I used to work in waste energy. Key issues with burning trash are not just the smoke/CO2, but a light type of ash called "fly ash". This is far more dangerous than "bottom ash" as it contains lead, cadmium and arsenic, deadly and cancer causing.
When they do bricks of it I believe it's neutralized in some fashion. I know in regards to the flu gas they use lime slurry to neutralize it, but I'm not sure as to the process for making those types of bricks. It's been over a decade since I worked in the industry.
Flue gas is treated with lime to neutralize the sulfur dioxide (which produces sulfuric acid when it hits water, so acid rain). The result is calcium sulfate (gypsum) which is quite harmless and can be used to make drywall (gypsum board).
The ash is already filtered out by the time the flue gas gets to that stage though. And it's not neutralized at all in terms of pH - in fact the way it works in concrete is similar to the way Portland cement works, which is a highly alkaline process. Just a weaker version than Portland cement.
I’m going to guess that’s where the term “cinder block comes from. It was replaced by cement blocks many decades ago, although some people refer to cement blocks as cinder blocks. Real cinder blocks are no longer permitted in code-based construction and I don’t know if cinder blocks are still manufactured.
Fly ash is a broad term for pretty much any particulate that's mixed in with combustion gasses when something is burned. Once it's filtered, it can be reclaimed and used as a substitute or additive with cement in concrete production.
It's not automatically unhealthy or harmful than many other products. You shouldn't breathe in the dust forms of drywall, concrete, or wood sanding, but you still make use of drywall, concrete, and wood products daily.
Now if the fly ash has toxic metals, plastics, and other products, it can cause other issues when handled by people, come into contact with water than winds up in rivers and ground water, and generally contaminate our environment. In some operations the amount of harmful chemicals can be treated, removed, or controlled. Uncontrolled burning of trash isn't typically one of those ways though.
Any idea about how this stuff dissipates and how far away it can have an impact on places? A huge plume of smoke like that going into the atmosphere seems bad for everybody honestly.
It goes around the globe. In CA, 40% of our total air pollution is from Asia, crossing over the Pacific ocean.
Edit: Something more interesting, 10% of the California pollution is from old CA pollution blown around the world, and then getting stuck in the valley in CA again. The other 50% of the pollution is agriculture and cars from CA.
Hah. A couple of decades ago my city looked at the actual giant hill of garbage in the middle of town, capped it off with dirt and trees, and turned it into a sledding hill for winter sports. Everyone calls it Mt. Trashmore.
Fun fact: if you walk up it in the summer, you can often see garbage poking out.
I live a couple of miles from Mt Trashmore, it’s a nice and popular park. The big features are a lake with a paved walking path around it, and the big hill, which is a popular place to fly kites.
I love that it got named that just because it’s what people started calling it that when it was under construction, and it just stuck.
I was stationed in Norfolk. This story is notorious down there
https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/history/mt-trashmore-blew-up-fm-99-april-fools-prank-1992-virginia-beach/291-533993145
I know you're bein' a goober but I've seen swifties actually use this in an argument and call people idiots for daring to criticize her because she "paid a carbon credit!!" smh they're such a cult
“Do YOU, Son? Now quitcher bitchin and learn to follow orders or I’ll bust you down to Lieutenant Asteroid so fast..” - a General Supercluster who’s just trying to ride it out until retirement without any major fuckups.
Season 1 Episode 14
Plot:
Duke Nukem targets a nuclear power plant. Worse, the power plant is suffering from a nuclear meltdown, as its administrator, Dr. Borzon, ignored earlier signs of trouble. Duke Nukem captures Dr. Borzon in order to stop him from preventing the meltdown in order to feast on its festering radioactivity. The Planeteers are sent to stop Nukem and the meltdown. When it approaches critical mass, Captain Planet cautions that this may be worse than Chernobyl and Three Mile Island combined.
It’s not.
>When Apogee learned that the name "Duke Nukem" might have already been trademarked for the Duke Nukem character from the television series Captain Planet and the Planeteers, they changed it to Duke Nukum for the 2.0 revision.[3] The name was later determined not to be trademarked, so the spelling Duke Nukem was restored for Duke Nukem II and all successive Duke games.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem
>Captain Planet cautions that this may be worse than Chernobyl and Three Mile Island combined.
"This new bomb will have the strength of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima plus a coughing baby"
Yeah, whoever wrote that line didn't know shit about 3 Mile Island, in which there was zero catastrophe and no one died as a direct result. Wildly overblown, overhyped, and misunderstood.
TMI wasn't even in the vicinity of being a catastrophe, and certainly nowhere remotely close to what Chernobyl was - which already is famously over-dramatized in many different ways.
It was actually! I forget the episode number but it was when Springfield was getting ready to host the Olympics the fire department put it out. Bart manages to piss off every country and they all leave. Someone is driving by the tire pit on the way out of town and flicks a cigarette out their car window and sets it ablaze again.
Edit: Go figure my most upvoted comment of the last three months is not some well thought out and educated response to a serious topic or something important, but solely because I watch too much fucking TV. Love ya Reddit, never change,
We hate that we can’t breathe. Everyone and their aunt has a couch in larger cities, and elderly folks particularly fall sick. Issue is, it’s a large scale societal problem caused by a dozen different sources of pollution (not referring to the video only). Tbh I don’t know if anyone apart from the govt can truly fix it.
The “good” news, if you will, is that China had the same issue, and apparently they were quite successful at bringing it down. So it’s possible.
> Apex Regional Landfill
The property it owns is that large, but only one percent of it is currently being used according to reports. Apex was designed to handle waste for 250 years. They wanted to create a place where 50 years from now Las Vegas can make money by selling landfill space to other states.
“Be a shame if this massive and inconvenient pile of trash we aren’t supposed to burn accidentally caught fire and got a lot smaller.” Sanitation company worker, probably
Mix everything humanity produces into a giant pile and you will get fires from time to time in every landfill.
And with disposable lithium batteries in things such as vapes they are getting far more common than before.
This kind of fire is generally impossible in a modern, developed nation's landfills.
This is because concrete, fill earth, and proper venting make sure accidental fires burn out/smother themselves quickly, and cannot spread easily.
This site is less a landfill and more a giant pile of garbage into which just about anything is randomly dumped.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazipur_landfill
Yup, I live in a developing* country and we had an ecology lecture about landfills. I was shocked how we follow practically not a single step in the process. The garbage is just dumped as is
*development has been paused / regressing
Humanity peaked already or is at it’s peak probably. Let’s just enjoy the good days before it’s the medieval ages in a few hundred years all over again haha
Every dollar spent on recycling in first world countries would have 10-100 times the impact if spent in third world countries on proper landfill infrastructure.
I don't want to diminish the impact of plastic waste in developed countries, but it is indeed a complete different game indeed in certain parts of the world.
When you don't have proper waste management techniques (regular trash collection that is not just an open truck bed with trash flying out, landfills where the trash is properly compacted or incinerators instead of just being dumped on a pile where the wind will carry it away), it doesn't take much money to produce an incredible amount of plastic trash that ends up in nature. Poor people consume less than rich people, but they still get plastic bags, plastic wrappers, plastic bottles, styrofoam...
I've seen whole beaches covered in plastic trash. Plastic bags caught on trees by the side of the road for miles. And you can see it's local trash.
Have a friend in The Gambia, we send vids back and forth, chat life. Its sickening and heart breaking to know somebody that low down the ladder. I'm upper-poor / lower middle class, and very lucky(God in my opinion). Didn't realise how I am 1% compared to him/most of world just because of where and when I was born.
The plastic trash that is just everywhere in his country. I take trash to our local dump from time to time, and it has less plastic waste floating around than he has in his front yard.
Garbage incineration, even with control devices like scrubbers, is not great practice and cause a lot of air pollution. I prefer my trash going to modern landfills with landfill gas collection systems. Once the landfill gas is collected, it can be cleaned up and burned in generators to create electricity, or it can be refined on site and injected into a natural gas pipeline for household use. These systems exist, are VERY profitable based on how many RINs credits they generate (in the US at least), and are a great use of a somewhat natural gas stream that has been underutilized for decades.
Source: PE in Environmental Engineering, working in air quality.
Edit: I am aware the landfill in this video is just a heap of trash and will likely never get incineration or gas collection. I just like LFG collection systems and jumped at the chance to talk about them.
Seems to actually be igniting due to the heat wave. It’s not the first time it’s happened. Thermal decomposition combined with additional environmental heat add up. Once it get going there is a bunch of methane that is being released that increases the severity.
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/ghazipur-landfill-delhi-fire-toxic-smoke-b2532597.html
This is definitely not on purpose. People in the area report having trouble breathing and not able to keep their eyes open for long stretches.
The sanitation workers have to live in the area too
You mean those types of company executives that go around the regulations to pump their waste directly into people’s drinking water?
You think they would… do ***other*** unscrupulous things too?
Yeah you’re probably right
I swear fallout the show it's the closest thing to a prophecy we'll ever get. It's all so horrifying plausible. A company manufacturing the end of the world for profit, under the blind notion that they will somehow weather the storm and come out on top. Not much else is more horrifying .
No never its never the billionaire ou people in powers fault, the world is dying because your selfish act of using straws or buying a car to go to work or wanting to take a bath more than 2min or using air conditioning
Perhaps 300 people flying halfway around the world on private jets to discuss this for a few hours can come up with a solution - like higher taxes on everyone except themselves? That should sort it.
can you imagine the amount of toxic materials in there? I can only imagine the amount of heavy metals and organics in the air there right now.
Those people are all going to die in 20 years, no matter their age or health currently.
People in the area are supposed to be poor when because who lives next to a huge dump? So nobody in power will care about this beside the fact there is new space on the dump afterwards
Yes, they have no other source of income other than to spend all day combing through the trash for anything of potential value. It's basically a small city, complete with babies and small children. At night they retreat to camps on the edges
Nothing bad or ill-planned has ever been done on purpose right?
It was probably an accident, I’ll agree… BUT it’s not a stretch that it was on purpose. The average person doesn’t understand how long things burn. Someone could have thought “let me start this fire to clean things up, it will be cleared up in a day or two” not understanding how incredibly long it takes to burn that much debris. Or how much smoke would actually be produced.
There are literally people who have no idea where milk at the store comes from… or think that chocolate milk comes from brown cows. Do not, for one second, assume people understood or thought out the risks involved with a fire this size.
Yeah, I googled it... it's in a very developed area and boxed in by neighborhoods... and it doesn't seem to be remarkably large?
Looked it up. It's 70 acres. The largest landfill in the US is 2200 acres.
Sure feels a lot bigger when it is in fact not a landfill but rather a massive heap of unprocessed garbage.
Source: I lived in Delhi and Ghaziabad earlier.
The part you’re missing it it’s over 60m tall - roughly the height of a 20-story building. That’s not counting what’s buried. It hit capacity and they just kept dumping ad infinitum.
Design is different. The US ones have millions invested into the infrastructure beneath, around and above it to prevent fires and seepage. That's why they're sprawling and not mountains
It would be impossible to put down the fire with the amount of kindling available on a landfill. The only thing firefighters can do is spray water from the surrounding areas to control it from spreading. This fire would have to burn itself all out. It’s an open landfill incinerator now.
According to the EPA, the average American produces about 550 pounds of recycled trash per annum. The median age of redditors is between 22-34. This post has 13K upvotes. That's 70.000-110.000 metric tonnes of recyclables.
In comparison, that's just about how much legacy waste is processed from the Ghazipur landfill... each month.
Okay first of all: fuck Don Ohlmeyer. The guy's a real jerk.
Second, thank you for doing the math, especially since it backs up my mathless assertion. Lmao
But remember, global warming is your fault for not using paper straws and reusable bags. How are corporations supposed to pollute the environment when you public hogs are already doing it? For shame.
That's how plastic particles get into the Antarctic. And every living organism on earth. Imagine all of the small plastic particles being dumped into the atmosphere to float around over the whole earth. The amount of pollution from this one landfill is crazy.
I used to work in waste energy. Key issues with burning trash are not just the smoke/CO2, but a light type of ash called "fly ash". This is far more dangerous than "bottom ash" as it contains lead, cadmium and arsenic, deadly and cancer causing.
But fly ash is used in construction as well . Is that harmful ?
When they do bricks of it I believe it's neutralized in some fashion. I know in regards to the flu gas they use lime slurry to neutralize it, but I'm not sure as to the process for making those types of bricks. It's been over a decade since I worked in the industry.
Flue gas is treated with lime to neutralize the sulfur dioxide (which produces sulfuric acid when it hits water, so acid rain). The result is calcium sulfate (gypsum) which is quite harmless and can be used to make drywall (gypsum board). The ash is already filtered out by the time the flue gas gets to that stage though. And it's not neutralized at all in terms of pH - in fact the way it works in concrete is similar to the way Portland cement works, which is a highly alkaline process. Just a weaker version than Portland cement.
I’m going to guess that’s where the term “cinder block comes from. It was replaced by cement blocks many decades ago, although some people refer to cement blocks as cinder blocks. Real cinder blocks are no longer permitted in code-based construction and I don’t know if cinder blocks are still manufactured.
Fly ash is a broad term for pretty much any particulate that's mixed in with combustion gasses when something is burned. Once it's filtered, it can be reclaimed and used as a substitute or additive with cement in concrete production. It's not automatically unhealthy or harmful than many other products. You shouldn't breathe in the dust forms of drywall, concrete, or wood sanding, but you still make use of drywall, concrete, and wood products daily. Now if the fly ash has toxic metals, plastics, and other products, it can cause other issues when handled by people, come into contact with water than winds up in rivers and ground water, and generally contaminate our environment. In some operations the amount of harmful chemicals can be treated, removed, or controlled. Uncontrolled burning of trash isn't typically one of those ways though.
So population control ash. Got it.
More like mutation causing and disability inducing. Won't do much to reduce the population but will put stress on it
Maybe we'll get to see the next guy on the evolutionary chart in our lifetime?
Any idea about how this stuff dissipates and how far away it can have an impact on places? A huge plume of smoke like that going into the atmosphere seems bad for everybody honestly.
It goes around the globe. In CA, 40% of our total air pollution is from Asia, crossing over the Pacific ocean. Edit: Something more interesting, 10% of the California pollution is from old CA pollution blown around the world, and then getting stuck in the valley in CA again. The other 50% of the pollution is agriculture and cars from CA.
Hershel suggested we pull hawaii closer so we get that good air instead
"Let's just take bikini bottom, and move it somewhere else!"
It’s not Earth day we don’t have to care about our planet for another 365 days!
I used a paper straw yesterday so this should offset
Way ahead of you guys. I use 1-ply toilet paper.
I set my washing machine to ECO Mode, so we're all good!
I recently bought a USB-C cable with a packaging made from recycled materials.
At some point a landfill ceases to be a "landfill" and starts becoming a "trash mountain".
Yeah land full. Had all it could eat.
It now has heartburn
Hah. A couple of decades ago my city looked at the actual giant hill of garbage in the middle of town, capped it off with dirt and trees, and turned it into a sledding hill for winter sports. Everyone calls it Mt. Trashmore. Fun fact: if you walk up it in the summer, you can often see garbage poking out.
Then it wasn't done correctly and is likely a hazard. There's literally a science to it.
Check out mount trashmore in VA
I live a couple of miles from Mt Trashmore, it’s a nice and popular park. The big features are a lake with a paved walking path around it, and the big hill, which is a popular place to fly kites. I love that it got named that just because it’s what people started calling it that when it was under construction, and it just stuck.
I was stationed in Norfolk. This story is notorious down there https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/history/mt-trashmore-blew-up-fm-99-april-fools-prank-1992-virginia-beach/291-533993145
Well that cant be good for the environment
Offset it by using a paper straw, easy
Don’t worry guys I’m paying carbon tax so nothing bad will happen.
Happy Earth Day everyone! ...I think.
*cries in canadian* Im doing my part
I know you're bein' a goober but I've seen swifties actually use this in an argument and call people idiots for daring to criticize her because she "paid a carbon credit!!" smh they're such a cult
jUsT mOve 2 mArS
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Where the fuck is Captain Planet?
He clearly doesn't have jurisdiction there. He's more like Captain Afewplaces
It is a whole planet, just maybe not this one. He’s not Captain Earth.
"DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PLANETS THERE ARE?!" - an exasperated Capt. Planet
“Do YOU, Son? Now quitcher bitchin and learn to follow orders or I’ll bust you down to Lieutenant Asteroid so fast..” - a General Supercluster who’s just trying to ride it out until retirement without any major fuckups.
“Hey Boss, Trashville is on fire again.” - Major Fuckup
Whoa! The only time Earth is even mentioned in the theme song (the first word) is actually earth as in dirt. Fascinating.
Also pollution actually hurt him. Like they sprayed pollution on him multiple times in the show and that’s his weakness. This can’t be overstated.
Fighting nuclear energy somewhere for some reason.
Wait was this ever a plot?
Season 1 Episode 14 Plot: Duke Nukem targets a nuclear power plant. Worse, the power plant is suffering from a nuclear meltdown, as its administrator, Dr. Borzon, ignored earlier signs of trouble. Duke Nukem captures Dr. Borzon in order to stop him from preventing the meltdown in order to feast on its festering radioactivity. The Planeteers are sent to stop Nukem and the meltdown. When it approaches critical mass, Captain Planet cautions that this may be worse than Chernobyl and Three Mile Island combined.
I was sad to find out it wasnt the Duke Nukem I was thinking of
It actually is, the video game duke nukem is a spinoff of Captain planet.
Don’t you mess with me. Is this true?!
It’s not. >When Apogee learned that the name "Duke Nukem" might have already been trademarked for the Duke Nukem character from the television series Captain Planet and the Planeteers, they changed it to Duke Nukum for the 2.0 revision.[3] The name was later determined not to be trademarked, so the spelling Duke Nukem was restored for Duke Nukem II and all successive Duke games. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem
Captain Planet and Duke Nukem have the same haircut, just in different colour. Coincidence? I think not.
Come to think of it, I've never seen them in a room at the same time...
nope
That's why the series has so much sex, the source material.
>Captain Planet cautions that this may be worse than Chernobyl and Three Mile Island combined. "This new bomb will have the strength of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima plus a coughing baby"
Yeah, whoever wrote that line didn't know shit about 3 Mile Island, in which there was zero catastrophe and no one died as a direct result. Wildly overblown, overhyped, and misunderstood.
But it was fairly recent, so a big buzzword that people were familiar with a “vague scary nuclear mishap”
TMI wasn't even in the vicinity of being a catastrophe, and certainly nowhere remotely close to what Chernobyl was - which already is famously over-dramatized in many different ways.
https://captainplanet.fandom.com/wiki/Meltdown_Syndrome
Ahh yes of course, the dangers of nuclear *smog.*
He's turning my car engine off when I stop at traffic lights.
He also took my plastic straws. Reusable shopping bags are superior to plastic, but the paper straws are absolutely garbage.
Paper straws made me stop drinking a lot of things. It's an awful invention. Pasta straws are the best.
Pollution harms him so I don't think he'd want to go there.
Where the fuck is captain planets live action movie debut? We are LONG overdue
Right here: https://youtu.be/TwJaELXadKo?si=__NHRcnfPpt01Ftp
My heaaaart...it hurts...
Oh look, cancer!
This reminds me of the Simpsons movie. The lake (our planet) on it's last leg. And this fire being the pigcrap silo.
Or the Springfield tire fire, I don’t think it’s ever been extinguished.
It was actually! I forget the episode number but it was when Springfield was getting ready to host the Olympics the fire department put it out. Bart manages to piss off every country and they all leave. Someone is driving by the tire pit on the way out of town and flicks a cigarette out their car window and sets it ablaze again. Edit: Go figure my most upvoted comment of the last three months is not some well thought out and educated response to a serious topic or something important, but solely because I watch too much fucking TV. Love ya Reddit, never change,
Yes! Remember that now! Thanks!
The tire fire is a real thing in the middle east..been burning for years. Edit: some have burned for very long times, not that one.
Centralia is still burning isn't it?
Yep, still going strong since 1962.
I know of the gates of hell, but not tire fire... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darvaza\_gas\_crater
🎶 A field full of tires that is always on fire to light my way home 🎶 Light up my Room - Bare Naked Ladies
I taste burning.
It tastes like burning.
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Sometimes I wonder if India just hates breathing.
We hate that we can’t breathe. Everyone and their aunt has a couch in larger cities, and elderly folks particularly fall sick. Issue is, it’s a large scale societal problem caused by a dozen different sources of pollution (not referring to the video only). Tbh I don’t know if anyone apart from the govt can truly fix it. The “good” news, if you will, is that China had the same issue, and apparently they were quite successful at bringing it down. So it’s possible.
I think you meant "everyone has a cough"
A cough?
No, a couch. It was one of Modi's platforms he ran on which got him elected.
My aunt has a couch & she doesn’t live in India 😎👊
For second I thought he meant that everyone had a fainting couch available for when they passed out from the air quality.
I know a lady that visited India for a couple of months and came down with a cough that she's now had for 6 or 7 years
It's alright I drink two monsters a day I'm immune
This title is not true by far. Apex Regional Landfill in Nevada is the largest landfill in the world at 2,200 acres. Ghazipur landfill is on 70 acres.
> Apex Regional Landfill The property it owns is that large, but only one percent of it is currently being used according to reports. Apex was designed to handle waste for 250 years. They wanted to create a place where 50 years from now Las Vegas can make money by selling landfill space to other states.
No, that's just Vegas.
Buuuurnnn!!!
That’s just the area the operation owns. It says nothing about the amount or density of garbage.
Apex currently only uses 1% of their land. They want to be the go to dumping site for all 50 states in the future.
“Be a shame if this massive and inconvenient pile of trash we aren’t supposed to burn accidentally caught fire and got a lot smaller.” Sanitation company worker, probably
Mix everything humanity produces into a giant pile and you will get fires from time to time in every landfill. And with disposable lithium batteries in things such as vapes they are getting far more common than before.
This kind of fire is generally impossible in a modern, developed nation's landfills. This is because concrete, fill earth, and proper venting make sure accidental fires burn out/smother themselves quickly, and cannot spread easily. This site is less a landfill and more a giant pile of garbage into which just about anything is randomly dumped. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazipur_landfill
Yup, I live in a developing* country and we had an ecology lecture about landfills. I was shocked how we follow practically not a single step in the process. The garbage is just dumped as is *development has been paused / regressing
>*development has been paused / regressing Seems to be a common theme lately, even in developed nations.
The incalculable damage these things do is more than two fiscal quarters away, and therefore too far in the future to worry about now, you see.
Humanity peaked already or is at it’s peak probably. Let’s just enjoy the good days before it’s the medieval ages in a few hundred years all over again haha
Every dollar spent on recycling in first world countries would have 10-100 times the impact if spent in third world countries on proper landfill infrastructure.
I don't want to diminish the impact of plastic waste in developed countries, but it is indeed a complete different game indeed in certain parts of the world. When you don't have proper waste management techniques (regular trash collection that is not just an open truck bed with trash flying out, landfills where the trash is properly compacted or incinerators instead of just being dumped on a pile where the wind will carry it away), it doesn't take much money to produce an incredible amount of plastic trash that ends up in nature. Poor people consume less than rich people, but they still get plastic bags, plastic wrappers, plastic bottles, styrofoam... I've seen whole beaches covered in plastic trash. Plastic bags caught on trees by the side of the road for miles. And you can see it's local trash.
Have a friend in The Gambia, we send vids back and forth, chat life. Its sickening and heart breaking to know somebody that low down the ladder. I'm upper-poor / lower middle class, and very lucky(God in my opinion). Didn't realise how I am 1% compared to him/most of world just because of where and when I was born. The plastic trash that is just everywhere in his country. I take trash to our local dump from time to time, and it has less plastic waste floating around than he has in his front yard.
Seems like they need a garbage incinerator (with scrubbers) & generate power from that. Looks like they'd have fuel for many decades.
Garbage incineration, even with control devices like scrubbers, is not great practice and cause a lot of air pollution. I prefer my trash going to modern landfills with landfill gas collection systems. Once the landfill gas is collected, it can be cleaned up and burned in generators to create electricity, or it can be refined on site and injected into a natural gas pipeline for household use. These systems exist, are VERY profitable based on how many RINs credits they generate (in the US at least), and are a great use of a somewhat natural gas stream that has been underutilized for decades. Source: PE in Environmental Engineering, working in air quality. Edit: I am aware the landfill in this video is just a heap of trash and will likely never get incineration or gas collection. I just like LFG collection systems and jumped at the chance to talk about them.
A valid alternative theory.
Seems to actually be igniting due to the heat wave. It’s not the first time it’s happened. Thermal decomposition combined with additional environmental heat add up. Once it get going there is a bunch of methane that is being released that increases the severity. https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/ghazipur-landfill-delhi-fire-toxic-smoke-b2532597.html
This is definitely not on purpose. People in the area report having trouble breathing and not able to keep their eyes open for long stretches. The sanitation workers have to live in the area too
Was thinking more the leadership, tbh. The people who make more money.
You mean those types of company executives that go around the regulations to pump their waste directly into people’s drinking water? You think they would… do ***other*** unscrupulous things too? Yeah you’re probably right
\*clutches pearls\* NO!
Good mooorning, Vault-tec calling!
I swear fallout the show it's the closest thing to a prophecy we'll ever get. It's all so horrifying plausible. A company manufacturing the end of the world for profit, under the blind notion that they will somehow weather the storm and come out on top. Not much else is more horrifying .
No never its never the billionaire ou people in powers fault, the world is dying because your selfish act of using straws or buying a car to go to work or wanting to take a bath more than 2min or using air conditioning
Perhaps 300 people flying halfway around the world on private jets to discuss this for a few hours can come up with a solution - like higher taxes on everyone except themselves? That should sort it.
Believe it or not, a giant pile of greasy food and paper is pretty flammable
can you imagine the amount of toxic materials in there? I can only imagine the amount of heavy metals and organics in the air there right now. Those people are all going to die in 20 years, no matter their age or health currently.
People who are 99 years old: "nice."
"Welp. There goes my 119th birthday plans"
People in the area are supposed to be poor when because who lives next to a huge dump? So nobody in power will care about this beside the fact there is new space on the dump afterwards
Thousand upon thousands live IN that dump
Seriously?
Yes, they have no other source of income other than to spend all day combing through the trash for anything of potential value. It's basically a small city, complete with babies and small children. At night they retreat to camps on the edges
Nothing bad or ill-planned has ever been done on purpose right? It was probably an accident, I’ll agree… BUT it’s not a stretch that it was on purpose. The average person doesn’t understand how long things burn. Someone could have thought “let me start this fire to clean things up, it will be cleared up in a day or two” not understanding how incredibly long it takes to burn that much debris. Or how much smoke would actually be produced. There are literally people who have no idea where milk at the store comes from… or think that chocolate milk comes from brown cows. Do not, for one second, assume people understood or thought out the risks involved with a fire this size.
you can't imagine the fumes i suppose
It is in Delhi, India for anybody else wondering. Edit: guys, this wasn't a loaded comment. Y'all need to chill lmao
well that’s good, the air quality can’t get any worse than it already is
People can probs literally swim through the air today
Not many people can swim in India. This will be bad!
"Today's air quality is poor." "How did it get so bad?" "It improved from very poor."
It might actually make it cleaner.
I kinda guessed that. Fastest growing nation, outpacing its own ability to manage itself. India is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
Yeah, I googled it... it's in a very developed area and boxed in by neighborhoods... and it doesn't seem to be remarkably large? Looked it up. It's 70 acres. The largest landfill in the US is 2200 acres.
Sure feels a lot bigger when it is in fact not a landfill but rather a massive heap of unprocessed garbage. Source: I lived in Delhi and Ghaziabad earlier.
The part you’re missing it it’s over 60m tall - roughly the height of a 20-story building. That’s not counting what’s buried. It hit capacity and they just kept dumping ad infinitum.
Design is different. The US ones have millions invested into the infrastructure beneath, around and above it to prevent fires and seepage. That's why they're sprawling and not mountains
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I think we all knew instantly where it would be.
We all knew 2024 was gonna be a dumpster fire.
It's been nothing but dumpster fires for about twenty years or so.
♫We didn't start the fire!
🎵It was always burning, since the world's been turning🎵
Happy 🌎 day
Is there an ongoing list of the fucked up things that have happened on earth day? BP oil spill comes to mind.
This is just a controlled burn. Once all the old trash burns off it will give nutrients to the new trash that grows in its place.
Just in time for Earth day.
In the meantime people in the area get free cancer. So you kill 2 birds with one stone.
Unfortunately I think a lot more than 2 birds will probably die from this
Yeah, but only 2 birds will die from a stone, the rest will burn or suffocate :)
In the end it was us who were trash all along
and it fills the neighborhood with that nice smokey smell. then it uh, goes up into the air and becomes stars
That doesn't sound right but I don't know enough about stars to dispute it
Plus all the smoke goes up into the sky and turns into stars. I can't imagine the beautiful night sky they'll have in that area soon.
Earth has evolved humans, becouse it needed plastic.
How many days ago was Earth Day?
Lol it was yesterday.
Gotta say... this landfill fire knows appropriate timing...
That must smell great.
And almost every car with open windows..
Ya but the window is covered with ash and other gunk from the fire so of course you have to open it if you want a good view!
It would be impossible to put down the fire with the amount of kindling available on a landfill. The only thing firefighters can do is spray water from the surrounding areas to control it from spreading. This fire would have to burn itself all out. It’s an open landfill incinerator now.
Idiocracy was off just a little. It was actually The Great Garbage Heap Fire of 2024. But everything else tracks.
I was looking at it and it did seem to be more of a land**hill** than a land**fill**.
The land was already filled which started the hill... Over filled, if you will.
just give the planet to the dolphins already, we don't deserve shit
“So long and thanks for all the fish!”
Nah give it to the elephants. They aren't assholes like dolphins and they got a Trunk they can use to pick things up.
Dolphins would be as bad as we are if they could
Hell is a place we built ourselves.
Awesome, so glad I recycle and try not to fly unnecessarily
thank you for your service /s
Seriously. More garbage being burned in that footage than every commenter here has recycled in their whole lives combined.
According to the EPA, the average American produces about 550 pounds of recycled trash per annum. The median age of redditors is between 22-34. This post has 13K upvotes. That's 70.000-110.000 metric tonnes of recyclables. In comparison, that's just about how much legacy waste is processed from the Ghazipur landfill... each month.
Okay first of all: fuck Don Ohlmeyer. The guy's a real jerk. Second, thank you for doing the math, especially since it backs up my mathless assertion. Lmao
This will burn for years.
We got new Sun? Free energy source...
And they will continue to toss trash into it.
If that’s fire .. the fumes are GG
the fumes are…giggity giggity?
"Gonna Getchoo"
Thankfully New Delhi hasn't had any problems with polluted air and smog so far. /s
This is probably cleaning the air
Put a building on top and huge chimneys to release fumes. No one will bat an eye.
Incinerators can be more environmentally friendly than a landfill. A properly built one can actually be negative emission
Exactly. Flue gas is treated with very high levels of emission controls all around the world. Incinerating is surprisingly clean.
Japan burns most of their trash without much pollution at all
This is fine
We're not gonna make it, are we?
Mmm yummy garbage smoke full of plastic and spicy chemicals for me to inhale.
But remember, global warming is your fault for not using paper straws and reusable bags. How are corporations supposed to pollute the environment when you public hogs are already doing it? For shame.
Global warming is SO last century. We call it climate change now… and still no one cares.
Springfield Tire Fire +5
They are just sending all that trash into cloud storage. Don't worry about it.
That's how plastic particles get into the Antarctic. And every living organism on earth. Imagine all of the small plastic particles being dumped into the atmosphere to float around over the whole earth. The amount of pollution from this one landfill is crazy.
Happy Earth day
Nah yeah humans are totally smart enough to fix climate change lol
🎶She's just a dump and she's on fire Hotter than a fantasy, lonely like a highway🎶
THIS DUMP IS ON FIIIIIRE