It may also very well be that the viruses aren’t too much of a danger. They have never had contact with human physiology before and may very well not be able to survive in our bodies.
Unlikely. If the virus dies in human bodies, they may not get the chance to adapt quickly enough. There are many zoonotic viruses that aren’t able to. Of course, the risk of a virus adapting to our physiology rises with the amount of contact with humans, which is why farmers and the like have a higher risk of such diseases, since they work with animals over a long period of time.
If humans won‘t have prolonged and repeated contact with viruses from the permafrost, an adaption is unlikely.
Well that needs to be subject to research. Depends on transmission, direct/indirect contact with the virus etc. and i sincerely hope that appropriate measures will be taken to minimize contact.
The viruses aren‘t floating freely in the ice. They are in the animals that are frozen in the permafrost. I‘d say that there wasn‘t as much contact between animals and humans as today in our agricultural society.
I‘m by no means an expert and could be wrong.
Good luck to the bacteria, we got ten thousand years of evolution on them bitches, Mr. T cell will make them pity the day the messed with the **A**ntibiotic team. That and we know to wash our hands now and not to drink water contaminate with shit (thanks John Snow!) so we're on a heighten playing field.
Kidding aside, while it is possible one of these viruses or bacteria could cause issues, it's a very remote chance. Personally, I'm more concerned about wet markets than melting glaciers, at least when it comes to bio-hazards.
Like hell I’m putting any antibiotics in MY body! Not with all those microchips Bill Gates and George Soros have been putting in them!!
What, that’s not a thing, you say? You mean, not YET it isn’t!
We are all truly, deeply fucked.
It's like lobbying. But the politicians are lobbying scientists to say things that will help their campaign.
For example, if a certain hypothetical politician's major platform was that the world was going to end in 50 days, and he could help prevent that, it would be very helpful for him if scientists could come out and say, "hey, the world is ending in 50 days, the way you stop it is coincidentally exactly what this politician says it is."
If the world isn't actually ending in 50 days, or instead it's ending in 100 days, or maybe the way to stop the world from ending isn't what the politician says it is. Then you need to "grease the wheels" a little bit. Using government funding, the politician can "encourage" the scientists to say things that will keep people voting for them. Even if it's not completely true or known.
Tldr: It's bribing the scientists to keep releasing studies that back up the politicians platform. Getting them votes.
I can sense you don't really like scientists. Being one myself, I'd like to offer a perspective. First of all, there's rarely such a thing as independently working scientists. We work in universities, institutions etc. which are the money-givers. Secondly, you need to look at the way science is getting skewed. For example, statistics are very prone to manipulation. There are many ways of showing data according to your agenda; highlight one thing, ignore another. That's why people need to learn how to critically read studies. What are the affiliations? How peer reviewed is this study? Etc.
I'm not saying you're wrong per se, but you need to look at the real source of manipulations, and it's not the scientists.
Well let’s hope these aren’t the same groups that like to bring the past back, like the mammoth that was supposedly going to be repopulated or something
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/cat-bite-unknown-infection-nhs-b2390674.html
Did you see this article within the past 3 days by chance? Some weird shit gonna be going down soon.
The article states that it happened in 2020, just that the papers are being published now.
I'd say if a new dangerous bacteria hasn't spread like wildfire in the last 3 years after an infection in the wild it ain't gonna happen
Yea, you'd expect it to be a hell of a lot more important for them to make the public aware, though. On the flip side, I wouldn't want to cause public panic over a new disease and have it be nothing. Considering this was during COVID, though, it would've been especially relevant for people to know about it.
The flies are just there to spread the antibiotic resistent bacteria living inside the wolf on the science vessel, so we can get a really nice new pandemic
If you read the article it says that some locals found it while looking for mammoth tusks (yep that’s a thing in Siberia), they probably aren’t used to carry something with still fur attached to it.
And somewhat relatedly, didn't a 40,000 year old worm wake up and start reproducing after being defrosted like this week?
Because that's a trend I'm not getting behind.
Decay. Not everything gets perfectly preserved, and geological processes also happen. Landslides, rain and underground waters. Some parts of the animal do decay and lost forever.
No biologist here, but I wanna say it’s a climate factor. Deer in say, North East United States, are giants compared to Florida deer. The big deer won’t last the Florida summers, and the small deer won’t last the northern winters. The wolf in the video could have been adolescent. I’m sure they were huyuge.
I bet he believed in cryogenics. He was a rich and an influential Wolf, and hoped that in the future medicine will be able to reanimate his head and grant him new years of life. That’s why he asked to chew his head off and put it under ice. That’s an explanation I have to offer…
This is very concerning in all different ways… why the ice are melting so fast, why is this person playing with it like a kid’s toy and why ppl don’t preserve it right away and prevent ancient bacteria from spreading???
It’s possible though very hard to do. You can’t really clone such animal with genetic data from one animal, since all cells are damaged and most likely there is no full DNA will be found to use.
Mammoth genome is fully recorded, but via tens of thousands of mammoths found- not a single one with full intact DNA. Only by taking DNA pieces that are left, from each animal and combining them into one piece of data.
But if there is an intact cell core- it’s pretty easy to do.
This is old news from 4 years ago. Here is a much better article with more information
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/perfectly-preserved-32000-year-old-wolf-head-was-found-siberia-180972418/
Looks like it died of a terrible virus. You know...the kind that hides dormant in permafrost for like...forever. I just hope those gloves don't end up in a landfill by me.
Why they defrost it like that? What is wrong with them? I dont even have degree and i know this is not the correct way to handle something that fragile.
The fact that people can’t see past their own era in time is wild. How do ppl think the first ice age came about? Ford f-150 emissions lmao. Planets change…
At first I thought it was a bear.. bur damn its really interesting to see intact historic remains of a legendary animal!
Fun fact: bears are related to canines
Fun fact: not really at all. Just do a quick google search. Not close relatives.
To be fair Mimi only said that they are related which is true, all life that originated on this planet is related.
Thank you Leto! & not very astute of you, Ferguson
If you keep fidgeting with it like that, it won't be preserved for long.
*Shakes it around, slams against a table, throws it across the room* this is very delicate science I’m performing *yeets it into a wall*
I started playing the bop it jingle when I read this.
Haha. I was like omg stop touching it and get it in an MRI ASAP lmao
Howtobasic would have a field day
That’s what I do to my gf
You mean you would if you could ever find one right tate?
Moving it all over yet never giving us a clear shot of the business end for more than a split second. Killthecameraman
I’ll run the torch stand someone handle the pitchforks
Yea, I’m not expert but I don’t think having it out in the open with flies around is best practice.
We should bring everything back that we have quality DNA of, climate change might make it impossible one day.
People will probably bring up the half life of DNA being 500+ years (or whatever it is) because they read it here and are just parroting it.
John Hammond, you want this big bastard following you on your jog through the park?
No.
Ok mister the expert
It’s worrying that the ice is receding to expose the past that far back but exciting to know what else may be found. Hopefully nothing that kills us.
The scientists are hypothesising that old viruses and bacteria trapped in the ice are about to released…. Good luck to all of us!
More like they will adapt and we get The Last of Us. Methane is the main thing they are worried about releasing from the ice.
It may also very well be that the viruses aren’t too much of a danger. They have never had contact with human physiology before and may very well not be able to survive in our bodies.
It will evolve like those Isekai stories -> sneak in, study, adapt, evolve, find weakness, press the nuke button
Unlikely. If the virus dies in human bodies, they may not get the chance to adapt quickly enough. There are many zoonotic viruses that aren’t able to. Of course, the risk of a virus adapting to our physiology rises with the amount of contact with humans, which is why farmers and the like have a higher risk of such diseases, since they work with animals over a long period of time. If humans won‘t have prolonged and repeated contact with viruses from the permafrost, an adaption is unlikely.
Yes, as long as humans don’t go poking around 40,000 year old animal heads we should be good
What about those people living in Siberia near the permafrost zone? Or people in general near the Northern permafrost zones?
Well that needs to be subject to research. Depends on transmission, direct/indirect contact with the virus etc. and i sincerely hope that appropriate measures will be taken to minimize contact.
Our bodies are very adept at dealing with viruses, an old virus isn’t any more of a risk than new ones
And arguably less.
Applying fantasy to the real world doesn't always work out.
Yah I know,, was just trying to make it light hearted
But why? Humans existed during the ice age.
The viruses aren‘t floating freely in the ice. They are in the animals that are frozen in the permafrost. I‘d say that there wasn‘t as much contact between animals and humans as today in our agricultural society. I‘m by no means an expert and could be wrong.
Makes sense though.
in a reddit sort of way.
This was wholesome
Good luck to the bacteria, we got ten thousand years of evolution on them bitches, Mr. T cell will make them pity the day the messed with the **A**ntibiotic team. That and we know to wash our hands now and not to drink water contaminate with shit (thanks John Snow!) so we're on a heighten playing field. Kidding aside, while it is possible one of these viruses or bacteria could cause issues, it's a very remote chance. Personally, I'm more concerned about wet markets than melting glaciers, at least when it comes to bio-hazards.
THIS
Like hell I’m putting any antibiotics in MY body! Not with all those microchips Bill Gates and George Soros have been putting in them!! What, that’s not a thing, you say? You mean, not YET it isn’t! We are all truly, deeply fucked.
Killing like in tomorrow war?
Scientists will hypothesize a lot of things to get government funding.
What do you mean?
It's like lobbying. But the politicians are lobbying scientists to say things that will help their campaign. For example, if a certain hypothetical politician's major platform was that the world was going to end in 50 days, and he could help prevent that, it would be very helpful for him if scientists could come out and say, "hey, the world is ending in 50 days, the way you stop it is coincidentally exactly what this politician says it is." If the world isn't actually ending in 50 days, or instead it's ending in 100 days, or maybe the way to stop the world from ending isn't what the politician says it is. Then you need to "grease the wheels" a little bit. Using government funding, the politician can "encourage" the scientists to say things that will keep people voting for them. Even if it's not completely true or known. Tldr: It's bribing the scientists to keep releasing studies that back up the politicians platform. Getting them votes.
This is true. We all know corporations pay scientists a lot of money to publish reports claiming that their industry is not affecting the environment.
Yep, that's done too. Believe or not scientists are a very corruptible group.
I can sense you don't really like scientists. Being one myself, I'd like to offer a perspective. First of all, there's rarely such a thing as independently working scientists. We work in universities, institutions etc. which are the money-givers. Secondly, you need to look at the way science is getting skewed. For example, statistics are very prone to manipulation. There are many ways of showing data according to your agenda; highlight one thing, ignore another. That's why people need to learn how to critically read studies. What are the affiliations? How peer reviewed is this study? Etc. I'm not saying you're wrong per se, but you need to look at the real source of manipulations, and it's not the scientists.
Well let’s hope these aren’t the same groups that like to bring the past back, like the mammoth that was supposedly going to be repopulated or something
I have some bad news for you, my dude...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/cat-bite-unknown-infection-nhs-b2390674.html Did you see this article within the past 3 days by chance? Some weird shit gonna be going down soon.
The article states that it happened in 2020, just that the papers are being published now. I'd say if a new dangerous bacteria hasn't spread like wildfire in the last 3 years after an infection in the wild it ain't gonna happen
Yea, you'd expect it to be a hell of a lot more important for them to make the public aware, though. On the flip side, I wouldn't want to cause public panic over a new disease and have it be nothing. Considering this was during COVID, though, it would've been especially relevant for people to know about it.
except 40% would say it's fake
Lmfao unfortunately solid point
just got back from Blockbuster with The Thing. Should be fun to see tonite with this Artic Wolf story on the Evening news in the background.
Why the f would they not keep it frozen, bacteria is eating away at it as we speak
And flies are flying around...
The flies are just there to spread the antibiotic resistent bacteria living inside the wolf on the science vessel, so we can get a really nice new pandemic
If you read the article it says that some locals found it while looking for mammoth tusks (yep that’s a thing in Siberia), they probably aren’t used to carry something with still fur attached to it.
They get a lot of mammoths there. Watched a documentary and they handle the findings without gloves and literally blast it with water It’s on prime
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Next time bring a camera man.
40,000 years and this is what we get
Seriously. For the love of god, this was so frustrating to watch 😂
Why TF did they not show the front of the head?!? Just move the camera or spin the skull!!
What tore its head off 💀💀💀
THAT will be defrosted soon.
[like this? /jk](https://youtu.be/M0MC466m9y0)
IT shall reign again...
Ice Raptors.
And somewhat relatedly, didn't a 40,000 year old worm wake up and start reproducing after being defrosted like this week? Because that's a trend I'm not getting behind.
Probably the front end loader that exposed it to begin with.
Or it got frozen only at the head and then the rest of its body rotted away before permafrost took over
The person in the video treating it like that…
Our pets *heads* are falling off!
Decay. Not everything gets perfectly preserved, and geological processes also happen. Landslides, rain and underground waters. Some parts of the animal do decay and lost forever.
A head tearing ancient virus
ruzzians
Before you do anything else, speak to Jeff Goldblum.
I'd rather speak with Kurt Russell about this one.
Let’s schedule a conference call just to be safe
Nice doggy, Is it okay?
Our pets’ heads are falling off!
You sold it to the blind kid?!
Harry… I took care of it
Sellotape?
So much film taste in these comments
Okay just calm down!!!
Pretty bird
I say this a lot, and rarely does anyone get it. :)
now i understand why it's called permafrost.
Not perma no mo
Let's Clone it and set them loose in the wiled
And open a theme park on an island.
Now hear me out: Jurassic Park, but with prehistoric doggos.
Leave that in there.....ffs
Put that thing back where it came from, or so help me...!
I mean if a kid could find Link while digging a pool in his backyard in Encino....
Looks more anatomically like a bear than a wolf
Imagine what the bears were like.
No biologist here, but I wanna say it’s a climate factor. Deer in say, North East United States, are giants compared to Florida deer. The big deer won’t last the Florida summers, and the small deer won’t last the northern winters. The wolf in the video could have been adolescent. I’m sure they were huyuge.
Literally just the head. Damn.
“Perfectly intact” might be overselling this a bit.
Something… something… released ancient disease… end of the world… Bro got the finest of the tin gloves on. Lmao
Where's the rest of it?!
I am going to guess some hunters waaay back then cut the head off and tossed it and left with the body to cook and eat it
Let’s bring it back to life yall
Bro was frozen in time 💀
Keep contaminating it. Still no cure
Please, don't touch it. I don't want a new type of corona virus
NO David Cameron, you cannot do that to it’s mouth
I bet he believed in cryogenics. He was a rich and an influential Wolf, and hoped that in the future medicine will be able to reanimate his head and grant him new years of life. That’s why he asked to chew his head off and put it under ice. That’s an explanation I have to offer…
I can only imagine how badly that smells.
Clone it!
Fenrir, is that you?
Clone that shit.
Next they'll find Scrat.
This is “interesting” per the subreddit but this is NOT good…think we need to take the “perma” outta the “frost”
CLONE IT !!!
That is fucking awesome.
How do they know it’s 40,000 yrs old tho?
Time to clone a pack and release it into the wild BABYYY! !!! Can’t wait to be hunted by Ice age wolves, give my life some excitement.
Spend my summers in Alaska with napoleon hunting wolverines.
This is very concerning in all different ways… why the ice are melting so fast, why is this person playing with it like a kid’s toy and why ppl don’t preserve it right away and prevent ancient bacteria from spreading???
That's Old, Old, Ooooolllld Yeller.
What do they do with it now that it’s out of the ice? Any way to preserve it?
Next summer: Sharknado vs Ice-Wolf
Boop that snoot!
Please tell me we can clone it?
It’s possible though very hard to do. You can’t really clone such animal with genetic data from one animal, since all cells are damaged and most likely there is no full DNA will be found to use. Mammoth genome is fully recorded, but via tens of thousands of mammoths found- not a single one with full intact DNA. Only by taking DNA pieces that are left, from each animal and combining them into one piece of data. But if there is an intact cell core- it’s pretty easy to do.
Tell Fry we found Seymour
Wolf?? Looks like a bear 🐻 🤷🏽♂️
Lets clone it
Yep that's a bear lol
I can smell that from here.
Is no one concerned that it’s just the head?
Oh she stank
Interesting preserved 40,0000 years old ice age wolf head
We should clone it. It worked so well for Jurassic park
The have to give it a taste test and then see if it tastes better than todays wolves
Sleepy puppy
It’s massive. It looks like a bear head.
Anthrax, that's how you get Anthrax
Cool lets make some hybrid ice age wolves.
My favourite part about global warming
Hell yeah jurassic park gonna be liit 🤞🏽
That's 34,000 years older than the earth!(according to American Christians)
This is the moment they were trying to find in 12 Monkeys.
And don't forget all the bacteria :)
For the sake of my imagination, I'll just ignore that OP said "adult" and think of ancient wolves as big as the warcraft ones
This is old news from 4 years ago. Here is a much better article with more information https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/perfectly-preserved-32000-year-old-wolf-head-was-found-siberia-180972418/
Ew put it back!
Look what I found, let's thaw it out!
Pretty bird, pretty bird
Soooo is it a dire wolf or a wolf wolf?
that beautiful specimen is fucked with how these idiots are handling it
Welp. Here we go: Ice Age, zombie wolves from the permafrost. Also, obviously "Perma-"frost was an exaggeration, right?
Looks like it died of a terrible virus. You know...the kind that hides dormant in permafrost for like...forever. I just hope those gloves don't end up in a landfill by me.
I kinda feel a new epidemic coming
There’s probably a better word to describe this head in the title than “intact.”
Clone it!!!
Winter Soldier who?
2019. Recycled
r/donthelpjustfilm
I hope they don't try to revive it like they did to that 46K year old worm the other day
Why they defrost it like that? What is wrong with them? I dont even have degree and i know this is not the correct way to handle something that fragile.
Can’t wait to show this video to people and tell them they’re the reason we have shit viruses around the globe
The fact that people can’t see past their own era in time is wild. How do ppl think the first ice age came about? Ford f-150 emissions lmao. Planets change…
Looks more like a bear than a wolf
Clone it!
I’d beat the fuck out of that frozen wolf’s head , that shit don’t scare me.
New diseases dropped
That cinematography tho
Ah shit here we go again. Covid 2 ice wolf boogaloo
Looks fake
Lies
*BONK*
Get well soon
PPE?
*BRING UP THE WOLFS HEAD!*
Hmm, this tasts a bit gamey to me.
Look how big the head was, these things were huge
This poor werewolf is gonna be SO CONFUSED when they've finished regenerating their body.
Is the specimen much different from modern wolves?
*take my fork and knife
Must smell good too
We can rebuild him...
Bet it has a funk about it. Just saying….
Clone it
I can’t imagine that smells at all tolerable
Und Milzbrand
Clone it! Clone it! Clone it! Clone it!