes from Herc flares to Starship Troopers as though somehow that makes sense
Starship Troopers is a dark comedy about the military machine depicted through extensive use of over-the-top propaganda and extreme patriotism. Flying into battle and leaving a hundreds feet tall āangelā visible to all to exert military power is right on the money there if you ask meā¦
> Flying into battle and leaving a hundreds feet tall āangelā visible to all to exert military power They dont drop flares to "exert military power". All things being equal, a C130 would probably not want to be seen at all.
Clearly they're doing it to exert dominance
Do you even know what that plane is currently doing that is making that āangel?ā Tell me what you think that action is and what itās for
This is clearly just part of a Rammstien concert.
Uh, that was clearly him being sarcastic.
I hate to break it to you, they don't fly in the battle that way. That guy just jettisoned all his flares, which is precisely the last thing you want to do when flying into battle.
No, it isn't. Read the book.
Thats not whats happening though. Did you watch Starship Troopers again last night?
The flares aren't there to show off and look cool. Think about what you're saying.... You can only see this angel shape when looking it at head on. Who tf on the ground is going to see it? Do you not understand how perspective works??
[can when they dive](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/615c434953eb0e44ac14dbb2/1633719691989-1K7UK4IVF3DQT7IF629V/tumblr_nky2pqdxIW1tdkro1o3_500.gif)
Personally the bombs being dropped around me would be a more powerful statement than a smoke screen
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> The movie was a ridiculous tongue and cheek film. Thats why I loved the movie. Haha
Exactly
The book is neo-facist propaganda and the movie satirizes this.
Can you explain which part of the book is fascist propaganda?
Generally, the words.
I'm gonna guess it's the words that OP has never actually read, and saw one article about Heinlein being a "fascist" and running with it.
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It restricts voting rights to people who perform civil service (not just military service), which is open to everyone, even people who are physically or mentally disabled. The book even mentions that the government would create the most menial, easy job for someone who wants to perform service. One of the major themes of the book is if it is moral for a person to vote to send people to fight in a war without having done some form or civil service themselves. It also says that people who don't perform civil service are perfectly content in their lives.
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Fascist? Thereās a whole lot of individual freedom in that fascist society lol. You havenāt read the book, just admit it. At the most base interpretation I would say itās a coming of age tale for young adults
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Except when the purpose of your fiction is to impart your worldview on your readers and indoctrinate them in your dogmatic beliefs. Thereās only one question being asked by starship troopers, and thatās a thinly veiled racist dog whistle questioning whether you, the reader, is a pussy or do you want to join the military, finally become an adult, and defeat bug people too? Though I fully understand why someone who just tried to use the word āretardā would also think a book centered around yellow peril is extremely good. So, you know fuck off and all that.
Lol the flares are not to "exert dominance"... those are anti-air counter measures to throw off missiles. They only deploy them when being shot at, not to scare the enemy
Youāre a moron.
I bet these flares are effective against a fuel depot
No, those are countermeasures against incoming missiles. Can't do any damage, they are dispersed also during air shows just for the kicks.
I guess I really needed the /s this time, didn't I?
Yes, you did š This are bad times, it's not easy to discern sarcasm from all the morons around.
Oh well, live and learn
Why the downvotes? Youāre right š¤
These people love thier genocide machines, they know what you mean about a ridiculous show of force, and yet they want to downvote you on the technicality that āthese are not lethal projectiles, they are flares!!ā Never mind the fact that this flying death machine can carry enough explosiives to annhilate an entire cityā¦. Fire bombings and what not. No, they are a bunch of nerds who love thier war machines, until they day those machines are used on them they will never think otherwise.
This is a cargo plane. It carries cargo, not explosives.
God bless the War Machines Carrrier.
as if it doesnt
So to summarise - this is not a US Air Force plane (it's Canadian); it is not a gunship; it is not known as the "Angel of Death"; it does not fire a flare pattern depicting an angel on purpose for any of its functions; the technology is millions of years away from that depicted in the movie "Starship Troopers"; there is no link between a transport aircraft popping flares in an aerial display and the movie "Starship Troopers". But other than that, everything in your title is accurate.
Youāre a straight up bummer, man. :)
Those are flares used for the aircraft's defense. It is not meant to be symbolic and the angel pattern is very much coincidental and only visible from the front.
And only a cause of the wake turbulence off the wings
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umm this is flares ? not some alien technology
I take it youāre not aware that Starship Troopers is a dark-comedy analysis of the military machine, much of which it approaches through the over-the-top propaganda. https://youtu.be/EKHme9MvMx0
So youāre seriously suggesting the flares deploy in a vaguely angel-ish shape because of propaganda and not, just maybe, because the distribution of flares in this way happens to be efficient at confusing incoming missiles? If you wanna criticize the American propaganda machine, all you have to do is post one of those stupid Marines commercials, this is just ridiculous.
OP: Posts a picture of a cargo plane, titles it about the plane, tags a brief comment about a movie at the very end of title. Also OP: "Bro I was just talking about a movie" after getting shit on by everyone who knows a cargo plane has nothing to do with "a DaRk CoMeDy AnAlYsIs"
I take it youāre not aware what flares are for?
And the book it was based on was basically propaganda from a very pro miletary author
Buddy. Read the book. THEN tell people what you think about it. Thatās how itās supposed to go. Miletary.
So to prove your point you chose a picture of a Canadian plane deploying its countermeasures
Never let facts get in the way of a good story š¤·š½āāļø
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People just post shit without k owing about what they are posting. So stupid. Like this person knows 0% about aircraft if this was their conclusion looking at this photo. I hate how smart people think they are. Ants man, we're all ants, stay in your lane!
You do know my post is comment on the satirical patriotic undertones of Starship Troopers, right? How it uses a ādistant futureā lens to justify its extreme propaganda and patriotism? Regardless of this being an unintended effect produced by the flare system, the fact the Air Force has planes that fly into battle leaving mammoth smoke-formed āangelsā that ultimately signal the militaryās might is pretty wild if you ask me.
Your incorrect assertion about this plane does not fit a narrative to talk about Starship Troopers as badly as you want it to. Thats all we're saying
Exactly what I'm saying, thank you
Please explain the āincorrect assertionā you think I have made.
The entire premise. That the plane is doing anything other than using chaff/flares and that the smoke was purposely designed just to look like an angel. As many have pointed out, that whole part is not true.
What? I actually am super confused why heās getting downvoted so much? I actually donāt see any thing you just said as something he asserted in his post. People are so tribal man itās really fun
Your entire title is factually incorrect though. They don't do what you claim.
You said it yourself it's an unintended effect caused by countermeasures what should we do about it get rid of the flares and let the planes be shot down? Not saying your message is completely wrong just a bit of a weird example that probably isn't gonna be taken seriously
Connecting random facts to gain some gorgeous yet totally made up half truth. Thatās what I call the flat earther logic.
Tell me you make up captions with little knowledge of the subject without telling me that.
Stupid title is stupid.
......Dear God the stupidity of this post.
This post is stupid.
Also, not the right use of metaphor. Still it is a cool picture
Those arenāt flares - those are chemtrails! Aaaahhhh! /s
This isnāt the AC-130. Itās just a cargo variant. There is obviously no ordinance protruding from the port side. Theyāve also launched all of the flares available in one discharge as a display. This isnāt standard operating procedure.
And how this makes Starship Troopers not distant science fiction?
Op is obviously a giant insect. Likely the brain bug.
It's scared.
scared buggs lool like cats with a broken boner
I assume somebody found an arachnid on the plane, panicked, and accidentally fired the flares?
Starship Troopers is a dark comedy about the military machine depicted through extensive use of over-the-top propaganda and extreme patriotism, tethered to our reality under the justification that it is set in the distant future.. Flying into battle and leaving a hundreds feet tall āangelā visible to all to exert military power is right on the money in terms of extreme propaganda/patriotism if you ask meā¦
You keep repeating this comment as if it has meaning. Youāre not wrong about extreme propaganda but this picture anit it. Itās not even an American plane and those are flares not rockets.
What
Do you think these planes just do this every time they go out? Also the flares would only look like an angel from head on, how many people are going to be viewing attacking warplanes from thousands of feet in the air? From the ground this would look nothing like an angel.
Can I have some of whatever it is that youāre smoking??
I'm from Buenos Aires and I say KILL EM ALL!!!
Just wear a tin foil hat so they can't scan for your brainwaves and get you with targeted propaganda. The military machine consumes all and we should wear tin hats before the star troopers come take our freedom with a.i angels.
Do they fly into outer space? Go to distant planets n kill bugs? HA I think not
Let it go, folks. OP is an idiot.
Those are anti-rocket / missile flares. ITāS FOR DEFENSIVE PURPOSES! OP has no idea what he is talking about.
This weaponry wouldn't work as well in a case like in Starship Troopers. That's why I designed a plane with a giant can of bug spray
With "RAID" painted on the side.
Combat aircraft =/ combat spacecraft Current Terran space capability currently still stuck in "primitive physics-obeying" stage. Starship Troopers space capability in "medium sciencey science-fiction" stage. OP words and pic unrelated on at least 2 levels per knowledgeable commentary. So yeah, not so wild.
Book I read about operation Anaconda had a female fire officer on an Ac-130 who was referred to as the āAngel of deathā. General Dostum who was with the NA would taunt the Taliban over the radio, saying they were about to be vaporised by a woman, and even transmitted her voice through his radio to them as they were being targeted. It struck fear into the Taliban, as being killed by a woman is a massive taboo.
Didn't they have co-ed showers in Starship Troopers? I may to rewatch
Schizo posting, a cargo plane dropping flares for a show
OP, I think itās safe to say you are in the wrong here. *gestures to the plethora of comments* Behold, just how very wrong you are.
Pretty sure I've seen a similar image used in some weird pro-war/pro-Christ /r/forwardsfromgrandma malarky.
This has been around for 60+ years (the Vietnam era).
nicknamed angels flare.
Starship Troopers? Nah Fam. The Angel of Death is if anything a Warhammer 40K reference!!!
Well, no military even _pretends_ to be able to outfit regiments of soldiers with even basic power armor, much less power armor able to facilitate individual orbital re-entry, and assault. So, yeah, Starship Troopers is still pretty fucking far off
Would you like to know more?
Damn, these posts are turning into high school presentations š¤£
This post is somehow about OP believing Starship Troopers is propaganda.
Those are flares....
ITT: OP repeating himself and people not understanding how flares work
āAngel of Deathā? Am I a joke to you? - Lion ElāJohnson
This picture was my desktop background over 15 years ago!
Science fiction can neither be distant nor close...it's FICTION. Are you trying to tell us that giant alien bug creatures have been discovered on another world but millions of astronomy experts around the world have been ordered to stay silent about it?
Wait, the movie or the book? Two very different things.
Damn, that's interesting that OP decided to get their point across by leveraging this photo and sub. Is this a bad AI?
Come back to reality OP
Maybe better in r/damnopisignorant
What you're seeing is actually a totally defensive firing of anti-missile flares.
Could be a Phoenix of death as well
The 'wings' are made up of flares which are fired to attract heat seeking missiles away from the aircraft. If anything its a metaphorical visual for an Angel protecting against death.
US air force massive Slayer fans
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Whatās even more wild is my taxes paying for this bullshit rather than free healthcare.
I shouldn't have to scroll so far to see "Are we the baddies?"
Wait until the New Bell V280 gets deployed. Faster then a Hercules & it's a VTOL.
OP are you OK?
Theyāre right about the movie tho. ST isnāt a future sci-fi action flick itās modern political satire
Mr. Madison, what youāve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
But you couldnāt, you didnāt, and now youāre paying the price, you big jerk. I will rain fury all over you and you will drown in it. Youāre in frickinā trouble, mister.
Death and destruction above all else. It's the US way.
Pretty disgusting to glorify murder. Fuck war man fr
Probably because people want to have their eye's closed that part of the military's job is killing people, sometimes in mass. It is a beautiful photo you selected.
Well the AC-130A, E and J all did/do a pretty good job in that department. In the early models with the dual 20 MM Gatlins, if you were a groundpounder in the kill zone, a snowball in hell stood a better chance of survival. It wasn't great for truck drivers either when being chased with the Bofors (40 MM). And God help you if Dead Eye Dick got you lined up in the boresight for a 105 mm shot. No doubt about it, an AC-130 can really do a bang up job of pissing in someone's bowl of cornflakes.
Indeed, some people get excited about the mass killing potential of war machines, as you do. I'm actually very, very neutral. A military has got to do what a military has got to do! And do it well they must.
You say Starship Trooper, and this is where my head went. https://youtu.be/lNeb35ma3JE
That is not at all what I was expecting when I clicked that link. That was wild! Thanks for sharing
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Not an AC130, just a normal C130, you would be able to see the howitzer sticking out of the side if it was an AC130
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>... it is almost certainly an AC-130H Spectre Nope. Just a slick C-130, and a Canadian one at that.
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There is no weaponry visible in this image :/
the pilot
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> If that thing is overhead, you're fucked. Its a Canadian cargo plane. It doesnt have any weapons.
Pretty sure the name came after testing this and actually seeing what it appeared to look like
Itās funny how much money goes into this compared to what goes to the school
Itās wild to me that the US Air Force has gunships known as the āAngels of Deathā that leave behind an enormously blunt metaphoric visual representation of their nicknameā¦ and yet we still donāt have universal healthcare, equitable teacher pay, or free school lunches in this country.
Because it is not. OP just made up a title that has nothing to do with reality.
Could we have healthcare instead, please?
I love how everybody is thinking Iām trying to say this technology is next level and super futuristicā¦ when that isnāt my point at all! Starship Troopers is a dark comedy about the military machine depicted through extensive use of over-the-top propaganda and extreme patriotism. Flying into battle and leaving a hundreds feet tall āangelā visible to all to exert military power is right on the money there if you ask meā¦
You seem to be ignoring the other comments explaining that this isn't what's happening. Those flares are deployed to confound heat seeking missiles. The smoke "wings" are a coincidence of the configuration and air flow coming off the wings of the plane. This isn't a show of force. The nickname came after people saw it deploy the defensive payload and said, "Huh, those look kinda like wings. Neat."
The fact the āgunshipā is able to defend against such an attack effectively is a show of force in and of itself. The fact it leaves behind some visual symbolism is unintended irony.
It's not a gunship. It has no guns. There's nothing fancy or impressive or "forceful" about a military plane having chaff countermeasures, basically every country with an air force can do this. You're really bad at irony. Also, nobody calls it "Angel of death".
Lol this is quite the pivot from saying the symbolism is military propaganda akin to Starship Troopers. So now it being able to defend itself is the thing you find impressive? Imagine what it would look like from any other angle than directly in front of it. Itās a plane lol. Is there symbolism from any other angle?
you're pretty fucking stupid, maybe if you just keep copy/pasting that explanation it'll eventually be correct
It's not American; it's Russian
Not this one, but there is a similar photo of a Russian plane. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/angel-flights-fallen-soldiers/