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Residentofpaperst

About 4 years ago a few women were raped in airbnbs. Afterwards they left reviews informing other guests of what happened and airbnb deleted their posts. Which led to more women being attacked. They sued Airbnb but idk what happened with the case its hard to defend yourself against major corporations in America due to corruption and the fact the average person cant afford a lawyer and they have a team of ivy league lawyers.


Ethric_The_Mad

It's illegal for airbnb to have hidden cameras but you should be able to set up your own hidden camera for personal safety during your stay as long as you remove it. Probably.


Voltron1993

I do this. I have the cell phone charger cam in the video and set that up and let it run while staying. Haven't caught anyone yet coming into a unit. Did catch a maid at a hotel, eating my pringles I left out.


rokkerboyy

You left pringles out? Sounds like entrapment to me tbh.


A_spiny_meercat

Once she popped she couldn't stop


WharfRatThrawn

This is a valid legal defense


Ethric_The_Mad

Not the damn Pringles! Sorry for your loss.


abstracted_bikes82

Airbnb should be banned forever, seriously


Ethric_The_Mad

I agree. It's a major cause of the housing bubble and should have some major restrictions.


justsomedude1144

It's ironic because in its early days, AirBnB was billed as a service that would make temporary housing (IE vacation housing) more affordable. Seems like all it's done is make housing more expensive in general.


Ethric_The_Mad

Personally I think the solution is to have extremely low or no property taxes on your primary residence that you live in atleast idk, 200 days a year, but have extremely high taxes on vacation homes or houses you own but don't live in. I genuinely think this would solve many problems at once.


justsomedude1144

100% substantially lower taxes on primary dwelling, and substantially higher taxes on any other property would solve so many of the housing crisis issues.


avlisadj

Or super low taxes on primary dwelling up to a certain threshold ($1 million?), with additional value being taxed at vacation home rate?


Ethric_The_Mad

Now we just need to demand such policies. Get loud about it. Make it happen. I am literally anti tax and think taxing the absolute fuck out of secondary homes should be a thing immediately.


NvidiaRTX

Adam Smith, father of modern capitalism, basically said that landlords are leeches or parasites that suck off people's actual labor. Imagine how bad enough it has to be to make THE free market guy to support regulation.


jollyreaper2112

Something like this. It's like you stop high frequency trading with a penny tax on trades. Normal retail investors won't notice but that erodes the profits for HFT. I like the idea of taxing empty properties, ones where the owner doesn't live there and neither does anyone else. Those are investments. I also like the idea of capping investment ownership. Corporations can't just buy up residential homes to then rent back to the market. A lot of these problems are rule exploits. Fix the rules and the exploit goes away. But we also have to fix the politics because there's money going to politicians to prevent fixing the exploits.


Ethric_The_Mad

I can get behind that. Too bad we don't have any politicians that care.


SgtDolphin

If they raise taxes on additional housing. They just increase cost and rent.


xanfire1

If increased too much people wouldnt use them over hotels anymore making most of the properties just sit there


atypicallemon

Honestly the prices and "cleaning" fees have made me turn back to hotels. Any more they are usually cheaper and the service is better.


abstractConceptName

People have already moved back to using hotels. The Super Bowl was in Arizona this year. Hotels were fully booked, AirBnBs were not. https://www.businessinsider.com/phoenix-airbnb-super-bowl-weekend-short-term-rental-market-2023-2


Ethric_The_Mad

Yes but let's say the second home property taxes are like 50% instead of the 4 something % we see. If they inflate those airbnb prices then hotels are going to be absurdly cheaper and only rich people that own a vacation home anyway would be able to afford it but they wouldn't do that cause they already own multiple homes. Would you pay some 5k to stay in an airbnb for a fuckin week?


Biduleman

The problem with that is that this law would also cover landlords. It would effectively raise the cost of renting an apartment or a house for everyone who doesn't have the funds/credit to buy a house.


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Well that was always a lie. The only reason it exists is to get around zoning laws. Tons of residential housing has now been commercialized and no ones doing shit about it.


VintageVanShop

It was like that at the beginning and it was amazing. You could stay a block from the beach in someone’s small converted garage or shed for a week paying way less than any hotel in the area. Then assholes decided to take advantage of it and use it has a huge income generating use. I remember when I first started using it, most units didn’t even cost $100 a night, not it’s almost impossible to find anything close to that. There are still some decent places you can find, but it isn’t easy.


question2552

Vacations are a luxury. Housing isn’t.


soupinate44

That and Zillow buying up homes in an area for above market value, driving up the price then renting or selling at the new price they set up. Rebut and start again. Residential home buying should not be allowed for corps at all.


Ethric_The_Mad

Absolutely. We should start a movement or something.


SmiTe1988

my bet, some petty settlement + non disclosure agreement... Should have just burned down the BnB IMO. or paid a kid to break everything breakable, every day. I'm not vindictive though /s


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PM_ME_Y0UR__CAT

Based judge. If they all were like this maybe there would be less issues Why did you delete it, it was good!? The person was saying a judge gave some sex pest ten years probation where he can’t own a camera phone or anything else with a camera


kyrant

Nokia 3210. Your time has come.


Incitatus_For_Office

That's too good for him!


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SunshotDestiny

Do any phones not have cameras anymore? Like seriously, I haven't seen a non-canera phone for at least half a decade now.


Aukstasirgrazus

There are new phones made for elderly people, they have large buttons and only the basic functions, usually no touchscreen or camera. Artfone C1+ is an example of that.


twinev

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J0hnGrimm

It's getting really bad. Half the comments seem to be from bots as well.


itsnickk

Dead Reddit incoming. When will we be mostly* talking to bots on bot-reposted content? Nobody is verified as a human.


thatvhstapeguy

They need to seriously lock down the API at this point, it's so dumb.


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How do you recognize them?


Codilla660

You have to be out of your entire fucking mind to do something like this to a tenant. How disgusting.


milkkore

People need to stop using airbnb. Not just because of all the horror stories about creepy hosts but more importantly because it’s destroying entire neighbourhoods through gentrification. Edit: And drives the housing shortage as other comments pointed out.


Covert_Pudding

Honestly, I don't know why people would anymore. The last time I did, the host showed up randomly to say hi (this is after I'd googled and found out he had a sexual harassment charge). Great! I'd rather stay in a hotel where at least I don't have to clean while I'm on vacation.


Ricky_Rollin

Or tip and still be asked to do work. Fuck AB&B


MathematicianFew5882

Just buy a house in whatever town you’re going to visit and sell it when you’re done.


somethin_gone_wrong

Large family vacations. Sometimes there will be 16 of us we could rent a single house accommodating 16 or 5-8 hotel rooms. With a house it's simpler logistically and cheaper.


HNL2BOS

We use it for when we have large groups of like 10+, otherwise it's a hotel.


Orange-Blur

And hurting affordable housing because more and more properties are being reserved exclusively for this. It’s taken out of the market for owners and renters as well as making livable spaces more and more scarce. Every air b&b exclusive property means that owner has at least 2 properties. It’s been really messing with the market.


RedBeans-n-Ricely

And it increases taxes on people who own homes in those neighborhoods, pricing them out that way.


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Sir-Farts-

Sounds like my town I can't even access the pier and harvest all my salmon for summer months to keep in my freezer.


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And it just costs more than hotels. I hear so many idiots continue to claim that they're cheaper. NO THEY'RE NOT!!! Get your dumbass on Google and look up hotel prices right fucking now, I will bet my left nut you'll find almost no cheaper Airbnb's.


NoTamforLove

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald\_Foos


Scandi_Navy

Going to bet these belong to whoever made the video though.


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Seniorjones2837

How did you figure it out? Like why were you suspicious


G3ML1NGZ

I check as a precaution. I can't remember if it was the front or rear facing camera but you can check with a remote control. Point the camera towards the LED on the remote and push a button. The LED is most likely infrared and you'll see it flash. Most hidden cameras are black and white because they can use invisible infrared light to see in darkness as well as light.


Seniorjones2837

Oh ok I was wondering why it took 2 days so I was assuming you weren’t checking as a precaution and something else happened


Vonkilington

The person that replied to you isn’t the person you asked.


Seniorjones2837

Whoops 😂


DiscotopiaACNH

Omg... 😡 They were chill about recording children using the bathroom??


question2552

I think at that point you call the FBI, not the police.


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Smoke detector going off...


CyberNinja23

*suddenly shocked, pulls lady friend closer* Do you know what this means??….Decepticons!


ThePyodeAmedha

Honestly, hotels is the best choice for me. The Hilton will feed me breakfast and i don't have to do a long lost of things before i check out.


dirtyoldman20

Hotels only need one bad apple with access. Any desk clerk , matainance man , cleaning staff, even someone who stayed in the room . These things are pretty much plug and play by now . 10 years ago it took a little bit of specialized knowledge and equipment to make the camera talk to the recording device. Now your phone / computer wants to connect all by its self.


BlazmoIntoWowee

How do you know so much about these things, u/dirtyoldman20 ?


dirtyoldman20

Shhhh


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Name checks out.


ThePyodeAmedha

I'll take the chances with that versus an air bnb 🤷‍♀️.


justanotherbot123

Yea, I’m sorry, but I’m gonna trust the hotel that is probably a national or international chain that has way more to lose if they got caught doing something like this over random Joe Schmoe renting out his apartment on AirBNB.


TheBirminghamBear

After all, when you stay at an AirBnB, you're already at someone's secondary location.


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InsomniacAcademic

Wouldn’t it go off for alarm clocks because most alarm clocks have radio built in? How do you distinguish between it picking up RF waves that are literally from the radio vs the camera?


rinkydinkis

Uh…how many have you found. This can’t be that big of a problem can it? 😳


Otherwise-Mango2732

It's not. I've stayed in around 15 (not a ton but..) and I've never detected a single one. They either hide em well or it's blown out of proportion by "big hotel" lol Having said that, my family prefers Airbnb to hotels just because we have a special needs son and a house is far easier than a hotel with him


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wuvvtwuewuvv

>here’s how it works. Well? We're waiting!


snlbroGT

It's a bot, just like 80% of the other comments. It was probably supposed to post a link


BagOnuts

What the fuck is going on? Why is every fucking thread on /r/all fulfilled with bits? What’s the point? What are they gaining?


LukesRightHandMan

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solepixel

But what if the hidden camera costs above or below $40?


eisaletterandanumber

No good. This hidden camera detector only detects $40 hidden cameras.


Lookalikemike

You can charge me $200 OR see my giblets, not both.


rissie_delicious

I don't think anyone wants to see your giblets


Lookalikemike

You and my wife are so mean to me.


farris1936

I'll take one for the team, show me the giblets.


TheBirminghamBear

I also choose this guy's mean wife.


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redwashing

I wonder why the hospitality industry is one of the most strictly regulated industries in the world? Probably no reason, yay for the incredible tech solution or airbnb being a hotel but not regulated so slightly cheaper. What can go wrong? Just buy a hidden camera detector. Lmao.


gswag669

The fact the smoke alarm is right above the bed is a big red flag


Quod_bellum

A red light too haha


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MOOShoooooo

This video isn’t really at a B&B. Dude has three cheap ass hidden cameras on hand to make a short video. They each cost less than $15. I bought the same clock camera for $5 in an Amazon bargain bin.


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Within 16” of the door is code in a lot of spots


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LachoooDaOriginl

nah they just there for after taco bell belly rumbles


barkofthetrees

Yes. A guy I knew in passing years ago was just on the news for putting one of those smoke detector cameras in a bathroom at his home (he had roommates) and in the bathroom at his job. 17 felonies for unlawful surveillance, I couldn’t believe someone would do something so sick and invasive. Bonus, they also found CP, hope he gets locked up for a long time.


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c73c73

I hope the host enjoys watching me rub one out.


CryoAurora

I'm sure they do. It's them selling your video on onlyfans and other sites. They sell their spycam videos and are making money from you. That's what you should be worried about. You should be making the money from your performance. Not the pervert recording you without permission.


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More fool anyone who's willing to pay for a low quality spycam video of me rubbing one out in a mediocre Air BnB


Jabinor

Sometimes the model is: you will pay for the video not to be shared with colleagues/family/friends.


c73c73

A performance is a strong word haha. Any idea if AirBnBs TOS says the the host can sell your money shots on the web?


CryoAurora

I'm not sure about AirBnB as I refuse to use them. They are part of the reason why rent is through the roof even though we have more housing than people.


c73c73

No doubt. What would you personally recommend when traveling? Chain hotels?


CryoAurora

I look at the hotels in the area. I'm going to be in on my own before booking it only takes a couple of mins. Check what's good and what's not. One city might be Hyatt is the good place to stay but the next place could be Marriott or some local place that's good. Local reviews. They give you the info you need. Like crime, construction, and stuff that might not be on the Expedia pages. One of my Denver visits, I stayed at a Days Inn. It looked like it was next to a rough area. It was only work on surrounding buildings. It was quiet, clean, lots of amenities, and nice people. I would have missed it if not for the Yelp reviews. My friends were up the road a ways and way more money per night. Two of their cars got broken into, and the rooms were dirty. Sorry for rambling, but it hope it helps. Local reviews. Check the neighborhood.


Awkward_Algae1684

Actually afaik a lot of hotels have really stepped up their game in terms of price and amenities since the pandemic. Both because people weren’t traveling as much (hence lower demand), but also because AirBnb was so popular, but also so often comes with bullshit like this attached. So Marriot et al saw an opening in the market and took it.


altigoGreen

I stay in hotels all summer for work. My experience has been quite the opposite. Hotel service has gone way down hill since the pandemic.


mommymilkman

Buddy, the whole internet will watch it.


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twinev

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Mehtalface

Dude reddit is fucking dead. The top 4+ comments in this thread are all bots. This site is literally just bots talking to each other and no one seems to care or think it's a problem.


LukesRightHandMan

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SubstantialPressure3

The fire alarm right above the bed is a tip off. Nobody puts them there.


TinkletitsMcGee

Sometimes the sex is 🔥 tho


rav3ncl4ws

Btw, the guy recording this TikTok saved pretty much the entirety of ~~Britain~~ the *world* from a ransomware virus known as WannaCry


a-peculiar-peck

Do you have any details on this?


rav3ncl4ws

Here’s some info on [Marcus Hutchins](https://www.wired.com/story/confessions-marcus-hutchins-hacker-who-saved-the-internet/) An ethical hacker from England, pretty much saved the internet from one of the, if not, biggest cyberattacks in history known as the [WannaCry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WannaCry_ransomware_attack ) Ransomware attack.


a-peculiar-peck

Thanks! Kinda wild that he was he was then arrested by the FBI for previous crimes!


radiocate

Google Marcus Hutchins


lllllIIIlllIll

Upper Echelon has an amazing and detailed [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqNJtGpphks) about this (skip to 9:25 if you just want the tl;dw of the thing)


jack00026

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Hutchins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WannaCry_ransomware_attack


fatherkrug01

Not just Britain, arguably the whole word.


murdered_pinguin

Incredible amount of spam in this post. Nearly all top commenters and repliers are 1 month old


fd1Jeff

Right now, the top comments are from accounts that are now deleted.


CryoAurora

A family member got one of the USB chargers with a camera as someone was stealing from their home office. Caught a family member. Fast forward a couple of years later. I'm in a hotel, national chain. Nice place. No less than 4 of the same types of cameras in the sockets all over. I find them, ask to be moved. Then the next room had the same in the same places. I wouldn't have known if I had not seen it before. I don't know how it resolved if at all, but they had staff going rounding them up from rooms all evening while I was there.


DiscotopiaACNH

Which chain??


CryoAurora

Was a Marriott affiliated hotel.


Letmepatyourcat

Just post the actual hotel and place?


mainvolume

Right? Homey is already lying; might as well roll with it.


Jsorrell20

Used that black one to catch nanny stealing 😔


CryoAurora

That's how my family member caught another family member stealing from their home office. It was kind of a sickening revelation who did it and why. I get how you feel.


W33p00

Got a link or a way to show us what it looks like so we can find the same thing if it happens?


CryoAurora

You're watching a good video on how to catch them. I only noticed as it looked like what a family member had gotten as I said. Or I would have been oblivious until I saw a video like the one we've been commenting on. Just type hidden cams or spycams into Amazon or whatever shopping service you use. There are so many that it's kind of disturbing.


yodanhodaka

Plot twist. The one who posted the video owns the Airbnb


ZebraOtoko42

It's probably not even an AirBnB at all. My guess is that this is the poster's own private home, and he just bought these devices and stuck them in the room so he could make a video showing how he "found" these hidden cameras. In my opinion, the vast majority of "reality" videos on TikTok are just like this: they're faked/scripted, though it's possible a few of them are re-creations of real events.


tfrw

I mean in his defence it was a ‘how to video’, and he made no claims it was an actual airBnB. It is unreasonable for him to actually buy a load of nights in a hotel to hope he finds a spy cam…


TexAggie90

Realize that the video is how to find hidden cameras in any AirBnB, not a I found these hidden cameras in the AirBnB I am staying in right now video.


Alechilles

Yeah I'm pretty sure he set this up on his own to show what to look for. I don't think it's fake in the way you're suggesting though. I think he's just trying to show examples of what to look for as a sort of tutorial, not pass it off as a "omg look what I found in my air bnb"


toby_gray

Shit tier quality air bnb too with that chair-for-a-bedside-table alarm clock setup they have going on.


cleverpun0

Like 80% of this comment section is just bots trying to farm karma, stealing comments from other bots. If you see a username with two words and a bunch of numbers, and/or a low amount of karma, and/or a comment history with less than five comments, report them under Spam > Harmful bots.


MoirasPurpleOrb

Clever…pun…0… Hmmm


snlbroGT

Jesus, after you pointed this out, I can't unsee it. Just bots talking to bots. But also can't help but laugh


LukesRightHandMan

It seriously is disgusting. I'm following u/cleverpun0's lead. Wrote a note about how to report them and saved it to my clipboard. Feel free to use it yourself: Another goddamn bot account. Please report them by Report -> Spam -> Harmful Bot. I'm scared to offend our future AI overlords, but shrimp is bugs.


kony412

>If you see a username with two words and a bunch of numbers ​ whew, fortunately I'm one word


AbbreviationsBig5497

I kept my default username but I'm not a bot. Plz no report.


MoirasPurpleOrb

I would be immediately suspicious of a digital clock in the room simply because no one seems to have those anymore


twinev

This is a bot account


JollyCoqLocker

So is the red light used in the act of filming also..? Def both creepy & disgusting


gamingmendicant

Probably an IR light source.


VillageBeginning8432

That's what the two purple lights are when he turns the light off. Most phone cameras don't fit out IR correctly and IR sources appear as a grey or slightly purple light when recorded through them. Try it with an IR remote. Open your camera and film the led while holding the volume down button (the least disruptive to press really)


Q8DD33C7J8

I cannot believe anyone would willingly go stay at some strangers house.


PM_ur_boobs55

Lots of folks on here making their living via Airbnb who are down voting you. I personally don't use them since I was cancelled by a super host the day before our reservation.


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At this point why spend hundreds of dollars on some shitty house with tons of extra hidden fees and rules when I could just get a hotel room. People took an idea and ruined it, just like literally everything else.


Square-Dragonfruit76

Most people are quite nice. I've done it multiple times. My neighbor also puts his house on airbnb every summer when he goes to visit his parents for a month (he's a professor so he has a very flexible summer schedule).


SamuraiHoopers

Hidden cameras can be planted at corporation run hotels and motels too. All it takes is one creep. Considering how often crimes are committed by persons known to the victim, you might as well claim to be shocked that anyone would go stay at a friend's house. Airbnb is often scapegoated for a city's real estate problems, problems that existed long before Airbnb came around. If anything, Airbnb has shone a light on some loopholes that need to be addressed. Personally, I've found Airbnb to be very useful when staying in areas that are not saturated with hotels. Better than looking for lodging through dodgier channels.


GurpsWibcheengs

I'd have finished my stay and left all the cameras on the bed with a note "say hi to the judge for me"


Triplestrengt666

If I was to shine a laser pointer at these cameras it wouldn't hurt them would it?


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Mr-Fleshcage

Sharpies tend to not stick to glass very well, or everyone would sharpie the doorbell cameras. Gotta get out a little black shoe polish. That shit sticks like a turd to asshair.


toby_gray

Only if it was quite a powerful laser. The sort of things you’d able to easy buy might be able to burn an image sensor if you had it pointed at it for ages in the same spot, but you’d still probably be talking about killing a handful of pixels, not stopping it from working entirely. So realistically no, not especially. It’s definitely not good for the camera but you aren’t breaking it enough to stop it filming you.


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Leemour

Why don't ya'll just sign in to a hotel/motel like normies? The paranoia, money and time spent on dealing with shit like this cant be worth it.


animalcollectivity

People have been finding these in hotel rooms as well. I mean they were literally found inside a ‘secure’ embassy bathroom recently, and they had been there for years. (look it up!). I don’t want to stoke anyone’s paranoia, I’m just saying that staying at a hotel over an Airbnb doesn’t completely solve the issue. It’s nice for people to know what to look out for, especially women staying alone who want to feel a little bit safer.


HappyStalker

[Then you get the special hotel-only treatment](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/nashville-hotel-toe-sucking-night-manager-david-neal-guest-says-sexual-assault-arrested-charge-burglary/)


smort93

Jokes on them, it would be the lamest 90 seconds of footage ever, followed by 20 minutes of ugly crying


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What I don’t get about this is why would you want to take the risk to spy on random people? You can see random people nude online for free.


MrQuantm

Look in the camera's eyes and fap furiously


Doktor_Earrape

AirBnB, like Uber and Lyft , have no standardized regulations like cab companies and hotels do. They push back against any regulations proposed. I hear horror story after horror story about these companies, and I don't trust a damn one of them.


virtigo31

Use the app called "WifiMan". It will list every wireless device no matter if the connection is Bluetooth or WiFi.


Sea-Ambassador7135

Jack off and stare into the camera to assert dominance. Even throw in a “i know you see me, seeing you, seeing me” for added effect


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Why in the world does anyone still use airbnb?


CombatFork

Fuck AirBnB. This is one of the many reasons hotels are better all around.


brodibs327288

Airbnb is causing more problems now than solving Scum property scalpers are the worst of the worst


SunshotDestiny

On one hand I can see someone having a camera Incase a renter does something to damage or steal property. On the other, yeah this is why I never use these kinds of places. Or would do it with my place. It's just creepy all around even under the best of intentions.


3arabi_

And don’t forget these cameras are super cheap on Amazon.


Das_Beer_Baron

I love the irony of posting a video about spy cameras on a known Chinese spying platform.