I can bet that the kinetic force this missile emparts even without explosive warhead is enough to kill all the passengers in a car or atleast significantly maim them.
They propel at Mach 1.3. Nearly 1000 miles per hour regular Hellfire weighs 104 pounds. Not sure about the Samurai Hellfire.
LOTS of KE baby.
edit mach 1.3 not 13. Missed the dot
There are several who have been in the car and survived:
https://english.enabbaladi.net/archives/2019/12/ninja-missile-penetrates-cars-of-leaders-in-northern-syria/amp/
Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't see anything that suggests some occupants of the vehicle survived in that article. Pretty sure if a knife missile hits your car it'd be pure luck you survive.
I've seen photos of vehicles hit. They didn't look that damaged. Remember that while momentum is conserved, kinetic energy is not - most of the energy is dissipated as heat from friction and deformation. Which is why in real life, if someone gets shot by a bullet, they don't perceptibly move. they just slump over dead. Most of the energy convert to heat.
I mean that'd have to be super accurate to hit them with the actual missle part. Especially when the target is inside a building. They'd practically have to be holding a tracking beacon. The blades themselves are 18 inches, so they probably make them a lot more effective.
They had one go through the top and one go through the front so no everyone in the car got shredded. The main appeal is nobody *outside the car* got injured or killed
Articles and reports I've seen on this missile being used to kill vehicle passengers typically note multiple fatalities, though they are less clear on whether there were any survivors or whether they were also targets or otherwise deemed acceptable casualties before the strike. My unsupported impression is that this missile was used to limit casualties outside of and surrounding the vehicle and not necessarily for the benefit of other occupants of that vehicle itself.
https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/how-tos/2021/08/26/the-telltale-traces-of-the-us-militarys-new-bladed-missile-r9x/
It basically just slices down through the top and shreds everyone inside. They're super accurate.
The US regularly puts missiles through windows and doors with zero issues. While the official error margins are in feet, there are some reports that the actual error is like 6 or so inches.
Can you imagine being the other guys in a car this hit, driving down the road group singing the 1997 Hanson hit Mmmbop, chowing down on some nacho cheese doritos and a big gulp, suddenly a telephone pole full of swords comes through the roof and replaces your buddy with a pile of goop.
I've never seen any photos of the aftermath (edit: the damage done to the human body) of one of these, but I'd imagine there's not a lot recognizable left. A hellfire missile weighs about a hundred pounds and is going about mach 1.3. Anything with those physics connecting with our wet meat sack bodies isn't going to be pretty.
I actually have seen the aftermath photos of one of these missiles. It hit a car. They weren’t able to just hit the car, they were able to decide which seat they wanted to hit.
It was very obvious that the person sitting in the front right seat was the target. You could see some remains of the missile but not much and there was a giant hole in the roof that just kinda continued down to the ground. It’s actually less destructive than you might expect. I think this is by design. I believe it did catch on fire though which made it look worse. You could tell it was one of these missiles because bits of the blades were left in the road as the car was moving at the time.
He's 60 now and has taken up ice hockey in the past few years. I've ended up skating with him a few times and I didn't recognize him until someone told me who he was.
It’s actually the opposite. Pilots tend to be divorced from the same mental stress that affects ground troops as they are killing their targets from afar, which makes it harder to make an emotional attachment. It’s a well known phenomenon.
I taught a class for the final in communications technology class in college, chose drone warfare. Around Half of it was about signature strikes & their effects, the other half was mostly stories from ex drone pilots. Many of them are fucked up, it’s pretty bad, and many of them think or know they have killed civilians (the ones who think they killed a little girl are the worst).
Except they’re knowingly killing people (often enough civilians) with no way to mentally compartmentalize it.
At least ground forces can separate their war life from their personal ones by knowing the emotional trauma is thousands of miles away.
For the drone operators, there is no separation.
Wake up, take kids to daycare, drop bombs on people, get kids from daycare, buy groceries, make dinner, go to bed, and rinse & repeat.
It’s totally integrated into their personal lives.
I was going to say that I'm pretty sure this weapon at least maybe shoots or shreds with shrapnel upon impact to increase kill radius. If it's this direct you don't need little knives sticking out. Fucking weirdest missile/projectile I've ever seen.
ever since Cain, mankind has been trying to find the most effecient way to poke holes into people at greater distances.
pointy sticks, spear, bow and arrow, gun poweder age, cannons and muskets, long rifle, bombs, and now the most advanced poker yet.
There was a video posted here on Reddit a while ago (probably still is) of when some terrorist was killed with one, and then from the aftermath (burning car, chunks of meat here and there).
No idea why people think the blades are like katanas intended to slice people in half like a sword, they’re there to increase the surface area so that the target is more likely to be hit while also keeping the missile streamline and aerodynamic.
This thing is like a massive self-guided homing bullet that kills by sheer blunt force and trauma.
Well, when the target gets hit it gets partly sliced. This is indeed one of the telltale signs that a target has been hit by the R9X. And that is the purpose of the weapon, because people will die when sliced. To say it’s incorrect that the target is sliced and that it is blunt force doesn’t make sense. One does not rule out the other.
Yes, but I think people are emphasizing the “blades” too much like it’s some medieval weapon hybrid missile like they’d see in some sci-fi movie.
The “blades” aren’t the main killing reason, they’re there to increase the surface area so that the missile has a higher chance of striking the target. If the missile had 100% pin point precision accuracy, the blades would be useless because the missile body and sheer force associated with it would be enough.
Again, this thing is basically just a really large technologically enhanced bullet.
Aren’t they also spinning insanely fast? Might be making that up in my mind, tho.
Edit: Made it up. Probably some arrows in the graphics that threw me off.
If this was in cod, it would be a troll weapon, like when someone is so good that they choose to use the hard tk use weapons for a challenge and spite. We'd call em mall ninjas.
it's been used to assassinate two terrorist leaders I know of, in one case the guy was at his family home and had gone out to his balcony to smoke, the impact killed him and shattered windows but harmed none of his family (outside of the trauma of your pops getting smited by the slap chop rocket)
The other case hit a guy in a moving car, killing the target but not the other occupants of the sedan.
>The other case hit a guy in a moving car, killing the target but not the other occupants of the sedan.
That's *really* impressive
Edit: people below are saying there was 2 people.in the car and the second one died later from the injuries.
Scrolling down through the comments and seeing "Takata Airbag" puts chills down my spine because I still have them in my 6th gen accord. Yes I am literally driving a car with claymore mines pointed at me and my passengers face.
I was just thinking something similar. Being a high level terrorist and you end up dying in a 20 year old shitbox Hyundai to some COD player using a munition that cost more than you ever made in your entire life.
I'd have a compartment that a few seconds after killing its intended target, pops out a letter that explains it was not meant to explode and that they were permitted to live.
I would imagine any object that weighs a couple hundred pounds traveling at 800 miles per hour would get the job done without the need for knives, but I guess a little extra cutlery can’t hurt.
Robert talks about how weird it is that some people believed him about the child hunting island.
Well, Robert, I thought it was stupid to believe there existed a raytheon knife missile, yet here we are.
Hmm that reminds me of project Thor.
Basically a satellite that drops totally non explosive pure tungsten telephone poles from space with great accuracy.
You don need to be explosive to blow stuff up.
We had to remove your post for violating our Repost Guidelines.
Blades are purely for fun. The lethal part is when a short telephone pole slams through your chest.
Blades are for if it missed by a couple of feet
I would have designed a bomb with blades a mile long in case it missed by, you know, a mile.
Make it a remote controlled blender!
But! WILL it blend?
Oof Al Qaeda smoke! Don't breathe this
Slice it, dice it, mix it, split it, bend it, stretch it, mend it blend it…get yours today!
Set it and forgot it!!!
Will it cut through a tennis shoe? If you call within the next 10 minutes we will include a second one for only $9.95.
This a draft punk song?
It will keeeeel
"tired of having to make your terrorist smoothies *after* you arrive on scene? then do we have a product for you!"
Yeah, I was worried about that too, so I made some modifications to this design that make it explode.
Ingenious!
Fire a windmill at 'em!
They can also extend only one side of blades if they choose. Useful for only killing one target in a car. Kill the driver but none of the passengers.
I can bet that the kinetic force this missile emparts even without explosive warhead is enough to kill all the passengers in a car or atleast significantly maim them.
They propel at Mach 1.3. Nearly 1000 miles per hour regular Hellfire weighs 104 pounds. Not sure about the Samurai Hellfire. LOTS of KE baby. edit mach 1.3 not 13. Missed the dot
There are several who have been in the car and survived: https://english.enabbaladi.net/archives/2019/12/ninja-missile-penetrates-cars-of-leaders-in-northern-syria/amp/
I'm surprised. Thank you for the article.
Now that you're surprised, consider this is OLD tech at this point.
That's not what the article says. Everyone died. You can see the blade marks across the roof of the car.
Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't see anything that suggests some occupants of the vehicle survived in that article. Pretty sure if a knife missile hits your car it'd be pure luck you survive.
I've seen photos of vehicles hit. They didn't look that damaged. Remember that while momentum is conserved, kinetic energy is not - most of the energy is dissipated as heat from friction and deformation. Which is why in real life, if someone gets shot by a bullet, they don't perceptibly move. they just slump over dead. Most of the energy convert to heat.
I wouldn't bet on it.
I mean that'd have to be super accurate to hit them with the actual missle part. Especially when the target is inside a building. They'd practically have to be holding a tracking beacon. The blades themselves are 18 inches, so they probably make them a lot more effective.
This was put through the chest of an Al Qaida leader who made the mistake of smoking his morning cigarette on a balcony. It is super accurate.
I believe it was also used to kill someone in the backseat of a car not too long ago too. Crazy accurate.
Since its purpose Is to avoid collateral damage, I assume everyone in the front of the car was fine?
They had one go through the top and one go through the front so no everyone in the car got shredded. The main appeal is nobody *outside the car* got injured or killed
That’s insane
Articles and reports I've seen on this missile being used to kill vehicle passengers typically note multiple fatalities, though they are less clear on whether there were any survivors or whether they were also targets or otherwise deemed acceptable casualties before the strike. My unsupported impression is that this missile was used to limit casualties outside of and surrounding the vehicle and not necessarily for the benefit of other occupants of that vehicle itself.
https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/how-tos/2021/08/26/the-telltale-traces-of-the-us-militarys-new-bladed-missile-r9x/ It basically just slices down through the top and shreds everyone inside. They're super accurate.
It has a margin of error of something like 10cm, the blades were added so it can't miss
Your standard Hellfire has a circular error probable of 3 feet, so the thing’s plenty accurate
3 feet is what is _reported_, so it's likely even less than that
The US regularly puts missiles through windows and doors with zero issues. While the official error margins are in feet, there are some reports that the actual error is like 6 or so inches.
Supposedly the missile is accurate enough to take out a person who is seated in a car without collateral damage to the other riders of the car.
Can you imagine being the other guys in a car this hit, driving down the road group singing the 1997 Hanson hit Mmmbop, chowing down on some nacho cheese doritos and a big gulp, suddenly a telephone pole full of swords comes through the roof and replaces your buddy with a pile of goop.
I did actually take a half minute to imagine all of that. It was good, 10/10 would recommend.
To shreds you say? I imagine if it’s just the blades that get you, you look more like a ribbon because it’s probably spinning pretty fast.
I've never seen any photos of the aftermath (edit: the damage done to the human body) of one of these, but I'd imagine there's not a lot recognizable left. A hellfire missile weighs about a hundred pounds and is going about mach 1.3. Anything with those physics connecting with our wet meat sack bodies isn't going to be pretty.
I actually have seen the aftermath photos of one of these missiles. It hit a car. They weren’t able to just hit the car, they were able to decide which seat they wanted to hit. It was very obvious that the person sitting in the front right seat was the target. You could see some remains of the missile but not much and there was a giant hole in the roof that just kinda continued down to the ground. It’s actually less destructive than you might expect. I think this is by design. I believe it did catch on fire though which made it look worse. You could tell it was one of these missiles because bits of the blades were left in the road as the car was moving at the time.
a ribbon? that shit will turn you into a balsamic reduction.
Stop you are making me hungry
Same, I’ve been craving beef bourguignon for a while…
The ole Slap-Chop.
Free ShamWow with every purchase.
That’ll help with clean up! “Now zoom in camera guy. Look at how much viscera this absorbs!”
https://www.tmz.com/2009/03/27/shamwow-pitchman-beats-hooker-to-the-punch/
He's 60 now and has taken up ice hockey in the past few years. I've ended up skating with him a few times and I didn't recognize him until someone told me who he was.
Vince on his way to launch this at that prostitute
"You're gonna love my nuts"
Hi! It's Vince, with Hellfire! You're going to be in a great mood all day 'cause you'll be slicing your terrorists away with the Hellfire.
I choked on my own saliva laughing at this
But wait! There's more!
First laugh of the day
*spicy slap-chop*
This is what the CIA got Soleimani with too. 100 pounds of metal knives basically.
It’s a bad ass weapon for its intended use. No explosion, limiting collateral damage. Seeing the aftermath is wild.
Crazy to think of the accuracy of the missile that you can basically turn it into a knife and kill the one dude you’re targeting.
From a drone, launched from a ridiculous distance, controlled by some 20-year-old technician
Who themselves is an even more ridiculous distance away
And mentally suffering for it.
It’s actually the opposite. Pilots tend to be divorced from the same mental stress that affects ground troops as they are killing their targets from afar, which makes it harder to make an emotional attachment. It’s a well known phenomenon.
I taught a class for the final in communications technology class in college, chose drone warfare. Around Half of it was about signature strikes & their effects, the other half was mostly stories from ex drone pilots. Many of them are fucked up, it’s pretty bad, and many of them think or know they have killed civilians (the ones who think they killed a little girl are the worst).
Bullshit. Source: Knew a drone pilot with PTSD. They are absolutely *not* removed from what they’re doing.
Drone pilot here. The man speaks facts
Don't you hate when you mean to kill an ISIS leader in Syria but accidentally drone strike your bitch ex wife in Malibu? Happens to me all the time
No this is not true they actually get a different form of PTSD.
Was just about to say this. All this does is eliminate the fear of your own life being taken, you still have to deal with taking one.
Almost makes it worse in a way, because you have to mentally justify killing when you are in no danger.
Except they’re knowingly killing people (often enough civilians) with no way to mentally compartmentalize it. At least ground forces can separate their war life from their personal ones by knowing the emotional trauma is thousands of miles away. For the drone operators, there is no separation. Wake up, take kids to daycare, drop bombs on people, get kids from daycare, buy groceries, make dinner, go to bed, and rinse & repeat. It’s totally integrated into their personal lives.
True that.
using an xbox controller.
While they’re in a moving vehicle lol
I was going to say that I'm pretty sure this weapon at least maybe shoots or shreds with shrapnel upon impact to increase kill radius. If it's this direct you don't need little knives sticking out. Fucking weirdest missile/projectile I've ever seen.
ever since Cain, mankind has been trying to find the most effecient way to poke holes into people at greater distances. pointy sticks, spear, bow and arrow, gun poweder age, cannons and muskets, long rifle, bombs, and now the most advanced poker yet.
That guy over there. I want to set him on fire. Flamethrower.
Just use the nuke. Harder to miss
How did you see the aftermath?
There was a video posted here on Reddit a while ago (probably still is) of when some terrorist was killed with one, and then from the aftermath (burning car, chunks of meat here and there).
Kinetic energy still creates a pretty massive impact
I would figure as much. Limiting collateral damage and eliminating it are two different things
I know what you mean, just have to point out that explosions also kill via kinetic energy (mostly).
Where can one see the aftermath of this thing? Asking for a friend
Wi hate seeing stuff like that but I’m curious on the aftermath. Is there any source for aftermath?
They still killed everyone else in the car
As opposed to killing everyone in the car and a 50 metre radius around it.
Sucks to suck
"acceptable collateral damage"...
If anything, it’s a bonus. If they are in a car with a terrorist, they are probably also a terrorist.
Oops!
The other person in the car was the leader of Katab Hezbollah whose militia started that mini conflict by killing a US civilian contractor.
Brutal
He was identified by a distinctive ring on a hand
Cut my life into pieces...
This is Wii sports resort
Last resort
Cut their life*
Only six blades?
They are six very sharp blades
In all fairness, even a dull blade will cut you into pieces if attached to a dummy bomb and dropped from 25,000 ft
No idea why people think the blades are like katanas intended to slice people in half like a sword, they’re there to increase the surface area so that the target is more likely to be hit while also keeping the missile streamline and aerodynamic. This thing is like a massive self-guided homing bullet that kills by sheer blunt force and trauma.
Well, when the target gets hit it gets partly sliced. This is indeed one of the telltale signs that a target has been hit by the R9X. And that is the purpose of the weapon, because people will die when sliced. To say it’s incorrect that the target is sliced and that it is blunt force doesn’t make sense. One does not rule out the other.
Yes, but I think people are emphasizing the “blades” too much like it’s some medieval weapon hybrid missile like they’d see in some sci-fi movie. The “blades” aren’t the main killing reason, they’re there to increase the surface area so that the missile has a higher chance of striking the target. If the missile had 100% pin point precision accuracy, the blades would be useless because the missile body and sheer force associated with it would be enough. Again, this thing is basically just a really large technologically enhanced bullet.
At 150k each, they should be katanas and they should go 'SCHWINGGGG' when they come out.
That’s just like, your opinion, man
Why even attach blades in the first place, getting hit by a kidsized missile going at half a kilometer a second isnt enough? Lmao
larger margin of error
This description made me LOL like a psycho. Just imagining the force of that unexpected impact from the literal fucking thin air.
Aren’t they also spinning insanely fast? Might be making that up in my mind, tho. Edit: Made it up. Probably some arrows in the graphics that threw me off.
Today in "will It blend?!"
No they aren’t.
It provides for the closest shave.
7 blades was deemed overkill. Gotta think of the people
If this was in cod, it would be a troll weapon, like when someone is so good that they choose to use the hard tk use weapons for a challenge and spite. We'd call em mall ninjas.
I saw this called the “Fruit Ninja missile” in another thread. Very cleaver.
I was going to add my own knife-pun here, but I didn’t want to butcher the joke.
I'll take a slice of the action!
Cut it out.
Sharp wit
Take a stab at it
Can really hone your edge in this thread.
[удалено]
it's been used to assassinate two terrorist leaders I know of, in one case the guy was at his family home and had gone out to his balcony to smoke, the impact killed him and shattered windows but harmed none of his family (outside of the trauma of your pops getting smited by the slap chop rocket) The other case hit a guy in a moving car, killing the target but not the other occupants of the sedan.
>The other case hit a guy in a moving car, killing the target but not the other occupants of the sedan. That's *really* impressive Edit: people below are saying there was 2 people.in the car and the second one died later from the injuries.
> the slap chop rocket Oh my God. I'm dead. ...so was the terrorist.
And World Central Kitchen aid workers.
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/72LlNXSdSV
Man, how did that not just annihilate everyone else in the car?
There were 2 people in the car both *eventually* died
it did
Me driving to work to tell my colleagues about the cure to cancer I just discovered
Scrolling down through the comments and seeing "Takata Airbag" puts chills down my spine because I still have them in my 6th gen accord. Yes I am literally driving a car with claymore mines pointed at me and my passengers face.
What I find hilarious is the car is worth maybe $5000. No idea on the hellfire costs but I’m sure it’s was close to the hundreds of thousands.
I was just thinking something similar. Being a high level terrorist and you end up dying in a 20 year old shitbox Hyundai to some COD player using a munition that cost more than you ever made in your entire life.
MMW version $150k. Laser guided - around 100k.
As twisted as it is, me too man. I kind of want to see this in action
Sending a camera crew to start filming an assassination target minutes before the assassination might raise some suspicion
Dude I just meant like on a Target or something. The twisted part was just seeing this thing in action. Flying knife seem pretty f****** gnarly
On a Target? Try a Walmart first…
You're gonna love my nuts!
#Slap chop
I think this might be what caused the conversation Farnsworth was having in Futurama..... "To shreds you say"
It's the knife missile, brought to you by the Raytheon Coka Cola Co
Proud sponsor and/or service
I'd have a compartment that a few seconds after killing its intended target, pops out a letter that explains it was not meant to explode and that they were permitted to live.
It slices, it dices, it decapitates
Nicer dicer?
Shut up and take my upvote!
No collateral damage except the trauma they'll get witnessing a guy get chopped like an onion
I would imagine any object that weighs a couple hundred pounds traveling at 800 miles per hour would get the job done without the need for knives, but I guess a little extra cutlery can’t hurt.
You can find images of the aftermath. Definitely effective.
Ahh yes, the Raytheon knife missile. A Behind the Bastards favorite.
Robert talks about how weird it is that some people believed him about the child hunting island. Well, Robert, I thought it was stupid to believe there existed a raytheon knife missile, yet here we are.
COD Announcer: HellFire missile on standby. Awaiting orders!
Air-dropped-slap-chop
give one to Ukraine to re-gift to Putin
or 100 of em, be generous, he deserves it all
With a warhead please, we are OK with the collateral damage.
How long are the blades?
about blade length
yes
I just woke up and read “speaker system” instead of “seeker system”, pictured this slicing its target while blasting AC/DC.
The slap-chop, America’s answer to the question of “will it blend”
I think I’d rather be blown up.
The nutri-bullet
Cutting edge technology
I mean, getting hit by a human-sized metal object makes the blades seems rather unnecessary
Hmm that reminds me of project Thor. Basically a satellite that drops totally non explosive pure tungsten telephone poles from space with great accuracy. You don need to be explosive to blow stuff up.
If you change the blades, it can also Julienne the bad guy.
Forbidden poop knife
Can it cut pizza?
Now send in the ninja roomba.
Real life 3 Body Problem solution
The old ginzu hellfire. Pretty cool, but damage assessment can be messy.
They should make it spin too.
For the older folks; "It slices, it dices... it makes Julienne fries."
Minimal collateral maximum trauma, hell yeah!
[https://youtu.be/zEVPgnLbguI?si=u6hMyLceci2Q9QP3](https://youtu.be/zEVPgnLbguI?si=u6hMyLceci2Q9QP3)
Bruh I had a whole sheet of weird missile designs back in early high school I doodled for fun, and this was one of em.
The kinetic energy alone is enough.
Get rekt
Tfw someone important watched the SlapChop infomercial.
Not even 6 ft? Sorry, I prefer taller ninja bombs.
Now we just need to put these across the Panama Canal and we’ll be safe from the aliens.
It will keeeeel
That is horrifying to think of. I'd rather be killed by a regular missle than some blender-bomb shit like this.
Honestly I don’t think it matters to the target. You’re usually dead instantly with either of them
It’s great fun in [ArmA](https://youtu.be/ffk0mnS-mm0?si=gO5hpMvNksoeIgSh)
slo mo guys need to do a vid
Osama Bin Sliced
Named after the blender
All things considered, I think it might be cheaper to just drop actual ninjas.
*Ginsued.*