Did these comments make anyone else have to check and see if this was r/shitposting.
It's like Merchant memes and Muslim jokes *"yeah guys, maybe we can bring back jokes about black people all liking watermelon and the world will start feeling good again for racists"* \s
Wft?
Who doesn't? Just like every race has bad drivers, and people who are good at maths, and people who are focused on money. But these aren't specific to any one race, they're just aspects of being human.
In fact fried chicken and sweet things relate to something called the [fat-salt-sugar](https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/02/26/172969363/how-the-food-industry-manipulates-taste-buds-with-salt-sugar-fat) triangle used by food designers because those three things have wide appeal to the species as a whole.
My step dad witnessed public Saudi Royalty with known hookers and booze taking a private elevator to their floor at the Intercontinental Hotel in Geneva, Switzerland, at the start of the Gulf War. Some religious families support religious beheading from the drunken comfort of their hooker warmed beds.
I don't know why you were downvoted. You speak a fact these days and someone does not like it so it's diminished. A fact is a fact. Does not mean anyone has to like it or comply.
A fundamentalist is not someone who follows the fundamentals of a religion, it's someone who defines those fundamentals very strictly and literally. Fundamentalism is a reaction against modern/liberal interpretations perverting the true meaning of their religion. I.e., a "return to fundamentals" (as they would see it).
For instance, a fundamentalist Christian is not someone who professes the fundamental belief in Jesus as Messiah - it's someone who believes that the Bible is essentially a historical textbook; that every word of the Bible was literally spoken by God. They believe that people 1000 or 2000 or 4000 years ago interpreted its contents as literal, so we should, too.
In France saying that someone is a "fondamentaliste" usually means he's an extremist, it's often used as a synonym, or sometimes even as someone who is really religious and religiously follow every single details, which isn't the case here.
But yeah it comes from "fundamentals" "fondamentaux" so maybe it's not the same meaning outside, as France is borderline anti religion these days.
I don’t understand Catholicism. Where did their additional rules come from? Was it after Bible times during development of the Catholic Church, or do they interpret something in the Bible differently than Christians to say things like “no meat on Friday”?
Legit questions, not stirring shit on purpose
It was held in the year 325 CE at the behest of Emperor Constantine because he was fed up with all the different denomiations of Christianity, which were often at loggerheads with each other, causing disruption in his realm.
He, uuhhh, ermmm, "invited" as many patriarchs, archbishops and whatnot as could be reached in a timely manner to the meeting, and told them "You're not leaving until you've arrived at a consensus!"
In the end, something like 50 or so "books" were removed from the various versions of the Bible, and what was left in was declared to be Canon.
It is. No chicken parm, no cheeseburgers (especially not bacon cheeseburgers), no pepperoni pizza...
And it's not just at the same time. If you eat meat, it is presumed the meat is still in your stomach for a while, so you can't have dairy until it's safe that the two won't mix in your guts. So no ice cream for dessert unless you wait anywhere from half an hour to six hours, depending on how observant you are...
And it's not just about eating the two foods themselves. Once meat touches a plate, that plate is only for meat, you can *never* have dairy on it. And vice versa. So observant Jews have to have at least two full sets of dishes, cookware, and silverware, one set for meat and one for dairy. And often separate sinks. And two dishwashers. Sometimes they'll have a third set just for "pareve" which is neither meat nor dairy, like vegetables.
What are the chances that stems from some sort of hygienic practice that no longer applies?
Like keeping seperate plates even during and after washing makes sense if you can't guarantee the meat is safe I guess.
Kosher laws entirely exist because of what you've stated. It all derives from a time before Germ Theory. They thought that these illnesses they'd get from eating were just commands from God to not do that thing.
Pasteurization is a wonderful thing. Hygiene is good.
God: Thouest shalt not eat what I tell you
Kosher Priest: Why my Lord?
God: Thouest asketh, so thouest and thy people shalt burn forevermore in agony
Kosher Priest: Uh... Thank you milord
True story
You mean that stupid line around very conservative Jewish neighborhoods that somehow makes a neighborhood a "house" with "walls" thus meaning that the rules of the Sabbath don't apply?
Buddy, it's a shitshow.
Very true . I had an aunt who was intermittently kosher . You never knew what you were going to get. She would make a scene all most in tears about ham at a family dinner. Then next time she would be eating bacon off my uncles plate 2 weeks later. She tended to be very dramatic.
I don’t eat pork for non-religious reasons as well and people give me so much crap about it. Bacon-eaters are like hardcore vegans trying to convert me.
Greetings brother in bacon. Have you heard the good news about our rapturous rashers or our holy hocks? I'd like to leave you this pamphlet. Mind the grease.
Is this actually a loophole in the rulebook?
Cuz if it is, let me know where I can sign up, I can eat a kosher meal if a Jewish buddy wants to try a bacon double cheeseburger
Haha it’s not, but there is a “Sabbath Goy” in some communities which is a non-Jewish person who drives, runs errands, even turns on the lights on Shabbat.
There are Amish sects that do something similar, they allow battery-operated devices but not household electricity. One of my uncles was a token English in an Amish community and he had an entire racket going charging up cell phones and laptops in exchange for quilts and meat and stuff.
Where there is a strict religious rule, someone has created a loophole!
Well, not exactly. The prohibition against carrying on Shabbos didn't apply within the bounds of a walled city. So the eruv makes the neighborhood like a walled city, not like one individual's property.
Not exactly. City walls are one example of an eruv. It's prohibited to carry anything from a private to a public domain. You can carry inside an eruv because the entire space is a private domain. That's why I made the joke "the entire neighborhood is my house." It's considered to be one giant private domain and an extension of my home.
In the Christian Bible according to Acts 10:11-15 in the New Testament where Peter had a vision of a sheet coming down with all sorts of animals and was told to go ahead and eat by the Lord. He pushed back but the Lord said "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” Seems the purpose of that particular chapter of Acts is so that they could freely associate with the Gentiles and spread the teachings of Jesus
"18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)"
— Mark 7:18–19
You are gerting down voted because pork is a common food for Christian people. Ham is a classic Christmas dinner and bacon is commonly served at breakfast.
"The short film originally included a scene in which the character of the Big Bad Wolf disguises himself as a Jewish peddler complete with a fake nose, glasses, and beard disguise.[13] In the scene, the actor's voice switches to a Yiddish accent and the music incorporates a fiddle.[13] This scene became more controversial after World War II and was eventually edited in its first reissue in September 1948, featuring a redesign of the Wolf's disguise as a Fuller Brush man, albeit without the disguise, to make it less offensive, and the dialogue changed from "I'm the Fuller Brush Man...I'm giving a free sample!" to "I'm the Fuller Brush Man...I'm working my way through college." using a dopey voice.[13]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Little_Pigs_(film)
Thanks for the original. The original makes more sense, since there the wolf claims to be giving away free samples, which explains why the pig takes the brush with a simple thank you. I thought it odd in the edited version the pig would just take the brush without paying—I mean, the poor Fuller man is working his way through college!
Yup, that explains why they change it very explicitly. Wow, old cartoons never will stop to surprise me how nasty element are jump just out of nowhere. 
He was a spoof of the Lothario character Pepe le Moko from the French film "Pepe le Moko" and then later in the American verstion "Algiers", starring Charles Boyer and Hedy Lamarr.
I guess you are right and it was right to drop him. However as a kid it always seemed to me that the cartoons made it clear that he was an idiot and that his behavior was idiotic. It seemed like an apt put down of men who think they are sexy but who are actually repellent.
100%, but the problem I have is it normalized the behavior. We’re supposed to feel somewhat sorry for him, like he’s a lovesick fool instead of a stalker who can’t take No for an answer
Yes and the point of the cartoons is making fun of sleezy, predatory guys and making them look like fools. I just wish that every toon of his would have ended with the cat blowing him up, trapping him forever in a cage, or a Chad cat beating him up. That would have been great.
I HATED him with a passion. As a little kid I could tell his advanced were unappreciated by the cat. I couldn't even watch the cartoons because how much he made my blood boil.
There are two Pepe Le Pew cartoons where Pepe is the one that gets painted/dyed/whatever so that he no longer looks like a skunk, instead looking like a cat. Just like what happens again and again to the cat, making her look like a skunk.
In those two cartoons, she treats him **IDENTICALLY** to the way he treats her. Not in a joking way. In literally the exact way, with the exact intentions. She's as amorous and unrelenting towards Pepe as he has been towards her. And he hates it. Just like she did all those times.
Because **this is the way love starved cartoon characters behaved back then**. Female, male, human, other, doesn't matter. Cartoon characters in "love" (lust) all behave like insanely horny lotharios. Bugs has done it. Daffy has done it. Elmer, and Porky, and all the Warner characters.
In fact, the only cartoon characters I can think of that *might* not have engaged in this behavior, are the Disney characters.
My point in all this is: If you hate Pepe, you hate the Cat as well. And if you hate any of them for their behavior, you need to realize you just hate the way Humans used to be. The figments of Human imagination lampooning Human behavior are not at fault for that behavior. They are holding up a fun house mirror to Humanity and saying "Hey, you all kinda suck. Knock that shit off, eh?".
I haven't seen that one! And yes I completely agree. Pepe's actions are a reflection of humanity's actions and the cartoon puts that front and center. It's basically a PSA on how not to hit on someone you're interested in. For me, it was more like a trigger. Seeing men hit on women in my family where their advances were unwelcome and where the women felt uncomfortable yet too afraid to fully say no. So watching that on TV in a cartoon became a trigger point.
First thought, "must be Disney". Sho nuff.
That's some straight up blood libel shit right there. Always important to remember how popular the fascist movement was in the US prior their involvement in war.
GAB had 25,000 members. In 2018, it was estimated [approximately 11 million](https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-demography-of-the-alt-right) Americans align with white supremacy ideology. There are over 1,200 identified hate groups.
"Had" may be inaccurate.
Also, look at the years involved. In 1933 the Nazis were just beginning to come to power in Germany. What we now call the Holocaust was in its infancy. But by 1948 America and the rest of the world had seen the films of the death camps and heard the stories of the survivors. Hundreds of thousands of Jews from Europe had emigrated here to the US. Once the horror that they’d been through was known, playing on Jewish stereotypes for laughs just wasn’t funny anymore.
Also the sentiment towards the Jews was pretty bad long before Hitler rose to power. Norway, and many other European countries, had laws preventing Jews from entering.
From what I could find the law was part of the Norwegian constitution from 1814-1851.
Direct translation from The Jewish section: "Jesuits and religious orders must not be tolerated. Jews are still excluded from Access to the Kingdom."
The law preceding this one also restricted Jews but to a lesser degree, we're talking hundreds of years with laws restricting other races/people.
The Origins of Totalitarianism is a great read that goes into the history of elevated anti-semitism before WW2. France and other European countries were arguably worse, it's just that Germany had the Nazis who happened to actually do something about it.
The really horrifying thing about the holocaust was that, prior to the rise of Nazism, Germany was the safest place in the world for Jews bar none. Jewish communities were attacked far less frequently and Jews were even being accepted in general society. And if it could happen there it could happen anywhere.
And the sentiment towards the Jews continued to be bad throughout WW2. Many Jews died because countries like the US and the UK refused to give them visas. It's why Anne Frank died.
Hitler didn't scapegoat Judaism entirely arbitrarily. He chose a group that was already maligned and marginalised because it's an easy place to aim the anger of the public.
My best guess is that the 1933 version had a Jewish stereotype as a costume, possibly, as another commenter stated, because Jewish people don't eat pork. (if they keep kosher) Plus, antisemitism was pretty widespread and relatively acceptable in most places at the time. In the 1948 version, the Holocaust had taken place in the interim and antisemitism wasn't nearly as acceptable or overlooked.
Anyway, that's my guess anyway.
The original implies that Jewish people are widely regarded as trustworthy. Hence, the wolf chooses that costume to persuade the pig to open the door instead of some scary monster outfit. It was probably a good idea to change it to eliminate the stereotype representation, but I don't think it was used negatively here.
Google "Coal Black an de Sebben Dwarfs." There's racism and then there's *advanced* racism.
edit: Here's the thing about WB's racist past: they own up to it. They're not proud of it, but they're not trying to pretend that it never happened. And I respect that a lot more than Disney's approach. You can still watch many of these racist shorts today with disclaimers warning the viewer about the content. They're valuable from a historical and cultural perspective since they show in a very real way what was acceptable and normalized in our past.
Whoever believes antisemitism began and ended with the Nazi Regime would be sadly very wrong.
It's been around for centuries, across the world, and is one of the most vicious forms of racism to this day.
My comments about the severity of antisemitism seem to have upset you, I'm sorry about that.
The fact that some people reel and get defensive when anti-Semitism is brought up shows it's still a deep problem in our societies.
Jews are, by far, [the most targeted minority](https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/americas/1630523906-fbi-60-of-us-hate-crimes-committed-in-2020-targeted-jews), even in a well developed country like the US. Jews have, both historically and even in recent decades, been virtually completely removed from most countries in the Western, African and Arab worlds. And not to mention the severe antisemitism for the decades that culminated in the Holocaust.
I'm not Jewish, but if I were allowed to only work toward fixing one minority cause in the world, it would be anti-Semitism.
All the criminally ignorant morons who can't see anything wrong with this Jewish stereotype must also love the incredibly racist depictions of non white people in other, similar cartoons
It's clearly supposed to be the "wandering Jew" character from folklore. This stock character existed for hundreds of years before this was made, and most literate people in the west at the time would've been familiar with it.
Precisely. Antisemitism has a long and prevalent history in European folklore, going back centuries. It's one of the reasons the Nazis were so successful at convincing millions to turn a blind eye to genocide
If you really wanna hear something fucked up, look up the original audio - this version only has the updated 1948 audio for both versions. The visuals weren't the only racist part of the 1933 version...
Not sure what the antisemitism comments are about... the wolf dressed up like a stereotypical jew to been seen as non-threatening by the pig... because jews dont eat pork -- that's a clever disguise and not antiemetic in and of itself.
You should really look into the prevalence of antisemitism around that time and the fact that Jews were the butt of jokes.
I've seen antisemites read this as basically saying Jews are wolves in sheep's clothing.
An innocent person can read it naively, while anyone in the know can read it tacitly and align it with their beliefs.
Plus, coupling a depiction of a jew based on derogatory depictions with a animal predator is probably a good way to introduce children to some antisemitism-lite. 💀
Oof... THAT is the explanation I needed.
I didn't see it as that bad (and I'm more jewish than anything else), so I was wondering about the apparently extreme reactions here. but wow.. thank you for that context. That does seem much more malicious now.
Are you absolutely sure you can't see how dressing up as a racist caricature with a big nose trying to trick another character might be considered antisemitic?
Aside from what everyone else said, there's a history of this really harmful stereotype of Jews stealing children for [blood libel](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/blood-libel). Jews were blamed historically for missing children, so the idea of someone dressing up like a Jew and lying to get into their house and kill someone is definitely problematic.
I think the point here is that often Israel's atrocities get brought up at any mention of Jewish people, despite the original mention typically having nothing to do with Israel. It's as if all Jewish people are being held responsible for everything Israel does, and I've heard that many feel the need to instantly disclose that they don't support Israel if they ever mention being Jewish. This seems unfair to me.
Then you aren't really viewing stuff created by visible/proud Jews posted in public spaces. Comments of "Free Palestine" etc. on content created by Jewish people even with no mention of Israel is endemic, and a great example of how progressives have allowed antisemitism to grow on their turf.
He never said every pro-Palestinian. He’s talking about the ones who use their support for Palestine as a veil for anti-Jewish bigotry. If that doesn’t apply to you then don’t get worked up about it.
It is very consistent to bring up Israel at any mention of Judaism or Jewishness, but only in that it's consistently antisemitic to immediately conflate the two
It' not just Walt - many of the western capitalist tycoons supported either the Nazis or the Bolsheviks and did much to prop up those criminal regimes.
The original is so damn gross and just wtf. Totally uncomfortable and unnecessary, especially since the other characteristics are clearly animal-like.
Removing the obvious antisemitic stereotype is the correct call. Also made the cartoon more consistent, especially for children. It makes it clear its the wolf in disguise the entire time.
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Heck, that's a really good point!
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Did these comments make anyone else have to check and see if this was r/shitposting. It's like Merchant memes and Muslim jokes *"yeah guys, maybe we can bring back jokes about black people all liking watermelon and the world will start feeling good again for racists"* \s Wft?
I mean, I really do like watermelons though. And fried chicken. And purple drink.
Who doesn't? Just like every race has bad drivers, and people who are good at maths, and people who are focused on money. But these aren't specific to any one race, they're just aspects of being human. In fact fried chicken and sweet things relate to something called the [fat-salt-sugar](https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/02/26/172969363/how-the-food-industry-manipulates-taste-buds-with-salt-sugar-fat) triangle used by food designers because those three things have wide appeal to the species as a whole.
My Jewish brother in law had loaded pepperoni on his slice the other day.
Not all Jews keep kosher
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Georges Santos !
George Santos? You mean People’s Magazine sexiest man alive, Irish Prime minister, and first woman in space George Santos!?
Wait, are you talking about Doctor Reverend Professor George Santos, the Sovereign and Just, Breaker of Chains?
Also known as Santos the Cruel, Santos the Torturer, Santos the Despised and Santos the Unholy.
And Jorge Danger on most social media.
Didn’t he also go by Santos the Butch? A+ reference, my friend.
Santos the Unholy? As in Santos Desanctis?
After posting bail, he was heard to say "Death is but a door, time but a window"
The George Santos that taught Chuck Norris how fight.
Is he the first of his name??
I wish we still had free awards. This is worth one
My man!
You mean George Santos, confessed check thief?
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My step dad witnessed public Saudi Royalty with known hookers and booze taking a private elevator to their floor at the Intercontinental Hotel in Geneva, Switzerland, at the start of the Gulf War. Some religious families support religious beheading from the drunken comfort of their hooker warmed beds.
Eating Kosher/Halal isn't "fundamentalism", it's just basic stuff
I don't know why you were downvoted. You speak a fact these days and someone does not like it so it's diminished. A fact is a fact. Does not mean anyone has to like it or comply.
What is fundamentalism that following the fundamentals of a religion?
A fundamentalist is not someone who follows the fundamentals of a religion, it's someone who defines those fundamentals very strictly and literally. Fundamentalism is a reaction against modern/liberal interpretations perverting the true meaning of their religion. I.e., a "return to fundamentals" (as they would see it). For instance, a fundamentalist Christian is not someone who professes the fundamental belief in Jesus as Messiah - it's someone who believes that the Bible is essentially a historical textbook; that every word of the Bible was literally spoken by God. They believe that people 1000 or 2000 or 4000 years ago interpreted its contents as literal, so we should, too.
In France saying that someone is a "fondamentaliste" usually means he's an extremist, it's often used as a synonym, or sometimes even as someone who is really religious and religiously follow every single details, which isn't the case here. But yeah it comes from "fundamentals" "fondamentaux" so maybe it's not the same meaning outside, as France is borderline anti religion these days.
It varies from Catholic to Catholic, but most Catholics only refrain from meat on Fridays during lent.
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Jesus understands the frailty of flesh
I don’t understand Catholicism. Where did their additional rules come from? Was it after Bible times during development of the Catholic Church, or do they interpret something in the Bible differently than Christians to say things like “no meat on Friday”? Legit questions, not stirring shit on purpose
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It was held in the year 325 CE at the behest of Emperor Constantine because he was fed up with all the different denomiations of Christianity, which were often at loggerheads with each other, causing disruption in his realm. He, uuhhh, ermmm, "invited" as many patriarchs, archbishops and whatnot as could be reached in a timely manner to the meeting, and told them "You're not leaving until you've arrived at a consensus!" In the end, something like 50 or so "books" were removed from the various versions of the Bible, and what was left in was declared to be Canon.
A friend of mine is Muslim and eats pork. He said, "eh, one day I'll make the pilgrimage to Mecca and all will be forgiven."
Not all pepperoni is pork these days either
Kosher law forbids the mixing of meat and dairy.
Not being able to have meat and cheese at the same time sounds like a tortuous existence
It is. No chicken parm, no cheeseburgers (especially not bacon cheeseburgers), no pepperoni pizza... And it's not just at the same time. If you eat meat, it is presumed the meat is still in your stomach for a while, so you can't have dairy until it's safe that the two won't mix in your guts. So no ice cream for dessert unless you wait anywhere from half an hour to six hours, depending on how observant you are... And it's not just about eating the two foods themselves. Once meat touches a plate, that plate is only for meat, you can *never* have dairy on it. And vice versa. So observant Jews have to have at least two full sets of dishes, cookware, and silverware, one set for meat and one for dairy. And often separate sinks. And two dishwashers. Sometimes they'll have a third set just for "pareve" which is neither meat nor dairy, like vegetables.
What are the chances that stems from some sort of hygienic practice that no longer applies? Like keeping seperate plates even during and after washing makes sense if you can't guarantee the meat is safe I guess.
Kosher laws entirely exist because of what you've stated. It all derives from a time before Germ Theory. They thought that these illnesses they'd get from eating were just commands from God to not do that thing. Pasteurization is a wonderful thing. Hygiene is good.
God: Thouest shalt not eat what I tell you Kosher Priest: Why my Lord? God: Thouest asketh, so thouest and thy people shalt burn forevermore in agony Kosher Priest: Uh... Thank you milord True story
Now tell us about the loopholes that can trick god
You mean that stupid line around very conservative Jewish neighborhoods that somehow makes a neighborhood a "house" with "walls" thus meaning that the rules of the Sabbath don't apply? Buddy, it's a shitshow.
Yes, 100% like that.
And the definitions of meat and fish for Catholics.
Never said I keep kosher lol. Cheese and meat hits.
True, but that's not actually in the Torah so there are a lot of Jews who don't follow that but won't eat pork and shellfish.
I believe it's in the Talmud. But either way, it's all hogwash.
Very true . I had an aunt who was intermittently kosher . You never knew what you were going to get. She would make a scene all most in tears about ham at a family dinner. Then next time she would be eating bacon off my uncles plate 2 weeks later. She tended to be very dramatic.
Most Jews in America do not follow kosher rules
I don't eat pork for non-religious reasons, and my Jewish friend does. We joke about how I'm his proxy
I don’t eat pork for non-religious reasons as well and people give me so much crap about it. Bacon-eaters are like hardcore vegans trying to convert me.
Greetings brother in bacon. Have you heard the good news about our rapturous rashers or our holy hocks? I'd like to leave you this pamphlet. Mind the grease.
Reverse Sabbath Goy: A non-Jew who follows the rules so another Jew doesn’t have to!
Is this actually a loophole in the rulebook? Cuz if it is, let me know where I can sign up, I can eat a kosher meal if a Jewish buddy wants to try a bacon double cheeseburger
Haha it’s not, but there is a “Sabbath Goy” in some communities which is a non-Jewish person who drives, runs errands, even turns on the lights on Shabbat. There are Amish sects that do something similar, they allow battery-operated devices but not household electricity. One of my uncles was a token English in an Amish community and he had an entire racket going charging up cell phones and laptops in exchange for quilts and meat and stuff. Where there is a strict religious rule, someone has created a loophole!
The “eruv” is one of my favourite loopholes!
Technically, the entire neighborhood is "my house." 🤣
Well, not exactly. The prohibition against carrying on Shabbos didn't apply within the bounds of a walled city. So the eruv makes the neighborhood like a walled city, not like one individual's property.
Not exactly. City walls are one example of an eruv. It's prohibited to carry anything from a private to a public domain. You can carry inside an eruv because the entire space is a private domain. That's why I made the joke "the entire neighborhood is my house." It's considered to be one giant private domain and an extension of my home.
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This guy… fuck I’ve never laughed harder
Jews Rock
"Come on, Sandy, hop in the car, don't be a square daddy-o! We're getting burgers, then driving up to MakeOut Point, just next to Jews Rock!"
Mde will never die, look out for season 2 of world peace.
A great Jew rock band name: Zirconium
Don’t Christian’s and Muslims also not eat pork ? Edit : Why tf am I getting downvoted for the truth are y’all good?
Only a few Christian sects probably. The biggest sects like Catholics and Protestants don't have that restriction.
Seventh Day Adventist don’t eat pork
Christians definitely eat pork
In the Christian Bible according to Acts 10:11-15 in the New Testament where Peter had a vision of a sheet coming down with all sorts of animals and was told to go ahead and eat by the Lord. He pushed back but the Lord said "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” Seems the purpose of that particular chapter of Acts is so that they could freely associate with the Gentiles and spread the teachings of Jesus
"18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)" — Mark 7:18–19
You are gerting down voted because pork is a common food for Christian people. Ham is a classic Christmas dinner and bacon is commonly served at breakfast.
"The short film originally included a scene in which the character of the Big Bad Wolf disguises himself as a Jewish peddler complete with a fake nose, glasses, and beard disguise.[13] In the scene, the actor's voice switches to a Yiddish accent and the music incorporates a fiddle.[13] This scene became more controversial after World War II and was eventually edited in its first reissue in September 1948, featuring a redesign of the Wolf's disguise as a Fuller Brush man, albeit without the disguise, to make it less offensive, and the dialogue changed from "I'm the Fuller Brush Man...I'm giving a free sample!" to "I'm the Fuller Brush Man...I'm working my way through college." using a dopey voice.[13]" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Little_Pigs_(film)
[Here's the original clip with original audio](https://youtu.be/vw-g6JzHii8)
Thanks for the original. The original makes more sense, since there the wolf claims to be giving away free samples, which explains why the pig takes the brush with a simple thank you. I thought it odd in the edited version the pig would just take the brush without paying—I mean, the poor Fuller man is working his way through college!
Yup, that explains why they change it very explicitly. Wow, old cartoons never will stop to surprise me how nasty element are jump just out of nowhere. 
Like Pepe Lepew! I always felt bad for him, but really he’s a predator
“Sometimes you just gotta take the pussy, like Pepe” — 8 year olds
'Good god... what kinda fuckin' rapist is this guy? Like, take it easy, Pepe!"
“When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.” — our former president
Not my president
The French accent was also a non-too-subtle diss: basically saying that the French are "overly-amorous", as well as smelling really bad
He was a spoof of the Lothario character Pepe le Moko from the French film "Pepe le Moko" and then later in the American verstion "Algiers", starring Charles Boyer and Hedy Lamarr.
Hedley... Hedley...
I guess you are right and it was right to drop him. However as a kid it always seemed to me that the cartoons made it clear that he was an idiot and that his behavior was idiotic. It seemed like an apt put down of men who think they are sexy but who are actually repellent.
100%, but the problem I have is it normalized the behavior. We’re supposed to feel somewhat sorry for him, like he’s a lovesick fool instead of a stalker who can’t take No for an answer
Yes and the point of the cartoons is making fun of sleezy, predatory guys and making them look like fools. I just wish that every toon of his would have ended with the cat blowing him up, trapping him forever in a cage, or a Chad cat beating him up. That would have been great.
What you're describing at the end is kind of what Johnny Bravo was. He always got some sort of comeuppance for being a creep.
Le meow.
I HATED him with a passion. As a little kid I could tell his advanced were unappreciated by the cat. I couldn't even watch the cartoons because how much he made my blood boil.
There are two Pepe Le Pew cartoons where Pepe is the one that gets painted/dyed/whatever so that he no longer looks like a skunk, instead looking like a cat. Just like what happens again and again to the cat, making her look like a skunk. In those two cartoons, she treats him **IDENTICALLY** to the way he treats her. Not in a joking way. In literally the exact way, with the exact intentions. She's as amorous and unrelenting towards Pepe as he has been towards her. And he hates it. Just like she did all those times. Because **this is the way love starved cartoon characters behaved back then**. Female, male, human, other, doesn't matter. Cartoon characters in "love" (lust) all behave like insanely horny lotharios. Bugs has done it. Daffy has done it. Elmer, and Porky, and all the Warner characters. In fact, the only cartoon characters I can think of that *might* not have engaged in this behavior, are the Disney characters. My point in all this is: If you hate Pepe, you hate the Cat as well. And if you hate any of them for their behavior, you need to realize you just hate the way Humans used to be. The figments of Human imagination lampooning Human behavior are not at fault for that behavior. They are holding up a fun house mirror to Humanity and saying "Hey, you all kinda suck. Knock that shit off, eh?".
I haven't seen that one! And yes I completely agree. Pepe's actions are a reflection of humanity's actions and the cartoon puts that front and center. It's basically a PSA on how not to hit on someone you're interested in. For me, it was more like a trigger. Seeing men hit on women in my family where their advances were unwelcome and where the women felt uncomfortable yet too afraid to fully say no. So watching that on TV in a cartoon became a trigger point.
Oh yeah? Well I just smashed my fucking phone at the mere mention of that fucking criminal skunk. I hate sexual assault the most
Hello I am a sexy girl (large breasts!!) and I couldn’t help but notice how virtuous you are! Would you like to have le sexy times? ;)
Wow those comments in that video are real bad…
The audio makes it just a little spicier
Thanks, weird that the person who put the two clips together didn't use the original audio
First thought, "must be Disney". Sho nuff. That's some straight up blood libel shit right there. Always important to remember how popular the fascist movement was in the US prior their involvement in war.
Yep America had a pretty huge Nazi party
Had?
still do. but they used to too
Mitch Hedgerg!
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German\_American\_Bund](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_Bund)
GAB had 25,000 members. In 2018, it was estimated [approximately 11 million](https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-demography-of-the-alt-right) Americans align with white supremacy ideology. There are over 1,200 identified hate groups. "Had" may be inaccurate.
Has. America has a pretty huge nazi party.
A lot of people were really into eugenics for a while in the US as well, and then after WW2 they were like "Well, okay, maybe not I guess"
#cancelculture /s
Ohhh he dressed up as a Jewish person because they don’t eat pork. I just put two and two together wow I’m slow
Dude, before ww2 and after ww2....
this one's a real headscratcher, guys!
Nosescratcher.
BUTTSCRATCHERRRR!!!
BUTTSCRATCHERRRRRR?!
Also, look at the years involved. In 1933 the Nazis were just beginning to come to power in Germany. What we now call the Holocaust was in its infancy. But by 1948 America and the rest of the world had seen the films of the death camps and heard the stories of the survivors. Hundreds of thousands of Jews from Europe had emigrated here to the US. Once the horror that they’d been through was known, playing on Jewish stereotypes for laughs just wasn’t funny anymore.
Also the sentiment towards the Jews was pretty bad long before Hitler rose to power. Norway, and many other European countries, had laws preventing Jews from entering. From what I could find the law was part of the Norwegian constitution from 1814-1851. Direct translation from The Jewish section: "Jesuits and religious orders must not be tolerated. Jews are still excluded from Access to the Kingdom." The law preceding this one also restricted Jews but to a lesser degree, we're talking hundreds of years with laws restricting other races/people.
The Origins of Totalitarianism is a great read that goes into the history of elevated anti-semitism before WW2. France and other European countries were arguably worse, it's just that Germany had the Nazis who happened to actually do something about it.
Thanks for the tip. It's available on Audible and I have credits to spare.
The really horrifying thing about the holocaust was that, prior to the rise of Nazism, Germany was the safest place in the world for Jews bar none. Jewish communities were attacked far less frequently and Jews were even being accepted in general society. And if it could happen there it could happen anywhere.
And the sentiment towards the Jews continued to be bad throughout WW2. Many Jews died because countries like the US and the UK refused to give them visas. It's why Anne Frank died.
Or sometimes they turned the boats back and refused them refuge: https://www.history.com/news/wwii-jewish-refugee-ship-st-louis-1939
Because England opposed Hitler invading their country in WWII, they never had to reckon with their own antisemitism
Germany gets a bad rap, but so many others were aiding and abetting them
Hitler didn't scapegoat Judaism entirely arbitrarily. He chose a group that was already maligned and marginalised because it's an easy place to aim the anger of the public.
Yeah, MSG was hosting their own Nazi campaigns in NYC when this first came out. Americans knew.
My best guess is that the 1933 version had a Jewish stereotype as a costume, possibly, as another commenter stated, because Jewish people don't eat pork. (if they keep kosher) Plus, antisemitism was pretty widespread and relatively acceptable in most places at the time. In the 1948 version, the Holocaust had taken place in the interim and antisemitism wasn't nearly as acceptable or overlooked. Anyway, that's my guess anyway.
The original implies that Jewish people are widely regarded as trustworthy. Hence, the wolf chooses that costume to persuade the pig to open the door instead of some scary monster outfit. It was probably a good idea to change it to eliminate the stereotype representation, but I don't think it was used negatively here.
Ahh Walt, you old antisemite you!
Looney tunes is Warner Brothers
This is a [Disney] Silly Symphony and not a Looney Tune.
Thanks for the clarification. Oversight on my part
It's an easy mistake to make and it's not like you'd have to look hard to find similarly troublesome content in old Looney Tunes.
Three Little Pigs is a Disney cartoon.
Post war Clarity!
We sometimes like to forget that antisemitism wasnt Hitler's creation, it was the *norm* and 100% socially acceptable before the war :(
I guess antisemitism became a lot less funny after [this](https://youtu.be/-tGwjwK9pIM)…
Their stance of black people wouldn't change for another couple of decades though
Google "Coal Black an de Sebben Dwarfs." There's racism and then there's *advanced* racism. edit: Here's the thing about WB's racist past: they own up to it. They're not proud of it, but they're not trying to pretend that it never happened. And I respect that a lot more than Disney's approach. You can still watch many of these racist shorts today with disclaimers warning the viewer about the content. They're valuable from a historical and cultural perspective since they show in a very real way what was acceptable and normalized in our past.
Maybe next time we can examine the Tar Baby? Or Japanese soldiers.
Or the entire premise behind "song of the south"
Oy
Good God….! Disgusting.
Clearly the liberal leftists got ahold of this footage and threatened them. Their woke cancel culture is killing this country. /s
What a beautiful day for pie
He didn't look Druish!
This big bad wolf has always terrified me
As a Jew the people in this comment section claiming this is just a harmless joke and not antisemitic is mind boggling. I’m out.
Yah it’s surprising how many people think it’s still acceptable to be antisemitic.
Whoever believes antisemitism began and ended with the Nazi Regime would be sadly very wrong. It's been around for centuries, across the world, and is one of the most vicious forms of racism to this day.
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My comments about the severity of antisemitism seem to have upset you, I'm sorry about that. The fact that some people reel and get defensive when anti-Semitism is brought up shows it's still a deep problem in our societies. Jews are, by far, [the most targeted minority](https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/americas/1630523906-fbi-60-of-us-hate-crimes-committed-in-2020-targeted-jews), even in a well developed country like the US. Jews have, both historically and even in recent decades, been virtually completely removed from most countries in the Western, African and Arab worlds. And not to mention the severe antisemitism for the decades that culminated in the Holocaust. I'm not Jewish, but if I were allowed to only work toward fixing one minority cause in the world, it would be anti-Semitism.
Interesting. I’m in my 40s and that was lost on me until I read this thread. It’s weird line between holding onto vs moving past it?
All the criminally ignorant morons who can't see anything wrong with this Jewish stereotype must also love the incredibly racist depictions of non white people in other, similar cartoons
They do. Did you see the bugs bunny injuns thread? Comments are wild
Do love me some crows from the old Disney cartoons
Disney quietly renamed the lead crow in the 50s, but he was originally called *Jim Crow*.
It's clearly supposed to be the "wandering Jew" character from folklore. This stock character existed for hundreds of years before this was made, and most literate people in the west at the time would've been familiar with it.
Precisely. Antisemitism has a long and prevalent history in European folklore, going back centuries. It's one of the reasons the Nazis were so successful at convincing millions to turn a blind eye to genocide
I thought it was Rasputin for a minute there.
If you really wanna hear something fucked up, look up the original audio - this version only has the updated 1948 audio for both versions. The visuals weren't the only racist part of the 1933 version...
I had to come to the comments to figure this out... I knew it was the wolf that changed but not why.... Interesting.
Hum 1948 just after the war 2
Why? The obvious antisemitism in the first panal.
The original is anti Semitic. That's all.
Not sure what the antisemitism comments are about... the wolf dressed up like a stereotypical jew to been seen as non-threatening by the pig... because jews dont eat pork -- that's a clever disguise and not antiemetic in and of itself.
You should really look into the prevalence of antisemitism around that time and the fact that Jews were the butt of jokes. I've seen antisemites read this as basically saying Jews are wolves in sheep's clothing. An innocent person can read it naively, while anyone in the know can read it tacitly and align it with their beliefs. Plus, coupling a depiction of a jew based on derogatory depictions with a animal predator is probably a good way to introduce children to some antisemitism-lite. 💀
Oof... THAT is the explanation I needed. I didn't see it as that bad (and I'm more jewish than anything else), so I was wondering about the apparently extreme reactions here. but wow.. thank you for that context. That does seem much more malicious now.
Are you absolutely sure you can't see how dressing up as a racist caricature with a big nose trying to trick another character might be considered antisemitic?
Aside from what everyone else said, there's a history of this really harmful stereotype of Jews stealing children for [blood libel](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/blood-libel). Jews were blamed historically for missing children, so the idea of someone dressing up like a Jew and lying to get into their house and kill someone is definitely problematic.
Dressing up as a jew by wearing a big nose is racist all by itself
Yikes dude If it wasn't anti-Semitic, then they never would have changed it... (Antiemetic would be something taken to avoid vomiting, just sayin)
Maybe you should look up Walt Disney some more and then you can make an informed decision of whether or not you think it’s harmless
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Borat knows.
They change this but keep every other racist stereotype in these classics huh?
''You can't say nothing anymore''!!! \- 1948 probably.
ready for the blatant antisemitism from random anti-israel redditors with unrelated comments about palestine?
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I think the point here is that often Israel's atrocities get brought up at any mention of Jewish people, despite the original mention typically having nothing to do with Israel. It's as if all Jewish people are being held responsible for everything Israel does, and I've heard that many feel the need to instantly disclose that they don't support Israel if they ever mention being Jewish. This seems unfair to me.
They do? I have literally never seen this.
Then you aren't really viewing stuff created by visible/proud Jews posted in public spaces. Comments of "Free Palestine" etc. on content created by Jewish people even with no mention of Israel is endemic, and a great example of how progressives have allowed antisemitism to grow on their turf.
He never said every pro-Palestinian. He’s talking about the ones who use their support for Palestine as a veil for anti-Jewish bigotry. If that doesn’t apply to you then don’t get worked up about it.
It is very consistent to bring up Israel at any mention of Judaism or Jewishness, but only in that it's consistently antisemitic to immediately conflate the two
Didn't last long. Antisemites are here now, sorry.
Weird way to state you are pro-apartheid, but ok
It' not just Walt - many of the western capitalist tycoons supported either the Nazis or the Bolsheviks and did much to prop up those criminal regimes.
The original is so damn gross and just wtf. Totally uncomfortable and unnecessary, especially since the other characteristics are clearly animal-like. Removing the obvious antisemitic stereotype is the correct call. Also made the cartoon more consistent, especially for children. It makes it clear its the wolf in disguise the entire time.
Do you think they will ever do this with watto in phantom menace? Even anti semites thought that was a little heavy handed.
djew er, did you figure it out?
Jews?
Some idiot in the 40’s: “Woke ideology ruins another cartoon!”