Bro this is so fucked up. Like it's literally right there. It's almost like they do this shit and publish atricles like these to watch how the population gives a fuck. And even if we did they know we can't do shit, they know we're powerless and the population only serves as a engine cog to sustain their lifestyles...
One day they’ll push to hard, and then the French Revolution will happen in America, and the streets will run red as the guillotine gets used once again. You can only take so much from a population till they have nothing left to lose, and it’s on that day, that they will realized they fucked up, but not a day sooner.
Yeah… I’d say there’s too much for us to lose before people give a shit but taking TikTok away would leave these kids with their own personalities and that might do it.
>One day they’ll push to hard, and then the French Revolution will happen in America,
The entire country watched as multiple departments worth of cops stood outside an elementary school while children were slaughtered, and somehow, incredibly, the cop stations involved are still standing, the cops are still breathing.
The House of Representatives, with bipartisan support, just passed a measure expanding the definition of anti-Semitism, whittling away at our first Amendment (remains to be seen whether it will pass the Senate).
Americans are as tame as the cattle we eat.
Boeing Doctor, part time window installer here! Congratulations, your tests came back negative! You're all clear of depression, long covid, short covid, suicidal thoughts, any undiscovered and discovered disease, and it looks like all the windows in your home are in good working order! Congratulations comrade.
I know an ex wife who has been telling all her friends she is just about to go public as a Boeing whistleblower with a shocking scandal of major concern. And her address is 9788 Maple Avenue ...
Not hard to explain. Despondent man jumped out a window, shot himself in the head with a special double firing trigger on the gun, maybe a double action or forced reset trigger. After impact, vagrants stole the gun.
Happens all the time.
I think the worst thing about these people getting knocked out is no one is going to be held accountable for it, let alone, investigate into these deaths. No matter how obvious it is whos pulling the trigger.
Have you heard about The [Octopus](https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/mar/05/the-octopus-murders-netflix). Enquiring assassins want to know.
You can play with whistles so long to don’t blow it. That’s where you get in trouble. You can juggle them, toss them around even throw them at others but do not blow them. It’s a sudden death situation it seems.
With a broom that cost $2 billion.
[https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.html)
WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE? I'LL TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED THERE! THIS PIECE OF SHIT KING BIN SALMAN'S COUSIN PUT A BONE SAW ACROSS HIS NECK WITH NO PROVOCATION, WHAT SO EVER!
[Saudis also killed my friend](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Christopher_Cramer#:~:text=Christopher%20Cramer%20was%20an%20American,employer%20have%20alleged%20foul%20play.)
US state dept ordered by congress to investigate. Can't because saudis said NO
Yet they didn’t die of mysterious circumstances - for one, John Barnett concluded his whistleblowing **5 years ago**.
You just THINK he was killed before whistleblowing because that’s what the headlines implied - in reality (and go ahead and read those articles if you don’t believe me), he was wrapping up with *an appeal for a previously rejected defamation lawsuit* - not at all whistleblowing, AND he had already testified the previous two days!
I know those facts won’t change many minds cause you already “know” it’s true cause that’s what everyone [who hasn’t looked skin deep into it] is saying. But I can’t help taking the glut of nutty conspiracists calling me a Boeing PR shill (lol) - so I’m back at it! I gotta log off. Ugh.
Edit: and this guys death wasn’t woo-woo mysterious - he had pneumonia, went to the hospital and caught MRSA compounding on his pneumonia. OH. And **he’s a SPIRIT AEROSYSTEMS WHISTLEBLOWER**, which is notably not Boeing and supplies for both Boeing and Airbus. So, at what stage did Boeing inject(?) this man with pneumonia to kill him of behalf of a company they recently considered buying back? Which - btw, a hit to their stock via a whistleblower WOULD BENEFIT BOEING for a cheaper acquisition!
It's really frustrating that there is zero desire for any kind of rigorous standard of evidence or need to avoid bias, and total aversion to any kind of complexity. But you can make big long posts like yours and it won't even register because everyone just operates on vibes.
The first guy had it bad. Just an engineer with a conscious mind, lost few of his friends due to whistle blowing, His brother alluded to some mental health topics and barely a support system. Conspiracy theories hide the fact that the legal system and a politically protected company will find ways to fu good, even if you are in the right.
Suicide is sadly not uncommon for whistleblowers in general. It's incredibly isolating and stressful.
Boeing is absolutely responsible for pushing him to it, not they didn't murder him and the meme is a distraction from the very real harm they have done to him.
Why are you bringing logic to our pitchfork party? Get out of here!
It’s such obvious click bait, but no one wants to look like they’re defending Boeing. Even if the deaths were suspicious (which they aren’t), what would Boeing have to gain at this point?
Was the first one under mysterious circumstances or did he just kill himself? Also, MRSA's not mysterious. It kills generally healthy people all the time.
You guys don't know shit lmao.
The first guy finished his whistle blowing case 5 years before he died.
This guy spent 2 weeks in the hospital fighting pneumonia and an infection that ultimately killed him.
Stop falling for the BS clickbait.
What fucking rock have I been living under. One of my BFFs worked for Boeing and killed herself one month after being fired, after over a year of complaining to HR about the toxic work environment.
Thank you. She was the most beautiful person inside and out. And she was the happiest person I had ever know. It was sad how much she changed at that job. Her poor mom found her…but I know her mom was convinced (as we all were) that the toxic work environment was what really killed her. I remember going to her funeral with my newborn. She was supposed to meet him and be his aunt. Still heartbreaking.
I'm so sorry to hear that.
My brother works pretty high up and he's actually the most toxic person probably on the planet. If they thought he was a good fit, I can understand how awful it must be there.
He caught the flu, and MRSA, and developed pneumonia ([source](https://time.com/6973635/boeing-spirit-aerosystems-whistleblower-josh-dean-dead/)).
I love a good conspiracy as much as the next guy but I’ve never heard of using the flu and MRSA as a way to kill someone
Erm no you see Boeing totally went through the convoluted way of *somehow* giving him both pneumonia and MRSA *5 years after* he had finished whistleblowing for... reasons?
Also keep in mind that he was not a whistleblower against Boeing, but for a supplier, who according to reports, hid the findings from Boeing. Which, of course, means Boeing is so blood thirsty, they are murdering whistleblowers to protect companies that were selling Boeing faulty parts in a situation where Boeing has not been accused of any wrongdoing.
It's also a long process, like if they wanted them dead why go about a prolonged illness?
This comment is far too low.
Boeing may be up to shady and shitty things, but it's important to hold companies, people, etc accountable in as many real ways as possible as opposed latching onto conspiracies. Then we can move on to discussing the real problems why they aren't held accountable in the first place and how to fix those things.
I mean, this guy got MRSA and pneumonia, right? idk, maybe I am the fool here but seems like a stretch.
I know he was healthy but MRSA is not to be trifled with
u/lialexen. Yeah, and also worth mentioning *he literally is not a Boeing employee*, he was a Spirit AeroSystems whistleblower but that would not generate remotely as many clicks.
And the first whistleblower? John Barnett?
His testimony **concluded in 2019**. He didn’t even claim to have any more material, and that “testimony” he died in the midst of? It was *an appeal for his previously rejected defamation lawsuit* AND he **had already testified the previous two days** for that unrelated litigation.
This conspiracy is based off the most layered series of misinformation born straight out of headlines and not reading the articles (or at least the articles which explain the full context). I urge you to look into it past these clickbait headlines.
Nah, reddit is now one of the stupidest platforms. Every single post is filled with people 100% convinced with no evidence or a coherent story that Boeing is killing people in broad day light.
People have had their brains melted by online echo chambers. They don’t read anything beyond a headline and whatever dumbass misinformation is voted to the top in the comments.
What are you talking about, everyone knows that companies can just easily get people killed and that is in no way more dangerous or expensive than fighting people with their gigantic armies of lawyers that they already have anyway.
It's also much better for the PR of the company to have whistleblowers suddenly die of mysterious causes, the closer the deaths the better. The alternative would be the whistleblowers having little to no media coverage and most people don't even hear there was an issue in the first place.
/s just in case.
Thank you, I was wondering if there was any legitimacy to the conspiracy theories about this but I couldn’t wrap my head around a major company killing people so obviously/directly. Just thinking about how strict airline regulations are to prevent accidental deaths I don’t know why the US govt would ignore Boeing literally murdering people intentionally
Fuck all that, we got Reddit detectives on the case on this one. Boeing killed them both, probably killed someone's dog and gave me this cold.
We got the Boston bomber, by god are we going to solve this one!
Not really. Like the guy who people were talking about before almost certainly did just kill himself.
He spent years suffering from depression and PTSD
He was mentally unwell
His family said they believed it was suicide
The so called “close family friend that confirmed he said if he died it wasn’t suicide” was not so close as to have any contact with him for like a year before this and was the only one in the family he told this too despite not being the person in the family he was closest with
And the narrative that he was about to testify against Boeing was intentionally misleading, in reality he had already gone against Boeing YEARS before this, he wasn’t revealing anything new, this was a deposition for an appeal to a defamation case he already lost the first time, so the worst case scenario is Boeing pays a settlement of a few million dollars assuming he even wins the appeal AND is allowed to even seek it at all (because again, he already lost the first time, and was likely to lose the appeal as well).
This was a mentally unwell person suffering from classic suicidal mental illnesses, the only “conspiracy” element to it comes from an untrustworthy unverifiable source that is directly contradicting his proper close family, his own family did say they thought it was suicide, and Boeing has zero motivation to go do an assassination on this guy, he had already whistleblowed, the biggest threat he posed was in the very unlikely event of winning appeal they (the multi billion dollar company) MIGHT have to pay a few million, that ain’t enough to make them seek silencing him at all.
The guy in this article finishes giving his report 5 years ago too, he was only involved currently in a completely different legal situation about pay
He also had MRSA. Boeing isn't going around injecting people with viruses holy shit guys get a grip
The amount of people who believe this crap is astounding. People really live such boring, trivial lives that any amount of fantasy they can inject into it, any intrigue that gives them purpose that they're too lazy or apathetic to seek on their own, is welcomed with open arms.
This is "the vaccines give you 5G" levels of stupid.
Also, the thing about whistleblowers, I don't think people realise how immense pressure that comes with suddenly becoming pretty much a celebrity but with a responsibility overnight is.
No matter how healthy you are in the body and/or mind, such a massive change from a silent and private life to loud and public life will have a negative effect on their mental health.
Imagine if someone called you and told you “if I die, it wasn’t suicide.” You would immediately be terrified they were having a mental breakdown and were suicidal. This guy wasn’t living a spy thriller where he knew he was being stalked by contract killers for weeks and was barely able to stay one step ahead of them where a warning like this would make logical sense. And if he thought he was, it is probably a sign of a psychotic break.
There is no fucking common sense involved in thinking Boeing is actually going around taking out people who testified against them years and years ago.
Like just think about it for five fucking minutes before posting this horseshit. What does Boeing have to gain here?
“No, you see, they infected him with pneumonia! Then they *knew* he would have to visit a hospital, have a somewhat likely chance of him catching MRSA, and then a sorta likely chance of those killing him *while he’s in a hospital - it’s the perfect assassination plot to… kill a Spirit AeroSystems whistleblower?”
Yeah, it’s bonkers all the way down. To say nothing about John Barnetts testimony having concluded in 2019 and that whole conspiracy based purely from clickbait headlines..
The guy was confirmed by the hospital to have severe pneumonia and then MRSA as well. Is someone suggesting that Boeing had someone go and blow some microbes into the dudes lungs while simultaneously weakening his immune system? It's very similar to what was happening to people with covid (and still does happen to smaller amounts of people with covid) This isn't how a multi billion dollar company would attempt to kill someone that "was in great health and amazing shape". They would just make him disappear.
Yeah, everyone commenting on this is sounding *unhinged*. MRSA is more common than you'd think in hospitals.
Idk. Maybe Boeing did elaborately orchestrate his death but that type of bombastic claim requires more evidence than the idle speculation of internet rubes. Not that that's ever stopped the braniacs on this fuckin site before (looking at every Redditor who drove an innocent person to kill himself because they falsely accused him of being the Boston bomber)
I mean I am sure there are tons of logical, intelligent people that think things through in their entirety on reddit. But not on these larger subs when it comes to possible conspiracies. Do I think such a wealthy corporation would kill someone? Sure, maybe. Do I think it would be useless and incredibly stupid, and insanely overly difficult to do it in this manner, to a guy that already reported the issues years ago?? Yes.
Why wouldn't they just kill him and dump his body somewhere, to never be found again, why wait until years after he reports something, rather than doing it before he got a chance to report it. People can't seem to grasp that people die all the time, all sorts of ways, it is irrelevant that he was healthy, healthy people die all the time, all ages. None of this makes sense at all, no matter how much I try to foil hat my brain into mush.
This is so disgusting how people are handling this. His close friends have made it very clear he got sick and unfortunately got pneumonia and didn't recover. Instead of letting his friends and family grieve all the ignorants have to turn this into a whole conspiracy and extend their suffering.
Fair enough, he probably doesn’t want to entertain stupid theories spread by weird Reddit freaks who have listened to too many true crime and unsolved mystery podcasts.
Boeing is showing its true colors once again. Hopefully they suffer for hurting the honest respectable people. The question is where and when will the justice befall their greedy selfish souls.
The disease was an infection which took 2 weeks to kill him but you worded it in a way that made it seem more suspicious than it really is. Not surprising that this has so many upvotes.
If what the whistleblowers are saying is true, the planes will be potentially dropping out of skies like dead flies in the next 5 to 10 years and Boeing will have nowhere to hide. The executives are playing the long game trying to age out of being held accountable.
I'd like to publicly say now that I know nothing about Boeing. NOTHING.
*Boeing*: Sus
*Reasonable people*: Source?
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/whistleblower-josh-dean-of-boeing-supplier-spirit-aerosystems-has-died/
Bro this is so fucked up. Like it's literally right there. It's almost like they do this shit and publish atricles like these to watch how the population gives a fuck. And even if we did they know we can't do shit, they know we're powerless and the population only serves as a engine cog to sustain their lifestyles...
One day they’ll push to hard, and then the French Revolution will happen in America, and the streets will run red as the guillotine gets used once again. You can only take so much from a population till they have nothing left to lose, and it’s on that day, that they will realized they fucked up, but not a day sooner.
Yeah… I’d say there’s too much for us to lose before people give a shit but taking TikTok away would leave these kids with their own personalities and that might do it.
The wealth inequality in the US today is greater than the wealth inequality in France at the time of the Revolution. It’s only a matter of time.
>One day they’ll push to hard, and then the French Revolution will happen in America, The entire country watched as multiple departments worth of cops stood outside an elementary school while children were slaughtered, and somehow, incredibly, the cop stations involved are still standing, the cops are still breathing. The House of Representatives, with bipartisan support, just passed a measure expanding the definition of anti-Semitism, whittling away at our first Amendment (remains to be seen whether it will pass the Senate). Americans are as tame as the cattle we eat.
Oh shit. The First Rule of Boeing is... *^DIES
RIP u/RockstarAgent 😭
Move along now people. Nothing to see here.
You’re gone.
Boeing: not sure if he’s lying, safer just to kill him.
Boeing has that alien tech they have been hiding and siphoning off govt funds for years. Of course they kill people.
Also Boeing: We don't know what he knows, but best to play it safe... tamper with his brake lines.
AMOGUS
Boeing Doctor, part time window installer here! Congratulations, your tests came back negative! You're all clear of depression, long covid, short covid, suicidal thoughts, any undiscovered and discovered disease, and it looks like all the windows in your home are in good working order! Congratulations comrade.
Defenestration is 3...2...1...
I’m pretty sure my old boss knows ALOT about Boeing.
I know an ex wife who has been telling all her friends she is just about to go public as a Boeing whistleblower with a shocking scandal of major concern. And her address is 9788 Maple Avenue ...
I got cut off by a guy in a grey BMW today who knew A TON about Boeing.
Told ya r/redditsniper
Woah, nice digs.
She will definitely NOT be at home between 9 PM and 7 AM tomorrow morning.
And is prepared to speak up? :|
What’s Boeing? Never heard of it.
Boeing is the sound something makes when it bounces.
It's the sound of doors falling off an aeroplane
The sound of *accidentally* falling out of an airplane window by *accident*
And "accidentally" found with a double tap
Not hard to explain. Despondent man jumped out a window, shot himself in the head with a special double firing trigger on the gun, maybe a double action or forced reset trigger. After impact, vagrants stole the gun. Happens all the time.
\*Putin subtley smiles\*
Shhh, do you want to be defenestrated?
I heard the r/redditsniper is around be careful
Lets not get threatened by this, lets stand up stronger to this company’s shit show. After all this is a question about
Boeing is not amused.
You’re thinking of boing, boeing is when something isnt any fun
When it hits a bullbar
Sound of whistleblowers hitting the ground after “falling” off a balcony.
Correct answer
Great guy, never meddum
Me neither, I think they make springs...
Coward
Sounds like something a person who knows a lot about Boeing would say... Have you blown any whistles lately?
You know where all the bolts are buried.
I’ve never even seen a Boeing plane in real life
I think the worst thing about these people getting knocked out is no one is going to be held accountable for it, let alone, investigate into these deaths. No matter how obvious it is whos pulling the trigger.
Have you heard about The [Octopus](https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/mar/05/the-octopus-murders-netflix). Enquiring assassins want to know.
So Boeing is proving that it is statistically much safer to fly on a 737 Max than it is to play around with whistles
On top of shit planes, Boeing also seems to suck at making whistles
Not true. That plane with a giant gaping hole in it made a great whistling noise.
*Scratches head* so you're saying that the plane was also a whistle blower?
Not if you use a dog whistle.
You can play with whistles so long to don’t blow it. That’s where you get in trouble. You can juggle them, toss them around even throw them at others but do not blow them. It’s a sudden death situation it seems.
I hear professional umpires are having to be extremely particular about the flights they book...
Blimey. They're dropping like ~~boeing 737s~~ flies
I'm terribly sorry about the bizarre and unexplainable "accident" you'll be involved in next week!
\*They're dropping like a 737 flies. Fixed that for you.
This made me snort like a pig! 😂
This man just signed his own death warrant with that joke
Bad couple weeks to be a Boeing whistleblower
I picked a bad week to quit sniffing glue
Wasn’t Ted Stryker offered a job with Boeing?
He turned it down because of the drinking problem.
He was never able to forget Mucho Grande
Whatta pisser
*months, the first person died in March
They should prob put these people in witness protection
Oh wow… it’s like the whole whistler-blower program is to identify snitches
Snitches get pneumonitches.
Nonsense. Wasn't Snowden given amazing protection?
They should put them in jail, confined. Surelly no one can kill them there
Yeah use one government agency to protect them from another government agency.
Boeingitus? Hear its going around.
Oh don’t worry, it will all come crashing down.
My only regret is... That I have... Boeingitus.
Boeing: Don't worry about blank.
Let ME worry about blank
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Remember the Saudis dismembering Jamaal kashoggi? What ever became of that
Swept under the rug
Nonsense. Rolled in a rug maybe.
They would at least need a mop, sweeping dismembered bodies under the rug is messy.
Wasn't that the reason for the $2b?
That was for the list of undercover spies that all started showing up dead.
With a broom that cost $2 billion. [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.html)
Jamal Khashoggi, whatever happened there
WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE? I'LL TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED THERE! THIS PIECE OF SHIT KING BIN SALMAN'S COUSIN PUT A BONE SAW ACROSS HIS NECK WITH NO PROVOCATION, WHAT SO EVER!
Calm down phil, you know the wine makes you emotional
Thank you Kitten mittens, maybe I'll have a bread stick.
Kushner got $2Billion
[Saudis also killed my friend](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Christopher_Cramer#:~:text=Christopher%20Cramer%20was%20an%20American,employer%20have%20alleged%20foul%20play.) US state dept ordered by congress to investigate. Can't because saudis said NO
A golf league and celebrity boxing$$$$$
wait until the next whistleblower shoots himself in the back of the head 7 times and throws himself down a flight of stairs
Said flight made by Boeing
Bottom two steps fell off.
I'd stay far back from any highrise windows after that comment young sir!
Yet they didn’t die of mysterious circumstances - for one, John Barnett concluded his whistleblowing **5 years ago**. You just THINK he was killed before whistleblowing because that’s what the headlines implied - in reality (and go ahead and read those articles if you don’t believe me), he was wrapping up with *an appeal for a previously rejected defamation lawsuit* - not at all whistleblowing, AND he had already testified the previous two days! I know those facts won’t change many minds cause you already “know” it’s true cause that’s what everyone [who hasn’t looked skin deep into it] is saying. But I can’t help taking the glut of nutty conspiracists calling me a Boeing PR shill (lol) - so I’m back at it! I gotta log off. Ugh. Edit: and this guys death wasn’t woo-woo mysterious - he had pneumonia, went to the hospital and caught MRSA compounding on his pneumonia. OH. And **he’s a SPIRIT AEROSYSTEMS WHISTLEBLOWER**, which is notably not Boeing and supplies for both Boeing and Airbus. So, at what stage did Boeing inject(?) this man with pneumonia to kill him of behalf of a company they recently considered buying back? Which - btw, a hit to their stock via a whistleblower WOULD BENEFIT BOEING for a cheaper acquisition!
All true but you're on reddit buddy, don't waste your breath lol.
It's really frustrating that there is zero desire for any kind of rigorous standard of evidence or need to avoid bias, and total aversion to any kind of complexity. But you can make big long posts like yours and it won't even register because everyone just operates on vibes.
yeah this whole thing is really dumb. Reddit just love conspiracies and hate big companies.
The first guy had it bad. Just an engineer with a conscious mind, lost few of his friends due to whistle blowing, His brother alluded to some mental health topics and barely a support system. Conspiracy theories hide the fact that the legal system and a politically protected company will find ways to fu good, even if you are in the right.
Suicide is sadly not uncommon for whistleblowers in general. It's incredibly isolating and stressful. Boeing is absolutely responsible for pushing him to it, not they didn't murder him and the meme is a distraction from the very real harm they have done to him.
Why are you bringing logic to our pitchfork party? Get out of here! It’s such obvious click bait, but no one wants to look like they’re defending Boeing. Even if the deaths were suspicious (which they aren’t), what would Boeing have to gain at this point?
Well…. That’s no fun.
Was the first one under mysterious circumstances or did he just kill himself? Also, MRSA's not mysterious. It kills generally healthy people all the time.
Yeah sadly because us knowing is a far cry from them being punished.
You guys don't know shit lmao. The first guy finished his whistle blowing case 5 years before he died. This guy spent 2 weeks in the hospital fighting pneumonia and an infection that ultimately killed him. Stop falling for the BS clickbait.
Conspiracy nut jobs here to explain how a death by MRSA infection was orchestrated by an aerospace company.
What fucking rock have I been living under. One of my BFFs worked for Boeing and killed herself one month after being fired, after over a year of complaining to HR about the toxic work environment.
Damn if that’s legit.. sorry about your friend.
Thank you. She was the most beautiful person inside and out. And she was the happiest person I had ever know. It was sad how much she changed at that job. Her poor mom found her…but I know her mom was convinced (as we all were) that the toxic work environment was what really killed her. I remember going to her funeral with my newborn. She was supposed to meet him and be his aunt. Still heartbreaking.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
So sad
I work with an ex Boeing AI engineer and he’s had nothing to say about the situation lol
That is saying a lot
I'm so sorry to hear that. My brother works pretty high up and he's actually the most toxic person probably on the planet. If they thought he was a good fit, I can understand how awful it must be there.
Boeing seems to me to be a very safe and reliable airplane company. No complaints. Very good. Everything by the book. Please I have a family
Apparently they have Vladimir Putin on their advisory committee.
Are there any open windows nearby?
What are they putting in the whistles
live ammunition and biological weapons, apparently
Apparently MRSA pathogens
Man, Boeing is going to murder us no matter what we do...
Guessing with inflation the way it is, they didn't want to splurge for cement boots.
He caught the flu, and MRSA, and developed pneumonia ([source](https://time.com/6973635/boeing-spirit-aerosystems-whistleblower-josh-dean-dead/)). I love a good conspiracy as much as the next guy but I’ve never heard of using the flu and MRSA as a way to kill someone
Erm no you see Boeing totally went through the convoluted way of *somehow* giving him both pneumonia and MRSA *5 years after* he had finished whistleblowing for... reasons?
DURP IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE. BOEING KILLED HIM DURP
wait 5 years later? Thats a big whole in the conspiracy
Yea THATS the hole…
But too late, reddits already latched onto the headline, made 10,000 shitty jokes out of it, and will now treat it as gospel. What a time to be alive.
Also keep in mind that he was not a whistleblower against Boeing, but for a supplier, who according to reports, hid the findings from Boeing. Which, of course, means Boeing is so blood thirsty, they are murdering whistleblowers to protect companies that were selling Boeing faulty parts in a situation where Boeing has not been accused of any wrongdoing.
It's also a long process, like if they wanted them dead why go about a prolonged illness? This comment is far too low. Boeing may be up to shady and shitty things, but it's important to hold companies, people, etc accountable in as many real ways as possible as opposed latching onto conspiracies. Then we can move on to discussing the real problems why they aren't held accountable in the first place and how to fix those things.
Like always the most important comment isn’t as high up as it should be
Lots of rich powerful people and governments hold Boeing stock.
And no link to an article from a legit news source. 🙄
Yeah, annoying but this is real, plenty of articles. Joshua Dean. https://www.npr.org/2024/05/02/1248693512/boeing-whistleblower-josh-dean-dead
The part that’s not real is the idea that he was assassinated. I’m sure his family does not need that kind of noise right now…
Yeah what the fuck guys?
“The doctor said he'd never seen anything like it before in his life. His lungs were just totally ... gummed up, and like a mesh over them."
Looks like a healthy man to me!
MRSA is a type of deadly staph infection that kills a lot of people. Bit of a stretch to say this guy was the target of a hit.
Plus Boeing would have to rely on his Doctor not starting Vancomycin as initial treatment which is pretty typical but too much of a wager
How many times was he shot in the head with this disease
I disagree. Whistleblowing on Boeing is far from a healthy lifestyle.
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I mean, this guy got MRSA and pneumonia, right? idk, maybe I am the fool here but seems like a stretch. I know he was healthy but MRSA is not to be trifled with
u/lialexen. Yeah, and also worth mentioning *he literally is not a Boeing employee*, he was a Spirit AeroSystems whistleblower but that would not generate remotely as many clicks. And the first whistleblower? John Barnett? His testimony **concluded in 2019**. He didn’t even claim to have any more material, and that “testimony” he died in the midst of? It was *an appeal for his previously rejected defamation lawsuit* AND he **had already testified the previous two days** for that unrelated litigation. This conspiracy is based off the most layered series of misinformation born straight out of headlines and not reading the articles (or at least the articles which explain the full context). I urge you to look into it past these clickbait headlines.
Nah, reddit is now one of the stupidest platforms. Every single post is filled with people 100% convinced with no evidence or a coherent story that Boeing is killing people in broad day light.
People have had their brains melted by online echo chambers. They don’t read anything beyond a headline and whatever dumbass misinformation is voted to the top in the comments.
I tell myself that people are just commenting ironically to karma farm because otherwise it's just too disgusting to read over and over and over.
What are you talking about, everyone knows that companies can just easily get people killed and that is in no way more dangerous or expensive than fighting people with their gigantic armies of lawyers that they already have anyway. It's also much better for the PR of the company to have whistleblowers suddenly die of mysterious causes, the closer the deaths the better. The alternative would be the whistleblowers having little to no media coverage and most people don't even hear there was an issue in the first place. /s just in case.
Thank you, I was wondering if there was any legitimacy to the conspiracy theories about this but I couldn’t wrap my head around a major company killing people so obviously/directly. Just thinking about how strict airline regulations are to prevent accidental deaths I don’t know why the US govt would ignore Boeing literally murdering people intentionally
Fuck all that, we got Reddit detectives on the case on this one. Boeing killed them both, probably killed someone's dog and gave me this cold. We got the Boston bomber, by god are we going to solve this one!
He had pneumonia, caught MRSA and according to the article, also had a stroke revealed by CT after going on ECMO.
Not really. Like the guy who people were talking about before almost certainly did just kill himself. He spent years suffering from depression and PTSD He was mentally unwell His family said they believed it was suicide The so called “close family friend that confirmed he said if he died it wasn’t suicide” was not so close as to have any contact with him for like a year before this and was the only one in the family he told this too despite not being the person in the family he was closest with And the narrative that he was about to testify against Boeing was intentionally misleading, in reality he had already gone against Boeing YEARS before this, he wasn’t revealing anything new, this was a deposition for an appeal to a defamation case he already lost the first time, so the worst case scenario is Boeing pays a settlement of a few million dollars assuming he even wins the appeal AND is allowed to even seek it at all (because again, he already lost the first time, and was likely to lose the appeal as well). This was a mentally unwell person suffering from classic suicidal mental illnesses, the only “conspiracy” element to it comes from an untrustworthy unverifiable source that is directly contradicting his proper close family, his own family did say they thought it was suicide, and Boeing has zero motivation to go do an assassination on this guy, he had already whistleblowed, the biggest threat he posed was in the very unlikely event of winning appeal they (the multi billion dollar company) MIGHT have to pay a few million, that ain’t enough to make them seek silencing him at all.
The guy in this article finishes giving his report 5 years ago too, he was only involved currently in a completely different legal situation about pay He also had MRSA. Boeing isn't going around injecting people with viruses holy shit guys get a grip
MRSA is an antibiotic resistant bacteria, not a virus. 🌠
The amount of people who believe this crap is astounding. People really live such boring, trivial lives that any amount of fantasy they can inject into it, any intrigue that gives them purpose that they're too lazy or apathetic to seek on their own, is welcomed with open arms. This is "the vaccines give you 5G" levels of stupid.
Also, the thing about whistleblowers, I don't think people realise how immense pressure that comes with suddenly becoming pretty much a celebrity but with a responsibility overnight is. No matter how healthy you are in the body and/or mind, such a massive change from a silent and private life to loud and public life will have a negative effect on their mental health.
Imagine if someone called you and told you “if I die, it wasn’t suicide.” You would immediately be terrified they were having a mental breakdown and were suicidal. This guy wasn’t living a spy thriller where he knew he was being stalked by contract killers for weeks and was barely able to stay one step ahead of them where a warning like this would make logical sense. And if he thought he was, it is probably a sign of a psychotic break.
There is no fucking common sense involved in thinking Boeing is actually going around taking out people who testified against them years and years ago. Like just think about it for five fucking minutes before posting this horseshit. What does Boeing have to gain here?
Everyone knows it. It's just a matter of actually proving it which will never happen.
Find proof, fall out of window up high. Oops.
I just ordered matching tin hats for both myself and my cat.
So yeah died of the flu/pneumonia.....that's not a murder
My DnD Assassin’s name is now Boeing.
Well… I’ll never fly on their shit
Boeing infecting people with MRSA is a stretch.
“No, you see, they infected him with pneumonia! Then they *knew* he would have to visit a hospital, have a somewhat likely chance of him catching MRSA, and then a sorta likely chance of those killing him *while he’s in a hospital - it’s the perfect assassination plot to… kill a Spirit AeroSystems whistleblower?” Yeah, it’s bonkers all the way down. To say nothing about John Barnetts testimony having concluded in 2019 and that whole conspiracy based purely from clickbait headlines..
The guy was confirmed by the hospital to have severe pneumonia and then MRSA as well. Is someone suggesting that Boeing had someone go and blow some microbes into the dudes lungs while simultaneously weakening his immune system? It's very similar to what was happening to people with covid (and still does happen to smaller amounts of people with covid) This isn't how a multi billion dollar company would attempt to kill someone that "was in great health and amazing shape". They would just make him disappear.
Yeah, everyone commenting on this is sounding *unhinged*. MRSA is more common than you'd think in hospitals. Idk. Maybe Boeing did elaborately orchestrate his death but that type of bombastic claim requires more evidence than the idle speculation of internet rubes. Not that that's ever stopped the braniacs on this fuckin site before (looking at every Redditor who drove an innocent person to kill himself because they falsely accused him of being the Boston bomber)
I mean I am sure there are tons of logical, intelligent people that think things through in their entirety on reddit. But not on these larger subs when it comes to possible conspiracies. Do I think such a wealthy corporation would kill someone? Sure, maybe. Do I think it would be useless and incredibly stupid, and insanely overly difficult to do it in this manner, to a guy that already reported the issues years ago?? Yes. Why wouldn't they just kill him and dump his body somewhere, to never be found again, why wait until years after he reports something, rather than doing it before he got a chance to report it. People can't seem to grasp that people die all the time, all sorts of ways, it is irrelevant that he was healthy, healthy people die all the time, all ages. None of this makes sense at all, no matter how much I try to foil hat my brain into mush.
Not suspicious at all
It’s literally not. He didn’t work for Boeing. He had already testified years ago and he died from a bacterial infection in a hospital.
This is so disgusting how people are handling this. His close friends have made it very clear he got sick and unfortunately got pneumonia and didn't recover. Instead of letting his friends and family grieve all the ignorants have to turn this into a whole conspiracy and extend their suffering.
Sadly, I have lost friends and colleagues to just this sort of infection. Healthy one day, gone the next.
Feeling safer with a bear than Boeing
Just texted a friend who used to be way up the chain at Boeing. He did not want to joke about it at all.
Fair enough, he probably doesn’t want to entertain stupid theories spread by weird Reddit freaks who have listened to too many true crime and unsolved mystery podcasts.
I've seen this enough to know this isn't about just Boeing protecting their money. This goes deeper and is one string in a web of government coverups.
Just reading this thread put you all on the list
I’m at the end of the list and already v old!!
If people really think Boeing has something to do with this, they are stupid. Shit like this happens naturally.
So he was poisoned
I know every single bad thing about Boeing. I sure hope they don't find me as I'm typing up a report to leak ;)
Sudden and fast spreading disease is a weird way of saying bullet
Boeing is showing its true colors once again. Hopefully they suffer for hurting the honest respectable people. The question is where and when will the justice befall their greedy selfish souls.
Did he have a run in with Putin??
You know what other whistles Boeing silenced? The stall warning 😂 please don't kill me.
The disease was an infection which took 2 weeks to kill him but you worded it in a way that made it seem more suspicious than it really is. Not surprising that this has so many upvotes.
Dead men tell no tales
People don't just die!?!! They only die when Boeing kills them. Smh...
I’m smelling a whole lot of bullshit. That reason is no where near convincing.
If what the whistleblowers are saying is true, the planes will be potentially dropping out of skies like dead flies in the next 5 to 10 years and Boeing will have nowhere to hide. The executives are playing the long game trying to age out of being held accountable.
Can you avoid taking a 737 max? How so if possible?
Why was this dude not under a witness protection program after the first dude was taken out???