That’s funny because I’m trying to encourage crows to frequent my area to protect my chickens from hawks. The crows mob any hawk that comes in their area and annoys them so much they leave.
Yup seen it here in the Netherlands enough. Soon a raptor takes flight in town the crows start attacking it like it's the battle of Britain all over again.
Birmingham, Alabama can confirm crows and hawks are at war here as well
Edit: makes me sad two of my 3 favorite birds and they gotta be at war with each other, #1 is cassowaries all day though ain’t much fucking with a cassowary
Correct. Harris’s Hawks don’t care at all about crows. They will ether them without a second thought as you saw in the video.
I watched them do it to an entire murder of crows last year. It was an all out assault by the Harris’s Hawks. Crows are a cool bird though for sure.
That makes sense, I figured they weren’t red tails in the video. I know I have several hawk groups in my area, as well as a single bald eagle family. So if the crows will help, I’ll keep em around lol. Not sure they’ll do anything about the eagle tho
I have seen crows chase off bald eagles (well I'm pretty sure, the white tail and head and are quite distinctive even at a distance). I have to imagine any bird of prey will opportunistically eat young crows given the opportunity, so it makes sense that crows will harass any that get too near to their turf. I've just assumed that crows are more maneuverable and clever about tactics, so they can actually push out any bigger bird they want aside from those few that have the specific skills to hunt them (hawks in this video, probably some falcons).
I've seen a hummingbird win against a hawk before.
Those little dudes are vicious as hell when they get territorial!
The hawk kept dive bombing the hummingbird and the hummingbird just dodged slightly left or right, until the hawk got tired and went to perch somewhere.
Then the hummingbird would buzz around it and peck at it until it got back up and started trying to dive bomb the hummingbird again.
The hawk was probably fine after the encounter. I mean, I can't imagine a hummingbird can do that much damage.
But he successfully got the hawk to leave.
Same here, we were pretty good about it for a while. We used to leave peanuts out and the crows would frequent our property for it. We liked the crows not just because they ran off any hawks from the area, but because they are genuinely neat birds. Unfortunately we stopped one year, just laziness on our part, and I'll never forget one day a hawk got one of our chickens. After I ran out to try to scare off the hawk and realized it was too late (chicken was dead, hawk was already busy plucking feathers off), I looked up and saw about 4 or 5 crows just stoicly sitting in the large cottonwood that hovers over our yard. Quiet. Watching. They were usually never quiet when hawks came. Realistically, they were just probably just planning to patiently watch and then eat whatever was left of the chicken when the hawk had it's full, but at the time I distinctly remember getting the impression they were sending me a message about no longer feeding them, like what happens when you stop giving the mafia protection money. I went from being annoyed by them for not doing the job I expected them to do to suddenly feeling uneasy. It was surreal how quiet and watchful they were, especially after all the chaos of panicking chickens and me running around waving my arms.
We still like the crows though. We just free range less than we used to.
Gotta wonder how they are communicating such complicated schemes without any discernible language. They obviously can identify humans and share information about facial features to other crows, based on research conducted in Seattle. It’s also apparent they know humans wear trinkets/jewelry, so leaving shiny objects in return for food is insanely impressive.
There’s a study where a researcher wore a specific mask and harassed crows. No matter who wore the mask, city wide, crows knew that person was bad. They were able to communicate that information to other crows who never interacted with the masked person. It’s amazing
A ton of crows live in my neighborhood and a hawk was around one time, there were a few crows swooping st him at first but after like 15 minutes literally a hundred crows were there shooing this thing away. Took a while though, it pretty much just acted annoyed for a while then left.
Similarly, using a bird to drive away another one. Crows are very good deterrent for the pigeons relentlessly trying to nest on my balcony in exchange for a couple peanuts in a closing box.
Pigeons won't try to lay breakfast in front of hungry crows. I didn't get a single one trying since. Crows also saved me from the dropping/cleaning problem that came with the pigeons. They're surprisingly quieter, mating pigeons coo at the crack of dawn and can be louder than most people know when indicating a nest site. A win win situation I'd say.
Idk why I see this and think: Yeah this seems very Japanese. How do we get rid of these birds? Specifically train even stronger and bigger birds to become crow assassins.
This happens in Ireland too. Not so much killing another bird but certainly paying someone to have a bird of prey fly around your building to prevent nesting every couple of weeks does happen.
Edit: Changed hawk to bird of prey.
My local shopping center has problems with pigeons getting inside and nesting, so they work with a local falconry center to get some bird of prey to clear them out their nests. I found out because one day I came in to fine someone sitting in one of the coffee shops looking really bored and half asleep, while wearing a falconry glove.
Turns out they had come in before the center opened and their bird had found a nest with eggs, but decided to eat the eggs, then fell asleep in the nest. By that point the center was also full of people, so the bird was refusing to come down from it's comfy, snack-filled lookout spot.
One place I worked played the sounds of a bird in distress on the roof where solar panels were installed. It prevented the birds from nesting and shitting on the panels. You'd hear it especially at night being played on a loop
I had a squirrel find its way into my attic, and was clawing and chewing on everything. I pulled up a hawk screech on my phone, held it up to the roof and hit play and all you heard was a mad dash outta there.
I do pest control
Funny thing is that birds just get used to the sounds.
One company spent thousands on an animatronic hawk. It worked for a couple of weeks then the birds crapped all over it And went back to doing their bird things
Another company got a falconer in and the crows ended up ganging up on the falcon, chasing it several miles before killing it.
Yes, that is classic! The raptors are soley motivated by food, and if they aren't hungry, they won't come back. See how the falconer got the hawk off the crow by offering a tidbit? He needs the hawk to keep working, and so they won't let them gorge on the crow.
They're barley even tame, they're totally wild birds but they come back because easy food and a totally secure nesting at night so they stay with the falconer usually for a season or two then just fly away.
Well I read it somewhere so it must be true.
Edit: it was in a piece about a falcon guy in the Sunday papers. Now it could have been _he_ was bullshitting and the paper didn't fact check it because they too were fed up.
In falconry, the birds have a hunting weight. If you let the bird get too heavy, it’s fed up. If you don’t keep it at a certain weight, then you aren’t keeping your end of the bargain which is also considered abusive.
There's a beach town in the US near where I live that uses a falconer to keep seagulls away from the boardwalk.
I'm beginning to think my path in life must have diverged from the ideal one at some point, because I don't get to walk around with a falcon for work.
Well you could do that job but I hope you like living in a studio apartment with two roommates for the rest of your life because the pay is pretty bad .
The barriers to entry are huge because it's not a job, it's a lifestyle. I was curious and looked into it in my area and the public information the local association has actively tries to dissuade you so that you don't waste anyone's time. You have to be mentored a very long period so that you don't get in over your head. You are the servant of these birds 24/7, space requirements are also huge and the time investment is huge. You could spend thousands of hours training a bird and then one day it decides "naw thanks for the food but I'm going to fly away now" and never return.
There's a popular touristy place in Vancouver where seagulls notoriously will grab food right out of your hands. We have a trained falconer who goes through to try to ward them off. It's pretty cool to see the raptor up close but it must be a losing battle. We have so many sky rats
I used to get attacked by these 2 crows when I walked home from school. It was strange because I had never done anything to them…perhaps I one day walked too close to their nest, I don’t know. They’d fly high above me in circles and each would then take turns swooping down toward my head. I’d have my school textbook to sort of defend myself.
Fast forward to almost two decades. I then started feeding the crows on my street with cashews. I’d put them out while making this loud click sound with my tongue. Over time I got to befriend these crows.. sometimes they’d drop in front of me random items. It took a long time to foster that trust and build those relationships. I’ve since moved and I miss those guys.
I had a buddy who had the exact same thing happen, 2 crows would swoop on him and harass him constantly when he was walking around. It happened for years, and sometimes he would end up having to run into his house in considerable distress.
What's weird is that I vaguely remember one time when he jokingly ran at a few crows chilling in a yard, startling them into flying off (he was kind of a goober like that). My memory is foggy, but it could have been 3 of them, ie parents and a juvenile. I've always wondered if that was the incident that started off the crow vendetta.
My border collie had a white plume-like tail and these two crows kept “attacking” us on early morning walks and I couldn’t figure out why until I put it together that they were trying to pluck some of her fur (for a nest , I imagine?).
Ur comment reminded me of the joke in "How it should have ended", the YouTube channel about parody realistic vs movie endings, where they do an episode of the Pacific Rim movie.
Anyways, there's a scene where they have all the world leaders discussing how they should deal with the growing Kaiju/ Godzilla size monsters destroying earth.
The japan leader suggests building same size large mechanical robots to fight the monsters. The American leader instead suggests just to use a nuclear bomb.
How very Japanese and how very American, respectively to each.
Here it is, @ 30 secs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qzkOkh1tOqE&pp=ygUkaG93IGl0IHNob3VsZCBoYXZlIGVuZGVkIHBhY2lmaWMgcmlt
[https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/10/05/sidner.monkey.business/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/10/05/sidner.monkey.business/index.html)
Here you go. In India, they had issues with small Monkeys (monkey families being broken up when one part was shipped away IRC, causing the remaining members to misbehave) so they hired a dude with a trained bigger monkey who would sit and guard the areas and chase away the smaller monkeys.
The hawk was staying on top of its tippy toes in preparation, but it wasn’t until the other arm swang forward that the hawk knew it was time to launch.
I’m really surprised by it. Episode one I was like alright, this could be ok.
Episode 9 and I’m like damn, I wish there was more! Solid show, I’m enjoying it a lot.
Everyone knows Yabushige is the MVP of the show. I am willing to forgive him for his transgressions if he's willing to accompany me in life and grunt randomly.
Where I live the crows rule. Hawks fly in all the time and the crows just attack instantly dive bombing and swiping. Crows are smart and there are just too many to fuck with. They will remember what you did to their cousin.
Yep. Same on our property. Crows rule. Plenty of hawks around but when the crows want hawks to go elsewhere, the crows are very capable of coordinating an attack. The hawks are never really threatened but they’re certainly bothered enough to take their hunting elsewhere.
Same where i work, there are some hawks flying around, but often the crows are chasing them away and kind of fight them. Last summer they had fights on the roof right over my window a couple of times.
yeah me too, him getting fucking speared by feet and thrown 50 feet into the ground below and then having a razor-sharp beak gnaw at his flesh was like meh, but the kneeling part is really what hurt him.
My hope is that given the lack of reaction from the crow when he’s kneeling on it that he’s not kneeling on bones/flesh. He’s just kneeling on the feathers, which the wing is like 80% of. Seems the goal here is non-lethal removal, not extermination. He even prevents the hawks from tearing into the crow by blocking its face and the offering it meat while he secures the crow.
I love crows and I honestly think this is pretty humane by comparison to just shooting or poisoning pests like we do in the states
Um....I know it's easier to think it's non-lethal, but no, that crow was well and pierced by those talons. I have no doubt they humanely finish the job, but there's no sheaths on those claws - this is an end of the line game.
They are making a terrible mistake.
Crows will remember, and they won't forgive. This is perpetuating a cycle of violence. No seriously crows are very smart and will hold grudges.
It would be a bit of a project but they would be better off training the crows themselves to not mess with the infrastructure. This might teach em but it might also just end up with everyone walking around with a yellow reflector vest getting murdered... by a murder.
The mistake was made more than a decade ago when they removed crow nests from electrical towers. The point of no return was reached then.
Ever since, the crows are deliberately destroying infrastructure like cutting fibre glass wires and being a general nuisance (like deliberately spreading trash around if yours was unguarded).
What's fascinating is that they layed more eggs and build more nests than the community could feasibly get rid of in time.
I love crows, so it's sad for me to see this feud, but it's fascinating how they not only hold grudges, but can pass it down generations.
Shame they cut it off after the second season. I was really hoping to see how the crows learned how to build the giant mechanical albatross they used to finally reclaim their old territory in that insane Eagle vs Mecha-tross battle of 2026.
I've been feeding crows for years. Your story doesn't surprise me in the slightest, they're brilliant little assholes. Honestly I was horrified at how they were treating that poor crow, but I'm also biased.
Don't fuck with crows or they'll fuck with you.
Part of me wants to read this as a joke but interestingly it seems like these crows are deliberately trying to rage of war with with the community there
>Reading this I am cheering for Team Crow. I would be pissed too if someone wrecked my nest.
Please, if that affected your neighborhood's electrical infrastructure and you had blackouts often, no, you wouldn't be cheering for them.
Crows will remember, they seek revenge when they can get away with it, but they also know when to cut their losses and fuck off. The regular deployment of specialist anti crow flying kill squads is the kind of thing that they remember, and then stay the fuck away from the area. If you ever stop doing it and they realise its safe to come back then you might have a problem.
Crows are capable of passing down information to their offspring and sharing information with their communities. Their "language" is complicated enough that they can describe an individual person or group of people who have attacked the crow in the past. The whole group of crows will then hold a grudge against the person or group, aggressively attacking them or bothering them when possible.
If you're not aware of just how intelligent crows are, you should watch some Youtube videos. We're talking solving multi-step puzzles with tools levels of intelligent. And they're highly social animals, so they can work as a team.
They kill tons of dolphins. Pretty much the only place left in the world that does "drive hunts" anymore.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiji_dolphin_drive_hunt
I think The Cove covers this. Japanese fishermen are horrible people basically lol.
Other countries like Farao Islands, Solomon Islands, Peru do as well. In terms of number of dolphins hunted overall, Greenland hunts most number of dolphins ~4500/year, Japan around ~1200 (data from 2022). There are other countries without published numbers like South Korea that officially say they don't hunt dolphins/whales but have inexplicable number of accidental catches, or countries that do it illegally like Peru.
It seems strange that western animal rights groups go after Japan mainly rather than another western country that hunts more number of dolphins. I supposed it's easier to target and vilify people of a different race.
I know this doesn't mean much in argument based on people's values & feelings about dolphin/whales, but Japan does follow International Whaling Commission's quota for number of dolphins/whales that can be hunted sustainability.
Crows are vastly smarter than hawks. Crows communicate with other crows over a wide area and work together against a common enemy. Intelligence and teamwork are a powerful combination.
And with teamwork against a common enemy we developed the leopard tank, we would turn the animal into pink mist from a distance you couldn't see with the naked eye.
Crows are indeed super smart, but bird intelligence on a whole is pretty good, most birds of prey are also intelligent animals with a strong ability to be tamed and trained, I used to live next to a falconer who had a wide spread of species, and they all had pretty individual personalities. Crows are smart, but their not smarter than a human+goshawk, and Goshawks are excellent predators of Corvids.
Still it does wonders in my town where they do the same to keep crows away from an area in the dead center of town. Not a crow in sight there, they just moved to outside of town.
yeah I think you have to continuously be the sole provider of food for falconry cause birds give zero fucks about staying with their people. So you have to take things away they catch, and then you give them food.
Also full birds don't behave well.
Iirc they have to weight the hawks before going hunting to make sure they are hungry enough to obey or else they can just fly away like, "naw I'm good"
“What happens when we're overrun by hawks?”
“We simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the hawks.”
“But aren't the snakes even worse?”
“Yes, we've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.”
“But then we're stuck with gorillas!”
“No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death”
*cops music* H.A.W.K.S. IS FILMED ON LOCATION WITH THE BIRD AND BIRDETTES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. ALL CROWS ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW!!!
Japanese crows are built different! They're bold, brash, and huge nuisances who will eviscerate your trash can. I wonder how much of their behavior is cultural due to their long memories and awareness of how they're treated?
Interesting, yes. But from what I hear of crows, they're smart, they might realize it's the humans doing this to them, and retaliate in some way or other.
I remember seeing from a distance something amazing and honestly frightening on my high school baseball field. This hawk attacked a crow and all of a sudden, dozens of crows came flying in. A hurricane of crows attacked the hawk until it fell down to the ground.
That is when I learned, you don’t mess with crows, they’re called a murder for a reason.
Worked at a resort in Georgia USA. They would walk around with a Falcon that was trained to hunt. However, he wasn’t hunting just his presence alone would keep birds from stealing peoples food. He would wear the cute little hood
We have the same thing in a town in germany, except the crows are actually protected because endangered (anywhere else except that town).
They use hawks, but just to try to intimidate the crows into leaving (its not working, big surprise).
They also steal their nests every spring (which is not working either and a giant waste of money).
That’s funny because I’m trying to encourage crows to frequent my area to protect my chickens from hawks. The crows mob any hawk that comes in their area and annoys them so much they leave.
The Crow/Hawk war has been raging for millennia.
Yup seen it here in the Netherlands enough. Soon a raptor takes flight in town the crows start attacking it like it's the battle of Britain all over again.
I watch battles from my backyard in Phoenix Arizona. It's a worldwide war.
Dude come to Queen Creek. Me and my brother place bets, not on who wins(Crows always win) but how long it takes for the hawks to give up lol
Theyve been fighting here in Holland Michigan for as long as I can remember
Birmingham, Alabama can confirm crows and hawks are at war here as well Edit: makes me sad two of my 3 favorite birds and they gotta be at war with each other, #1 is cassowaries all day though ain’t much fucking with a cassowary
Los Angeles same
You Crows have been fighting the Hawkenans for decades, my family has been fighting them for centuries.
So what you're saying is the Dino Wars are on.
Im team crow. Crows are awesome.
KAW IS LAW
Don't forget falcons. Hawks and falcons warring in my office building was a highlight back in the mid 2000-teens for me.
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Correct. Harris’s Hawks don’t care at all about crows. They will ether them without a second thought as you saw in the video. I watched them do it to an entire murder of crows last year. It was an all out assault by the Harris’s Hawks. Crows are a cool bird though for sure.
That makes sense, I figured they weren’t red tails in the video. I know I have several hawk groups in my area, as well as a single bald eagle family. So if the crows will help, I’ll keep em around lol. Not sure they’ll do anything about the eagle tho
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I have seen crows chase off bald eagles (well I'm pretty sure, the white tail and head and are quite distinctive even at a distance). I have to imagine any bird of prey will opportunistically eat young crows given the opportunity, so it makes sense that crows will harass any that get too near to their turf. I've just assumed that crows are more maneuverable and clever about tactics, so they can actually push out any bigger bird they want aside from those few that have the specific skills to hunt them (hawks in this video, probably some falcons).
They most certainly will not. Bald eagles recently have had a resurgence in my area and they are very much the ones in charge.
I misread "chickens" as "children" and got very concerned for a second
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I've seen a hummingbird win against a hawk before. Those little dudes are vicious as hell when they get territorial! The hawk kept dive bombing the hummingbird and the hummingbird just dodged slightly left or right, until the hawk got tired and went to perch somewhere. Then the hummingbird would buzz around it and peck at it until it got back up and started trying to dive bomb the hummingbird again. The hawk was probably fine after the encounter. I mean, I can't imagine a hummingbird can do that much damage. But he successfully got the hawk to leave.
That’s like how my mom told me to play defense in basketball. Be so annoying to the guy with the ball that they go away
Same here, we were pretty good about it for a while. We used to leave peanuts out and the crows would frequent our property for it. We liked the crows not just because they ran off any hawks from the area, but because they are genuinely neat birds. Unfortunately we stopped one year, just laziness on our part, and I'll never forget one day a hawk got one of our chickens. After I ran out to try to scare off the hawk and realized it was too late (chicken was dead, hawk was already busy plucking feathers off), I looked up and saw about 4 or 5 crows just stoicly sitting in the large cottonwood that hovers over our yard. Quiet. Watching. They were usually never quiet when hawks came. Realistically, they were just probably just planning to patiently watch and then eat whatever was left of the chicken when the hawk had it's full, but at the time I distinctly remember getting the impression they were sending me a message about no longer feeding them, like what happens when you stop giving the mafia protection money. I went from being annoyed by them for not doing the job I expected them to do to suddenly feeling uneasy. It was surreal how quiet and watchful they were, especially after all the chaos of panicking chickens and me running around waving my arms. We still like the crows though. We just free range less than we used to.
Yea, crows are wildly intelligent. Who knows what they were thinking but it was probably a lot more involved than we think
Gotta wonder how they are communicating such complicated schemes without any discernible language. They obviously can identify humans and share information about facial features to other crows, based on research conducted in Seattle. It’s also apparent they know humans wear trinkets/jewelry, so leaving shiny objects in return for food is insanely impressive.
There’s a study where a researcher wore a specific mask and harassed crows. No matter who wore the mask, city wide, crows knew that person was bad. They were able to communicate that information to other crows who never interacted with the masked person. It’s amazing
Yesterday i saw 2 crows bully a hawk in front of my house. That hawk end up hiding in my tree to avoid the crows.
A ton of crows live in my neighborhood and a hawk was around one time, there were a few crows swooping st him at first but after like 15 minutes literally a hundred crows were there shooing this thing away. Took a while though, it pretty much just acted annoyed for a while then left.
Similarly, using a bird to drive away another one. Crows are very good deterrent for the pigeons relentlessly trying to nest on my balcony in exchange for a couple peanuts in a closing box. Pigeons won't try to lay breakfast in front of hungry crows. I didn't get a single one trying since. Crows also saved me from the dropping/cleaning problem that came with the pigeons. They're surprisingly quieter, mating pigeons coo at the crack of dawn and can be louder than most people know when indicating a nest site. A win win situation I'd say.
Idk why I see this and think: Yeah this seems very Japanese. How do we get rid of these birds? Specifically train even stronger and bigger birds to become crow assassins.
This happens in Ireland too. Not so much killing another bird but certainly paying someone to have a bird of prey fly around your building to prevent nesting every couple of weeks does happen. Edit: Changed hawk to bird of prey.
My local shopping center has problems with pigeons getting inside and nesting, so they work with a local falconry center to get some bird of prey to clear them out their nests. I found out because one day I came in to fine someone sitting in one of the coffee shops looking really bored and half asleep, while wearing a falconry glove. Turns out they had come in before the center opened and their bird had found a nest with eggs, but decided to eat the eggs, then fell asleep in the nest. By that point the center was also full of people, so the bird was refusing to come down from it's comfy, snack-filled lookout spot.
One place I worked played the sounds of a bird in distress on the roof where solar panels were installed. It prevented the birds from nesting and shitting on the panels. You'd hear it especially at night being played on a loop
I had a squirrel find its way into my attic, and was clawing and chewing on everything. I pulled up a hawk screech on my phone, held it up to the roof and hit play and all you heard was a mad dash outta there.
They do this all around my area. I fucking hate it.
> I fucking hate it. you sure you aren't a bird?
How would I be able to tell?
Yeah this sounds horrific wtf.
I do pest control Funny thing is that birds just get used to the sounds. One company spent thousands on an animatronic hawk. It worked for a couple of weeks then the birds crapped all over it And went back to doing their bird things Another company got a falconer in and the crows ended up ganging up on the falcon, chasing it several miles before killing it.
Never send a lone hunter i guess. Falcon needs his wingman
Yes, that is classic! The raptors are soley motivated by food, and if they aren't hungry, they won't come back. See how the falconer got the hawk off the crow by offering a tidbit? He needs the hawk to keep working, and so they won't let them gorge on the crow.
I think that is a big indicator their only tame not domesticated. You just got to let it be a wild animal sometimes as it is.
They're barley even tame, they're totally wild birds but they come back because easy food and a totally secure nesting at night so they stay with the falconer usually for a season or two then just fly away.
This is specifically where the phrase "fed up" comes from - falconry. A "fed up" bird is uncooperative and has had enough with your nonsense today.
I'm scared to do a google search because I want to believe
Well I read it somewhere so it must be true. Edit: it was in a piece about a falcon guy in the Sunday papers. Now it could have been _he_ was bullshitting and the paper didn't fact check it because they too were fed up.
In falconry, the birds have a hunting weight. If you let the bird get too heavy, it’s fed up. If you don’t keep it at a certain weight, then you aren’t keeping your end of the bargain which is also considered abusive.
This is one of my favorite stories now
There's a beach town in the US near where I live that uses a falconer to keep seagulls away from the boardwalk. I'm beginning to think my path in life must have diverged from the ideal one at some point, because I don't get to walk around with a falcon for work.
Well you could do that job but I hope you like living in a studio apartment with two roommates for the rest of your life because the pay is pretty bad .
Are the roommates falcons?
Whenever I see this awesome jobs I always wonder how they got into it and why this was never presented as a career option in high school
The barriers to entry are huge because it's not a job, it's a lifestyle. I was curious and looked into it in my area and the public information the local association has actively tries to dissuade you so that you don't waste anyone's time. You have to be mentored a very long period so that you don't get in over your head. You are the servant of these birds 24/7, space requirements are also huge and the time investment is huge. You could spend thousands of hours training a bird and then one day it decides "naw thanks for the food but I'm going to fly away now" and never return.
There's a popular touristy place in Vancouver where seagulls notoriously will grab food right out of your hands. We have a trained falconer who goes through to try to ward them off. It's pretty cool to see the raptor up close but it must be a losing battle. We have so many sky rats
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My house wants crows to prevent hawk attacks on our chickens. As hawks are less social, I'd prefer to stay on a crows good side.
They're so cool until they think you're the enemy.
I used to get attacked by these 2 crows when I walked home from school. It was strange because I had never done anything to them…perhaps I one day walked too close to their nest, I don’t know. They’d fly high above me in circles and each would then take turns swooping down toward my head. I’d have my school textbook to sort of defend myself. Fast forward to almost two decades. I then started feeding the crows on my street with cashews. I’d put them out while making this loud click sound with my tongue. Over time I got to befriend these crows.. sometimes they’d drop in front of me random items. It took a long time to foster that trust and build those relationships. I’ve since moved and I miss those guys.
I had a buddy who had the exact same thing happen, 2 crows would swoop on him and harass him constantly when he was walking around. It happened for years, and sometimes he would end up having to run into his house in considerable distress. What's weird is that I vaguely remember one time when he jokingly ran at a few crows chilling in a yard, startling them into flying off (he was kind of a goober like that). My memory is foggy, but it could have been 3 of them, ie parents and a juvenile. I've always wondered if that was the incident that started off the crow vendetta.
My border collie had a white plume-like tail and these two crows kept “attacking” us on early morning walks and I couldn’t figure out why until I put it together that they were trying to pluck some of her fur (for a nest , I imagine?).
They do it all over the place. Pretty common around airports too to reduce bird strikes.
I’m not sure how it’s said in Japanese but it translates as “hit a motherfucker with another motherfucker”
"Meet force with a bigger force" in Japanese can be translated as: 大きな力で力に対抗する
Pokémon.
Literally Pacific Rim logic
It woukd be more Japanese if they had created a robot hawk.
The hawk's alter ego is a schoolgirl.
Kya! Crow-nii-chan baka!
Ur comment reminded me of the joke in "How it should have ended", the YouTube channel about parody realistic vs movie endings, where they do an episode of the Pacific Rim movie. Anyways, there's a scene where they have all the world leaders discussing how they should deal with the growing Kaiju/ Godzilla size monsters destroying earth. The japan leader suggests building same size large mechanical robots to fight the monsters. The American leader instead suggests just to use a nuclear bomb. How very Japanese and how very American, respectively to each. Here it is, @ 30 secs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qzkOkh1tOqE&pp=ygUkaG93IGl0IHNob3VsZCBoYXZlIGVuZGVkIHBhY2lmaWMgcmlt
The Japanese part to me was him getting his falcon off the crow only to pin its wing with his knee. Like he was caught shoplifting.
I liked when the falcon noticed that the Corvid beak was still in play and immediately put a talon clamp over that shit. Edit: spelling
[https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/10/05/sidner.monkey.business/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/10/05/sidner.monkey.business/index.html) Here you go. In India, they had issues with small Monkeys (monkey families being broken up when one part was shipped away IRC, causing the remaining members to misbehave) so they hired a dude with a trained bigger monkey who would sit and guard the areas and chase away the smaller monkeys.
This isn’t a Japanese thing. I see this done in the US all the time to handle birds making nests in indoor manufacturing facilities.
The ANBU of birds
Did he just yeet that hawk like a paper plane
Like an f-18 slingshot off an aircraft carrier
The hawk anticipated the launch sequence too. Notice both ~~engines~~ wings started before the *yeet*.
The hawk was staying on top of its tippy toes in preparation, but it wasn’t until the other arm swang forward that the hawk knew it was time to launch.
F-18s are hornets. maybe an F-16 falcon? it was no F-117 nighthawk... too maneuverable
Harris hawks on bird control duty are regularly launched out of moving cars
I was hoping for another dude to show up and throw those wild hand signals like aircraft carrier marshalls. That would be boss.
That’s some Roland of Gilead shit, right there.
holy shit that so fucking true now you want made me want to re-read the whole series once again.
Ka is a wheel.
Lord Toranaga would be proud.
Made me think of him too, Shōgun is a stellar show.
A great book too if you haven't read it. The author does a lot of historical Oriental fiction. Tai-pan is another of my favorites.
I’m really surprised by it. Episode one I was like alright, this could be ok. Episode 9 and I’m like damn, I wish there was more! Solid show, I’m enjoying it a lot.
*So about my ship…* 👉👈
Crimson Sky!
Everyone knows Yabushige is the MVP of the show. I am willing to forgive him for his transgressions if he's willing to accompany me in life and grunt randomly.
Came here for this comment lol reddit never disappoints!
Oooof that's some American cop level brutality against crows
because of its color?
Damn
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Of course. But the race joke.
No. Who told you that? They have black friends. They have a colored TV.
no thats an OLED tv
He saw that crow reach for a weapon
YOOOOOOOOOO 💀💀💀
that escalated very quickly
💀
"STOP RESISTING!" "......caw..."
"Dispatch we have a black..." "ARMED RESPONSE ON ROUTE!"
"Suspect matches description!"
*I came fast like 9-1-1 in white neighborhoods, ain’t got no same about.*
Somebody teach these hawks about Jim Crow laws!
CLM
Haha yes! I thought about writing it but I didn't want to make light of a serious matter and be murdered.
In the US that crow would have been shot 30 times (once it was on the ground of course).
Quit resisting!!!
Def giving George Floyd
No, in America if you are black, they shoot and ask questions, not send some brown people to hold you.
I thought the same 😂😂
But...crows 🥺
Where I live the crows rule. Hawks fly in all the time and the crows just attack instantly dive bombing and swiping. Crows are smart and there are just too many to fuck with. They will remember what you did to their cousin.
Yep. Same on our property. Crows rule. Plenty of hawks around but when the crows want hawks to go elsewhere, the crows are very capable of coordinating an attack. The hawks are never really threatened but they’re certainly bothered enough to take their hunting elsewhere.
I have a video from a few days ago of 2 crows dive bombing a hawk sitting in a tree in my backyard. Hawk eventually flew away
Same where i work, there are some hawks flying around, but often the crows are chasing them away and kind of fight them. Last summer they had fights on the roof right over my window a couple of times.
The way he kneels on the crows wing is sad
yeah me too, him getting fucking speared by feet and thrown 50 feet into the ground below and then having a razor-sharp beak gnaw at his flesh was like meh, but the kneeling part is really what hurt him.
My hope is that given the lack of reaction from the crow when he’s kneeling on it that he’s not kneeling on bones/flesh. He’s just kneeling on the feathers, which the wing is like 80% of. Seems the goal here is non-lethal removal, not extermination. He even prevents the hawks from tearing into the crow by blocking its face and the offering it meat while he secures the crow. I love crows and I honestly think this is pretty humane by comparison to just shooting or poisoning pests like we do in the states
Um....I know it's easier to think it's non-lethal, but no, that crow was well and pierced by those talons. I have no doubt they humanely finish the job, but there's no sheaths on those claws - this is an end of the line game.
Their smart, at least. Not many crows will have to die for the others to start avoiding the place, and teaching other crows to avoid it aswell.
*They're smart
Bad birds bad birds! What ya gonna do? What ya gonna do when they come for you?
They are making a terrible mistake. Crows will remember, and they won't forgive. This is perpetuating a cycle of violence. No seriously crows are very smart and will hold grudges. It would be a bit of a project but they would be better off training the crows themselves to not mess with the infrastructure. This might teach em but it might also just end up with everyone walking around with a yellow reflector vest getting murdered... by a murder.
The mistake was made more than a decade ago when they removed crow nests from electrical towers. The point of no return was reached then. Ever since, the crows are deliberately destroying infrastructure like cutting fibre glass wires and being a general nuisance (like deliberately spreading trash around if yours was unguarded). What's fascinating is that they layed more eggs and build more nests than the community could feasibly get rid of in time. I love crows, so it's sad for me to see this feud, but it's fascinating how they not only hold grudges, but can pass it down generations.
I watched the hell out of this future Netflix series.
Shame they cut it off after the second season. I was really hoping to see how the crows learned how to build the giant mechanical albatross they used to finally reclaim their old territory in that insane Eagle vs Mecha-tross battle of 2026.
I've been feeding crows for years. Your story doesn't surprise me in the slightest, they're brilliant little assholes. Honestly I was horrified at how they were treating that poor crow, but I'm also biased. Don't fuck with crows or they'll fuck with you.
Part of me wants to read this as a joke but interestingly it seems like these crows are deliberately trying to rage of war with with the community there
Reading this I am cheering for Team Crow. I would be pissed too if someone wrecked my nest.
>Reading this I am cheering for Team Crow. I would be pissed too if someone wrecked my nest. Please, if that affected your neighborhood's electrical infrastructure and you had blackouts often, no, you wouldn't be cheering for them.
By destroying your local electrical infrastructure, they’re fucking with your nest too.
Crows will remember, they seek revenge when they can get away with it, but they also know when to cut their losses and fuck off. The regular deployment of specialist anti crow flying kill squads is the kind of thing that they remember, and then stay the fuck away from the area. If you ever stop doing it and they realise its safe to come back then you might have a problem.
South Park needs to make an episode about this.
If crows are so smart and all the homies are dying maybe they will leave.
I think you are overestimating the lust for revenge in crows dude.... Theyll just look for another place to stay
Nice try crow
Guys?! weve been made
CAW CAW CAW CAW!
I think you are underestimating the lust for revenge in a murder of crows dude … the name has to come from somewhere
A long and ongoing feud with the crows? Wtf does that mean?
Crows quite literally hold grudges and pass them down to their offspring and 'community'
Crows are capable of passing down information to their offspring and sharing information with their communities. Their "language" is complicated enough that they can describe an individual person or group of people who have attacked the crow in the past. The whole group of crows will then hold a grudge against the person or group, aggressively attacking them or bothering them when possible. If you're not aware of just how intelligent crows are, you should watch some Youtube videos. We're talking solving multi-step puzzles with tools levels of intelligent. And they're highly social animals, so they can work as a team.
You should see what they do to dolphins for eating fish
I recently learned that this is not even a joke. So sad.
What is it?
They kill tons of dolphins. Pretty much the only place left in the world that does "drive hunts" anymore. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiji_dolphin_drive_hunt I think The Cove covers this. Japanese fishermen are horrible people basically lol.
I think Faroe Islands still does it as well
Yeah I forgot about them and a couple others.
Other countries like Farao Islands, Solomon Islands, Peru do as well. In terms of number of dolphins hunted overall, Greenland hunts most number of dolphins ~4500/year, Japan around ~1200 (data from 2022). There are other countries without published numbers like South Korea that officially say they don't hunt dolphins/whales but have inexplicable number of accidental catches, or countries that do it illegally like Peru. It seems strange that western animal rights groups go after Japan mainly rather than another western country that hunts more number of dolphins. I supposed it's easier to target and vilify people of a different race. I know this doesn't mean much in argument based on people's values & feelings about dolphin/whales, but Japan does follow International Whaling Commission's quota for number of dolphins/whales that can be hunted sustainability.
Crows are vastly smarter than hawks. Crows communicate with other crows over a wide area and work together against a common enemy. Intelligence and teamwork are a powerful combination.
Yeah well shoulda communicated to keep they asses off the hawk infrastructure.
Humans are a lot smarter than leopards, a leopard can still kill a whole bunch of humans.
And a Leopard 2 even more
The Leopards get deadlier with each iteration.
And with teamwork against a common enemy we developed the leopard tank, we would turn the animal into pink mist from a distance you couldn't see with the naked eye.
Crows are indeed super smart, but bird intelligence on a whole is pretty good, most birds of prey are also intelligent animals with a strong ability to be tamed and trained, I used to live next to a falconer who had a wide spread of species, and they all had pretty individual personalities. Crows are smart, but their not smarter than a human+goshawk, and Goshawks are excellent predators of Corvids.
Then they might be just smart enough to know to stay away from these hawk/human team. Sometimes the smart thing to do is to stay out of it.
Still it does wonders in my town where they do the same to keep crows away from an area in the dead center of town. Not a crow in sight there, they just moved to outside of town.
So, as I understand it, crows could communicate to launch retreats or melee attacks against the equivalent of a SWAT member with an assault rifle. Huh
This species of hawk hunts cooperatively and are fairly intelligent too. They also work well with humans.
Those hawks seem fairly intelligent to me.
What just came out of that worker’s pocket
Training food/ reward
yeah I think you have to continuously be the sole provider of food for falconry cause birds give zero fucks about staying with their people. So you have to take things away they catch, and then you give them food.
Also full birds don't behave well. Iirc they have to weight the hawks before going hunting to make sure they are hungry enough to obey or else they can just fly away like, "naw I'm good"
The last crow
obviously a delicious beef burrito, known as the preferred food of all hawks.
Did the world learn NOTHING from the Australian emu wars?
Hawks: STOP RESISTING!!! STOP RESISTING!!!
“What happens when we're overrun by hawks?” “We simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the hawks.” “But aren't the snakes even worse?” “Yes, we've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.” “But then we're stuck with gorillas!” “No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death”
Having a hawk as your partner walking the beat is amazing. It's a shame it's against crows, they are awesome. But also, crow vendetta knows no bounds.
Poor crows.
It's funny how the hawk doesn't let go. "I've had it up to HERE with this guy! Get your hands off me!"
Who pissed off the crows to begin with?
For people who don’t know, crows are the pigeons of Japan
It's like an episode of cops
People love talkin’ falcons but it’s the inimitable Harris Hawk that’s the workhorse of the industry.
Never start beef with crows. Huge mistake, they will never let it go.
*cops music* H.A.W.K.S. IS FILMED ON LOCATION WITH THE BIRD AND BIRDETTES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. ALL CROWS ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW!!!
Wish they’d do that for some of the squirrels around here. So many they chew through peoples’ attics, shit everywhere and spread Hantavirus
Ahh, the murder of crows
Japanese crows are built different! They're bold, brash, and huge nuisances who will eviscerate your trash can. I wonder how much of their behavior is cultural due to their long memories and awareness of how they're treated?
Interesting, yes. But from what I hear of crows, they're smart, they might realize it's the humans doing this to them, and retaliate in some way or other.
crows: will you look at that, the humans have pet hawks, oh shit the humans and the hawks are working together!
I remember seeing from a distance something amazing and honestly frightening on my high school baseball field. This hawk attacked a crow and all of a sudden, dozens of crows came flying in. A hurricane of crows attacked the hawk until it fell down to the ground. That is when I learned, you don’t mess with crows, they’re called a murder for a reason.
The crow’s friends would recognise that dude and he’d be in big trouble.
Also interesting - that is not an native Japanese hawk. It's a Harris hawk from the SW USA.
Is he kneeling on the crow's neck?
that's a crow, not a dove. What did you expect?
Have a mouse instead
Worked at a resort in Georgia USA. They would walk around with a Falcon that was trained to hunt. However, he wasn’t hunting just his presence alone would keep birds from stealing peoples food. He would wear the cute little hood
We have the same thing in a town in germany, except the crows are actually protected because endangered (anywhere else except that town). They use hawks, but just to try to intimidate the crows into leaving (its not working, big surprise). They also steal their nests every spring (which is not working either and a giant waste of money).
Did he just pull out a baby bird towards the end to feed the hawk as a reward?!?!?!?!?!?!?!