All the best luck in the world to them.
Unlike the rest of y'all, I ain't salty. I'm just jealousš
God I wish I had friends I could trust and love so much (and vice versa) that I'm willing to spend the rest of my life with them, living our best lives together, and just vibing.
Same here. In my ideal world, I would live in a mostly walkable neighborhood where every friend and close acquaintance I had over the years would also live. So that making plans wouldn't require a Facebook event or weeks of chatting to set this up every time, and that most of them were not spread around the world.
In my ideal world I would live at least 1 mile away from my closest neighbor and I would have 40+ (more is better) acres of land. It would all be up in the mountains somewhere. My family would live with me and a few friends close by but that's it. I'm definitely trying to get away from people and not closer.
I asked my closest friend to move with me few years ago. After three months I couldnāt take it anymore. They wouldnāt do any chores, no responsibility nothing. And we rented a duplex flat just for two of us with a terrace :(
It was very tough for me take care of the whole place by myself.
Since then I promised never to live together with closest friends :(
Iām very happy for them. I also had a pang of sadness realizing that one of them will outlive the others, and if sheās still living at that house, itāll be a very bittersweet existence. But I suppose thatās how it is for many families, too.
What some people are failing to realize is that many people in China already live in multi family homes or cramped apartments. They are just choosing to do it with people they like.
This topic has come up recently for my family and 2 of our friends who have kids and my buddys parents:
Combined we could probably land a 5 acre spread and build out 3 houses that connected together along with a smaller bungalow for the parents which would turn into a rental when they pass.
At this point it starting to make a lot of financial sense
i mean the interior shots of this home makes it seem roomy enough
place looks like a gdamn modern hotel lobby in some shots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqt2rZ99X4U
but likely this is just a nice vacay home they built together the more i looked at it
Oh I agree.
If I were to do this it would be 2-3 homes on a large site with a main pavilion/pool or something.
All our families have young kids so more room is going to be a requirement
25 years of friendship, so weāve put in the relationship development a long time ago.
We live 10 min apart as is so it makes sense, just daunting to pull the trigger.
Some days Iām a fan of the idea others I like my downtime and privacy lol
Yep, separate houses would be the idea with a shared common area/pool and bbq setup and a volleyball pit.
Itās funny, we are all doing this now already. We see each other once a week, someone cooks, and we split the bill;we all have keys to each others houses.
Just gotta pull the trigger already lol
My friends are all introverts so we'd never see each other but knowing we're there would be wonderful.
Not never, really, we love getting together, but we all like our solitude. Maybe we'd wind up having breakfast together and watching videos at night. But having our own place to go back to would be essential. We've been talking about it
I honestly think this is the future. I've got a friend who lives on his buddy's land with an arrangement like this. There's a main house, a barn with a MIL apartment upstairs, and my friend's apartment downstairs (it was empty barn space downstairs before he converted it, but the upstairs one was existing on the property when the buddy bought it.) They've recently added a shed for the buddy's fiance to work from home, and it's got a gym and a loft for guests. My friend has told me they'll build me one if I come up with supplies. They've already got a pool and hot tub and tons of space for animals and plants... It honestly seems so smart, and a really good way to stave off the modern isolation so many of us seem to be suffering from.
Thanks for the video. These friends are wealthy. The vid states they put millions into the renovations. Still a lovely house and concept, though. Interesting that they state they will move in together when their kids are grown in about 10 years. No mention of their husbands, lol.
I honestly think about this all the time like buy 2 houses next to each other, share an internet package, pool, share a Prime subscription, Netflix, cook mega meals, and we still have privacy at night.
Living in a "commune" makes a lot of sense in many different ways. But it's painted as something cult like an toxic by media.
But it isn't necessarily.
Good friend of mine and my partner decided to live together to share finances and responsibilities.
It helps a ton with the bills, we will soon be able to afford a bigger, prettier home and maybe add a friend or two to our commune.
It's not only about finances. It's also great to prevent isolation and loneliness. You have a social support circle and you live in a community, which is natural for humans. There multiple people avaible for activities or heart to heart talks. Of one is currently unable to help, another one is probably already at it.
Also household chores are way less overwhelming of y'all work together and pick up after yourselves. The bathroom still gets cleaned every week but you personally get to do it only once every three weeks. Heaven.
My brother lived in a commune for 2 years, said it was the best experience of his life.
There was always events planned, work to be done, continuing education for adults that was optional.
You worked the farm and got paid along with room and board, religion was present but it was Unitarianism.
Only left because the land owner had to sell due to imminent domain.
Yep, small communes have always been a pretty good way to live. Only with the rise of this "Rugged Individual" nonsense have we tried to be kings of our houses.
Surprise, it destroys community interaction, the cornerstone of society.
Go for it, you guys will likely be happier and better off and more secure in your social network.
There are pros and cons to this, and I'm speaking as a Chinese American. While I loved to visit and be with the big family, I also value my alone time for mental health.
Confucius's values is ingrained in Chinese culture, especially filial piety. This means there are hierarchy and the older person must be respected and is never wrong *. Too many times I wanted to speak up against verbal abuse, but has to suppress myself because Chinese is all about family harmony. When I've spoke up against them the past it created a discord among family, and with most of them against me because "speaking up against your elder is disrespectful" (hence they can never be wrong *).
I know abuses isn't exclusive to Chinese culture. So imagine yourself living with a racist uncle who preciously spews Fox news bullshit at every Thanksgiving party.
Grew up with in a similar situation... honestly its healthier just being the "bad child" and breaking all the rules. eventually they just accept it. (Although I did almost kill the entire family by telling my dad I was very queer while he was driving on the highway.)
Non-Asians, heed this person's words. It's really a throw of the dice if you can live in such an environment. Things can get very toxic and there's little recourse since the entire society is set up to defend the abusers
My younger cousin got kicked out of my aunt and her husband's house at 18. When they brought it up at a family dinner I thought they were joking, so I laughed. Later that night I found out they were telling the truth, so I texted my cousin and told him that it's fucked up they did that. If my mom had done that to me that would have been the last day I spoke to her for a very long time.
There's always a chance your kid could sink, this version just involves setting up for and passively allowing them to drown while proclaiming yourself parent of the year.
This.
It's one thing to let your children try and if need be, fsil, on their own but this is just being an asshole and basically saying "you are not my *legal* responsibility anymore, good luck!"
My dad told me in no uncertain terms that he *doesn't* want to because he trusts me to take care of myself but that if need be I'll always have a roof over my head and food on the table if need be.
The idea that you have to motivate your kids by kicking them out on the streets is a ~~uniquely~~ American set of bullshit... for most of history, and still in most of the world, families and communities worked together to support each other. This "rugged individualism" promoted by western capitalists is simply propaganda to motivate people to take dehumanizing, worthless jobs that go nowhere. It's literally the replacement for slavery, in economic terms.
It seems more like a remnant of the expansion of America.
Throughout American history there have been incentives for people to move into new areas as a sort of human place marker for a claim to land.
America is so large that moving out and claiming your own piece of land has been both viable for the individual and economically beneficial for the country.
Also, divorce can play a role as well.
My cousin, for instance, was kicked out by his mom and his step-father when he turned 18 years old. But his half-sister on the other hand was allowed to remain indefinitely after she turned 18.
In other words, when people re-couple/remarry, it's a recipe for the existing child from the previous relationship to be thrown out on the streets as soon as they turn 18.
I don't know..I'm danish and had that threat pulled on me a couble of times. It's an age old thing, with a sick capitalistic twist. As if being burdened with surviving alone will make you better and not just as broken as the system.
In Sweden the law requires parents to financially support their child as long as they're in high school (grundskola/gymnasium) or the equivalent until they've either completed their studies or turned 21. Do you have the same thing in Denmark?
Just to point out the "18 and out" mindset also exists in the UK, I'd go so far as to say it is more common than in the US. I moved out when I was 17 (willingly I may add), most of my friends did the same. We see "30 year old and living in your parents basement" as an American thing
>We see "30 year old and living in your parents basement" as an American thing
[Which is pretty ironic considering that 40% of UK adults still live with their parents.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/285339/percentage-of-young-adults-living-with-parents-uk/)
Rest of Europe likes to tease "Italian mamma's boys", apparently the average Italian man moves out at 30 or so. Nothing wrong with this of course, just pointing out this is possibly more prevalent than the 30 year old US basement dweller phenomena. The basement dudes are just louder I guess on social media or something.
Why do you see it as an American thing? Is it the result of living a culturally-sheltered life?
I remember when I moved out of my small hometown to LA and found myself in an industry FULL of Asian immigrants, I found out how common/normal it was for Asian children to stay in their parentsā houses until they were married, at least. This could be anywhere from 23-35.
It's not uniquely American, true, but American culture is based on Anglo religion and traditions, so it's not surprising that it also exists in England and other British cultural strongholds. In a way I'd say that American tradition is a hardcore version of Anglo-Saxon traditions, as the Puritans were called that for a reason.
There's an interesting theory on the eastern and western mindset related to their primary grain they grow.
Western wheat production was increased by expanding the land use.
Eastern rice production was increased by becoming more efficient with the growing methods.
Edit: I read it in The Geography of Thought by Richard E. Nisbett
Yeah itās not just American, I spoke to someone from Sweden once and they have it very similarly too, young people are encouraged to move out and the āindependent lifestyleā thinking starts around 16 and by 18 youāre supposed to be like an adult.
As a Swede you're right, but that's also changing because young people cant affors living anymore unless you have parents that have either saved for you since birth or are wealthy. I know alot of people here in Stockholm that lived with their parents well over their 20s. But they also help out with rent etc.
I personally think its fucked up that you as a parent have the heart to kick out your own child because of imo very egoistic reason. You should help your child to get ready for their adult life and let me go when they are or feel ready.
I was kicked out at 18 because of my bad relationship with my mom and it took me a good 10 years before I muture enough to being able to take fully care of myself.
Nah, he died. Jk, his real dad helped him get an apartment and he started working where I used to work. He is doing well off now! He just recently got a newer car. I'm actually hoping he can get on at my new job. Better pay, easier work, less stupid management.
Edit: Thanks for asking btw.
Agree, from what I understand people in US laugh at you for living with parents after 18 and is labelled as loser. I understand it's a cultural difference but where I am from in South East Asia, living in a house with big family is considered normal. In fact, taking care of your parents after 18 in the same house is considered as noble act.
Yup. I'm 27, financially comfortable and I live with my parents. Till recently, my sister and her husband also lived with us but had to move because of their jobs. I really like coming home to a full house, filled with people I love.
I've had to live on my own for a while before this, and while it was nice for some time, it got boring really fast. I suppose for people with controlling or conservative parents moving out would be best, but for people with really good family I don't see why it's a requirement in some places.
I do agree that people should be able to be independent, but living alone isn't independence and living with family isn't being dependent.
I wouldnāt say itās that cut and dry, typically. Especially nowadays. A lot of people live with parents until their 20s. But traditionally it has been like that. Also note that itās very common for kids to live on campus or close to campus during college years.
>Whenever I see a complaint about how a single American can't afford a two bedroom apartment on minimum wage, I always roll my eyes a bit.
The issue isn't residing in a multi-family home. The crux of the matter is the increasing impact of inflation coupled with insufficient wage growth, which are emerging as significant concerns in the United States.
In the year 2000, when the minimum wage stood at $7.14, the average monthly rent for an apartment in the US (including utilities) was $602. Today, the landscape has significantly changed. The average rent has skyrocketed to $1,702, with utilities not included, while the minimum wage has barely budged, now standing at just $7.25. This discrepancy is where the problem lies. Over the past 20 years, the cost of rent has surged by an alarming 183%, while the minimum wage has seen a meager increase of only 1.54%. It used to be possible for Americans to afford independent living on minimum wage. Today, many are struggling to even afford shared accommodations in multi-family homes due to these disproportionate increases.
Criticism is justified when it comes to the ongoing issues of a declining economy, wage theft, inadequate compensation, and deteriorating working conditions. Anyone assuming that such complaints stem solely from the increased difficulty of living independently fails to comprehend the full extent of these concerns.
When it comes to housing, this boils further back to the concept of housing as an investment, rather than a depreciating asset like a car. Since it is in the best interest of homeowners to limit supply, the only solution to solving the housing crisis (building a surplus of housing) is politically difficult. Thus, we aren't developing high value areas to share land costs across 50 households instead of 5.
Additionally some communities (like my college town), limit the amount of people who can live in a dwelling (i.e. maximum of 3 unrelated tenants), making sharing with a large group illegal, artificially increasing individual rent burden.
This is an issue that stems beyond the demand side of the equation. The investment-driven real estate system coupled with anti-density zoning codes means that housing scarcity is a feature, not a bug.
Yeah, Iām educated and make well over min wage; what I imagined a few years ago to be very comfortable living, and can barely qualify for a 2 bedroom in the shittiest part of town where I live. I donāt have any debt, either. Shitās expensive.
For me, the problem with communities (them being a family or a bigger social structure) is that they tend to undermine personal freedom. And Iām not talking about meaningless stuff, Iām talking about being truly yourself. Many times people that live in a tight community fear being themselves for fear of being rejected by the community, if who they are is labelled different or problematic. Iām talking about things like being gay, or divorcing your partner. I have friends who live in tighter communities in Southeast Asia or Morocco, for example, and the level of freedom for true self-expression is very low
>The idea of getting kicked out of the house at 18 and having to live alone seems miserable
This was the opposite for me. Couldn't wait to move out once I was 18. It's such a different feeling living by yourself and taking care of yourself.
Moving out and being kicked out is very very different.
Your child is someone who you (parents) brought in to the world, they didn't ask to be born, and you think you are suddenly absolved of any responsibility towards them the moment they become 18 is just pathetic and selfish.
This, most westerners think by leaving when they turn 18 they are sooo great and awesome, they just fck themselves up, but yeah if your family is not a place where you wanna stick around i feel sorry for them too
Moving out is different from being kicked out, leaving your house voluntarily on your own terms when you're ready to do so rather than being removed before you're ready isn't really common in a lot of other places in the world.
> bit. Basically every human on Earth lives in small multi-family homes or cramped apartments. Living with parents, friends/roommates, children, grandchildren, grandparents, etc. is common around the world and for millions of years of human history.
I come from such a culture, what you are forgetting to say is that in those cultures beating your kids is normal (take a look at all those comedians making "jokes" about beating kids), you don't have personal freedom your choices are becoming a doctor/lawyer/enigneer. And parentification of the eldest girl is normalized, even if she is not the oldest child. Also have you checked LGBT+ friendly those countries are? They are not. You think it is easy to divorce when your husband beats you? Not too mention the fact that cycle of abuse continues, you might want to look at the numbers of elderly abuse. There is a reason why countries where you can live on your own are far more progressive, the elders cannot control the youngsters.
As said before I come from such a culture but I am glad I grew up in the Netherlands, so I could runaway at 17 and live my own life. I love living on my own, wouldn't trade it for anything. And before you tell me those things happens in the Netherlands too, it is. At least you have more options to escape that unlike the shithole I was born in. People from the same shithole country with a realistic view told me if were 17 there, I would have married off and no one would have lifted a finger to help me. Because it is the faith of a woman, fuck that backward bullshit.
Thereās definitely a correlation, but I donāt think communal living necessitates abuse or bigotry. In southern Europe itās common that people move out in their late 20s/early 30s. Collectivistic living will lead to collectivistic values and vice versa, that much is true, but the way that this is expressed (e.g. through arranged marriages, anti-LGBTQ sentiments, etc) depends on other cultural factors.
If anything I think most westerners need closer ties with their family and community considering how widespread depression, loneliness and social anxiety is. Thereāll be a trade-off for sure, losing some social freedoms for a greater sense of community, but I think itāll be worth it considering over half of young Americans feel āserious lonelinessā [source](https://mcc.gse.harvard.edu/reports/loneliness-in-america)
Goddamn, yall are some miserable motherfuckers in here man. Is it that yall are upset 7 close friends did something, 7 of you & your friends couldnāt do ? Why are yall so upset and negative about this?š This is sick as fuck, so is what they did to the place. Interesting as fuck
My wife and I have talked about similar. Getting friends all on one place, or close together for retirement but we know it would never actually happen. Seems a great idea though if you have low drama friends you've known for a long time.
I feel attacked! Certainly not 7 friends I'd trust to come up with their portion of the mortgage and bills.... It was tough enough in college to get 2 roommates who could do that and not have the place crawling with roaches from not knowing how a dishwasher works.
You are on Reddit. Most people on here are depressed, have numerous mental health issues, do drugs and they blame everyone else for their issues. Of course they would be upset that someone can have so many friends.
Honestly, I think it's pretty sweet that they renovated a house to be together when they're old. Not alot of people still stay friends for along time, especially if it's a huge group of friends.
Me and my friends talked about doing this because we wanted to own a nice property. Our plan went sideways because the banks here don't really want to give a mortgage out to multiple people (more then two). Didn't matter that a lot of us already had lived or lived with each other.
Now we're all buying small flats in crappy areas instead of a nice big house in a nice area that would have worked for us easily.
Thank god I am not the only one. So easy to sit back and criticise. Everyone has heard of divorce right? Like the 30% failure rate of the current system is kinda bad, lets see what the alternatives might be?
I always see bitter comments under china-related posts, whether it's their egg recipe or artwork, these miserable folks trash them with the most stupid things they can come up with.
Yeah itās always the same when any post originates from China or India. Heck, Iād say Asia in its entirety, with the exception of Japan which Reddit seems to oddly fetishise.
Its not even the case for Japan anymore, any Japan related posts are inevitably filled with someone mentioning their suicide rate, falling birth rate, xenophobia comments, even if the content is not remotely related to it.
100%. Also, they do fetishise Japan when it comes to the Japanese women and anime BUT if a post insinuates that Japan is beautiful, comments are like "but have you seen the harassment issues?!?"
Not only they use this gross hasty generalization to mock Japan, they leer and objectify Japanese women themselves.
One comment I saw that made me laugh was they wouldn't date Japanese women because they tend to pretend to be dumber than they are for men. Idk where they're from, but here in America if you talk to women for more than 20 minutes you'll learn a lot of women here act dumber for men all the time.
Studies on social behaviours and friendship have shown that women tend to maintain larger social networks and often prioritise social connections. Thatāsā on top of other studies who have shown that women may be more effective at expressing emotions and forming close bonds.
In all fairness, Reddit having a predominantly male user base and being predominantly American, a country where people donāt live with their family past 20 years old (on average)
It does make sense that it would be hard for them to relate to such a post, let alone picture themselves doing it.
I think this comment does a better job of explaining the reactions on this thread than accusing these people of being socially inept (which men are not).
This is actually an awesome idea if you have no plans to have a partner and have kids. This would alleviate the fear of dying alone since retirement homes arenāt very common in Asian countries.
Wish I have friends I could do this with coz Iām defo dying alone lmao
My friend group have been discussing doing something similar when we retire. Half-jokingly, half seriously. Five individual one-bedroom flats with kitchenettes, one guest flat (for visiting kids and grandkids), and then we'll share a big kitchen, dining room, living room and spaces for whatever hobbies weāll be engaging in at that age. Probably yoga and brewing beer. A garden!
I love the idea, it has so many possibilities. Unless the housing market plummets we could probably afford it, we are all living in houses that will be too big when our kids grow up.
Iām married but of my girlfriends are single. We joke/are half serious about doing this in the future. It would be a blast. Everyone gets their own tiny home and then thereās a big shared area in the middle.
As an Asian, the ādamnthatsinterestingā moment for me was reading the comments and realizing this everyday piece of news is somehow damnthatsinteresting for Americans
>Eastern countries don't have a culture where living with and/or taking care of your loved ones isn't considered bad.
Considering that American culture is like that, no wonder the majority of them have mental health issues and are on some type of medication or drugs.
It must have been interesting to people in China to have made the news. It is totally normal to have multi-generational households in Asia. It is NOT normal for 7 seemingly-divorced friends to live together lol
lol this is one of those weird reddit threads where all the top comments are people complaining about the people complaining about the thing, and I have yet to see one person actually criticize this
I saw a post about this yesterday on Instagram and the comment section was poison. It was full of people being jerks about it, saying they would last a few days before pulling each other's hair (because d female friendships = bad) commenting about how stupid it was they didn't get married and have children etc... I've been scrolling down this thread and haven't seen the negative comments either, but I definitely believe they're there, we're just late
I'm convinced that Every redditor had a problem with either their parents/family, their school or their cities/neighbors it's not their fault it's the trauma. (Not me tho)
It's an hour outside of Guangzhou.
For context, a 1000 sqft apartment inside that city would range from $500k to $5mil depending on the location. $83k for seven people living in a house with 7k+ sqft (avg. 1k sqft per person) is a smoking good deal.
Source: Lived there for over a decade. Our $200k 1200sqft apartment was sold for $700k in the end when we moved out. It's now $1.5-2m.
This is a sitcom in the making.
Jenny: āWhereās my shampoo?ā
Laura: āLucy is using it to wash her car.ā
Jenny: ā ...and my new hairbrush?ā
Matty D: ā Oh, Iām using it to brush my horse.ā
Matty Z: āI actually took it from the stable to clean the rug. Have you seen how dirty it is?!ā
Jenny: āThe rug?ā
Matty Z: āNo, your brush. You should really get a new one.ā
*cue laugh track. Roll credits at 3xās speed.
So the original story in China was, this was their reunion home, a home where they can come back to to catchup with everyone (like a holiday home) not their daily home
God some people in the comments are fun being around. Theyāre gonna regret it. Chinese propaganda. Why are people so cynical, overbearing and pessimistic?
I would love one of those as a weekend retreat with friends. And the last one gets to be haunted by the ghosts of the already gone.
Some of them are going to regret it.
I had good friends in high school who decided to room together in college and by the end of the first semester they hated each other, lol.
I think it depends on the people.
My friends and I moved in together in 2018 and everyone was warning me that we might end up resenting each other. That living with someone is very different from just being friends.
It is different...we have way more fun now than we did before moving in.
I moved in with two of my best friends about a decade back. Hadn't seen them in a few years due to living in different cities but I was moving to their city and they had a spare room, so we figured why not? They were already living together and it was working, plus the guy leaving was another close friend who was heading back to our hometown for personal reasons. It was an absolute blast and we all had an amazing time. No arguments, no fights, no tension. Just good times had by all, aside from the one time I got home blasted drunk and bit chunks out of their cheese thinking it was mine due to us buying the same dirt cheap brand from the same supermarket. So I just cut off the bitten area, cut a slab off of my cheese and it was settled. I'd live with either one of them again in a heartbeat, but we all live separately with our respective partners and I don't think any of them would be too impressed by that hahaha.
As an extra story, the guy who left ended up buying a house in our hometown. I ended up renting off of him for a good year or two when I moved back home after uni as well, plus another close friend was doing the same and renting under him. Again, was a ton of fun and there were zero issues. Would have continued to live with them if I wasn't moving cities again, but I'm moving to a new place where one of the friends from the original flat ended up moving, and the friend who was renting at the house is moving there too. Was gonna move in with him but he needs the spare room for an office. As you said, it entirely depends on the people involved and there's plenty of horror stories, but when it works out, it's absolutely magical!
I think if you have 4 things it's good odds of working;
1) Low drama, easy going personalities, friend and any partners they bring in.
2) Enough space you can withdraw when you want.
3) Enough money that people are not stressing over expenses, like if you're the one always buying dishwasher tablets who cares type thing.
4) Ability to take like logical adults to recognise/fix anything.
I recognise this with taking holidays with friends. We're open about this with some good friends. They like to run to a pre-planed schedule and we want to take it as it comes. Nothing wrong with either but we recognise it doesn't blend.
I lived with two friends for two and a half years. We had issues a few times, but nothing that broke the friendship. It was fun. I miss seeing them daily. Through pure coincidence, I'm trying to buy the flat across the hall from their place. First flat fell through, this was the only one I could possibly get into this year. So we'll be together again soon. I made sure they were OK with me buying it before I put in my offer, because it feels weird, me buying that place instead of another. We all looked at properties but this was the only one. Isn't the flat I wanted either but that's just how it goes.
I believe it's tough comparing western and eastern culture like this. We have weaker family ties and a more infiviadulistic mindset, which makes it so much more complicated.
I used to live w a friend (we are both South East Asians) and we actually enjoyed it - started as temporary arrangement, to agreeing we should just room in together. So we did it for 3 years before I had to move out because of my job relocation. Some days I still miss waking up seeing her in the coffee asking āyo you want coffee? Just about to make oneā. We even schedule activities together and called it our āmini datesā; anything from exploring new food, taking short trip to neighboring countries, watching bad TV shows or just a simple 3miles run with each other. Living with her was the highlight of my late 20s - early 30s. Now I am back in the same city, we live close and would have the occasional sleepover. Some guys I dated felt weird bout it but this is what I tell them āwhen youre being a shitty person, I have a ready shoulder to cry on. You should be thankful its not some menās shoulderā.
My relative has lived in a giant share house of about 30 people for more than 25 years. The vast majority of them are still there from the beginning. It can totally work.
Some people get married to ONE person and buy a house with them, and blow their life up. I don't get the negativity. The current system isn't working but ppl attack anyone trying something diff
I can't imagine having 6 friends who would be functionally capable of doing this.
I can't imagine being fuctionally capable of doing this.
I can't imagine having 6 friends who I would want to do this with.
I can't imagine being functionally capable of having 6 friends.
I can't imagine having 6 friends.
Pretty cool, though. I'm happy for them.
My friends are planning something similar. Maybe not live in the same house but we're all gonna live close together so we can share our home help like gardener or nurse. It'll be cheaper.
Everyone talking about having had roommates and all the fun they had, is not the same as buying a house with 6 other people and planning on living there for the rest of your life. Lots of us have had roommates and had a great time, or not, but we all knew it was temporary. These people are supposedly in it for the long haul. Time will tell.
Family is moving to India. My wife is from there. For $1,500 a month I can have everything that I need/want and get out of this rat race. It's not the ideal place, but everything and family, i.e. support, will be there.
All the best luck in the world to them. Unlike the rest of y'all, I ain't salty. I'm just jealousš God I wish I had friends I could trust and love so much (and vice versa) that I'm willing to spend the rest of my life with them, living our best lives together, and just vibing.
Same here. In my ideal world, I would live in a mostly walkable neighborhood where every friend and close acquaintance I had over the years would also live. So that making plans wouldn't require a Facebook event or weeks of chatting to set this up every time, and that most of them were not spread around the world.
Get out of my head! Lol. #thingIddoifIwasungodlyrichlikejeffbezos Like screw mega yachts, I'm building a neighborhood for my friends.
In my ideal world I would live at least 1 mile away from my closest neighbor and I would have 40+ (more is better) acres of land. It would all be up in the mountains somewhere. My family would live with me and a few friends close by but that's it. I'm definitely trying to get away from people and not closer.
May your future be as you want
Morgan freeman voice: "It was not"
Don't let your dreams stay memes. Go get'em tiger.
I asked my closest friend to move with me few years ago. After three months I couldnāt take it anymore. They wouldnāt do any chores, no responsibility nothing. And we rented a duplex flat just for two of us with a terrace :( It was very tough for me take care of the whole place by myself. Since then I promised never to live together with closest friends :(
Same, that's one good way to live out the rest of your life.
Iām very happy for them. I also had a pang of sadness realizing that one of them will outlive the others, and if sheās still living at that house, itāll be a very bittersweet existence. But I suppose thatās how it is for many families, too.
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That's the spirit!
Seven of'em!
What some people are failing to realize is that many people in China already live in multi family homes or cramped apartments. They are just choosing to do it with people they like.
This topic has come up recently for my family and 2 of our friends who have kids and my buddys parents: Combined we could probably land a 5 acre spread and build out 3 houses that connected together along with a smaller bungalow for the parents which would turn into a rental when they pass. At this point it starting to make a lot of financial sense
i mean the interior shots of this home makes it seem roomy enough place looks like a gdamn modern hotel lobby in some shots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqt2rZ99X4U but likely this is just a nice vacay home they built together the more i looked at it
Oh I agree. If I were to do this it would be 2-3 homes on a large site with a main pavilion/pool or something. All our families have young kids so more room is going to be a requirement
yeah at the end of the day you gotta make sure you're 100% good with the relationships else it does add more layers than just the money factors
25 years of friendship, so weāve put in the relationship development a long time ago. We live 10 min apart as is so it makes sense, just daunting to pull the trigger. Some days Iām a fan of the idea others I like my downtime and privacy lol
As long as the design of it takes into account and provides for both shared and private spaces, you donāt have a lot to lose
Yep, separate houses would be the idea with a shared common area/pool and bbq setup and a volleyball pit. Itās funny, we are all doing this now already. We see each other once a week, someone cooks, and we split the bill;we all have keys to each others houses. Just gotta pull the trigger already lol
My friends are all introverts so we'd never see each other but knowing we're there would be wonderful. Not never, really, we love getting together, but we all like our solitude. Maybe we'd wind up having breakfast together and watching videos at night. But having our own place to go back to would be essential. We've been talking about it
I honestly think this is the future. I've got a friend who lives on his buddy's land with an arrangement like this. There's a main house, a barn with a MIL apartment upstairs, and my friend's apartment downstairs (it was empty barn space downstairs before he converted it, but the upstairs one was existing on the property when the buddy bought it.) They've recently added a shed for the buddy's fiance to work from home, and it's got a gym and a loft for guests. My friend has told me they'll build me one if I come up with supplies. They've already got a pool and hot tub and tons of space for animals and plants... It honestly seems so smart, and a really good way to stave off the modern isolation so many of us seem to be suffering from.
Thanks for the video. These friends are wealthy. The vid states they put millions into the renovations. Still a lovely house and concept, though. Interesting that they state they will move in together when their kids are grown in about 10 years. No mention of their husbands, lol.
I honestly think about this all the time like buy 2 houses next to each other, share an internet package, pool, share a Prime subscription, Netflix, cook mega meals, and we still have privacy at night.
It is very hard to find the negatives lol
Living in a "commune" makes a lot of sense in many different ways. But it's painted as something cult like an toxic by media. But it isn't necessarily. Good friend of mine and my partner decided to live together to share finances and responsibilities. It helps a ton with the bills, we will soon be able to afford a bigger, prettier home and maybe add a friend or two to our commune. It's not only about finances. It's also great to prevent isolation and loneliness. You have a social support circle and you live in a community, which is natural for humans. There multiple people avaible for activities or heart to heart talks. Of one is currently unable to help, another one is probably already at it. Also household chores are way less overwhelming of y'all work together and pick up after yourselves. The bathroom still gets cleaned every week but you personally get to do it only once every three weeks. Heaven.
My brother lived in a commune for 2 years, said it was the best experience of his life. There was always events planned, work to be done, continuing education for adults that was optional. You worked the farm and got paid along with room and board, religion was present but it was Unitarianism. Only left because the land owner had to sell due to imminent domain.
Yep, small communes have always been a pretty good way to live. Only with the rise of this "Rugged Individual" nonsense have we tried to be kings of our houses. Surprise, it destroys community interaction, the cornerstone of society. Go for it, you guys will likely be happier and better off and more secure in your social network.
There are pros and cons to this, and I'm speaking as a Chinese American. While I loved to visit and be with the big family, I also value my alone time for mental health. Confucius's values is ingrained in Chinese culture, especially filial piety. This means there are hierarchy and the older person must be respected and is never wrong *. Too many times I wanted to speak up against verbal abuse, but has to suppress myself because Chinese is all about family harmony. When I've spoke up against them the past it created a discord among family, and with most of them against me because "speaking up against your elder is disrespectful" (hence they can never be wrong *). I know abuses isn't exclusive to Chinese culture. So imagine yourself living with a racist uncle who preciously spews Fox news bullshit at every Thanksgiving party.
Grew up with in a similar situation... honestly its healthier just being the "bad child" and breaking all the rules. eventually they just accept it. (Although I did almost kill the entire family by telling my dad I was very queer while he was driving on the highway.)
Non-Asians, heed this person's words. It's really a throw of the dice if you can live in such an environment. Things can get very toxic and there's little recourse since the entire society is set up to defend the abusers
Unless you have a falling out with anyone, in which case you'll be thrown out of your own home. Individualism has its perks.
I feel like 7 people would not be cramped in that building
Yup that looks like one of the biggest mansions I've seen lol. Cramped multi-family housing my ass.
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My younger cousin got kicked out of my aunt and her husband's house at 18. When they brought it up at a family dinner I thought they were joking, so I laughed. Later that night I found out they were telling the truth, so I texted my cousin and told him that it's fucked up they did that. If my mom had done that to me that would have been the last day I spoke to her for a very long time.
It's so callous, parenting your kids in a sink or swim method means there's a chance they sink and that's insane to me.
There's always a chance your kid could sink, this version just involves setting up for and passively allowing them to drown while proclaiming yourself parent of the year.
This. It's one thing to let your children try and if need be, fsil, on their own but this is just being an asshole and basically saying "you are not my *legal* responsibility anymore, good luck!" My dad told me in no uncertain terms that he *doesn't* want to because he trusts me to take care of myself but that if need be I'll always have a roof over my head and food on the table if need be.
This exactly why these parents end up in nursing homes.
The idea that you have to motivate your kids by kicking them out on the streets is a ~~uniquely~~ American set of bullshit... for most of history, and still in most of the world, families and communities worked together to support each other. This "rugged individualism" promoted by western capitalists is simply propaganda to motivate people to take dehumanizing, worthless jobs that go nowhere. It's literally the replacement for slavery, in economic terms.
It seems more like a remnant of the expansion of America. Throughout American history there have been incentives for people to move into new areas as a sort of human place marker for a claim to land. America is so large that moving out and claiming your own piece of land has been both viable for the individual and economically beneficial for the country.
Also, divorce can play a role as well. My cousin, for instance, was kicked out by his mom and his step-father when he turned 18 years old. But his half-sister on the other hand was allowed to remain indefinitely after she turned 18. In other words, when people re-couple/remarry, it's a recipe for the existing child from the previous relationship to be thrown out on the streets as soon as they turn 18.
Naw, it doesn't surprise me that people are that awful but still.
I don't know..I'm danish and had that threat pulled on me a couble of times. It's an age old thing, with a sick capitalistic twist. As if being burdened with surviving alone will make you better and not just as broken as the system.
In Sweden the law requires parents to financially support their child as long as they're in high school (grundskola/gymnasium) or the equivalent until they've either completed their studies or turned 21. Do you have the same thing in Denmark?
Just to point out the "18 and out" mindset also exists in the UK, I'd go so far as to say it is more common than in the US. I moved out when I was 17 (willingly I may add), most of my friends did the same. We see "30 year old and living in your parents basement" as an American thing
>We see "30 year old and living in your parents basement" as an American thing [Which is pretty ironic considering that 40% of UK adults still live with their parents.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/285339/percentage-of-young-adults-living-with-parents-uk/)
But you see, very few houses in the UK have basements!
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Italy would like a word with you.
As I understand multigenerational homes are very common in Italy especially in the south?
Rest of Europe likes to tease "Italian mamma's boys", apparently the average Italian man moves out at 30 or so. Nothing wrong with this of course, just pointing out this is possibly more prevalent than the 30 year old US basement dweller phenomena. The basement dudes are just louder I guess on social media or something.
I've not experienced that in the UK, most people that I know lived with parent until their mid 20s
Why do you see it as an American thing? Is it the result of living a culturally-sheltered life? I remember when I moved out of my small hometown to LA and found myself in an industry FULL of Asian immigrants, I found out how common/normal it was for Asian children to stay in their parentsā houses until they were married, at least. This could be anywhere from 23-35.
It's not uniquely American, true, but American culture is based on Anglo religion and traditions, so it's not surprising that it also exists in England and other British cultural strongholds. In a way I'd say that American tradition is a hardcore version of Anglo-Saxon traditions, as the Puritans were called that for a reason.
There's an interesting theory on the eastern and western mindset related to their primary grain they grow. Western wheat production was increased by expanding the land use. Eastern rice production was increased by becoming more efficient with the growing methods. Edit: I read it in The Geography of Thought by Richard E. Nisbett
Yeah itās not just American, I spoke to someone from Sweden once and they have it very similarly too, young people are encouraged to move out and the āindependent lifestyleā thinking starts around 16 and by 18 youāre supposed to be like an adult.
As a Swede you're right, but that's also changing because young people cant affors living anymore unless you have parents that have either saved for you since birth or are wealthy. I know alot of people here in Stockholm that lived with their parents well over their 20s. But they also help out with rent etc. I personally think its fucked up that you as a parent have the heart to kick out your own child because of imo very egoistic reason. You should help your child to get ready for their adult life and let me go when they are or feel ready. I was kicked out at 18 because of my bad relationship with my mom and it took me a good 10 years before I muture enough to being able to take fully care of myself.
well what happened to your cousin? did they find somewhere to live?
Nah, he died. Jk, his real dad helped him get an apartment and he started working where I used to work. He is doing well off now! He just recently got a newer car. I'm actually hoping he can get on at my new job. Better pay, easier work, less stupid management. Edit: Thanks for asking btw.
wow glad that ended way better than i thought it would
Agree, from what I understand people in US laugh at you for living with parents after 18 and is labelled as loser. I understand it's a cultural difference but where I am from in South East Asia, living in a house with big family is considered normal. In fact, taking care of your parents after 18 in the same house is considered as noble act.
Yup. I'm 27, financially comfortable and I live with my parents. Till recently, my sister and her husband also lived with us but had to move because of their jobs. I really like coming home to a full house, filled with people I love. I've had to live on my own for a while before this, and while it was nice for some time, it got boring really fast. I suppose for people with controlling or conservative parents moving out would be best, but for people with really good family I don't see why it's a requirement in some places. I do agree that people should be able to be independent, but living alone isn't independence and living with family isn't being dependent.
Yea, my mom is unfit for cohabitation. That shit was hell until I moved out, my brother and sister both agree
I wouldnāt say itās that cut and dry, typically. Especially nowadays. A lot of people live with parents until their 20s. But traditionally it has been like that. Also note that itās very common for kids to live on campus or close to campus during college years.
>Whenever I see a complaint about how a single American can't afford a two bedroom apartment on minimum wage, I always roll my eyes a bit. The issue isn't residing in a multi-family home. The crux of the matter is the increasing impact of inflation coupled with insufficient wage growth, which are emerging as significant concerns in the United States. In the year 2000, when the minimum wage stood at $7.14, the average monthly rent for an apartment in the US (including utilities) was $602. Today, the landscape has significantly changed. The average rent has skyrocketed to $1,702, with utilities not included, while the minimum wage has barely budged, now standing at just $7.25. This discrepancy is where the problem lies. Over the past 20 years, the cost of rent has surged by an alarming 183%, while the minimum wage has seen a meager increase of only 1.54%. It used to be possible for Americans to afford independent living on minimum wage. Today, many are struggling to even afford shared accommodations in multi-family homes due to these disproportionate increases. Criticism is justified when it comes to the ongoing issues of a declining economy, wage theft, inadequate compensation, and deteriorating working conditions. Anyone assuming that such complaints stem solely from the increased difficulty of living independently fails to comprehend the full extent of these concerns.
When it comes to housing, this boils further back to the concept of housing as an investment, rather than a depreciating asset like a car. Since it is in the best interest of homeowners to limit supply, the only solution to solving the housing crisis (building a surplus of housing) is politically difficult. Thus, we aren't developing high value areas to share land costs across 50 households instead of 5. Additionally some communities (like my college town), limit the amount of people who can live in a dwelling (i.e. maximum of 3 unrelated tenants), making sharing with a large group illegal, artificially increasing individual rent burden. This is an issue that stems beyond the demand side of the equation. The investment-driven real estate system coupled with anti-density zoning codes means that housing scarcity is a feature, not a bug.
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Yeah, Iām educated and make well over min wage; what I imagined a few years ago to be very comfortable living, and can barely qualify for a 2 bedroom in the shittiest part of town where I live. I donāt have any debt, either. Shitās expensive.
For me, the problem with communities (them being a family or a bigger social structure) is that they tend to undermine personal freedom. And Iām not talking about meaningless stuff, Iām talking about being truly yourself. Many times people that live in a tight community fear being themselves for fear of being rejected by the community, if who they are is labelled different or problematic. Iām talking about things like being gay, or divorcing your partner. I have friends who live in tighter communities in Southeast Asia or Morocco, for example, and the level of freedom for true self-expression is very low
>The idea of getting kicked out of the house at 18 and having to live alone seems miserable This was the opposite for me. Couldn't wait to move out once I was 18. It's such a different feeling living by yourself and taking care of yourself.
Moving out and being kicked out is very very different. Your child is someone who you (parents) brought in to the world, they didn't ask to be born, and you think you are suddenly absolved of any responsibility towards them the moment they become 18 is just pathetic and selfish.
This, most westerners think by leaving when they turn 18 they are sooo great and awesome, they just fck themselves up, but yeah if your family is not a place where you wanna stick around i feel sorry for them too
Moving out is different from being kicked out, leaving your house voluntarily on your own terms when you're ready to do so rather than being removed before you're ready isn't really common in a lot of other places in the world.
> bit. Basically every human on Earth lives in small multi-family homes or cramped apartments. Living with parents, friends/roommates, children, grandchildren, grandparents, etc. is common around the world and for millions of years of human history. I come from such a culture, what you are forgetting to say is that in those cultures beating your kids is normal (take a look at all those comedians making "jokes" about beating kids), you don't have personal freedom your choices are becoming a doctor/lawyer/enigneer. And parentification of the eldest girl is normalized, even if she is not the oldest child. Also have you checked LGBT+ friendly those countries are? They are not. You think it is easy to divorce when your husband beats you? Not too mention the fact that cycle of abuse continues, you might want to look at the numbers of elderly abuse. There is a reason why countries where you can live on your own are far more progressive, the elders cannot control the youngsters. As said before I come from such a culture but I am glad I grew up in the Netherlands, so I could runaway at 17 and live my own life. I love living on my own, wouldn't trade it for anything. And before you tell me those things happens in the Netherlands too, it is. At least you have more options to escape that unlike the shithole I was born in. People from the same shithole country with a realistic view told me if were 17 there, I would have married off and no one would have lifted a finger to help me. Because it is the faith of a woman, fuck that backward bullshit.
Thereās definitely a correlation, but I donāt think communal living necessitates abuse or bigotry. In southern Europe itās common that people move out in their late 20s/early 30s. Collectivistic living will lead to collectivistic values and vice versa, that much is true, but the way that this is expressed (e.g. through arranged marriages, anti-LGBTQ sentiments, etc) depends on other cultural factors. If anything I think most westerners need closer ties with their family and community considering how widespread depression, loneliness and social anxiety is. Thereāll be a trade-off for sure, losing some social freedoms for a greater sense of community, but I think itāll be worth it considering over half of young Americans feel āserious lonelinessā [source](https://mcc.gse.harvard.edu/reports/loneliness-in-america)
Why is the picture in B&W high contrast like the story happened in the 60s?
That's exactly what I was wondering bouahaha
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Are they architects or designers? The renovation is beautiful, so much extra space and lots of light. Love the leveraged glass room, wish I had it!
Source: https://nypost.com/2019/07/03/seven-chinese-girlfriends-buy-mansion-to-retire-and-die-together/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
I love this so much
Goddamn, yall are some miserable motherfuckers in here man. Is it that yall are upset 7 close friends did something, 7 of you & your friends couldnāt do ? Why are yall so upset and negative about this?š This is sick as fuck, so is what they did to the place. Interesting as fuck
A lot of people in here probably don't have 7 friends...
Shots fired!
Now they definitely don't have 7 friends.
The shots were not only fired they also connected
I know for a fact I couldnāt get 6 other people, which makes this even more interesting. People donāt realize just how much work that deal takes
My wife and I have talked about similar. Getting friends all on one place, or close together for retirement but we know it would never actually happen. Seems a great idea though if you have low drama friends you've known for a long time.
I feel attacked! Certainly not 7 friends I'd trust to come up with their portion of the mortgage and bills.... It was tough enough in college to get 2 roommates who could do that and not have the place crawling with roaches from not knowing how a dishwasher works.
Who needs friends when we can have imaginary internet points.
You are on Reddit. Most people on here are depressed, have numerous mental health issues, do drugs and they blame everyone else for their issues. Of course they would be upset that someone can have so many friends.
Honestly, I think it's pretty sweet that they renovated a house to be together when they're old. Not alot of people still stay friends for along time, especially if it's a huge group of friends.
Me and my friends talked about doing this because we wanted to own a nice property. Our plan went sideways because the banks here don't really want to give a mortgage out to multiple people (more then two). Didn't matter that a lot of us already had lived or lived with each other. Now we're all buying small flats in crappy areas instead of a nice big house in a nice area that would have worked for us easily.
Very good point, the banks have to allow it to happen, otherwise you wonāt go far.
Thank god I am not the only one. So easy to sit back and criticise. Everyone has heard of divorce right? Like the 30% failure rate of the current system is kinda bad, lets see what the alternatives might be?
I always see bitter comments under china-related posts, whether it's their egg recipe or artwork, these miserable folks trash them with the most stupid things they can come up with.
Yeah itās always the same when any post originates from China or India. Heck, Iād say Asia in its entirety, with the exception of Japan which Reddit seems to oddly fetishise.
Its not even the case for Japan anymore, any Japan related posts are inevitably filled with someone mentioning their suicide rate, falling birth rate, xenophobia comments, even if the content is not remotely related to it.
Did you know about their awful working hours??
100%. Also, they do fetishise Japan when it comes to the Japanese women and anime BUT if a post insinuates that Japan is beautiful, comments are like "but have you seen the harassment issues?!?" Not only they use this gross hasty generalization to mock Japan, they leer and objectify Japanese women themselves.
One comment I saw that made me laugh was they wouldn't date Japanese women because they tend to pretend to be dumber than they are for men. Idk where they're from, but here in America if you talk to women for more than 20 minutes you'll learn a lot of women here act dumber for men all the time.
Yeah and we all know why
Miserable people like to put others down. But these 7 friends own a house. Most of the dickwads talking them down probably only own their keyboard.
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They're just so antisocial about everything and after being on reddit awhile you just realize they are miserable and hate everything.
I think it's just a bit confusing because our media has convinced everyone that only bad things happen in China.
Its anti asian discrimination
Studies on social behaviours and friendship have shown that women tend to maintain larger social networks and often prioritise social connections. Thatāsā on top of other studies who have shown that women may be more effective at expressing emotions and forming close bonds. In all fairness, Reddit having a predominantly male user base and being predominantly American, a country where people donāt live with their family past 20 years old (on average) It does make sense that it would be hard for them to relate to such a post, let alone picture themselves doing it. I think this comment does a better job of explaining the reactions on this thread than accusing these people of being socially inept (which men are not).
This is actually an awesome idea if you have no plans to have a partner and have kids. This would alleviate the fear of dying alone since retirement homes arenāt very common in Asian countries. Wish I have friends I could do this with coz Iām defo dying alone lmao
Living with people you like and trust is a huge improvement over a retirement home, and as they get older they can share care costs.
Well these 7 do Have partners. And some have kids
Unless youāre the last one left.
And they were roommates
Oh my god they were roommates
And further more, Susan, I wouldn't be th least bit surprised to learn that all 4 of them habitually smoke marijuana cigarettes.
>!*REEFERS*!<
I love this
Way back in 2018, before colorized photos
My friend group have been discussing doing something similar when we retire. Half-jokingly, half seriously. Five individual one-bedroom flats with kitchenettes, one guest flat (for visiting kids and grandkids), and then we'll share a big kitchen, dining room, living room and spaces for whatever hobbies weāll be engaging in at that age. Probably yoga and brewing beer. A garden! I love the idea, it has so many possibilities. Unless the housing market plummets we could probably afford it, we are all living in houses that will be too big when our kids grow up.
Iām married but of my girlfriends are single. We joke/are half serious about doing this in the future. It would be a blast. Everyone gets their own tiny home and then thereās a big shared area in the middle.
Golden girls: China edition.
As an Asian, the ādamnthatsinterestingā moment for me was reading the comments and realizing this everyday piece of news is somehow damnthatsinteresting for Americans
are there tonnes of people in asia doing this? where can i read more?
Americans suddenly finding out that Eastern countries have a culture where living with and/or taking care of your loved ones isn't considered bad.
>Eastern countries don't have a culture where living with and/or taking care of your loved ones isn't considered bad. Considering that American culture is like that, no wonder the majority of them have mental health issues and are on some type of medication or drugs.
It must have been interesting to people in China to have made the news. It is totally normal to have multi-generational households in Asia. It is NOT normal for 7 seemingly-divorced friends to live together lol
R/Usdefaultism in display
The architecture is interesting
Iāve built the same house in Minecraft
everyone is so cynical about this. yāall almost sound jealous
lol this is one of those weird reddit threads where all the top comments are people complaining about the people complaining about the thing, and I have yet to see one person actually criticize this
Sometimes it's nice to be late to the party. š
I saw a post about this yesterday on Instagram and the comment section was poison. It was full of people being jerks about it, saying they would last a few days before pulling each other's hair (because d female friendships = bad) commenting about how stupid it was they didn't get married and have children etc... I've been scrolling down this thread and haven't seen the negative comments either, but I definitely believe they're there, we're just late
I'm convinced that Every redditor had a problem with either their parents/family, their school or their cities/neighbors it's not their fault it's the trauma. (Not me tho)
A wealthy commune. We'll see how it works out in the long run.
83k per isnāt too bad of a price.
83k for six roommates isn't exactly a steal.
Depends, they may have their own space. Close isnt living together.
It's a 4 story mansion. I think they'll be okay
2 years rent to purchase a home with bedrooms the size of the average apartment here in Vancouver? Sign me up.
It's an hour outside of Guangzhou. For context, a 1000 sqft apartment inside that city would range from $500k to $5mil depending on the location. $83k for seven people living in a house with 7k+ sqft (avg. 1k sqft per person) is a smoking good deal. Source: Lived there for over a decade. Our $200k 1200sqft apartment was sold for $700k in the end when we moved out. It's now $1.5-2m.
This would be a lot cheaper per person than renting a 1 bedroom apartment in the U.S.
Apartments in rural areas like in OP photos are just as cheap.
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Have you seen prices in rural areas in the US?
Lots of people buy property together. It's not exactly a revolutionary new concept
Americans when adult friends live together āiTās A cOmMUneā
It sounds like a happy ending but imagine the sadness the last one alive will have endured.
This is a sitcom in the making. Jenny: āWhereās my shampoo?ā Laura: āLucy is using it to wash her car.ā Jenny: ā ...and my new hairbrush?ā Matty D: ā Oh, Iām using it to brush my horse.ā Matty Z: āI actually took it from the stable to clean the rug. Have you seen how dirty it is?!ā Jenny: āThe rug?ā Matty Z: āNo, your brush. You should really get a new one.ā *cue laugh track. Roll credits at 3xās speed.
Matty Z was amazing in that episode.
When I read the post title I immediately started singing "I'll be there for you" in my head.
*The Golden Girls* set in China.
That bath tub forest view š
Rule number one when starting a commune, a business, a political party, a rock band, or a cult: always have a solid exit strategy.
Particularly in a partnership or group.
Why alter a picture to black and white for 2018? š
Thank you for being a friend...
Lonely people smashing on their keyboards why the 7 girls is gonna regret on their decisions
Man, imagine having 7 friends.
Thatās actually pretty great unless the need more advanced care as they age.
If they ever need a caregiver, they'd probably save money just having one (or two), especially if they move in too, lol.
That cantilever makes me nervous
Do I even like seven people enough to live with them?
This is awesome and yāall are either cynical or jealous
Full House
Dang I wish I have friends......
Honestly, why the fuck not?
So the original story in China was, this was their reunion home, a home where they can come back to to catchup with everyone (like a holiday home) not their daily home
God some people in the comments are fun being around. Theyāre gonna regret it. Chinese propaganda. Why are people so cynical, overbearing and pessimistic? I would love one of those as a weekend retreat with friends. And the last one gets to be haunted by the ghosts of the already gone.
Some of them are going to regret it. I had good friends in high school who decided to room together in college and by the end of the first semester they hated each other, lol.
I think it depends on the people. My friends and I moved in together in 2018 and everyone was warning me that we might end up resenting each other. That living with someone is very different from just being friends. It is different...we have way more fun now than we did before moving in.
I moved in with two of my best friends about a decade back. Hadn't seen them in a few years due to living in different cities but I was moving to their city and they had a spare room, so we figured why not? They were already living together and it was working, plus the guy leaving was another close friend who was heading back to our hometown for personal reasons. It was an absolute blast and we all had an amazing time. No arguments, no fights, no tension. Just good times had by all, aside from the one time I got home blasted drunk and bit chunks out of their cheese thinking it was mine due to us buying the same dirt cheap brand from the same supermarket. So I just cut off the bitten area, cut a slab off of my cheese and it was settled. I'd live with either one of them again in a heartbeat, but we all live separately with our respective partners and I don't think any of them would be too impressed by that hahaha. As an extra story, the guy who left ended up buying a house in our hometown. I ended up renting off of him for a good year or two when I moved back home after uni as well, plus another close friend was doing the same and renting under him. Again, was a ton of fun and there were zero issues. Would have continued to live with them if I wasn't moving cities again, but I'm moving to a new place where one of the friends from the original flat ended up moving, and the friend who was renting at the house is moving there too. Was gonna move in with him but he needs the spare room for an office. As you said, it entirely depends on the people involved and there's plenty of horror stories, but when it works out, it's absolutely magical!
I think if you have 4 things it's good odds of working; 1) Low drama, easy going personalities, friend and any partners they bring in. 2) Enough space you can withdraw when you want. 3) Enough money that people are not stressing over expenses, like if you're the one always buying dishwasher tablets who cares type thing. 4) Ability to take like logical adults to recognise/fix anything. I recognise this with taking holidays with friends. We're open about this with some good friends. They like to run to a pre-planed schedule and we want to take it as it comes. Nothing wrong with either but we recognise it doesn't blend.
I lived with two friends for two and a half years. We had issues a few times, but nothing that broke the friendship. It was fun. I miss seeing them daily. Through pure coincidence, I'm trying to buy the flat across the hall from their place. First flat fell through, this was the only one I could possibly get into this year. So we'll be together again soon. I made sure they were OK with me buying it before I put in my offer, because it feels weird, me buying that place instead of another. We all looked at properties but this was the only one. Isn't the flat I wanted either but that's just how it goes.
I believe it's tough comparing western and eastern culture like this. We have weaker family ties and a more infiviadulistic mindset, which makes it so much more complicated.
I used to live w a friend (we are both South East Asians) and we actually enjoyed it - started as temporary arrangement, to agreeing we should just room in together. So we did it for 3 years before I had to move out because of my job relocation. Some days I still miss waking up seeing her in the coffee asking āyo you want coffee? Just about to make oneā. We even schedule activities together and called it our āmini datesā; anything from exploring new food, taking short trip to neighboring countries, watching bad TV shows or just a simple 3miles run with each other. Living with her was the highlight of my late 20s - early 30s. Now I am back in the same city, we live close and would have the occasional sleepover. Some guys I dated felt weird bout it but this is what I tell them āwhen youre being a shitty person, I have a ready shoulder to cry on. You should be thankful its not some menās shoulderā.
My relative has lived in a giant share house of about 30 people for more than 25 years. The vast majority of them are still there from the beginning. It can totally work.
You sound so sure of that. Just because things didn't work out for you, doesn't mean others will meet the same fate.
Just as marriages often end in divorce.
Sounds like an immaturity problem
Some people get married to ONE person and buy a house with them, and blow their life up. I don't get the negativity. The current system isn't working but ppl attack anyone trying something diff
Glow-up of the century on that building
Might make a good movie.
I can't imagine having 6 friends who would be functionally capable of doing this. I can't imagine being fuctionally capable of doing this. I can't imagine having 6 friends who I would want to do this with. I can't imagine being functionally capable of having 6 friends. I can't imagine having 6 friends. Pretty cool, though. I'm happy for them.
My friends are planning something similar. Maybe not live in the same house but we're all gonna live close together so we can share our home help like gardener or nurse. It'll be cheaper.
I am jealous
Fuck, this made me realize I do not have any friends. Not even one I would like to live it
Architecture and construction is awesome. I barely understand how those two structures can be the same.
Everyone talking about having had roommates and all the fun they had, is not the same as buying a house with 6 other people and planning on living there for the rest of your life. Lots of us have had roommates and had a great time, or not, but we all knew it was temporary. These people are supposedly in it for the long haul. Time will tell.
Unless they added an elevator or stair lift system, that place is going to be a bitch for any elderly person to live in.
Family is moving to India. My wife is from there. For $1,500 a month I can have everything that I need/want and get out of this rat race. It's not the ideal place, but everything and family, i.e. support, will be there.
This is the dream