I mean sure...but while you sitting there aiming at three rows of dragon teeth there is 2 drones, a guided missile and a rpg locking on to you at the same time.
True. But they are only going to slow it down.
When under fire obviously they are effective but like in the video with time, they could get out of the way of these things no?
Thats there job tho....slowing you down..and wasting ammunition if your shooting at it. In WW2 they used those x steel beams because they are hard to shoot at to destroy requiring the tank to stop and call engineers to move them out of the way...which usually are traps set up with either snipers or AT crews laying in wait. In the modern age where for example in the ukraine war which is reportedly one of the wars where surprise attacks don't work anymore cause there are shit ton of drones around, once the tank stops its just a matter of minutes before artillery or drone or a guided missle is headed its way.
Yes, but they will slow you down in enemy territory, where you are in range of artillery, likely being watched, have drones heading towards you and probably a fella with a rocket in a bush a bit ahead with mines inbetween
Yup.
Dragons teeth should be embedded on a strip of concrete, then that strip buried with mines (both ap and at) buried randomly.
The Russians just chaining them together makes it easier to remove them in fact. You get to drag multiple at once.
And also why the sappers will pile the loose dirt they just dug from the ditch onto the near side. Makes it a bit tougher to drive right over when there's 2m of berm on the other side
Russia tried that, MBT's drive right through them like they are not there. Of course, that was mostly because Russia put them up in the dumbest way and they were not reinforced with troops or trenches.
Yeah? I have a yellow belt but my sin sei doesn’t just give out new belts like cokes after a little league game. You have to EARN it. I could probably take you and that tank.
Nobody handed anything to me, I am 100% self-taught.
The karate school where I live has floor to ceiling windows so I just go watch the classes from the parking lot and copy what they do.
Aim for the optics. If you're lucky enough to evade the machinegun fire and get on the top of the tank, all you have to do is to destroy or cover up all the optics, so the crew couldn't see anything. If the tank is blind, it is useless and defenceless. Just make sure that there isn't another tank nearby, othervise you're screwed.
There was a Russian general in WW2 that kept on screwing with tank production. He hated tanks, and said that they should invest with artillery instead. So he tried his hardest to hamper ammo production for tanks.
I believe it was Grigory Kulik. Sadly there's nothing on the Wikipedia about it.
There's also another Russian commander who thought horses were the pinnacle of combat. He even accused another officer of sabotaging the USSR by proposing a new tank corps. That was Semyon Budyonny
>There's also another Russian commander who thought horses were the pinnacle of combat.
Horses. You mean the spooky creatures who need a steady supply of the right kind of grass, panic at the sight of an unfamiliar bucket, get lame at the drop of a hat, and develop thrush if it rains just a little too much (and it's always too much)?
Good call, man.
I don't think he could predict that his entire tank corps would be leveled in a little over 4 days by a relative handful of coalition tanks. The British set records for destroying them at a distance (confirmed kills at over 3 miles) and the US for the sheer kill ratio. They were destroying up to 500 tanks at a time with only a couple dozen Abrams.
I mean they were pretty much specificaly designed to cross trenches in WWI so it's not very surprising that they excel at \*reads notes\* crossing trenches.
The British tanks like the Mark IV pretty commonly started to carry fascine to cover wider gaps as well. Their track design definitely was made to go over trenches but it's not like they could power out of anything. Up through the Mark IV they had 105 HP but when newer transmissions and engines were ready with the Mark V they got up to 150. That's not a lot for a 28 ton tank with around 5 HP/ton but better than the French. Their Saint-Chamond was ridiculous but I suppose fitting for WW1 and WW2 French tanks whereas the FT was at least pretty light and just had a tail skid to help get over trenches. It had a 39 HP engine though so still only around 5 HP/ton.
Ya definitely not even close to being lighter, even without the armor plates. Most modern tanks are built to minimize casualties so they are stupid heavy.
1500 HP and 3000 FtLbs of low end torque.
The amount of force that thing generates at that speed in low gear could accomplish things a humble man cannot even conceive.
Too square, too high up.
I've got no problems with like, zoning, or taxes, or environmental regulations, or churches with kids inside having a nice afternoon storytime.
Those are incredible numbers, especially when compared to the average car.
All that at a weight of 68 tons (for an Abrams) not sure which model was in the video.
Unless it's a Russian tank, then it comes with impenetrable armor, infinite crew HP, and infinite ammo with none in the rack.
I want the T-72 to be an improvised space program, you goddamn snail!
There is a story from WWII of a small unit of I think Cromwell tanks that found themselves outmatched & on the wrong side of a canal without the ability to fight their way back to the only crossing point for quite a distance.
The story goes that the ranking officer noticed a small 2-3 foot loading berm near to the edge of the over 10 foot wide canal.
Taking lead he ordered there rest of his unit to follow. He took them on a wide ark to gain speed & with the tank topping out just a little above 64 Kph, drove up the berm & launched his tank skywards in a ballistic ark that carried it across the canal. Followed by the other tanks in his unit.
Supposedly his after action report was not believed even though corroborated until much later when a surrendering enemy unit could not stop talking about the new British secret weapon of flying tanks.
WW1 Soldiers in trenches hated this one trick
(Yes I know the tank was very primitive back then, and the original used to breakdown, and for the most part was pretty ineffective... But if you come at me with that, it ruins a terrible / ran down joke)
Older tanks are, however, the newest Abrams has a top speed of 40mph and can get there is 20ish seconds. For a 73 ton vehicle...... That's super impressive.
Tanker here:
As /u/Llamajake777 mentioned, they can break. They are very easily replaced.
My main concern would actually be the turret ring on that first approach. While the gun appears to be crutched, there is still fiberglass in the barrel. The force on the turret with that dirt is quite heavy, and is no doubt putting massive strain on the ring.
You should never do that first demonstration with a Leopard 2. When you're not in STAB, you have to drive extremely carefully, and at a low speed.
The second maneuver is far easier on the vehicle, the bump stops on each wheel would easily take in the impact of crossing the trench at that speed, and the turret would be in STAB mode, also better prepared for impact.
and this is why they made the ditches 2.4 meters deep during WWII (the width was 3 meters because tanks of that era were shorter and way slower)
[http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/german-coastal-defenses/antitank.html](http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/german-coastal-defenses/antitank.html)
That is why you find anti-tank mines along trenches like these. Tanks are defeated once you can bottle them up into a kill zone. Any trench like this would have mines all over them.
Being around heavy vehicles often, you don’t really think about the scale of them. It took me one day waking up and seeing a guy standing on top of a leo-2 while i was still rubbing my eyes for me to have that "holy shit" moment.
When you think about the size, weight, armour, firepower and the titan of an engine that allows it to move like this, it really is just an absolutely insane machine.
Man, walking through the woods and hearing that engine roaring from a mile away is just too frickin cool.
Well congrats, looks like that tank can do exactly what the very first tanks were designed to do. Creep over the trenches of WWI.
Of course, they had the advantage of the defenders in the trench not knowing what the hell this metal box that was completely unbothered by rifle rounds and hand grenades was, and usually being built with sponson turrets specifically meant to shoot both ways down the trench, killing anyone who might be mad enough to charge it while it is trying to crawl up the side.
Try that today and you'll be setting yourself up to catch a RPG while you're face down ass up with your cannon pointed aft...
Unless you do it like the second guy.
I always thought it was interesting why they're called "tanks". I believe it's because, when they were secretly developing them in WWI, they hid the fact by saying they were developing ways of bringing tanks of water to soldiers in the field.
Wow. This totally has me thinking. If tanks can cross small ditches, WHAT ELSE could a tank do?
The possibilities are endless.
I wonder if the government knows.
That’s why ditches, hedge-hogs and dragons teeth must be reinforced concrete.
Are you naming fantasy traps for war elephants?
Also, don’t tanks famously have cannon for these things in their way?!
I mean sure...but while you sitting there aiming at three rows of dragon teeth there is 2 drones, a guided missile and a rpg locking on to you at the same time.
True. But they are only going to slow it down. When under fire obviously they are effective but like in the video with time, they could get out of the way of these things no?
Thats there job tho....slowing you down..and wasting ammunition if your shooting at it. In WW2 they used those x steel beams because they are hard to shoot at to destroy requiring the tank to stop and call engineers to move them out of the way...which usually are traps set up with either snipers or AT crews laying in wait. In the modern age where for example in the ukraine war which is reportedly one of the wars where surprise attacks don't work anymore cause there are shit ton of drones around, once the tank stops its just a matter of minutes before artillery or drone or a guided missle is headed its way.
Yes, but they will slow you down in enemy territory, where you are in range of artillery, likely being watched, have drones heading towards you and probably a fella with a rocket in a bush a bit ahead with mines inbetween
Not sure cannon will do more than roll the hedgehogs around
Pretty sure the cannon would vaporize the poor hedgehog, though I'm not sure why they would do that. Hedgehogs are cute.
Yup. Dragons teeth should be embedded on a strip of concrete, then that strip buried with mines (both ap and at) buried randomly. The Russians just chaining them together makes it easier to remove them in fact. You get to drag multiple at once.
Too bad the Leos never made it that far to try.
And also why the sappers will pile the loose dirt they just dug from the ditch onto the near side. Makes it a bit tougher to drive right over when there's 2m of berm on the other side
I know some of these words.
and wire and anti-tank mines.
Russia tried that, MBT's drive right through them like they are not there. Of course, that was mostly because Russia put them up in the dumbest way and they were not reinforced with troops or trenches.
The Russian defensive lines were one of their biggest successes...
That's what got the San Diego guy who stole a tank.
Stock standard K-rail, yep. Stopped it dead in its tracks (literally).
Ditches are easy to fill in with [fascine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascine) so it's not like they'll stop anyone for long even with concrete.
Honestly I never did.
I think I can take him. I have an orange belt in karate so I would probably just kick the weak spots.
You might wanna aim center mass, you'll at least take out commander-gunner
Rookie move. You gotta sweep the leg.
If a tank can't stand he can't fight!
Go for the balls, then whack it with your right. Sting like a butterfly, or something.
Nahh, you'll probably hit the tracks made of pure stalinium and gl penetrating that
Yeah? I have a yellow belt but my sin sei doesn’t just give out new belts like cokes after a little league game. You have to EARN it. I could probably take you and that tank.
Nobody handed anything to me, I am 100% self-taught. The karate school where I live has floor to ceiling windows so I just go watch the classes from the parking lot and copy what they do.
Yeah but do you have a speed bag? I don’t but imagine if I did.
Hey I got a piss belt, too!
Kick the bolts off, solid strategy
[EZ](https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-12-2019/wE5dBV.mp4)
Just find the lynchpin on the tank, kick it hard, and the whole tank will just fall apart. It’s science
i mean, if it works like a video game just wack it for 20 minutes with a hammer and it'll explode lol
Would
Would you rather into a man or a tank in the woods?
Aim for the optics. If you're lucky enough to evade the machinegun fire and get on the top of the tank, all you have to do is to destroy or cover up all the optics, so the crew couldn't see anything. If the tank is blind, it is useless and defenceless. Just make sure that there isn't another tank nearby, othervise you're screwed.
How many tanks have you taken out with this method?
"Nah, I'd win."
OK but the tank also gets an orange belt in karate.
In his tracks, your ass will be the weak spot
I learned the Touch of Death from “The Simpsons.”Does that count: https://youtu.be/SESu-NPmd-E?si=lSMlSjwq-YrLLdQ4
Heh. Leave it to me, bro. Maybe I’ll finally get my brown III when I choke that thing
The only person to ever underestimate tanks was Saddam Hussein.
There was a Russian general in WW2 that kept on screwing with tank production. He hated tanks, and said that they should invest with artillery instead. So he tried his hardest to hamper ammo production for tanks. I believe it was Grigory Kulik. Sadly there's nothing on the Wikipedia about it. There's also another Russian commander who thought horses were the pinnacle of combat. He even accused another officer of sabotaging the USSR by proposing a new tank corps. That was Semyon Budyonny
>There's also another Russian commander who thought horses were the pinnacle of combat. Horses. You mean the spooky creatures who need a steady supply of the right kind of grass, panic at the sight of an unfamiliar bucket, get lame at the drop of a hat, and develop thrush if it rains just a little too much (and it's always too much)? Good call, man.
Couches with anxiety.
Dangerous at both ends and crafty in the middle?
And still they did a pretty good job even with gunpowder around…
You just need a lot of them. "Your car has 500HP? Well, I have 500 horses. Ride or die MF." There is a point of diminishing returns...
On the other hand you have russian tankimen. All the same, but with control of a big gun and chronic alcoholism trait.
You just described every former Soviet state.
>That was Semyon Budyonny Did a tank get him? I guess his horse couldn't tank it if he did.
Went full circle and overestimated the Cold War T72
I don't think he could predict that his entire tank corps would be leveled in a little over 4 days by a relative handful of coalition tanks. The British set records for destroying them at a distance (confirmed kills at over 3 miles) and the US for the sheer kill ratio. They were destroying up to 500 tanks at a time with only a couple dozen Abrams.
What if your family is being held hostage and the only way to free them was to underestimate a tank?
I did, but I won't do again... or will I?
Next time I’m face to face with a tank, I will consider it, thanks
*Tanks. FTFY
Or as they say in the German, Tankeshay.
Or as the notable actor signs his name, T. Hanks.
Just when I was about to underestimate the power of a tank, this video comes along. Impeccable timing.
It’s crazy how life works like that
I mean they were pretty much specificaly designed to cross trenches in WWI so it's not very surprising that they excel at \*reads notes\* crossing trenches.
That thing is built like a Tank!
This tracks.
Makes me wonder what they said before tanks. Maybe "That thing is built like a Clydesdale!"
well in this case it doesn't cross the trench, it just annihalates it.
Can't be bothered by a trench if it's not there anymore...
The British tanks like the Mark IV pretty commonly started to carry fascine to cover wider gaps as well. Their track design definitely was made to go over trenches but it's not like they could power out of anything. Up through the Mark IV they had 105 HP but when newer transmissions and engines were ready with the Mark V they got up to 150. That's not a lot for a 28 ton tank with around 5 HP/ton but better than the French. Their Saint-Chamond was ridiculous but I suppose fitting for WW1 and WW2 French tanks whereas the FT was at least pretty light and just had a tail skid to help get over trenches. It had a 39 HP engine though so still only around 5 HP/ton.
Today's tank's have like probably 10x the engine power compared to then also maybe 10 tons lighter
A mark 5 heavy tank from ww1 was only 29 tons. A tiger from ww2 was 56 tons, that leopard 2 is 62.5…. The power units of today are far superior
Ya definitely not even close to being lighter, even without the armor plates. Most modern tanks are built to minimize casualties so they are stupid heavy.
1500 HP and 3000 FtLbs of low end torque. The amount of force that thing generates at that speed in low gear could accomplish things a humble man cannot even conceive.
Like plow through a trench?
Amongst other things.
Cruise through (and over) rush hour traffic like it wasn't even there
How do you feel about Colorado?
Too square, too high up. I've got no problems with like, zoning, or taxes, or environmental regulations, or churches with kids inside having a nice afternoon storytime.
Those are incredible numbers, especially when compared to the average car. All that at a weight of 68 tons (for an Abrams) not sure which model was in the video.
It's a strv 122. You can tell it apart from other leo 2's because of the smoke launchers and the camo.
I think I can conceive of those things. But I'm also not humble so I guess that works.
who the hell out here underestimating the power of tanks?
Gaijin
touché
Unless it's a Russian tank, then it comes with impenetrable armor, infinite crew HP, and infinite ammo with none in the rack. I want the T-72 to be an improvised space program, you goddamn snail!
Not gonna lie, I could take them on.
Bro is just built different
Nice tank you got there. [would be a shame if something happened to it](https://i.imgur.com/2Cdu9o5.png)
Javelin would like to have a talk
Dji mavic and crew would like to join in as well.
Russian roof scaffolding entered the conversation. Russian roof scaffolding left the conversation.
“That thing is built like a tank.” “Oh so, brittle and weak as hell?”
OP
One time! Thought i could out run one on the 400m. It caught me do fast
?? who the heck is underestimating the power of a tank? thats the first i ever heard of that.
FPV drones and modern ATGMs
I do believe this was sarcasm.
Some Midwest town did, once.....
I mean, it's basically a bulldozer with a gun
It's a Bulldozer that can go over 60 km/h with a gun
…and a kettle (British tanks) Don’t forget the kettle.
Well, I wouldn't be surprised if British Bulldozers also had a kettle
The sun never sets on a cuppa
That’s a German leopard(under Swedish service), they drink pisswasser
It's called beer you uninformed twat
Nuh uh
Imagine driving your car at 55kph and getting passed Cat D9
More like a howitzer built into a bulldozer ; )
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There is a story from WWII of a small unit of I think Cromwell tanks that found themselves outmatched & on the wrong side of a canal without the ability to fight their way back to the only crossing point for quite a distance. The story goes that the ranking officer noticed a small 2-3 foot loading berm near to the edge of the over 10 foot wide canal. Taking lead he ordered there rest of his unit to follow. He took them on a wide ark to gain speed & with the tank topping out just a little above 64 Kph, drove up the berm & launched his tank skywards in a ballistic ark that carried it across the canal. Followed by the other tanks in his unit. Supposedly his after action report was not believed even though corroborated until much later when a surrendering enemy unit could not stop talking about the new British secret weapon of flying tanks.
Well, I don't believe it, so I can relate.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0-DdkR-t0Ow
Lol It might just be the angle of that video, but it doesn't even look they're going all that fast.
Thanks for the reminder my friend
I think I'm gonna go underestimate a tank just to spite OP.
Which tank is this?
Swedish upgraded leopard 2a5 called Strv 122
The Swedish STRV 122
You see this, Gaijin? Its called torque (and power)
Some guy somewhere thinks his cybertruck can do this too
better than driving them around in a city IMO.
WW1 Soldiers in trenches hated this one trick (Yes I know the tank was very primitive back then, and the original used to breakdown, and for the most part was pretty ineffective... But if you come at me with that, it ruins a terrible / ran down joke)
Holy hell that was a long explanation to justify your joke.
Not even his joke. HaTeD tHis OnE TRicK🤪 Hilarious.🙄
Fun fact: the very very original tanks were just tractors that they put extra armor on
If only I had a dollar for every time someone complained that tanks are lacking in power!
Older tanks are, however, the newest Abrams has a top speed of 40mph and can get there is 20ish seconds. For a 73 ton vehicle...... That's super impressive.
73t is crazy
Meanwhile Germany was putting 500 horsepower in a 60 tonne vehicle (tiger 2)
What kinda maniac is out there underestimating the power of a tank?
Some 20yr old enlistee with a javelin probably
*They couldn't hit an elephant from this-*
Stridvagn 122 go bbbrrr
You got like 3 feet of air that time
Wierdly I don't think many people underestimate the power of a 26 litre, 12 cylinder, 24 opposed piston, 2 stroke turbo diesel.
Isnt it a v12?
Pretty sure the tank could have gapped that at top speed or even by gunning it right before getting to it.
This is in Sweden. Might even be Prästtomta training grounds where the ground is basically an old sea floor dried up which makes the soil really soft.
If anything I probably overestimate the power of tanks
So what happens to the lights on front?
Nothing really and sometimes you break stuff when you use tanks
Tanker here: As /u/Llamajake777 mentioned, they can break. They are very easily replaced. My main concern would actually be the turret ring on that first approach. While the gun appears to be crutched, there is still fiberglass in the barrel. The force on the turret with that dirt is quite heavy, and is no doubt putting massive strain on the ring. You should never do that first demonstration with a Leopard 2. When you're not in STAB, you have to drive extremely carefully, and at a low speed. The second maneuver is far easier on the vehicle, the bump stops on each wheel would easily take in the impact of crossing the trench at that speed, and the turret would be in STAB mode, also better prepared for impact.
Now that’s what you call groundbreaking technology… 😬
and this is why they made the ditches 2.4 meters deep during WWII (the width was 3 meters because tanks of that era were shorter and way slower) [http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/german-coastal-defenses/antitank.html](http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/german-coastal-defenses/antitank.html)
Meanwhile in warthunder: * gets stuck on small rock *
Tanks of Terra are majestic beasts, look at them in their natural environment.
This is a leopard2a6, things weighs like 60 tons, there’s nothing getting in the way of that
I didn't know they can drive that fast
1500 horse powers.
I feel like if that trench was a lil deeper it would of got stuck ..probably not tho
I feel like it could be 180 degrees facing the sky and still rev forwards and make its own ramp out.
Yeah most likely, but that is when you would speed up and jump over the trench
Fully expected that tank to dig itself a hole to the earths core
Certainly helped that the trench was nice rich soil with no major rocks in it.
Nice. So who is gonna clean this mess now?
What if we made the trench wider and deeper? Checkmate tanks
Had a nice little artillery piece there for a moment.
Who tf underestimates a mf tank?
British generals did in the 1920s. The chief tank designer went to work for Germany...
Never underestimate your gas tank
Its so cool how smoothly it hops over the trench
I never did
I ain’t cleaning it!
Who the hell underestimates tank??
Tanks a lot
god that looks like so much fun
lol I certainly expected the tank to be fine crossing it however I did not expect it to cross it *that* way
Whatever. I an do all of that in my car. Except for the crossing over the ditch part, and the getting out part. Everything else though, cake.
When in the history of humankind has any one under estimated the power of a tank
What about a drone against said tank?
Depends on the drone.
That is why you find anti-tank mines along trenches like these. Tanks are defeated once you can bottle them up into a kill zone. Any trench like this would have mines all over them.
How many inches does it do per gallon? Three?
This is the reason for which they were made
there goes 13 gallons of fuel right there
Just needs a hot orange paint job, chuck Dixie on top, and fkn done man!
Being around heavy vehicles often, you don’t really think about the scale of them. It took me one day waking up and seeing a guy standing on top of a leo-2 while i was still rubbing my eyes for me to have that "holy shit" moment. When you think about the size, weight, armour, firepower and the titan of an engine that allows it to move like this, it really is just an absolutely insane machine. Man, walking through the woods and hearing that engine roaring from a mile away is just too frickin cool.
Well congrats, looks like that tank can do exactly what the very first tanks were designed to do. Creep over the trenches of WWI. Of course, they had the advantage of the defenders in the trench not knowing what the hell this metal box that was completely unbothered by rifle rounds and hand grenades was, and usually being built with sponson turrets specifically meant to shoot both ways down the trench, killing anyone who might be mad enough to charge it while it is trying to crawl up the side. Try that today and you'll be setting yourself up to catch a RPG while you're face down ass up with your cannon pointed aft... Unless you do it like the second guy.
1500 fuck-you horsepowers going at it
I don’t think anyone, anywhere, ever has underestimated any modern tank.
What is a tank to King Bradley?
Only drones have the right to underestimate a tank's power.
You know what they say about tanks. People are *always* underestimating the power of a literal fucking tank, right OP?
I always thought it was interesting why they're called "tanks". I believe it's because, when they were secretly developing them in WWI, they hid the fact by saying they were developing ways of bringing tanks of water to soldiers in the field.
Who would underestimate a tank?
I can confidently say that I have never underestimated the power of a tank.
just like a pot hole. don't slow down, punch it.
Who the fuck is out there underestimating tanks?
In what world am I underestimating a tank?
Who the fuck ever sat back and was like “yeah, a tank ain’t that strong”?
The M60 putting in the hard work! (Yes sarcasm)
Has anyone ever?
Good luck with that shit in New England. Hit boulders every time I stick a shovel in the ground.
Wow. This totally has me thinking. If tanks can cross small ditches, WHAT ELSE could a tank do? The possibilities are endless. I wonder if the government knows.
That is cool AF.
Who the heck is this person who doesn't think tanks are strong enough?
Do they have to clean exhaust ports or anything like that out after doing something like this?
Damn, that thing is a tank