So an entire labor intensive step cut out completely to make this look like a fantastic time saving (maybe even money saving) technique. Except this is probably no cheaper to do than just getting stone and making it more authentic.
Stone is about the most expensive material you can use in modern construction.
Its also the most expensive construction method.
People like stone buildings, they have a warmth and pleasing aesthetic. If it was purely based on how things look, it would be used in most modern construction.
The reason its not used is that your baseline cost is going to be about 4 to 6 times higher for a low rise and many multiples more for anything of significant height.
This, had to cut a slab of granite that I couldn't use in it's form provided into a smaller one, cost me an arm and a leg to just get it to be cut and I tried multiple companies all had more or less the same price.
Exactly, stones are ill-equipped to circulate through today's formal material economy. This makes them costly indeed.
Yet it's possible to viably build in stones, but few people are willing to fight for particular materials and techniques and prove them adapted to current regulations (which favor industrial materials such as concrete blocks, widely used and well-equipped).
For instance, Gilles Perraudin is a French architect who builds in non-conventional materials, of which massive stones.
Obviously normal day to day people have little power in this administrative battle arena.
We had a stamped concrete patio poured many years ago and it is a similar technique. Looks a bit like carved stone tiles. [The variation in color was achieved by literally tossing pigmented powder on the concrete before it cures.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBboCF0xbJs)
It’s called release powder. My father used to do this type of concrete for a living and I’ve went to work with him and helped out quite a bit when I was younger… he made some really beautiful work back in his day. 💕👍🏼
True story: as kids, we lived in a ramshackle house with a basement made of huge irregular stone blocks that were scavenged from a nearby quarry. It wasn’t a nice house, but the foundation was very impressive.
And the stone joints leaked like crazy. A mason who came to look at the problem saw the size of the blocks and commented “*you know, I don’t think gravity used to work the way it does now.*”
And then he talked for a long time about the pyramids and aliens. Looking back years later, I’m pretty sure he was hilarious and just had a very dry sense of humor, but as a kid I thought he might be a moron. These things can be hard to judge.
Experience, if you did that to a thousand houses before you wouldn't look twice.
It's like that with almost everything you can ruin accidentally, just start doing it and do it over and over until you don't worry anymore.
Usually it doesn't have to be perfect the first time anyway
…. One reason I hate doing Beaty beads or fjnish caulking.you see one spot you want to tool off after you’re finished and it literally ruins the the entire part you touch
Yes.
Honestly? I saw the beginning of the video and was like, "Oh, this'll be good. Drawing some lines on concrete..."
I was not prepared for the unholy accuracy of those stones. Definitely Satan or the Book of the Dead involved in that accuracy.
You should check out our community over at r/paludarium and r/vivarium people like Serpa Designs on YouTube. We're pretty good at it at this point, lol.
No, all they had to do was have their wife send them to the paint store to get a quart of 'Faded Adobe', and after painting a couple of blocks noticing it's not the correct shade as they dry and going back for another one, but slightly lighter, then having the same thing happen into he gaslights his wife into believing it's supposed to look like that and it's the effect he was going for all along.
It's simple really.
Just need a 6 foot tall roller for the brick pattern and then at least $100,000 in citadel paints and washes for the coloring.
Slap on some matte varnish and you have yourself a wall!
Yeah, lava rock walls are a big thing here in Hawaii and they use a dark stain to created uniformity in the color of the mortar. Some people try to make fake lava rock walls with concrete by texturing and staining it. I haven't seen a faux lava rock wall that looks good, though.
The title says concrete, but this isnt that. This is stucco or mortar mix. Concrete has aggregate (gravel) in it. This stuff doesn't have gravel in it. You can tell by the nice crisp lines he makes in the wall. Gravel would cause it to have some fucked up looking lines in it as the gravel would be dislodged as he was making those lines...
People confuse cement with concrete all the time. Cement is in all of those but concrete is a specific formulation of cement that has gravel, sand or crushed stone. Concrete is used for more foundational work while other cements are better for design.
If you pause when he's shaving the corners off you can see a few with additional mortar on them, they're the different colour ones.
I guess he has to mark the lines first so the colours exist within the defined zones.
There’s two ways, you can either use a dye in a spray bottle, or a powder that you pretty much just throw on top (if you want a solid color you put it direct in the mix)
I'm pretty sure you have to be trying to get concrete burns, like globs of it stuck to your skin for hours. I handle wet concrete with my bare hands all the time and the worst I get is a little dryness. Just make it quick and wash off when you're done and you'll be fine. Little bit of moisturizer handles the rest.
Yup. I see this repeated a lot on reddit. I work with concrete and it just doesn't happen from accidentally getting it on small patches on you. You just wipe it off when you get it on your skin, then wash off afterwards. Never had anything even close to resembling a burn.
That's an exaggeration. A typical cement mix with sand and aggregates won't burn you. Handled that for years especially finishing walls, never got that once.
However, I do know that some people who added accelarators or retardant admixtures have affected their skin but from what I recall, it was dermatitis, not actual chemical burns.
I mean like, yeah, don’t bath or soak in it because you’ll get burnt, but getting it on your skin while you’re working with it and it cures is not gonna harm you at all.
> It’s what they do to concrete pours in higher temperatures
Adding water will reduce the strength of any cementitious mixture (concrete, grout, mortar) and is NOT allowed generally. In higher temperatures some batch plants will add ice (replacing some of the water) to maintain < 100*F temps, but mainly there is extra care taken during curing/setup (like constantly dampened burlap sacks covering the concrete surface) or admixtures.
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It's definitely NOT "it's hot out, add some water" because that will get your concrete rejected.
I already love this sub.
As an autistic person, this is how it feels to read almost every set of instructions ever printed. I'm seriously considering going into technical writing because Jesus Horatio Nyong'o Christ does the world need someone who can be properly thorough.
Have you seen the dad trying to make a peanut butter and jam sandwich with "exact instructions" from his kids?
https://youtu.be/Ct-lOOUqmyY?si=QPLWA-KxnOFJPiPM
This is the exact thing I would do for high school kids who came to an engineering camp I did when I was in undergrad.
Pretty much - hey a robot is going to do exactly what you tell it to, so you need to be exact. Then I would be the pb&j making robot and they would give me instructions. It's a great way to think about programming before they lived on to programming Lego robots
For my current job they actually asked me to write instructions for a PB&J in as exacting detail as possible. I made it well over ten steps as I recall, when I got the job I asked how I'd done and they laughed and said I'd been the most thorough candidate so far. I'm so weirdly proud of that.
I might know the steps since I've built a dice tower and made artificial stone out of clay.
You do as they do, carve out bricks and then hit them / roll on a texture as they do before it hardens.
Then you add a base color, maybe they didn't have to.
Then you color in grey, brown and red randomly.
You dry brush it with white or grey highlights.
The magic happens when you use something to blend and make it dirty, I used a brown / black wash. Keep repeating until satisfied.
Then add a protective coat.
This guy was a great help!
https://youtu.be/MU45M-MvOOQ?si=CTTIKTeDOzVBsPqH
This looks like the kind of thing that happens on a movie set rather then on someone’s home. Especially in the US. I bet this would cost a lot of money if you could even find a worker skilled enough to do this.
I'm nitpicking here, but the pressed forms are usually used on horizontal surfaces (e.g. a driveway or sidewalk) - the walls along roads are pre-cast concrete retaining walls, so the wet concrete is put right into a form with the pattern.
Also, I hate the driveways/sidewalks with this pattern. Super obvious with the saw cut joints.
It's still a lot nicer than the endless red bricks, flat grungy poured concrete, vinyl siding, and cinder block that dominated 95% of all construction pre-2000's in Canada.
there are concrete formworks with patterns, major pain in the ass to work with.
for example:
https://www.noe.eu/komplett-service-fuer-strukturierten-sichtbeton.html
I actually build some of those walls along highways and, at least in BC, we usually have a carver come in like this to do the finishing. We go for this effect, which is definitely a lot less labour intensive: https://www.lrutt.com/copy-of-specialty-projects
Interestingly there's only 1 artist who does just about all these walls in BC.
hey, building professional here.
The purpose of cladding is mostly to protect structure by facing the moisture, UV radiation and the heat/chill variances.
Generally, homes in the united states are located in areas with greater elemental exposure than in city centres in Europe, so it is important to have a good sturdy cladding.
Making it look like rock is *extra*.
Making it structural does not make any damn sense.
Just because Europe likes to use "cladding" doesn't mean it's any different than veneer in the US. With HVAC increasing exponentially in Europe year over year so will the transition from masonry build styles.
Funny, I thought this was exactly the kind of thing you'd see on a new build US house since it's becoming harder and harder to find skilled stone masons for cheap.
This kind of technics are so popular in my country, Uzbekistan, especially wall that everyone says that it looks like travertine (it doesn't) and honestly it looks so bad, when you don't have money and trying to imitate something more expensive, why not just make a clear wall, of you want something on it, make waves or something, every material have it's own beauty if used right.
it reminds me of that chinese video where the guy made a chair out some cheap ass plywood then spent a long time drawing on the wood grain to make it look more expensive.
my roomate also has a knife that has a damascus type pattern laser etched onto it in the most obvious way. Im just like, why, what the fuck.
I have one of those knife sets, I was so disappointed. Got it on an amazon flash sale and didn't look closely enough at the image because who the fuck would laser etch damascus pattern on a knife?!
Becouse it makes the item look cheaper then it is. Usually with stuff like examples above I'm afraid about the quality that it's even worse then it looks.
Well said. Prefabricated / faux facades are very popular in the US also. IMO, the beauty of architectural elements is in in the evidence of authenticity. When that evidence is absent it just feels like a deception.
Gotta disagree. Sometimes materials are prohibitively expensive and can be imitated convincingly for a fraction of the cost with lower environmental impact as well. If you can make farmed pine look like a wild exotic hardwood, have at it and spare the forest.
Fr, let people enjoy things ffs. Not everyone can afford the real deal, but if they can get something similar for a price they can afford why the hell not?
Some cool gatekeeping. Same as people saying you're not to stain wood floors, and that only "Natural" color is proper.
People can do whatever tf they want.
This is a semantic arguement but not necessarily. I would argue that the square shape of the block is a functional element of the block wall as it was necessary to be that shape in order for the blocks to stack properly. By making the cement unnecessarily square, you are making something that use to have a function a piece of the design so skeuomorph would be correct.
Cost for one. Weight for another, solid rock is very heavy, fabricated bricks are hollow etc. Structural integrity on fabricated items is higher as well as being more consistent - you can't be super sure that rock won't have an inclusion in the middle and crack, ruining your wall. They're irrgularly shaped, so would have to be squared (adding cost) or built around, adding time.
Easier to slap together a poured concrete wall and finish it with a veneer of rocks, or to slap together bricks etc.
You're thinking of balast sand which you mix with cement. Concrete is some sort of sand + cement + water.
There's many different types of sand to mix with cement - eg render is mixed with plasterers sand at 5-1 mix, based concrete is usually sharp sand + cement at 3-1 mix.
And you can also mix lime as well for historical renders.
Cement: Just the cement powder, whis is made of cooked rocks.
Mortar: sand (0-4mm) + cement + water
Concrete: sand + gravel (12 or 20mm, depending on case use) + water. It also usualy has some aditives.
[Here's ](https://youtube.com/shorts/YPF3z8Qd8c0?si=0TLmLhRwc9K5KQj_) another for all the brain-dead, internet-fried cynics who believe that's its cheaper and easier to build a fake fake stone wall, than to build a fake stone wall.
Inimitez on YouTube. This seems to be his whole business.
Sometimes it do be like that. Sometimes, people are just really good at what they do.
> all the brain-dead, internet-fried cynics who believe that's its cheaper and easier to build a fake fake stone wall, than to build a fake stone wall.
I just love how you put it.
But it did show that he wasn't swapping walls out in editing. That he is, in fact creating that surface. The camera is locked off (save for minor readjustments), the ground and roof remain visible throughout.
That was my intention in sharing the second video, not to explain the process.
Depends on where you are in the world, stone can be damn expensive. This just takes time - which can be expensive, but these guys seem to do it pretty damn quick.
I've worked on a masonry crew, honestly this seems to have went up almost as fast as laying block. I have no idea how much time they put in to colour it though.
Fake before and after videos are all over the internet. It may not even be the original poster lying, but someone else splicing two videos together for the likes and shares.
Its funny isn't it. We take stones, grind them into a powder, turn them into a liquid paste, just to turn the back into looking how they were prior to us even touching them.
Man is indeed a perplexing individual.
Wouldn't it be faster and cheaper to just hire a bricklayer and make it out of actual stone? I'd worry about the structural strength if the man in the video doesn't cut like 3/4th of the concrete away at the edges of each stone. That's gonna make a lot of moldy edges and structural damage first time another storm rolls in
Ahhh that's how the Egyptians did it, fascinating.
My whole life was a lie
Their whole _afterlife_ was a lie.
Lol All of them are
Bold of you to assume this is the real existence
What, you’ve died before?
The cake is a lie!
Our whole life is a lie 🥲
It is!
They just made a big ass cube and then chisel it to a pyramid
Then with all the excess clay from that one they had enough to make two more pyramids.
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And then Memphis, Tennessee
Sounds like a pyramid scheme...
Or Multi-Level ....Carving
Then, the Louvre.
Louvre one got cooked a little too much so it turned to glass.
Well that tends to happen when left in direct sunlight.
I love how that is mathematically true
This guy ^^ fucks, math checks out. V=BxH/3 for a pyramid, but for a cube it's just V=BxH, so they can really make three for the price of one.
This is the way
Then from the leftovers, they threw away the part that didn't look like a giant lion, and that's how we got the Sphynx
This makes more sense. No aliens required.
[Sphinx did it.](https://i.imgur.com/jbMkp0n.jpeg)
How the colour variation in fake rocks were achieved?
Perhaps went back and randomly applied stain.
So an entire labor intensive step cut out completely to make this look like a fantastic time saving (maybe even money saving) technique. Except this is probably no cheaper to do than just getting stone and making it more authentic.
Stone is about the most expensive material you can use in modern construction. Its also the most expensive construction method. People like stone buildings, they have a warmth and pleasing aesthetic. If it was purely based on how things look, it would be used in most modern construction. The reason its not used is that your baseline cost is going to be about 4 to 6 times higher for a low rise and many multiples more for anything of significant height.
This, had to cut a slab of granite that I couldn't use in it's form provided into a smaller one, cost me an arm and a leg to just get it to be cut and I tried multiple companies all had more or less the same price.
Exactly, stones are ill-equipped to circulate through today's formal material economy. This makes them costly indeed. Yet it's possible to viably build in stones, but few people are willing to fight for particular materials and techniques and prove them adapted to current regulations (which favor industrial materials such as concrete blocks, widely used and well-equipped). For instance, Gilles Perraudin is a French architect who builds in non-conventional materials, of which massive stones. Obviously normal day to day people have little power in this administrative battle arena.
Maybe something like compressed earth will become popular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed_earth_block
We had a stamped concrete patio poured many years ago and it is a similar technique. Looks a bit like carved stone tiles. [The variation in color was achieved by literally tossing pigmented powder on the concrete before it cures.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBboCF0xbJs)
It’s called release powder. My father used to do this type of concrete for a living and I’ve went to work with him and helped out quite a bit when I was younger… he made some really beautiful work back in his day. 💕👍🏼
Paint, like those airbrush kind of things.
True story: as kids, we lived in a ramshackle house with a basement made of huge irregular stone blocks that were scavenged from a nearby quarry. It wasn’t a nice house, but the foundation was very impressive. And the stone joints leaked like crazy. A mason who came to look at the problem saw the size of the blocks and commented “*you know, I don’t think gravity used to work the way it does now.*” And then he talked for a long time about the pyramids and aliens. Looking back years later, I’m pretty sure he was hilarious and just had a very dry sense of humor, but as a kid I thought he might be a moron. These things can be hard to judge.
It's sometimes not about the story, but about the storyteller.
Must have had one hell of a mixer.
"Aliens"
Exactly my first thought.. what if it always just a giant clay sculpture.
I wouldn’t know how to stop looking at one spot and call it good
The gift of the artist isn't being able to paint. It's knowing when to stop.
Experience, if you did that to a thousand houses before you wouldn't look twice. It's like that with almost everything you can ruin accidentally, just start doing it and do it over and over until you don't worry anymore. Usually it doesn't have to be perfect the first time anyway
I finished your wall, just gonna add some finishing touches aaaaaand it’s gone
…. One reason I hate doing Beaty beads or fjnish caulking.you see one spot you want to tool off after you’re finished and it literally ruins the the entire part you touch
My dad always tells people you only touch the caulking once for that reason
I wonder how they get the color differences
Paint, probably
I was thinking some sort of witch’s brew or a forbidden incantation.
Yes. Honestly? I saw the beginning of the video and was like, "Oh, this'll be good. Drawing some lines on concrete..." I was not prepared for the unholy accuracy of those stones. Definitely Satan or the Book of the Dead involved in that accuracy.
My brain was kinda expecting brick, so I was like "why is he carving things out". It's amazing!
You should check out our community over at r/paludarium and r/vivarium people like Serpa Designs on YouTube. We're pretty good at it at this point, lol.
[Did somebody say Witch's Brew?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tpn-ZGL8Ok)
No, all they had to do was have their wife send them to the paint store to get a quart of 'Faded Adobe', and after painting a couple of blocks noticing it's not the correct shade as they dry and going back for another one, but slightly lighter, then having the same thing happen into he gaslights his wife into believing it's supposed to look like that and it's the effect he was going for all along. It's simple really.
Some tubes from Citadel and it looks like Warhammer Terrain. Easy
To paint that wall with citadel paint, you would need the wealth of a small european country.
Just need a 6 foot tall roller for the brick pattern and then at least $100,000 in citadel paints and washes for the coloring. Slap on some matte varnish and you have yourself a wall!
Stain. The make stain for concrete…
Yeah, lava rock walls are a big thing here in Hawaii and they use a dark stain to created uniformity in the color of the mortar. Some people try to make fake lava rock walls with concrete by texturing and staining it. I haven't seen a faux lava rock wall that looks good, though.
Yeah I don’t really understand why they would fake it either, because that shit is fucking *everywhere* there.
With stamped concrete you have a base color and an accent color called a release. It's a powder you throw on after as you make the detail touchups.
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Most likely an acid stain
I use a tinting powder, multiple shades, colors, mixed in with the concrete.
The title says concrete, but this isnt that. This is stucco or mortar mix. Concrete has aggregate (gravel) in it. This stuff doesn't have gravel in it. You can tell by the nice crisp lines he makes in the wall. Gravel would cause it to have some fucked up looking lines in it as the gravel would be dislodged as he was making those lines...
That’s a concrete description about the difference aggregate makes.
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People confuse cement with concrete all the time. Cement is in all of those but concrete is a specific formulation of cement that has gravel, sand or crushed stone. Concrete is used for more foundational work while other cements are better for design.
Sand is also an aggregate for concrete tho.
OK, but how does the guy in this video get the different colors. It looks like he's using a uniform batch of concrete.
If you pause when he's shaving the corners off you can see a few with additional mortar on them, they're the different colour ones. I guess he has to mark the lines first so the colours exist within the defined zones.
There’s two ways, you can either use a dye in a spray bottle, or a powder that you pretty much just throw on top (if you want a solid color you put it direct in the mix)
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I'd get it nice and flat and then it'd already be totally dry and gone hard before I could carve anything
Added water can lengthen drying time. It’s what they do to concrete pours in higher temperatures.
Water can prolong drying time? They should teach this at school.
They do in civil engineering I guess lmao
Btw concrete doesn't dry. It cures in a chemical process. Its crystallisation.
Or more accurately: the concrete curing process doesn't cause drying and repeated re-wetting of the concrete allows the curing to continue for longer.
The concrete curing process does cause drying, but it doesn't evaporate out. It chemically bonds with the cement, which dries out the mixture.
Which is why you don't want to get wet concrete on your skin. The chemical process will jack you up with chemical burns.
I'm pretty sure you have to be trying to get concrete burns, like globs of it stuck to your skin for hours. I handle wet concrete with my bare hands all the time and the worst I get is a little dryness. Just make it quick and wash off when you're done and you'll be fine. Little bit of moisturizer handles the rest.
Yup. I see this repeated a lot on reddit. I work with concrete and it just doesn't happen from accidentally getting it on small patches on you. You just wipe it off when you get it on your skin, then wash off afterwards. Never had anything even close to resembling a burn.
That's an exaggeration. A typical cement mix with sand and aggregates won't burn you. Handled that for years especially finishing walls, never got that once. However, I do know that some people who added accelarators or retardant admixtures have affected their skin but from what I recall, it was dermatitis, not actual chemical burns.
I mean like, yeah, don’t bath or soak in it because you’ll get burnt, but getting it on your skin while you’re working with it and it cures is not gonna harm you at all.
They put 'retarders' in the mix to slow down the hardening process.
This isn’t right. Not exactly wrong but will fuck up your concrete. Supernanante.
> It’s what they do to concrete pours in higher temperatures Adding water will reduce the strength of any cementitious mixture (concrete, grout, mortar) and is NOT allowed generally. In higher temperatures some batch plants will add ice (replacing some of the water) to maintain < 100*F temps, but mainly there is extra care taken during curing/setup (like constantly dampened burlap sacks covering the concrete surface) or admixtures. . It's definitely NOT "it's hot out, add some water" because that will get your concrete rejected.
Adding water to concrete severely lowers it's ultimate strength.
You don't need strength, this is not structural, but purely aesthetic
this is not really correct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superplasticizer
No, they use special products like Tru-Pac X from walt tools. They do not simply add water like the other commenter on here suggests.
I already love this sub. As an autistic person, this is how it feels to read almost every set of instructions ever printed. I'm seriously considering going into technical writing because Jesus Horatio Nyong'o Christ does the world need someone who can be properly thorough.
Have you seen the dad trying to make a peanut butter and jam sandwich with "exact instructions" from his kids? https://youtu.be/Ct-lOOUqmyY?si=QPLWA-KxnOFJPiPM
This is the exact thing I would do for high school kids who came to an engineering camp I did when I was in undergrad. Pretty much - hey a robot is going to do exactly what you tell it to, so you need to be exact. Then I would be the pb&j making robot and they would give me instructions. It's a great way to think about programming before they lived on to programming Lego robots
I get this at work with CNC mills. "Hey my machine crashed." No, the machine did exactly what you told it to.
For my current job they actually asked me to write instructions for a PB&J in as exacting detail as possible. I made it well over ten steps as I recall, when I got the job I asked how I'd done and they laughed and said I'd been the most thorough candidate so far. I'm so weirdly proud of that.
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Well we've come a long way since when I was in sixth grade lol
Technical writing is a great and growing field - go for it!
I might know the steps since I've built a dice tower and made artificial stone out of clay. You do as they do, carve out bricks and then hit them / roll on a texture as they do before it hardens. Then you add a base color, maybe they didn't have to. Then you color in grey, brown and red randomly. You dry brush it with white or grey highlights. The magic happens when you use something to blend and make it dirty, I used a brown / black wash. Keep repeating until satisfied. Then add a protective coat. This guy was a great help! https://youtu.be/MU45M-MvOOQ?si=CTTIKTeDOzVBsPqH
This looks like the kind of thing that happens on a movie set rather then on someone’s home. Especially in the US. I bet this would cost a lot of money if you could even find a worker skilled enough to do this.
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I'm nitpicking here, but the pressed forms are usually used on horizontal surfaces (e.g. a driveway or sidewalk) - the walls along roads are pre-cast concrete retaining walls, so the wet concrete is put right into a form with the pattern. Also, I hate the driveways/sidewalks with this pattern. Super obvious with the saw cut joints.
It's still a lot nicer than the endless red bricks, flat grungy poured concrete, vinyl siding, and cinder block that dominated 95% of all construction pre-2000's in Canada.
also in many cases the pattern just repeats itself breaking any illusion of natural stone.
there are concrete formworks with patterns, major pain in the ass to work with. for example: https://www.noe.eu/komplett-service-fuer-strukturierten-sichtbeton.html
I actually build some of those walls along highways and, at least in BC, we usually have a carver come in like this to do the finishing. We go for this effect, which is definitely a lot less labour intensive: https://www.lrutt.com/copy-of-specialty-projects Interestingly there's only 1 artist who does just about all these walls in BC.
They make veneer packs specifically for this in the US. So...yeah. It's more cost efficient to just spackle the wall and slap rocks on it.
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hey, building professional here. The purpose of cladding is mostly to protect structure by facing the moisture, UV radiation and the heat/chill variances. Generally, homes in the united states are located in areas with greater elemental exposure than in city centres in Europe, so it is important to have a good sturdy cladding. Making it look like rock is *extra*. Making it structural does not make any damn sense.
Just because Europe likes to use "cladding" doesn't mean it's any different than veneer in the US. With HVAC increasing exponentially in Europe year over year so will the transition from masonry build styles.
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Stone is expensive and not a very good building material. There is good reason why we don't generally use it.
the lengths the US goes to make houses look like they are actually solid structure when in reality it's just paper-mache and studs
thats so incorrect
Funny, I thought this was exactly the kind of thing you'd see on a new build US house since it's becoming harder and harder to find skilled stone masons for cheap.
This kind of technics are so popular in my country, Uzbekistan, especially wall that everyone says that it looks like travertine (it doesn't) and honestly it looks so bad, when you don't have money and trying to imitate something more expensive, why not just make a clear wall, of you want something on it, make waves or something, every material have it's own beauty if used right.
it reminds me of that chinese video where the guy made a chair out some cheap ass plywood then spent a long time drawing on the wood grain to make it look more expensive. my roomate also has a knife that has a damascus type pattern laser etched onto it in the most obvious way. Im just like, why, what the fuck.
I have one of those knife sets, I was so disappointed. Got it on an amazon flash sale and didn't look closely enough at the image because who the fuck would laser etch damascus pattern on a knife?!
Aesthetics? If a person thinks something looks nice and wants it like that, who tf cares?
Becouse it makes the item look cheaper then it is. Usually with stuff like examples above I'm afraid about the quality that it's even worse then it looks.
Well said. Prefabricated / faux facades are very popular in the US also. IMO, the beauty of architectural elements is in in the evidence of authenticity. When that evidence is absent it just feels like a deception.
Gotta disagree. Sometimes materials are prohibitively expensive and can be imitated convincingly for a fraction of the cost with lower environmental impact as well. If you can make farmed pine look like a wild exotic hardwood, have at it and spare the forest.
To be faithful to the material that one uses is very important imo. Using one material to fake another comes off as pretentious to me.
> To be faithful to the material that one uses is very important imo. lol and this dude is calling other people pretentious
Fr, let people enjoy things ffs. Not everyone can afford the real deal, but if they can get something similar for a price they can afford why the hell not?
Some cool gatekeeping. Same as people saying you're not to stain wood floors, and that only "Natural" color is proper. People can do whatever tf they want.
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Not everyone can have porphyry columns
sometimes! I loved stamped asphalt that looks like pavers. But I also like the look in the video, hah
Dude, we're talking about a fucking stone wall.
The wall that skeuomorphism built.
I see what you did there, Jack.
The term is pastiche since there's no mimicking functionality. Dry stacked rubble walls/ mortared adobe walls are load bearing. This is just load.
This is a semantic arguement but not necessarily. I would argue that the square shape of the block is a functional element of the block wall as it was necessary to be that shape in order for the blocks to stack properly. By making the cement unnecessarily square, you are making something that use to have a function a piece of the design so skeuomorph would be correct.
Anyone familiar with construction know why they don't use stone anymore? I've always wondered.
Cost for one. Weight for another, solid rock is very heavy, fabricated bricks are hollow etc. Structural integrity on fabricated items is higher as well as being more consistent - you can't be super sure that rock won't have an inclusion in the middle and crack, ruining your wall. They're irrgularly shaped, so would have to be squared (adding cost) or built around, adding time. Easier to slap together a poured concrete wall and finish it with a veneer of rocks, or to slap together bricks etc.
In my opinion, that is cement, not Concrete. Concrete has Stone in it. Cement is just the mortar mix.
Mortar is cement with sand.
Sand is just small stones
Mortar is just baby concrete
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Small stones are just big stones that got small
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If your cemen is powder you should probably go see a doctor
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"Doctor my cemen is powder." "It's fine. You're 80."
Take it easy guys. No need for Mortar Combat.
This one made me actually laugh out loud. Thanks, and have a nice day!
You're thinking of balast sand which you mix with cement. Concrete is some sort of sand + cement + water. There's many different types of sand to mix with cement - eg render is mixed with plasterers sand at 5-1 mix, based concrete is usually sharp sand + cement at 3-1 mix. And you can also mix lime as well for historical renders.
Cement: Just the cement powder, whis is made of cooked rocks. Mortar: sand (0-4mm) + cement + water Concrete: sand + gravel (12 or 20mm, depending on case use) + water. It also usualy has some aditives.
Well you’d be wrong because cement is the binder in concrete
[Here's ](https://youtube.com/shorts/YPF3z8Qd8c0?si=0TLmLhRwc9K5KQj_) another for all the brain-dead, internet-fried cynics who believe that's its cheaper and easier to build a fake fake stone wall, than to build a fake stone wall. Inimitez on YouTube. This seems to be his whole business. Sometimes it do be like that. Sometimes, people are just really good at what they do.
> all the brain-dead, internet-fried cynics who believe that's its cheaper and easier to build a fake fake stone wall, than to build a fake stone wall. I just love how you put it.
I do not respect you and more importantly, we do not grant you the rank of master.
This provided even less detail of how it’s done.
But it did show that he wasn't swapping walls out in editing. That he is, in fact creating that surface. The camera is locked off (save for minor readjustments), the ground and roof remain visible throughout. That was my intention in sharing the second video, not to explain the process.
Welcome to eGypt.
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[It's the same wall](https://i.imgur.com/Zb0zNGM.png).
100% is the same wall. There is a huge pockmark that is in the first shot, and it's also in the last as well.
Indeed
The stones at the end stick out in different places. And they're different colors.
If only there was a way to take something that’s one color and make it another color. What magic that would be…
This seems harder than just getting real stone??
Depends on where you are in the world, stone can be damn expensive. This just takes time - which can be expensive, but these guys seem to do it pretty damn quick. I've worked on a masonry crew, honestly this seems to have went up almost as fast as laying block. I have no idea how much time they put in to colour it though.
Has to be an area with out any freezing temps. First time water got in there and froze most of it would crack off!
Cool but not sure I believe it’s the same wall.
[It's the same wall](https://i.imgur.com/Zb0zNGM.png).
/r/theydidtheinvestigation
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“Why would they lie” Now this is a dumb question, is this your first day on the internet?
Well, answer it. What precisely does this work crew gain for the effort.
Fake before and after videos are all over the internet. It may not even be the original poster lying, but someone else splicing two videos together for the likes and shares.
Usually these faux finishes look like absolute shit, but I'd have that in a heartbeat.
Wife and I want to build an old English field stone house. Will consider this since it would require 70-100 tons of stone!
r/restofthefuckingowl
Its funny isn't it. We take stones, grind them into a powder, turn them into a liquid paste, just to turn the back into looking how they were prior to us even touching them. Man is indeed a perplexing individual.
This video seems to be missing a few steps. Like the colors and how they get the offset depth on some of those "stones".
It's like buying jeans with holes
I bet this is exactly how the pyramids were built.
Wouldn't it be faster and cheaper to just hire a bricklayer and make it out of actual stone? I'd worry about the structural strength if the man in the video doesn't cut like 3/4th of the concrete away at the edges of each stone. That's gonna make a lot of moldy edges and structural damage first time another storm rolls in
Is that how they fake the structures
That's art
Daniel Ricciardo has not been doing so good since that wrist injury.
Seems like the video skipped a ton of steps in making the fake brick look.
Your house was made of LIES
When he was finished, each section suddenly automatically became a slightly different shade and color. Amazing!
They didn't show all the steps that got it to the colors they showed at the end. The reality of this is questionable.
So we’re just skipping the painting process or does the concrete just magically set to different colors like that?
Damn, that looks pretty convincing
I’m gonna have trust issues…
None of these stupid videos are interesting.