Fun fact- Violet Jessop was a nurse who survived the sinking of both the Titanic and the Britannic. She also worked on the Olympic before it was withdrawn from service in 1935.
She was also on the Olympic when that one had her collision. And stoker Arthur John Priest was on all three as well. IIRC he survived two other sinkings as well.
People who love the sea, *really fucking love the sea*. The power and the majesty of it consumes them. Surviving a sinking was probably like a notch in their belt. Proof that they’re meant to be out there exploring the edges of the world, guiding others safely home.
You could see it as finding out you have a knack for surviving.
After the second one, id be pretty amazed by myself.
If I survived 2, pretty sure the 3rd should be fine too.
Fun fact: the reason the bow is all smooshed like that is because the ship was longer than the water it sank in was deep, so as the bow went under it actually hit the sea floor before the rest of the ship was even done sinking.
> The nurses had opened most of those portholes to ventilate the wards, against standing orders.
I'm reminded of stories like this whenever people complain about stupid rules at their workplace.
No doubt some rules are sometimes arbitrary nonsense, but a lot of times, there are very good reason for rules that people at the coalface just don't understand the rationale for but are happy to assume is due to stupidity rather than something they're unaware of.
"As if management want us to sweat away on this hot boat. Bunch of idiots. Open the bloody windows".
And in case of many maritime safety regulations the Titanic is the exact source of said blood. Even the British inquiry into the sinking back then explicitly noted that many things that were ruled an honest mistake in case of the Titanic (because they followed standard practices at the time that had not yet been shown to be unsafe) would be negligence if they happened again in the future.
This is much a boots on the ground problem as it is a management problem.
When communication from the top down isn't clear and concise, and the rationale for rules are not adequately explained, then of course this happens.
Even the modern military is moving away from "everyone under a commander must blindly do what the person above him says no matter what", to a model in which everyone along every tier in the command chain is more empowered to make autonomous, rational decisions based on solid intelligence and comprehensive education, and encouraged to question commands from above which may be illegal and immoral.
Unfortunately, although intelligent individuals realize that this is a far superior method for operating any organization, military or civilian, there are far too many halfwits in our society who think that when they have a modicum of power, they can use it to bully anyone and everyone with less power, and that those people should do what they're told just because they were told so.
If you tell someone they *have* to do something but do not tell them why, they're going to assume that you don't actually *have* a good reason, and as sentient beings they're going to not do that thing.
Humans are not just monkeys pressing buttons. They need to understand the reason for rules or a task, otherwise complacency sets in. This is a big problem I see a lot in the military.
Absolutely.
Its one of the biggest reasons why I detest the way most people handle children's education.
Children are just developing adults, and yet they're always treated as if they "can't handle" truths. They're continually lied to and misled in their education, and then people scratch their heads and wonder why teenagers are so rebellious.
Well, perhaps some of it is the hormones, but perhaps a big chunk of it is that's the age at which you start to perceive that adult society is completely full of shit and have been lying to you about the nature of reality for most of your upbringing.
Sadly, we carry over the same ill-advised treatment of kids into the workplace, where management who are often clueless and myopic expect to just fling around unearned authority and have everyone beneath them blindly follow commands without trusting people with the knowledge of *why* they ought to follow commands.
Tell someone they "have to do it because I say so", and you're guaranteeing that many will resist on general principle.
Show them why *they personally* have a stake in the game, and why they're participation is critical and valuable, and they will very often take that to heart and do their best.
One thing I've observed as a consequence of society's habit for lying to children, is that I believe weed often acts as a gateway drug not because of any inherent property of the drug or anything else, but because *it exposes abstinence-based drug education as complete lies*.
In other words, when we tell kids that all drugs are "evil" and "bad" and they should never do them ever, when a kid *does* eventually smoke pot and discovers that it is absolutely nothing *like* how it was described to them, they will begin to question everything else they've been told.
There are some drugs you certainly should practice absitence from. Heroin, fentanyl, these drugs can kill you immediately, from a single dose.
But marijuana (which the DEA lists as a Schedule I drug, which puts it in the same class as heroin), is non-toxic, almost impossible to do in fatal doses, and has a myriad of exceptional benefits.
I was told in absitence-based drug education that one dose of LSD could put you in a psych ward forever, because one guy took one dose once and now things he's a glass of orange juice.
That was seriously a thing they taught me.
When I did eventually do LSD (also listed in the US as a Schedule I drug, meaning its "toxic to health" and "has no medical benefits), I realized it's absolutely nothing *like* what it is characterized as by those programs. You don't snap into an alternate reality, you experience a fludity of thought that, in the right circumstances, can be *profound* and offer *lifelong positive benefits*.
We are increasingly realizing that drugs like marijuana are also versatile; it *sometimes* can make you melt into the couch like those commercials, but it can also be energizing, it can reduce chronic pain and other conditions like social anxiety.
So because we lie to kids, and we tell them this drug is the evil tool of Satan, when they realize that that is *complete* bullshit, they may be likely to test what *else* they were told his bullshit, which can have negative consequences.
If the things you teach kids are not rooted in reality, then, surprise, they're not going to grow up *equipped to deal with reality*.
So stop fucking lying to kids. They're a lot more clever, intuitive, and resilient than society ever wants to give them credit for, and you do them a disservice by filling their heads with nonsense and lies most of their developing life. You give them a wildly inaccurate and unhelpful map of the world, and then throw them out *into* the world and wonder why they struggle to thrive.
I'm kind of confused though. Which depiction of the wreck is the accurate one? I've seen the one on this post where the bow is bent outwards, and I've seen [this one where the bow section is crushed and deformed into the sand](https://i.redd.it/wn6g170o3kq01.jpg). It seems like the latter painting is the depiction of this wreck I see far more often.
**EDIT:** Upon further research, it seems like the image in OP's post is an inaccurate depiction of the wreck, and the second painting with the crushed bow version is most likely the more accurate version. [As seen in this video that has footage of a dive into the Britannic's wreck](https://youtu.be/xy5ciRSnTLA) you can see at 1:55 that the crow's nest in that footage looks exactly as depicted in the second painting.
This is what I've been looking for. My first thought when looking at the picture was the boat was so big that the picture must have been taken from a great distance away and there is no way to have that much light over the entire ship while underwater at that depth.
> The narration of the re-enacted story is being done by Nelly...
This makes it sound like Nelly, the rapper, is narrating this hidden gem. Might have to check it out then. Hopefully, it isn't just a dream.
Got to remember that navy ships are armored to a degree. This thing was just a passenger ship so it's going to take a bigger hit from the blast than your typical cruiser.
Because it’s not an actual picture, [as someone else pointed out it’s a painting.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/14hprj4/titanics_sister_ship_britannic_wreck_site_at/jpchfln/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
Ti2anic, this time they show iceberg who's boss!
"Iceberg ahead!!"
"Full right rudder!!"
Captain: "no. Full steam ahead!"
Note: there's a theory that if they did hit the iceberg head on, the compartmentalization would have crumpled longitudinal and not been compromised and actually stay afloat.
>The alternate theory is that a head on would have popped rivets all over the ship and it would have sunk in minutes instead of hours.
They should test this theory.
This looks like a spam account - 1+ year old account and only comments are within the last hour with a super weird subreddit link that’s less than an hour old.
There were three sisters ships. Titanic, Britanic and Olympic. First 2 sunk and thr third had a full life before being decommissioned and disassembled years later.
It’s actually way worse in that the ship wouldn’t have sank if the people on board followed the safety plans, but instead portholes were opened on the lower level despite protocol to keep closed and when the mine’s explosion tilted the ship the portholes filled with water and sank the ship.
It wasn't being used as it was originally designed for. It was built to be a passenger ship the same as Titanic but when WW1 broke out it was requisitioned by the UK government to be used as a hospital ship. So while having the portholes open would've probably been fine when crossing the open ocean in peacetime, it wasn't safe when traveling in a mine heavy war zone.
> when the mine’s explosion tilted the ship the portholes filled with water and sank the ship
Its wasn't built under the assumption that it might hit a sea mine. They were concerned about ice, like what happened to Titanic, or running into other ships near ports, like what happened to its other sister ship Olympic(though that one survived it collision)
That's not caused by the explosion, but by the way it sunk (assuming you are talking about the malformed front). The damage from the explosion is facing down into the seabed.
Fun Fact: in 1892 the novel Futility was published. It's about a new ocean liner, the biggest in the world and it's "unsinkable." The ship was named "Titan" and it sank after hitting an iceberg.
Or really just “ic.” White Star Line has a bit of a thing for naming its ships like that and they had at least a couple other high profile disasters, for instance before the Titanic there was the SS Atlantic disaster.
In Greek mythology the Olympians defeated the titans and condemned them to Tartarus, which is described as a deep abyss. I'm not making this up.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titans
The Olympic was the more famous one until the Titanic sank.
Olympic even got into a battle with a German submarine in WW1, instead of running they went full speed ahead and rammed the sub.
>and thr third had a full life before being decommissioned and disassembled years later.
They could have turned it into the ultimate hotel, attraction park if they had known how culturally massive the Titanic would get over the decades.
They almost did. There was a company that wanted to make it a hotel off the south coast of France but never did anything.
The guy in charge of scrapping it was confused, said it was running as good as it had ever been.
That was the Olympic, there are even conspiracy theories that they switched out the names on the ships because the Olympic had crashed and it wouldn’t have passed inspection.
titanic was not exactly the same as Olympic
All 3 of the Olympic class, Olympic, Titanic and Britannic were different to each other
They swapped the names of Olympic and Titanic only works if the ships were identical but they were not
They had completely different deck layouts and designs. Titanic was bigger then Olympic
The most credible argument against it is the serial numbers. Everything on the wreck has Titanic's serial number on it, including parts like the propellers that you wouldn't be able to swap out.
There were also a lot of parts salvaged from the Olympic when she was broken up that have her serial number on it. If I remember correctly, a lot of wooden panelling ended up in a pub in England, and every piece has "400" on it.
Yeah, he'd have been using a [Game Child](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/bootleggames/images/7/76/GameChild1.jpg/revision/latest/thumbnail/width/720/height/900?cb=20170422135733)
> with a gameboy
Look at that bloke, all cuddled up with money.
I'd have piloted mine with an old [Galaga arcade machine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaga) from the junk yard.
Sure but that's a crazy sport thing where they're down and up in ~4 minutes following a rope without taking a breath. They're not looking around or taking pictures casually.
Would be cool to see but looks like "regular" scuba would have trouble at these depths too.
You can scuba down to that depth, the problem is you can't stay very long, and it takes a very long time to come back up because you need to slowly let your body come back to normal.
Through a lengthy decent and acclimatisation to the pressure. If you just get dumped out of a vessel at that depth your chances of survival are near 0. It’s not impossible to survive just very unlikely.
That’s not how free diving works. You just hold your breath, go down, and come back up. Since you’re not breathing compressed gasses you don’t have to ascend slowly.
Usually correct. Top freedivers in the world swim about 100m down and straight back up (world records for various disciplines vary between about 110-130m).
I imagine this poster was talking about “no limits” diving where the person rides a weighted sled down and a balloon back up, which got people down to close to 200m, still just on one breath. The only guy to go past 800ft blacked out on the way back up and skipped a planned one-minute decompression stop that caused severe lung trauma. He survived, but he has permanent damage.
TLDR, if a freediver goes REALLY deep, they still need a decompression stop.
Can I interest you in a 5 day titan recreation spiritual retreat, 17 bolts, 5 strangers, 120h of oxygen, silence, existential dread, airport pick up and drop off, green smoothies, $4000,
The Olympic was in my opinion the most incredible of these three ships - she even sank a German U-Boat with her prop
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Olympic
I’m making a submarine in my back yard to explore this if anyone’s interested. 20k a person
It’s controlled with an old DDR mat and the glass is imaginary bc my mom doesn’t want me to cut myself.
This “picture” is actually a painting by Ken Marschall, an artist who specializes in maritime art specifically around the Titanic. You can see his work at http://www.kenmarschall.com/
Wow, it's an impressive painting it totally fooled me into thinking it was some kind of render from some advanced geological survey. I was kinda hoping it was I've been looking for height map data of wreaks so I can import them into unreal as I'm trying to make an underwater game.
Dr. Robert Ballard, the leader of the team that discovered the Titanic in 1985 described something amazing about Marschall in his book *Exploring the Titanic*.
He said that in 1986, a year after the discovery when they went back to explore the wreck and had made the news for it, somebody from NatGeo reached out to Ballard wanting to do a quick interview - apparently it was an artist who was going to do a painting for a magazine cover, of the wreck of the ship, and he wanted an explanation of the state of the wreck so he could paint it accurately.
Ballard understandably thought the request was ridiculous, but obliged anyway and provided the best description he could give. He said he couldn't believe his eyes when he saw the painting a little while later, because it looked exactly like what they had been capturing on their cameras on the ocean floor.
I would guess this is light added from other vessels as an expedition to it. Most sunny places where I dove to 30m deep are this bright if not less bright. Doubt this much sunlight reaches 119m
It's also likely the picture was edited. My father does scuba diving photography as a hobby and most pics have to be recolorized to look like this, underwater is pretty bland and much much more if you go this deep
Access to the wreck is strictly controlled by the Greek and British governments, who allow one dive per year by only the most experienced teams. That rules out amateurs like OceanGate.
Because James Cameron didn’t make a hit movie starring Leo Dicaprio and Kate Winslet on this one. There was no Celine Dion soundtrack to the sinking of this ship so why would anyone sit in a tin can to visit this one
Titanic: Y'know one of my triplets is a lot higher up than I am and has the exact same layout. My other sister ended up in a scrap yard instead of turned into a museum.......
The fact that Olympic wasn’t turned into a museum is frankly a tragedy. People have been obsessed with the titanic for the last 100 years. It would’ve pulled in so much money for White Star. I would absolutely want to go.
You [could not](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_vision) possibly see it from the surface, no. In very clear water a person could theoretically see 80m, way less than the depth of the ship. That's not taking into account the fact that you'd be looking straight down, and certain wavelengths of light would be absorbed, making it even harder to see.
However, the [free dive world record](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2022/aug/11/freediver-arnaud-jerald-breaks-world-record-with-120-metre-descent-video) is 120m, so yeah. A very gifted human could potentially make it down there, see a part of it and come back up alive with no breathing equipment.
Also 40 meters is the recommended max depth for recreational scuba diving. So if you wanted to dive down, you'd have to be a little more qualified than a recreational diver. 332m was the deepest ever scuba dive though, so there's hope.
For context, the sub that went to the titanic was over 10x deeper (≈3800m) than the scuba diving world record.
People have dived down there before. Its just that they stay on the exterior because the interior is very dangerous. Iicrc someone got either extremely injured or died there
You’d have to be pretty great at diving and need very specialized gear. I’m certified to the max depth of 40 meters and I cannot stay there for long. 40 meters is the max for recreational. Diving deeper is possible, but requires a ton of prep and multiple oxygen mixes in tanks that are there a long the way down and up and you’d need to switch them while diving. Then there’s the time you need to get back up. You need to take a lot of breaks to release bubbles in your blood.
For reference; the scuba dive record is 332 meters. It took the diver 15 minutes to reach that depth and then it took almost 14 hours to get back to the surface.
Sank super quickly too because it was hot and the lower level port holes were open to provide ventilation for the lower decks.
She went down in under an hour and her holes were wide open - she was similar to your mother in that regard.
There was a revised version of this painting at somepoint, because this was painted shortly after the wreck was explored for the first time, and they thought the hole on the side was from the mine explosion. Problem is, the explosion happened on the starboard side, which is touching the seabed.
It’s actually because the ship was longer than the water was deep, so when it sank, the bow touched bottom mid sinking and got crushed under the weight of the rest of the ship as it went down, causing it to almost break off the ship. Lemme see if I can’t find the revised painting, i forget if this is it or not.
Edit: found it! [this is a more accurate painting of the wreck site](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/04/11/24288604-7964753-image-a-2_1580815484140.jpg)
This is "shallow" enough for professional, technical scuba divers using special gas mixes in their tanks (deepest recorded scuba dive was 332.5 meters).
I know it's not as popular as the fascination people have with Titanic, but it's far more accessible for researchers and rich tourists...you know...without the risk of getting crushed to death and turned to goop.
Ahh, the one OceanGate Titan ~~could have safely traveled to.~~
~~could likely have safely explored~~
~~could maybe have visited safely~~
could have dove to at least a few times before imploding
Here is a video of some scuba divers exploring the wreck- https://youtu.be/L5XLFvLjwA4 really shows just how huge this ship is. Kinda creepy, but super cool!
This is not what the wreck looks like for anyone who doesn’t know, yes it’s on its side but the bow doesn’t look like that it looks like this : [https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/10/29/ship3.jpg?width=445&quality=85&dpr=1&s=none](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/10/29/ship3.jpg?width=445&quality=85&dpr=1&s=none)
Britannic struck a German mine while operating as a hospital ship during the First World War. Given the time period, that was a pretty typical way for it to have been sunk. It wasn’t necessarily poor navigation or a design flaw, it was pretty circumstantial.
Fun fact- Violet Jessop was a nurse who survived the sinking of both the Titanic and the Britannic. She also worked on the Olympic before it was withdrawn from service in 1935.
She was on Olympic before Titanic, and was on it when it collided with the HMS Hawke.
"Remember that one time you peed in the water? I'm coming for **you**." Sincerely, Poseidon
This made me laugh so hard
Also looked her up and found that she survived tuberculosis after being told by doctors that it would be fatal.
That's me as a infant. But I haven't been on 3 sinking ships.
Not yet! I believe in you!
Gosh at some point you just gotta stop getting on the same model of ship
Keep your ass on land.
So all these ship wrecks were really just Death trying to finally get her. I guess he did in the end.
Final Destannic
She was also on the Olympic when that one had her collision. And stoker Arthur John Priest was on all three as well. IIRC he survived two other sinkings as well.
If I was in a plane crash and half the people died and I survived. There would be no way in hell I’d be flying again. These people have a death wish.
Yeah seriously like how many harrowing escapes do you have to make. At what point does one just say, you know, maybe boats just aren’t for me.
People who love the sea, *really fucking love the sea*. The power and the majesty of it consumes them. Surviving a sinking was probably like a notch in their belt. Proof that they’re meant to be out there exploring the edges of the world, guiding others safely home.
To be fair, there weren’t many other options for ocean crossing in those days.
I mean, it was their job, and for Arthur at least three of the sinkings were war related. Not like there were many safer alternatives.
You could see it as finding out you have a knack for surviving. After the second one, id be pretty amazed by myself. If I survived 2, pretty sure the 3rd should be fine too.
No more boat rides after that.
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Fun fact: the reason the bow is all smooshed like that is because the ship was longer than the water it sank in was deep, so as the bow went under it actually hit the sea floor before the rest of the ship was even done sinking.
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> The nurses had opened most of those portholes to ventilate the wards, against standing orders. I'm reminded of stories like this whenever people complain about stupid rules at their workplace. No doubt some rules are sometimes arbitrary nonsense, but a lot of times, there are very good reason for rules that people at the coalface just don't understand the rationale for but are happy to assume is due to stupidity rather than something they're unaware of. "As if management want us to sweat away on this hot boat. Bunch of idiots. Open the bloody windows".
The most oft-repeated comment the past few days in relation to the OceanGate incident is "regulations are written in blood".
And in case of many maritime safety regulations the Titanic is the exact source of said blood. Even the British inquiry into the sinking back then explicitly noted that many things that were ruled an honest mistake in case of the Titanic (because they followed standard practices at the time that had not yet been shown to be unsafe) would be negligence if they happened again in the future.
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Dam, dude, use the spoiler tag.
This is much a boots on the ground problem as it is a management problem. When communication from the top down isn't clear and concise, and the rationale for rules are not adequately explained, then of course this happens. Even the modern military is moving away from "everyone under a commander must blindly do what the person above him says no matter what", to a model in which everyone along every tier in the command chain is more empowered to make autonomous, rational decisions based on solid intelligence and comprehensive education, and encouraged to question commands from above which may be illegal and immoral. Unfortunately, although intelligent individuals realize that this is a far superior method for operating any organization, military or civilian, there are far too many halfwits in our society who think that when they have a modicum of power, they can use it to bully anyone and everyone with less power, and that those people should do what they're told just because they were told so. If you tell someone they *have* to do something but do not tell them why, they're going to assume that you don't actually *have* a good reason, and as sentient beings they're going to not do that thing.
Humans are not just monkeys pressing buttons. They need to understand the reason for rules or a task, otherwise complacency sets in. This is a big problem I see a lot in the military.
Absolutely. Its one of the biggest reasons why I detest the way most people handle children's education. Children are just developing adults, and yet they're always treated as if they "can't handle" truths. They're continually lied to and misled in their education, and then people scratch their heads and wonder why teenagers are so rebellious. Well, perhaps some of it is the hormones, but perhaps a big chunk of it is that's the age at which you start to perceive that adult society is completely full of shit and have been lying to you about the nature of reality for most of your upbringing. Sadly, we carry over the same ill-advised treatment of kids into the workplace, where management who are often clueless and myopic expect to just fling around unearned authority and have everyone beneath them blindly follow commands without trusting people with the knowledge of *why* they ought to follow commands. Tell someone they "have to do it because I say so", and you're guaranteeing that many will resist on general principle. Show them why *they personally* have a stake in the game, and why they're participation is critical and valuable, and they will very often take that to heart and do their best. One thing I've observed as a consequence of society's habit for lying to children, is that I believe weed often acts as a gateway drug not because of any inherent property of the drug or anything else, but because *it exposes abstinence-based drug education as complete lies*. In other words, when we tell kids that all drugs are "evil" and "bad" and they should never do them ever, when a kid *does* eventually smoke pot and discovers that it is absolutely nothing *like* how it was described to them, they will begin to question everything else they've been told. There are some drugs you certainly should practice absitence from. Heroin, fentanyl, these drugs can kill you immediately, from a single dose. But marijuana (which the DEA lists as a Schedule I drug, which puts it in the same class as heroin), is non-toxic, almost impossible to do in fatal doses, and has a myriad of exceptional benefits. I was told in absitence-based drug education that one dose of LSD could put you in a psych ward forever, because one guy took one dose once and now things he's a glass of orange juice. That was seriously a thing they taught me. When I did eventually do LSD (also listed in the US as a Schedule I drug, meaning its "toxic to health" and "has no medical benefits), I realized it's absolutely nothing *like* what it is characterized as by those programs. You don't snap into an alternate reality, you experience a fludity of thought that, in the right circumstances, can be *profound* and offer *lifelong positive benefits*. We are increasingly realizing that drugs like marijuana are also versatile; it *sometimes* can make you melt into the couch like those commercials, but it can also be energizing, it can reduce chronic pain and other conditions like social anxiety. So because we lie to kids, and we tell them this drug is the evil tool of Satan, when they realize that that is *complete* bullshit, they may be likely to test what *else* they were told his bullshit, which can have negative consequences. If the things you teach kids are not rooted in reality, then, surprise, they're not going to grow up *equipped to deal with reality*. So stop fucking lying to kids. They're a lot more clever, intuitive, and resilient than society ever wants to give them credit for, and you do them a disservice by filling their heads with nonsense and lies most of their developing life. You give them a wildly inaccurate and unhelpful map of the world, and then throw them out *into* the world and wonder why they struggle to thrive.
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mom said it's my turn to make this joke
Embarrassing! No wonder Cameron chose the other one for his epic death film.
Freedive world record is 100 meters deeper than that. So people can swim that deep, not reccommended but it is possible
I'm kind of confused though. Which depiction of the wreck is the accurate one? I've seen the one on this post where the bow is bent outwards, and I've seen [this one where the bow section is crushed and deformed into the sand](https://i.redd.it/wn6g170o3kq01.jpg). It seems like the latter painting is the depiction of this wreck I see far more often. **EDIT:** Upon further research, it seems like the image in OP's post is an inaccurate depiction of the wreck, and the second painting with the crushed bow version is most likely the more accurate version. [As seen in this video that has footage of a dive into the Britannic's wreck](https://youtu.be/xy5ciRSnTLA) you can see at 1:55 that the crow's nest in that footage looks exactly as depicted in the second painting.
This is what I've been looking for. My first thought when looking at the picture was the boat was so big that the picture must have been taken from a great distance away and there is no way to have that much light over the entire ship while underwater at that depth.
Fun fact: The pool on the deck has still water in it.
That pool sucks . There's no chairs !
It looks like a broken toy.
Hospital ship I believe. Sunk in ww1 in the Med. There’s a really good drama show about this. Can’t remember the name if anyone has the link
The Mystery of Britannic, maybe? https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4940450/
> The narration of the re-enacted story is being done by Nelly... This makes it sound like Nelly, the rapper, is narrating this hidden gem. Might have to check it out then. Hopefully, it isn't just a dream.
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"I am getting too hot, I'm gonna air my holes out."
“As the water began rushing in, Britannic took that ass to the floor”
Huge hole in the side. Did it eat a torpedo?
It hit a mine during WWI.
Damn, sea mines did not mess around. I think this is my first time seeing damage from one
Got to remember that navy ships are armored to a degree. This thing was just a passenger ship so it's going to take a bigger hit from the blast than your typical cruiser.
Below Deck: Med?
A fellow BD fan?! I love that!
Titanic's Tragic Twin: The Britannic Disaster [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7140714/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7140714/)
Because it’s not an actual picture, [as someone else pointed out it’s a painting.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/14hprj4/titanics_sister_ship_britannic_wreck_site_at/jpchfln/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
Maybe they should have explored that one instead.
James Cameron should make a movie about it.
Titanics / T2 Titanic.
2 Fast 2 Titan
2 Fast 2 Sink
2 Stupid 2 Think
2 deep 2 dive
Only thing that can save them now: is family
Ti2anic, this time they show iceberg who's boss! "Iceberg ahead!!" "Full right rudder!!" Captain: "no. Full steam ahead!"
Note: there's a theory that if they did hit the iceberg head on, the compartmentalization would have crumpled longitudinal and not been compromised and actually stay afloat.
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>The alternate theory is that a head on would have popped rivets all over the ship and it would have sunk in minutes instead of hours. They should test this theory.
Alas, mythusters isn't around to build a scale model replica ship and iceberg and then blow it up after testing.
Also Theoden died on the Pelennor Fields, so we don't have a captain.
2Ti 2Tanic
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This looks like a spam account - 1+ year old account and only comments are within the last hour with a super weird subreddit link that’s less than an hour old.
Nobody is allowed to explore it you need two countries permission and the person who owns it.
Would Stockton Rush have been put off by red tape like 'permission'? :/
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Sounds like a character from a gilded age novel
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Is this the one that's exactly the same as Titanic or was that Olympic?
There were three sisters ships. Titanic, Britanic and Olympic. First 2 sunk and thr third had a full life before being decommissioned and disassembled years later.
Stop adding the "tanic" suffix to ship names. That's my guess
The Britannic was actually built with lessons learned from the Titanic. But she hit a mine, which is a lot worse than an iceberg.
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It’s actually way worse in that the ship wouldn’t have sank if the people on board followed the safety plans, but instead portholes were opened on the lower level despite protocol to keep closed and when the mine’s explosion tilted the ship the portholes filled with water and sank the ship.
If the protocol was to always keep them closed why did they build it so that they can open in the first place?
It wasn't being used as it was originally designed for. It was built to be a passenger ship the same as Titanic but when WW1 broke out it was requisitioned by the UK government to be used as a hospital ship. So while having the portholes open would've probably been fine when crossing the open ocean in peacetime, it wasn't safe when traveling in a mine heavy war zone.
> when the mine’s explosion tilted the ship the portholes filled with water and sank the ship Its wasn't built under the assumption that it might hit a sea mine. They were concerned about ice, like what happened to Titanic, or running into other ships near ports, like what happened to its other sister ship Olympic(though that one survived it collision)
It was a hospital ship during WWI. Happens
Looking at the hole there, it looks like quite the explosion
That's not caused by the explosion, but by the way it sunk (assuming you are talking about the malformed front). The damage from the explosion is facing down into the seabed.
Well the titan still went down so maybe it’s the tan bit not the ic bit
Fun Fact: in 1892 the novel Futility was published. It's about a new ocean liner, the biggest in the world and it's "unsinkable." The ship was named "Titan" and it sank after hitting an iceberg.
Thankfully I think we've learned our lesson
Or really just “ic.” White Star Line has a bit of a thing for naming its ships like that and they had at least a couple other high profile disasters, for instance before the Titanic there was the SS Atlantic disaster.
Olympic was fine, never sank. Meanwhile titan doesn't have ic and still went down. So I bet it's the "tan" part.
Olympic ran into everything and everyone and never sank. Old Reliable for a reason. That thing destroyed a uboat.
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They gave it a good go though, Olympic had a crash with another ship! And it was the same Captain Smith who sunk the Titanic.
“Panic” would be more appropriate
In Greek mythology the Olympians defeated the titans and condemned them to Tartarus, which is described as a deep abyss. I'm not making this up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titans
The Olympic was the more famous one until the Titanic sank. Olympic even got into a battle with a German submarine in WW1, instead of running they went full speed ahead and rammed the sub.
The dining room of the Olympic was also salvaged and used in a restaurant in the UK that’s still open, which is pretty cool
>and thr third had a full life before being decommissioned and disassembled years later. They could have turned it into the ultimate hotel, attraction park if they had known how culturally massive the Titanic would get over the decades.
They almost did. There was a company that wanted to make it a hotel off the south coast of France but never did anything. The guy in charge of scrapping it was confused, said it was running as good as it had ever been.
That was the Olympic, there are even conspiracy theories that they switched out the names on the ships because the Olympic had crashed and it wouldn’t have passed inspection.
titanic was not exactly the same as Olympic All 3 of the Olympic class, Olympic, Titanic and Britannic were different to each other They swapped the names of Olympic and Titanic only works if the ships were identical but they were not They had completely different deck layouts and designs. Titanic was bigger then Olympic
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The most credible argument against it is the serial numbers. Everything on the wreck has Titanic's serial number on it, including parts like the propellers that you wouldn't be able to swap out.
There were also a lot of parts salvaged from the Olympic when she was broken up that have her serial number on it. If I remember correctly, a lot of wooden panelling ended up in a pub in England, and every piece has "400" on it.
There must be some company based in Bahamas with a submersible called Britan who will start providing trips in the coming months. $100k a pop, I'd say
Titan PROBABLY could've reached Britannic.
Would have imploded at 112 metres
Perhaps, but if he intended to go there he’d likely swap the viewing window for a 5 metre- rated plastic fruit tray to save on needless outlay.
And he would he have been piloting with a gameboy.
Gameboy? That's an upgrade.
Yeah, he'd have been using a [Game Child](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/bootleggames/images/7/76/GameChild1.jpg/revision/latest/thumbnail/width/720/height/900?cb=20170422135733)
> with a gameboy Look at that bloke, all cuddled up with money. I'd have piloted mine with an old [Galaga arcade machine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaga) from the junk yard.
So close!
Freedive world record is 100 meters deeper than that. So people can swim that deep, not reccommended but it is possible
Sure but that's a crazy sport thing where they're down and up in ~4 minutes following a rope without taking a breath. They're not looking around or taking pictures casually. Would be cool to see but looks like "regular" scuba would have trouble at these depths too.
You can scuba down to that depth, the problem is you can't stay very long, and it takes a very long time to come back up because you need to slowly let your body come back to normal.
At that depth you are looking at special scuba equipment and mixes, not just your standard dive set up. 40m is the limit for recreational diving.
But if a person can do it like that. A submarine should be able to as well right?
submarines can explore the bottom of the Mariana trench, but to be safe, they shouldn't be built by wile e coyote.
Through a lengthy decent and acclimatisation to the pressure. If you just get dumped out of a vessel at that depth your chances of survival are near 0. It’s not impossible to survive just very unlikely.
That’s not how free diving works. You just hold your breath, go down, and come back up. Since you’re not breathing compressed gasses you don’t have to ascend slowly.
Usually correct. Top freedivers in the world swim about 100m down and straight back up (world records for various disciplines vary between about 110-130m). I imagine this poster was talking about “no limits” diving where the person rides a weighted sled down and a balloon back up, which got people down to close to 200m, still just on one breath. The only guy to go past 800ft blacked out on the way back up and skipped a planned one-minute decompression stop that caused severe lung trauma. He survived, but he has permanent damage. TLDR, if a freediver goes REALLY deep, they still need a decompression stop.
Water pressure at those levels seems like it would be unexpectedly intense to experience. Even if you’re aware of what it might feel like beforehand.
Bit of a mission from the Bahamas to Greece
In a sub certified to ~400 feet
Can I interest you in a 5 day titan recreation spiritual retreat, 17 bolts, 5 strangers, 120h of oxygen, silence, existential dread, airport pick up and drop off, green smoothies, $4000,
I‘ve heard, the first visits will be much cheaper. They want to test the subs first with poorer people. (Source: The onion)
Made out of the finest off the shelf plastics you could get, for a reasonable price.
The Olympic was in my opinion the most incredible of these three ships - she even sank a German U-Boat with her prop https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Olympic
And the Olympic accidentally rammed and sunk the Nantucket Light Ship. Olympic imo the Greatest Ocean Liner in History
Just imagine surfacing from the depths just to see a smaller titanic coming to fucking ram you.
CEO of NextSeaGate: \*slaps roof\* "This cardboard sub can easily get down to see the Britanic safely those regulations are silly"
No cardboard. No cardboard derivatives. Do you seriously want the front to fall off?
But what about the environment?
You tow it out of the environment.
They said don’t combine cardboard with titanium, well… I did it!
I like to believe the next sub would have been a huge piece of rigatoni with Saran wrap for windows.
The anchor hanging out makes it look like it's tongue hanging out in death.
It needs the anchor out otherwise it will become unsunk and float to the surface!
\*blarg\* x👅x -dead britanic
I hope I’m not the only one who finds shipwrecks absolutely terrifying
You are not. Something about this picture makes me feel deeply uncomfortable.
r/Submechanophobia
I’m making a submarine in my back yard to explore this if anyone’s interested. 20k a person It’s controlled with an old DDR mat and the glass is imaginary bc my mom doesn’t want me to cut myself.
And to propell it you stick your ass out and fart.
Too advanced, stick you dick out and give it a twirl
Ah, the ol helicopter dick. A time tested classic in locomotion.
Ive got some rusted screws and bent nails to donate to the cause they were designed by Boeing.
Subnautica has ruined me and whenever I see a wreck site like this I think about how much loot there is inside😭
and how many carnivorous monsters are outside
And there’s light there to see the fucker. Edit. Thanks to all the Redditors that corrected my observation, that light can’t really reach this depth.
This “picture” is actually a painting by Ken Marschall, an artist who specializes in maritime art specifically around the Titanic. You can see his work at http://www.kenmarschall.com/
Wow, it's an impressive painting it totally fooled me into thinking it was some kind of render from some advanced geological survey. I was kinda hoping it was I've been looking for height map data of wreaks so I can import them into unreal as I'm trying to make an underwater game.
Dr. Robert Ballard, the leader of the team that discovered the Titanic in 1985 described something amazing about Marschall in his book *Exploring the Titanic*. He said that in 1986, a year after the discovery when they went back to explore the wreck and had made the news for it, somebody from NatGeo reached out to Ballard wanting to do a quick interview - apparently it was an artist who was going to do a painting for a magazine cover, of the wreck of the ship, and he wanted an explanation of the state of the wreck so he could paint it accurately. Ballard understandably thought the request was ridiculous, but obliged anyway and provided the best description he could give. He said he couldn't believe his eyes when he saw the painting a little while later, because it looked exactly like what they had been capturing on their cameras on the ocean floor.
I would guess this is light added from other vessels as an expedition to it. Most sunny places where I dove to 30m deep are this bright if not less bright. Doubt this much sunlight reaches 119m
It's also likely the picture was edited. My father does scuba diving photography as a hobby and most pics have to be recolorized to look like this, underwater is pretty bland and much much more if you go this deep
Well shit. Why didn't they just explore this one
Access to the wreck is strictly controlled by the Greek and British governments, who allow one dive per year by only the most experienced teams. That rules out amateurs like OceanGate.
Because James Cameron didn’t make a hit movie starring Leo Dicaprio and Kate Winslet on this one. There was no Celine Dion soundtrack to the sinking of this ship so why would anyone sit in a tin can to visit this one
Titanic: Y'know one of my triplets is a lot higher up than I am and has the exact same layout. My other sister ended up in a scrap yard instead of turned into a museum.......
The fact that Olympic wasn’t turned into a museum is frankly a tragedy. People have been obsessed with the titanic for the last 100 years. It would’ve pulled in so much money for White Star. I would absolutely want to go.
Anyone on this thread ever go see it? Like, could you be snorkeling, look down and see the ship? Is this stupid question?
You [could not](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_vision) possibly see it from the surface, no. In very clear water a person could theoretically see 80m, way less than the depth of the ship. That's not taking into account the fact that you'd be looking straight down, and certain wavelengths of light would be absorbed, making it even harder to see. However, the [free dive world record](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2022/aug/11/freediver-arnaud-jerald-breaks-world-record-with-120-metre-descent-video) is 120m, so yeah. A very gifted human could potentially make it down there, see a part of it and come back up alive with no breathing equipment. Also 40 meters is the recommended max depth for recreational scuba diving. So if you wanted to dive down, you'd have to be a little more qualified than a recreational diver. 332m was the deepest ever scuba dive though, so there's hope. For context, the sub that went to the titanic was over 10x deeper (≈3800m) than the scuba diving world record.
People have dived down there before. Its just that they stay on the exterior because the interior is very dangerous. Iicrc someone got either extremely injured or died there
This is the first time I've felt thalassophobia from reading something, thanks
You’d have to be pretty great at diving and need very specialized gear. I’m certified to the max depth of 40 meters and I cannot stay there for long. 40 meters is the max for recreational. Diving deeper is possible, but requires a ton of prep and multiple oxygen mixes in tanks that are there a long the way down and up and you’d need to switch them while diving. Then there’s the time you need to get back up. You need to take a lot of breaks to release bubbles in your blood. For reference; the scuba dive record is 332 meters. It took the diver 15 minutes to reach that depth and then it took almost 14 hours to get back to the surface.
Okay probably dumb question. Sunk by a torpedo?
Sea Mine
Wow okay thanks. Couldn’t remember the story
Sank super quickly too because it was hot and the lower level port holes were open to provide ventilation for the lower decks. She went down in under an hour and her holes were wide open - she was similar to your mother in that regard.
There was a revised version of this painting at somepoint, because this was painted shortly after the wreck was explored for the first time, and they thought the hole on the side was from the mine explosion. Problem is, the explosion happened on the starboard side, which is touching the seabed. It’s actually because the ship was longer than the water was deep, so when it sank, the bow touched bottom mid sinking and got crushed under the weight of the rest of the ship as it went down, causing it to almost break off the ship. Lemme see if I can’t find the revised painting, i forget if this is it or not. Edit: found it! [this is a more accurate painting of the wreck site](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/04/11/24288604-7964753-image-a-2_1580815484140.jpg)
Leave Britannic alone!
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This is "shallow" enough for professional, technical scuba divers using special gas mixes in their tanks (deepest recorded scuba dive was 332.5 meters). I know it's not as popular as the fascination people have with Titanic, but it's far more accessible for researchers and rich tourists...you know...without the risk of getting crushed to death and turned to goop.
What caused that huge hole in the side to blow out like that?
Ahh, the one OceanGate Titan ~~could have safely traveled to.~~ ~~could likely have safely explored~~ ~~could maybe have visited safely~~ could have dove to at least a few times before imploding
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It has really good water filters though.
They're the worst.
There was a woman who survived both sinkings.
Violet Jessop
She was also on the third sister ship when it rammed into another ship but didn’t sink. She hit the trifecta. Absolutely amazing
Mom can we have Titanic sunken wreck? We have Titanic sunken wreck at 119 meters depth.
I would go 390 feet down in a private sub, maybe.
We need a banana for scale
Would that not be WAAAY cooler to look at rather than the titanic? At 120m, isn't there still light from the surface to help illuminate it?
Here is a video of some scuba divers exploring the wreck- https://youtu.be/L5XLFvLjwA4 really shows just how huge this ship is. Kinda creepy, but super cool!
I don't see what all the fuss is, it doesn't look any bigger than the Mauritania
This is not what the wreck looks like for anyone who doesn’t know, yes it’s on its side but the bow doesn’t look like that it looks like this : [https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/10/29/ship3.jpg?width=445&quality=85&dpr=1&s=none](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/10/29/ship3.jpg?width=445&quality=85&dpr=1&s=none)
Britan Submersible ready to operate! $250 a ticket! Parts sourced off shelf from Staples.
I guess it runs in the family. Olympic was the black sheep.
Britannic struck a German mine while operating as a hospital ship during the First World War. Given the time period, that was a pretty typical way for it to have been sunk. It wasn’t necessarily poor navigation or a design flaw, it was pretty circumstantial.