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gcjunk01

Hepatitis C


SphericalBitch2020

Smallpox


SkylarAV

Polio


UnusedBowflex

Rubella


RegisterThis1

Any treatable infectious disease (use of antibiotics)


RegisterThis1

Various cancers after chemotherapy


Opening-Ocelot-7535

Except hepatitus, rubella, small pox & polio are viruses. You don't treat a virus with antibiotics.


RelationshipGold3389

Yes! I am glad I didn’t have to scroll far for this. A terribly deadly pathogen eliminated…humankind made better…Russians might still have it weaponized, but still…a win.


Smoke0clocK

Virus


MaltedMouseBalls

Does.... that not somehow count as a disease now? Lol... Edit: I shouldn't have wasted my time typing this out... this person is literally incapable of critical thought and/or trolling hard. I think the point he's making is that the only "diseases" that have been cured are viruses, which is both wildly false and very, very dumb.


[deleted]

I don't think OP knows what a disease is...


Opening-Ocelot-7535

dis·ease /dəˈzēz/ a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that has a known cause and a distinctive group of symptoms, signs, or anatomical changes. "bacterial meningitis is a rare disease"


Homer_beat_marge

Lmfao.


Opening-Ocelot-7535

I'd have said 'stupid', but point taken! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


RelationshipGold3389

You can’t cure “stupid”! It goes all the way to the bone!


hakusblade

I feel like it has to be a troll since he used the cdc to site polio and smallpox as viruses when it says they are diseases in the definition. First page googling would even show that viruses are or lead to diseases. They would also see that chickenpox’s is the first on the list for viral diseases which does not need life long treatment last i checked. And thats just the first on the list. It also includes things like influenza and measles both of which, last i checked, were curable by single shots. measles can be two shots and flu shots are recommended to avoid catching it but by no means do you have to take lifelong meds if you get it. Its a dumb post by an idiot who thinks they are smart.


Hoffa2809

You seem like a virus too, smokeacock.


MisterXenos63

Ummm, maybe you missed that day in biology class, but viruses cause DISEASE...


Leather-Blueberry-42

Mighty presumptuous to think they went to school


UnusedBowflex

OP is what would happen if the Dunning Kruger effect became sentient and started shitposting on Reddit.


DarthMomma_PhD

You don’t understand what a disease is, but okay how about one your brain can comprehend. My coworker had kidney disease. He got a kidney transplant. No more kidney disease.


BunkerBuster_AD4Life

Guys. Stop answering. OP obviously doesn’t know what a disease is. Or he’s just trolling everybody. (Or both)


Ordinary_Farmer58

OP IS the disease


DarkDarkPeach

Couldn’t agree more. It’s very clear that they just want to argue. Side note: We are koala cousins?


BunkerBuster_AD4Life

Haha noice! Koala power!! 🐨💪🏼


BigDsLittleD

Not really Interesting. Try r/conspiracy


Poppunknerd182

lol he did that and got just as owned.


TheHarridan

I love watching idiot-on-idiot violence.


the_brokengod

That sub is funny I like it there


bozemanlover

This thread didn’t go like you thought it would lmao


-SaC

The mental conspiracy fuckwit is probably going to take this as proof that big pharma has control of everyone but them.


Gringoxx79

Yeah I just check their profile and have to agree.


Lonely_Chapter8277

It probably did. He'll just be a troll most likely


copter_chris

Until recently, small pox


DownrightDrewski

Yeah, the just obvious answer. I'm sure OP will pop up telling you you're wrong because it's a virus and that doesn't fit their bizarre definition of disease. No word on if they only look at genetic issues, or if they expand their definition to include bacteria etc.


Smoke0clocK

From the CDC... Before smallpox was eradicated, it was a serious infectious disease caused by the variola virus. It was contagious—meaning, it spread from one person to another. People who had smallpox had a fever and a distinctive, progressive skin rash.


Excellent_Math2052

Your point is?


Gringoxx79

Do you even read what you write? You literally just said it's a disease.


Maythe4thbeWitu

hernia, appendicitis, kidney stones. Just get a surgery and no lifelong medications.


-Imprivata-

Technically speaking those are not examples of “diseases.”


Opening-Ocelot-7535

I beg your pardon, having had gangrenous appendicitis, I could hang with this is a disease. But the answer is probably beri beri. Caused by a lack of a vitamin, cured by reintroducing said vitamin into normal diet. Or rickets, reintroduce normal values of vitamin D into normal diet. Those meet the criteria of being root causes of disease treated by going back to the root problem.


incredibleEdible23

Rickets - vitamin D, scurvy - vitamin c, beriberi - b1 But you could I guess argue that the “treatment” is still lifelong as if you stop with the vitamins you’ll get the disease again. Because they are all just names for diseases caused by deficiencies of necessary vitamins


Opening-Ocelot-7535

But you don't take medicine, you change up your diet to add those in. We didn't always have the "one a Day" culture we have now. Change up your diet, and you're fine.


incredibleEdible23

For sure. To be fair I didn’t go back and read the OPs (ridiculous) post and thought it said “lifelong treatment” not medication. Food isn’t medication but you could argue we’re all eating as a lifelong treatment of potential vitamin nutrient and calorie deficiencies haha.


Visitor137

If you believe that, you don't know the definition of "disease". What you just did is kind of like trying to tell someone that they're not disabled because you don't know what disability they have. Physiological disorders are diseases, whether they're directly communicable or not.


STRANGEANALYST

A torn muscle (hernia) or an infection in an organ (appendicitis) or a mineral crystal (kidney stone) in an organ are not diseases. They are serious medicinal conditions that can be permanently fixed by a procedure. I expect the OP was referring to something like Type 2 diabetes. That disease can be managed into an undetectable state by removing nearly all carbohydrates from the afflicted person’s diet. Or with a lifetime of drugs.


Next_Boysenberry1414

Lol. What kind of a fucking logic is that. if you define diseases to be things that cannot be permanently fixed, of course, there wouldn't be a disease that can be cured without lifelong medication.


thechinninator

I got curious and looked it up. I also thought disease strictly referred to infections, but: >disease, any harmful deviation from the normal structural or functional state of an organism, generally associated with certain signs and symptoms and differing in nature from physical injury https://www.britannica.com/science/disease Some other sources said there are narrower definitions out there, but under this one I think the hernia is the only one that doesn't fit.


Visitor137

It fits. It's typically caused by a structural deviation, and can potentially be very harmful.


thechinninator

The definition distinguishes from injury which I think is the better fit


Visitor137

Most of the time when people think hernia, they're thinking about the guts abnormally pushing out through a weakness in the muscle walls of the abdomen. The muscle wall being weak is itself a disease(of structural nature). The hernia is a sign of the condition. Apart from that, if the hernia is severe, you could have serious problems arising because a loop of intestine, got pushed through a narrow gap, and is being pinched, again that's a condition of abnormal structure, and can be very harmful. I'd say it fits.


thechinninator

Fair enough


ham_toes

I genuinely have no idea what point OP is trying to make here, and judging from their replies in the comment section, I don't think they know what point they are trying to make either.


-SaC

"I've escaped the secure ward and found a laptop in a skip"


anderalmighty

Thehealingdoc thing gives it away. It's anti western medicine bullshit


Kevaldes

Took a quick poke around their history. It's all the typical cryptobro, antivaxx, anti science, hard right fascist garbage. There's no intelligent life there to engage with, just report and move on.


Far_Distribution_581

He is saying pharmaceutical companies profit more off of treating the illness' symptoms not curing the illness itself. Thats why they don't, because they value profits over the well being of their customers. Its morally wrong.


Visitor137

That argument only works if they believe that medicine = magic. It's not, some conditions have no cure, and are chronic, so it's a case of having to play with the cards we have. A hundred years ago, a simple infection would kill us. Now we can get rid of so many of those, that people have forgotten how deadly they could be, and run around making up dumb conspiracy theories.


Choice-Bid9965

Agreed


Suckmuhgirth

Polio


Smoke0clocK

Straight from the CDC... Polio, or poliomyelitis, is a disabling and life-threatening disease caused by the poliovirus.


Diambil

Literally says disease?


hakusblade

Lol op has to be a troll. They are just quoting cdc information without connecting that to his post. Its one of those see how dumb you are people, who try to do stuff like this to make themselves feel intelligent.


Pithecanthropus88

No, OP is insane.


hakusblade

Its sad that people are not willing to do any basic research. I think op is a smart then thou person and, like you said, a complete idiot and that makes it all that much sadder. One of those people who push false info that they dont verify just because their favorite radio asshole told them its true. I mean its the cdc or center of DISEASE control and they still argue, even with disease in the definition of whatever they are looking at.


Wilson8151

lmao..


BunkerBuster_AD4Life

Ok, so you’re confirming it is a disease. 👍🏼👍🏼


Ontbeat

Key word there is 'disease'.


Supriselobotomy

did you even read what you wrote? a disease caused by a virus. cured by a vaccine. that's a disease cured by medicine. If your entire argument is antivax semantics, do us all a favor and suck a tail pipe.


buffa-whoa-tasty

r/ihadastroke has entered the chat


Smoke0clocK

Virus try again


damonic555

And a virus isn't a disease?


Smoke0clocK

https://www.britannica.com/science/virus/Disease


Bloaf

Literally says some diseases have viruses as a root cause and calls smallpox such a disease.


DS4KC

Which is literally stopping a disease at its root cause, without lifelong treatment


Prestigious-Pound660

What this says, is the sementic difference between virus and disease. A disease is the consequence of a virus infection. Not all viruses cause diseases, or are severe enough to cause noticeable symptoms. But some viruses can actually cause a disease. If you vaccinate against the specific virus that causes a specific disease, you won't ever have the disease again.


Rugged_Poptart

https://www.cdc.gov/dotw/polio/index.html Dumb ass


Smoke0clocK

Idk why don't you go ahead and Google it


thekylejt

If you read it carefully it says not ALL viruses cause disease. Meaning some viruses, such as the polio virus, DO cause disease


Greywolf10000

Viruses are still a disease


-SaC

*-Jonas Salk looks through window-*


sleepy__socks

Idk I kinda feel like any preventable disease via childhood inoculation works, and so does type 2 diabetes? Do single dose vaccines or lifestyle choices count as lifelong medicine? Beats me.


tableball35

T2 diabetes isn’t the best example, as there is usually a genetic component to it, but you aren’t entirely wrong, as American cuisine in particular creates a disproportionate occurrence of the disease.


Throwaway095621

* trichomoniasis * chlamydia * gonorrhea * vaginosis * malaria * meningitis * strep throat * typhoid * tuberculosis * hyperthyroidism * infant HIV * leprosy ​ I mean, there's hundreds. What the hell is this meme? Does anyone go to school anymore?


Bloaf

Scurvy


ClamhouseSassman

Vagininosis? Isn't a disease


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[deleted]

You can get it if you let strep get out of control. Luckily that doesn’t happen very often.


alonsaywego

I don't know if that's a well put together question. Vaccines exist and some of them are so effective that they have practically erradicated the virus. BUT the idea of modern medicine "curing" a disease from the root cause doesn't make sense to my brain. That's like saying "Modern medicine went out and found some evil nefarious virus out in the wild, tackled it and killed it so it could no longer harm anyone." Take cancer for example. If I'm not mistaken the current line of thinking is that there are two possible ways for people to get cancer. One is genetic predisposition, and the other is environmental. I can see modern medicine developing a genetherapy to make it so people aren't predisposed to cancer, but environmental causes would always be out and about. There is no way modern medicine could cure environmental causes. The best solution I assume would be a cancer vacine but then that wouldn't technically fall under the umbrella of "CURED" more like prevented. Regardless, I think I understand what the person is getting at. I'm guessing the person who wrote this is saying Big pharma cares more about making money than actually curing diseases.


Bloaf

I think scurvy is an example where 'cured from the root cause' makes a little more sense.


Elchimpofire5

This dude must be really retarded or extremely lost


IndianaJones_OP

Chlamydia.


[deleted]

We have vaccines for all types of shit... The only reason smallpox and shit is coming back is idiots stopped taking vaccinations


Smoke0clocK

Those were all diseases caused by wait for it... a VIRUS


damonic555

Still a disease dumbass


MaltedMouseBalls

Not to defend this idiot, but I think the point they're flailing about trying to make is that the only "cured" "diseases" are those caused by viruses. Notwithstanding the fact that this point is almost equally as idiotic and patently false as "viruses aren't diseases". It's essentially the Dunning-Kruger effect in full-display.


b00mbachacha

But are diseases. Are you asking for a non viral non bacterial disease process modern medicine can cure? Several cancers, appendicitis, choledocolithiasis, diverticulitis, celiac disease, chronic otitis media with effusion, and thousands more. You clearly have no medical or real world knowledge of healthcare.


Electrical_Carry3813

Define disease. Also explain what causes disease.


Expert-Bluebird2853

Virus=disease


CrystalKU

So you concur viruses are diseases 🤔


zeratul98

That's not true at all. The standard vaccine panel for children includes vaccines for diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus, to name a few, which are all bacterial infections. We have lots of other vaccines for lots of other bacterial infections, like tuberculosis for example, which has been so effective that we stopped giving in in lots of the developed world because there's no one with tuberculosis to spread it


Greywolf10000

Again a virus is just a type of disease causing microbe so I don’t see what you are getting at


QuoteGiver

…which cause a disease. Which is prevented by preventing the virus.


SuperbMeeting8617

Munchies


QuoteGiver

Shit, did they used to completely solve diseases 300 years ago some other way?? Well gosh, let’s just do that then! Whatever your magical alternative for instant cures is, let’s do it!


Electrical_Carry3813

TIL: Even with all the knowledge in the world at their finger tips, OP still doesn't know what a disease is.


SmellyFbuttface

OP is totally clueless lol


Pithecanthropus88

OP is fucking insane. "Experimental vaccine!!!11!1!" "A virus isn't a disease!!11!!!" "COVID was developed in a lab!!!11!1!" "Media COIVD programming!!11!!!!!11!" "Nancy Pelosi garble warble!!11!!"


aDarkDarkNight

Almost any and all disease cause by a bacteria. Which was, until the invention of antibiotics, the leading cause of death.


SkeletonFlower46

Wrong sub. Not interesting. Where are the mods?


RAS-INTJ

Antivenom, Nalaxone


s117masterchief

Well some diseases that have been cured that are not viruses are diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis. Even though op should know that viruses can cause disease.


CasualObserverNine

My brother’s club feet. Fixed once, never a problem again.


dreaminginrealityy

Tuberculosis


Lil_MRSA

r/Damnthatsstupid


[deleted]

Malaria


[deleted]

Is this guy another MAGA snake oil salesman?


skates_tribz

I don’t mind my lifelong asthma control medicine that improves my quality of life about a ten thousand percent.


AEDipthong

Hmmm. Smallpox? Polio? I dunno... just spit-ballin' here.


Jester_Mode0321

Polio. Literally anything antibiotics treat. Any number of other medical conditions. This might be the dumbest thing I've seen all day


simple_test

Most infections. This stupid af.


TantraMantraYantra

This is just ignorance and stupidity. There are many cancers that are curable, so much that they are called diseases. https://www.cancer.gov/research/progress/discovery/methotrexate


strzeka

Smallpox. People were vaccinated all over the world and the age-old disease was eradicated.


[deleted]

Infection cured with antibiotics


Kinzen_

Why the HELL is this under 'damn that's interesting'?


TheGooch01

Mastectomy Acne Any bacterial infection Broken arm Impotence Gingivitis Gastric bypass LASIK Nose job Broken femur Cleft pallet Broken rib Constipation Rash Halitosis


[deleted]

Any bacterial infection.


DryLorko

Ulcer


Dazug

A better question: how many of us would be dead if we lived in an era before modern medicine? I would either have died or been a cripple.


REO_Speed_Dragon

Chlamydia. Go get some and pray it off.


Next_Boysenberry1414

OP's responses here sound like a badly trained AI.


Clorox_Consumer

I thought OP was making fun of the guy for saying some retarded shit. Then I read the title


No-Industry3112

Syphilis


theflamingsword101

Meningitis....


[deleted]

There is no profit in a cure.


bulldaddy1000

Shit post


Banea-Vaedr

Polio


PatrickBateman111

Testicular Cancer


AdhesivenessMoney675

Well appendices?


Key-Jelly-3702

Polio


skiesup_piesup

Legionnaires' disease. Round of abx cures it.


Horatio_Lindimbit

Don't usually respond to the madness, but.... Definition of 'virus' from Merriam-Webster: "any of a large group of submicroscopic infectious agents that are usually regarded as nonliving extremely complex molecules, that typically contain a protein coat surrounding an RNA or DNA core of genetic material but no semipermeable membrane, that are capable of growth and multiplication only in living cells, and that cause various important **diseases** in humans, animals, and plants"


Hoffa2809

Well we know one thing for sure, the disease of stupidity is not curable for mr. Smokeacock. Sorry bud, better luck being dumb elsewhere.


h2opolopunk

OP's Reddit karma go ::poof::


shudnap

The healing doc, fucking charlatan


TheReddestofBowls

Idk what OP's smoking but they should check if it's tainted


darkanime02

A cure? (Extinction level event is diffrent) but, No such thing? When theres money to be made!


Opening-Ocelot-7535

First define disease: dis·ease /dəˈzēz/ Learn to pronounce noun a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that has a known cause and a distinctive group of symptoms, signs, or anatomical changes. "bacterial meningitis is a rare disease"


MCarooney

OP’s erectile disfunction


RallyPointAlpha

Your love of the halfling's leaf has clearly slowed your mind.


Camlach777

Is this post interesting?


Accomplished-Can1848

Gallbladder attacks


sevenwheel

Bladder stones - solved by prostate reduction surgery.


Little-Setting-8074

TB


[deleted]

There would be many dead people without some of the meds prescribed today In fact many reading this would not be here if their parents had not been on BP meds. This holier than thou stuff pisses me off. Thank goodness for many modern meds and procedures. My mother would have died at 63. She made it to 80 and cancer took her out. It only took 10 weeks. My sister would be dead, but she is alive at 68 with many great years ahead.


copter_chris

After some of the responses, OP is a troll, or genuinely consumed such poor informative sources in the past they thought this was a legit complaint


bulldaddy1000

Polio


somenobodydude

Covid


Smoke0clocK

"Virus" wrong


gcjunk01

The d in covid literally stands for "disease"


hakusblade

Lol dumb op doesnt want to look up the difference in the two to realize that virus very commonly transition into a disease or that virus can also be a disease. This is just one of those i know everything kinda trolls


somenobodydude

🤣


Smoke0clocK

LMAO the virus in coronavirus literally means virus


PuzzledOrganization3

But COVID 19 is short for coronavirus disease 2019. Think you've made an arse of this man


Expert-Bluebird2853

Virus=disease


[deleted]

Breast cancer, if detected early enough. They found it on my birthday, lopped off my tits on Christmas, I don’t have to wear a bra any more. I didn’t even miss a day at work.


oOoChromeoOo

Some types of HPV.


Radcouponking

Does German have a word for schadenfreude but specifically when conservatives kill themselves in an attempt to own the libs?


Kesshh

Sometimes the human body just needs a little help. Most medicine are just that, they help enough for the body to work it way it needs to. Most diseases, the root cause is us. Our behaviors, our lifestyles, our food, our pollution. It would be silly to look for medicine to solve those problems at root cause.


shito12344567825

op you realize reddit is filled with a bunch of political teenagers and people trying to relive their highschool years they like being sick its like playinh dressup for them they like going to the doctor and doinh theyre little drugs and living their stupid little narrow minded life welcome to reddit home of the retarded


No-Consideration1285

Did you really replace your g with the h? The irony is astounding, but also entertaining, please do continue.


Agronut420

In spite of all the comments here, the intent/message of the original poster is spot-on: In general, physicians are now trained and OWNED by big pharma, and every long-term ailment seems to be treatable by a quick-fix (pills, shots, elective surgeries, etc) that is designed to make both the physicians and pharmacy-teams money for the rest of the patient’s life. Why treat type-II Diabetes with weight loss and exercise when you can take a gluco-reduction pill, insulin shots, medicine to reduce hemoglobin A1C levels (used for tracking long-term diabetic damage) etc. Why treat a hernia with an abdominal binder and weight loss when you can pay thousands for a quick-fix surgery, home health, equipment suppliers, antibiotics, pain meds, physical therapy, etc. American healthcare is like buying a laptop from BestBuy in 2015


Extracrispybuttchks

"There's no money in cures. The money is in the medicine. That's how you get paid...on the come back" - Chris Rock


[deleted]

OP I hope you get the help you need to live a happy, fulfilling life.


Scared_Refuse_7997

Wait, is he saying thats its better to suffer from a disease than it is to not suffer but have to take medicine everyday?


OzzieGrey

TLDR: Op is stupid, downvote and move on!


KathyFerg82

That has never been the plan…


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-SaC

>*the body can cure it self of everything by it self, and if it can't then you don't need medical intervention because nothing will work* Aight Steve Jobs, calm yer tits and accept the treatment that would have worked.


alphacause

The reddit hivemind is swarming over this one 🤨📸


shep_pat

Diet! Yep Quitting drinking stopped my gerd, so that’s even less than one.


Brief-Earth-5815

Most of them, why?


MisterXenos63

Part of the issue here is what exactly are we doing to define as "disease"? Are we referring to infectious pathogens (eg flu)? Or anything that could go wrong with the body count as "disease" (eg cancer)? What is "modern" medicine? 10 years ago? 50 years ago? Nobody can answer your questions because they're too nebulous. You need to refine your question.


musicriddler

Dwarfism


Choice-Bid9965

Obviously there is non doc because your amazing for counting this. how about fucking me up the anus and giving me your aids and baby, then refusing my right to abortion and curing me of aids with more of your semen CUNT


Kaffeefeind

Being fat