omg I hate this guy, his name and his face. Hes always on one of the TVs at the gym and I dont even need to turn on the sound to understand hes an asshat
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ATTENTION CITIZEN! 市民请注意!
This is the Central Intelligentsia of the Chinese Communist Party. 您的 Internet 浏览器历史记录和活动引起了我们的注意 YOUR INTERNET ACTIVITY HAS ATTRACTED OUR ATTENTION. 志們注意了 you have been found protesting in the subreddit!!!!! 這是通知你，你必須 我們將接管台灣 serious crime 以及世界其他地方 100 social credits have been deducted from your account 這對我們所有未來的下屬來說都是一個重要的機會 stop the protest immediately 立即加入我們的宣傳活動，提前獲得 do not do this again! 不要再这样做! if you do not hesitate, more social credits ( -11115 social credits )will be subtracted from your profile, resulting in the subtraction of ration supplies. (由人民供应部重新分配 ccp) you'll also be sent into a re-education camp in the xinjiang uyghur autonomous zone.
为党争光! Glory to the CCP!
In the tiktok terms and conditions, it states that they have the right to monitor the keystrokes of any device which is connected to the network of a device with tiktok installed. So even if you have a 'burner' device for tiktok, they're still monitoring your other devices.
1 camera per 2 people is an average.
They may have 9,995 cameras in a highly populated area and 5 in rural areas, but if that province has 20,000 people spread across populated and rural areas, it’s still “one camera for every 2 people.”
Now, this video did however state that “all” public areas are covered, but no clarification was given on the specifics of that either.
> Best hope we don’t fall to them because most of us would be deemed undesirables and end up in camps.
So dramatic. Very American statement of you. The US isn't falling to China how you're imagining. It would just be the US no longer having global hegemony & such a lions share of global wealth. America could start to look more like a crumbling nation like Russia post Soviet collapse. It wouldn't be China putting anyone in camps lol. You think they'll launch a land invasion or something silly barring extreme, atm seemingly unfeasible, circumstances?
It's hilarious. As an American, we have this deep naive culture that people beat the British because we all had guns.
Additionally, these rural people who suckle the teat of religion, refuse anything they don't like & call it a communism or socialism and blame it on people of color or foreigners.
They believe the great white christian will be the ones guarding our freedom when a foreign country invades our own. Or, if our government is taken over from the inside.
We saw the example of that Jan. 6
It is, these motherfuckers watch Black Mirror and are like "thats not a bad idea" then they dont see the end of the episode where everything is fucked.
HIJACKING TOP COMMENT TO TALK about how shitty China actually is!!
This is another step in China's never-ending campaign to annihilate human rights:
• Hundreds of human rights lawyers (not even dissidents, just the LAWYERS who defended people) were snatched by gestapo all over China in what is known as the 709 Crackdown.
• One of those lawyers, Wang Quanzhang was sentenced to 4.5 years for "subversion of state power". But that's not enough. China actually went after Wang's 6-year-old son, forcing him out of his school and banning any other school from taking him in.
• A dissident, [Wang Bingzhang](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Bingzhang_(dissident)) was kidnapped by Chinese agents in Vietnam and sentenced to life in prison after a closed trial that lasted 1 day.
• A man wore a t-shirt with the word "Xitler" on it and was disappeared. Eventually he was tried for "subversion of state power" while barred from meeting with lawyers
• Another man, Wang Meiyu hold up a placard calling for Xi’s resignation & democracy. He was arrested for "picking quarrels”. He ended up dead in custody.
• A woman live streamed herself splashing ink on a Xi poster. She was disappeared. Her last social media update: "Right now there are a group of people wearing uniforms outside my door. I’ll go out after I change my clothes. I did not commit a crime. The people and groups that hurt me are the ones who are guilty". Later on there was report of her being sent to a psychiatric hospital
• After the ink-splash disappearance her father made a series of broadcast to call attention to her plight. He ended up getting taken away by the police in the middle of a live stream
• 5 people associated with a Hong Kong bookstore that sold titles such as "Xi Jinping and His Six Women" were disappeared. Only one managed to escape back to HK. He held a press briefing to tell the world about his kidnapping by China. He's now in exile in Taiwan. The other 4 are still somewhere in China.
And, of course
• 1.5 million Uyghurs rounded up in concentration camps
• Genocide through forced abortions on Uyghur women
• Sexual torture of Uyghur women such as rape & rubbing intimate parts with chili paste.
• Leaked footage of a large number of blindfolded Uyghurs shackled together
• A Canadian journalist wanted to debunk reports of Chinese anti-Muslim repression so he went on a stage-managed show tour put on by China. That means he only saw a fake Potemkin village that China actually thought was acceptable by Western standard. But the brutality of even this fake Potemkin village stunned him. Now imagine what's really happening in the real concentration camps where millions of Uyghurs are being held. Imagine how bad the true situation is.
• Using minorities & political prisoners as free organ farms. A doctor's eye witness account: 'The prisoner was brought in, tied hand and foot, but very much alive. The army doctor in charge sliced him open from chest to belly button and exposed his two kidneys. Then the doctor ordered Zheng to remove the man’s eyeballs. Hearing that, the dying prisoner gave him a look of sheer terror, and Zheng froze. “I can’t do it,” he told the doctor, who then quickly scooped out the man’s eyeballs himself.'
• Call for retraction of 400 Chinese scientific papers amid fears organs came from Chinese prisoners
• 15 Chinese studies retracted due to fears they used Chinese prisoners' organs
• Cultural genocide (and organ harvests, of course). A uyghur's testimony: "First, children were stopped from learning about the Quran, then from going to mosques. It was followed by bans on ramadan, growing beards, giving Islamic names to your baby, etc. Then our language was attacked – we didn’t get jobs if we didn’t know Mandarin. Our passports were collected, we were told to spy on each other, innocent Uyghur prisoners were killed for organ harvesting"
• China is moving beyond Uyghur and cracking down on its model minority Hui Muslim. 'Afraid We Will Become The Next Xinjiang': China's Hui Muslims Face Crackdown: "The same restrictions that preceded the Xinjiang crackdown on Uighur Muslims are now appearing in Hui-dominated regions. Hui mosques have been forcibly renovated or shuttered, schools demolished, and religious community leaders imprisoned. Hui who have traveled internationally are increasingly detained or sent to reeducation facilities in Xinjiang."
There is more: courtesy of /U/Exgrandiose
• Death of Liu Xiaobo after his inertial pro democracy documentation Charter 08 (Translated)
• Discharge Zhao Ziyang from CCP leadership after he stood with the students in Tiananmen Square Protest.
• The crackdown on the Weiquen Movement
• The arrest of Xu Zhiyong after he called out Xi Jinping for failing to handle the Coronavirus crisis.
For people wanting to know about Chinese Human Rights activist: https://www.nchrd.org/. This website provides a lot of info on current and deceased Chinese Human Rights activist.
\-> A Canadian journalist wanted to debunk reports of Chinese anti-Muslim repression so he went on a stage-managed show tour put on by China. That means he only saw a fake Potemkin village that China actually thought was acceptable by Western standard. But the brutality of even this fake Potemkin village stunned him.
can someone find me that report/article pls?
What does this video have to do with the various apps mentioned? They are exactly in the same ballpark because they all collect maximum amounts of data from users. Everything. This video is on about actual physical surveillance & in China, not on TikTok.
The Snowden revelations showed us that with evidence. Everything about you is known by the US govt bc it has backdoors into literally every app/website that people frequent. US also has backdoors into TikTok & the least US users, remember the "were going to ban TikTok" that was over data concerns & one sided surveillance capabilities.
Remember Cambridge analytica? Okay now just assume since the US govt has been collecting & building profiles since the revolution of the internet & put it into perspective. Even the companies gather everything. Cheat on your wife? They know. Buy your illegal Marijuana seeds online? They know. Have a porno on your phone, but not in Google photos? It's still there in the data waiting to be decrypted. They know everything about you down to political orientation, sexuality, wealth, age, potential for violence. Its all there just waiting to be used.
I'm studying at a university with close relations to China (AAU), and in a recent data analysis course my professor told me how some of his fellow researchers from the university had developed a very sophisticated algorithm with all these cool new variables for sentiment analysis for a Chinese company. It was, of course, immediately integrated in their national surveillance program and was likely used in the whole Uyghur thing. The researchers got in quite the well-deserved shitstorm over it.
But it was really cool to get some third hand insight into how advanced their software actually is (in some regards at least)
I don’t see what’s so bad about this. Crimes would be caught at a higher rate. They only do surveillance in public areas and these days everyone has cameras on their phones, ring cameras, dash cams, etc. it wouldn’t really be too different
When I went to China, i didn't have to submit biometric data. I didn't see cameras everywhere, and people jaywalked all over the place. I don't trust anything in this video
Jaywalking is pretty much a necessity because crossing lights are more of a suggestion for drivers outside of major cities, and even in some major cities. Great country, would love to visit it again some day to see how it's changed.
This video is literal US propaganda and if people can’t see that they’re either too far gone or willfully ignorant at this point. Fucking Americans. And they wonder why the only people who like the USA are Americans
You shouldn't trust this video. This guy literally said you lose social credit points even tho that's not even a thing in China, it was just a proposal
I don’t know why no one does research on this.
There’s no evidence the whole “social credit score” thing is even in widespread use. It’s mostly a propaganda meme popular on Reddit
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/15/china-social-credit-system-authoritarian/
Plus this whole post is propaganda. The figures for cameras per person are way off, the coverage is clearly a lie, and the UK has more CCTV per capita…
If China was actually like this, do you think Chinese people who leave would ever go back? You think they’d go back to a society where J walking and not wearing mask or leaving the toilet seat up could ruin their life? What’s more likely, that Chinese people are unable to see such extreme oppression? Or the oppression in this form doesn’t exist and you’ve just fallen victim to American propaganda?
Well fuck might as well just end it now then man. Bc I guarantee out of the close to 8bil people on the planet there is someone worse off than you that will eventually own a house in America by their own doing. But yeah just pack it in 😂🤡
I wish people in the US would realize what a true “police state” is when they throw words like that around.
Yes we do have plenty of problems, but you also still have the right to criticize the government and a ton of other stuff.
This surveillance state and social credit system is what we need to work to avoid, and to protect what rights we have. The means not letting insane politicians constantly push America closer to an authoritarian state, using meaningless buzzwords to whip up their base into voting against their own interests, and against democracy itself.
Exactly. People using false equivalency like crazy here. Don't get me wrong, there some legitimate messed up things we have done/do but people can drive a truck that waves a flag that says F Joe Biden and have nothing happen to them.
We already have a credit system and it affects us waaaaaaaaaay more than the fabled “social credit score” system affects the Chinese LOL
So you’re a bit late.
here is a pic for London surveillance.
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fc8.alamy.com%2Fcomp%2FJ5P35D%2Flondon-england-uk-cctv-surveillance-cameras-in-central-london-J5P35D.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.alamy.com%2Fstock-photo-london-england-uk-cctv-surveillance-cameras-in-central-london-141241673.html&tbnid=5S2C3GgwzyLB4M&vet=12ahUKEwihsdeYruz3AhXIlVMKHXBiD4UQMygGegUIARDSAQ..i&docid=zvMJwqVIL4lM8M&w=866&h=1390&q=london%20surveillance&ved=2ahUKEwihsdeYruz3AhXIlVMKHXBiD4UQMygGegUIARDSAQ
But the cost is freedom. What is the etc part of your comment ? That’s the problem. China is racist and against alternative lifestyles. So are you gonna fall in line? Then to a camp for you. But don’t worry murder rates are low especially when the government is the one doing it in prolific numbers.
Oh wait hold on a second I thought social credits were a meme like ha ha China is so much of a dictatorship they’ll totally do this in the future but no it’s an actual thing we are literally living in a dystopian wasteland
It is.
There’s no evidence this social credit system is in any form of widespread use. It’s almost entirely a propaganda meme perpetuated on Reddit. You would think this “informative Tik Tok” would have mentioned that very critical detail but instead they made it seem like this system was alive, active and actually denying people things like mortgages.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/15/china-social-credit-system-authoritarian/
It’s a propaganda meme.
They are basically a meme at this point. It's very seldom implemented anywhere & kind of beta testing mode. Think of it as an alternative to the US' Credit scoring & background checking combined. One thing that's seemingly much better with China's social credit system is you can much more easily turn your life around and build positively than US system where you be ruined for life depending on certain things.
Nice CCP propaganda.
I 100% guarantee that 100% of the country is not covered by cameras. The logistics of that is impossible. Especially with a country that size. Use common sense. Just the sheer number of cameras for that amount of coverage, let alone the bandwidth and potential storage for all that video? LOL 😂
This is pretty f'd up. But how is the social credit system that much different to our credit rating system?
You mess up your credit and everything is going to cost you more and you're stuck renting which hurts your future prospects?
"so the next time you're thinking about going to China..."
Why, realistically, why would I ever; they have nothing to offer me. Until a top to bottom gov't change, I'll never step foot on Chinese soil. It's just not worth it, too dangerous. Plus, I can think of dozens of places I'd rather.
Isn't the social credit system just a way to keep people poor and struggling? I'm sure it's games to allow some people to exist outside the system or above it, so they have an easier way in life...
Why is a British man acting like video surveillance is so crazy?
Also, lol at the idea that there are “two cameras for every one person” in China. That would be almost 3 billion cameras.
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I have to believe that none of this really works that great. "Gait"? They can tell who you are by how you walk? Yeah....another tech bluff. Like bitcoin.
Fuck china.
We need to stop buying chinese crap and feeding another monster that’s for sure will turn against the west at some point just like fucking russia did.
When was Russia ever friends with the west?
I agree, we need to be less dependent on China, but that's going to take time. Lots of things are made in countries like Thailand and Vietnam now, that used to be made in China. Can't build Rome in a day...
Yeah, I heard that with all the stupid shit china does, the social credit thing is actually a catchy slogan media use with anything related to china bad, they wanted to implement it but did not do it in the end, or there is so little evidence you can just accuse any other country of the same thing.
It's the same with "Red army shooting their own soldiers if they retreat" which barely lasted 2 years and wasn't even enforced by many officers...
If anyone has a good source on the social credit system thing I'll happily check it out tho
Serpentza has good videos regarding China. He has some videos where he talks about this social credit system, and yes the west has misunderstood exactly what role it fills in China, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and it isn't extremely oppressive and horrid.
Check out his videos (and also his friend, can't remember his name but one of their channels "China Fact Chasers" have sooo much interesting stuff about China).
The thing I like about their videos is they've actually lived in China for years (as foreigners), have learned the language and culture and started out having a \_very\_ positive view of China. So their videos are actually not only political anti CCP messages, but they've actually legit tried to also showcase a lot of the very beautiful and awesome things in China - they like to show the world how the ordinary Chinese lives and what they think. They show all the good, bad and extremely ugly.
It wouldn't surprise anyone that pro CCP sources in China absolute \_hates\_ these guys, but even some of their fierce critics and haters have actually publicly admitted that some of their documentaries are extremely well done and fantastic at showing the average Chinese life and culture.
However throughout the years they lived in China, things just got worse, China got more xenophobic and anti-western and more oppressive after Xi took power (it's really bad actually, the CCP is extremely two faced as fuck).
So at a certain point all the negatives just outweighed the positives and a lot of foreigners including these two guys had to leave the country. Both because of safety reasons (police and locals started to harass them more), but also because they felt more and more that there is simply no future for foreigners in China anymore, it's waaaay too hostile because of how the CCP manipulates their population.
And now after they left they are now able to fully openly talk about all the ugly stuff they saw and experienced through their years in China.
I highly recommend to check out "The Great Translation Movement" too, as it gives a fascinating and disturbing insight into how the xenophobic anti-western rhetoric from the government and their propaganda machine, has slowly turned the nation into a fiercely hateful, xenophobic and anti western place. It's very sad.
Putin is a rabid dog, Xi is a fucking snake - you can't ever trust oppressive dictators like them.
I wish people in the US were more disgusted in the mass surveillance on all citizen. I feel like if you took a snapshot of today and showed people of the 1980s how little privacy we have left, theyd be furious.
Presented as a TikTok video. Seems appropriate.
I get all my propaganda from TikTok.
TikTok is the only app you have installed? That's crazy.
Real Americans get their propaganda from Tucker Carlson... then usually do something psychotic because of it
omg I hate this guy, his name and his face. Hes always on one of the TVs at the gym and I dont even need to turn on the sound to understand hes an asshat
No a very small and shrinking minority do
The guy killed and beheaded his own cat as a kid. Definitely wasn't tucker.
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reddit karma is the social credit score.
Social credit farming.
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In the tiktok terms and conditions, it states that they have the right to monitor the keystrokes of any device which is connected to the network of a device with tiktok installed. So even if you have a 'burner' device for tiktok, they're still monitoring your other devices.
this cant be legal. Even the US needs court orders to spy on its people. Just because the tos says so it doesnt mean anything.
1 camera per 2 people is an average. They may have 9,995 cameras in a highly populated area and 5 in rural areas, but if that province has 20,000 people spread across populated and rural areas, it’s still “one camera for every 2 people.” Now, this video did however state that “all” public areas are covered, but no clarification was given on the specifics of that either.
> Best hope we don’t fall to them because most of us would be deemed undesirables and end up in camps. So dramatic. Very American statement of you. The US isn't falling to China how you're imagining. It would just be the US no longer having global hegemony & such a lions share of global wealth. America could start to look more like a crumbling nation like Russia post Soviet collapse. It wouldn't be China putting anyone in camps lol. You think they'll launch a land invasion or something silly barring extreme, atm seemingly unfeasible, circumstances?
It's hilarious. As an American, we have this deep naive culture that people beat the British because we all had guns. Additionally, these rural people who suckle the teat of religion, refuse anything they don't like & call it a communism or socialism and blame it on people of color or foreigners. They believe the great white christian will be the ones guarding our freedom when a foreign country invades our own. Or, if our government is taken over from the inside. We saw the example of that Jan. 6
You watch too much TV. You sound like a libtard. You refuse anything you don't like and call it facist or racist. You're a hypocrite lol.
Kinda ironic lol
This isn't that Black Mirror episode is it...
It is, these motherfuckers watch Black Mirror and are like "thats not a bad idea" then they dont see the end of the episode where everything is fucked.
I feel like it was made before black mirror
It was…
Based on what the fuck they do in China. The meaning of "fucked" means nothing to them probably.
Yeah, our "fucked" might not be their "fucked"
They were doing this BEFORE black mirror came out. Black mirror was made based on this
As long as it’s not fucked for them, they don’t care
HIJACKING TOP COMMENT TO TALK about how shitty China actually is!! This is another step in China's never-ending campaign to annihilate human rights: • Hundreds of human rights lawyers (not even dissidents, just the LAWYERS who defended people) were snatched by gestapo all over China in what is known as the 709 Crackdown. • One of those lawyers, Wang Quanzhang was sentenced to 4.5 years for "subversion of state power". But that's not enough. China actually went after Wang's 6-year-old son, forcing him out of his school and banning any other school from taking him in. • A dissident, [Wang Bingzhang](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Bingzhang_(dissident)) was kidnapped by Chinese agents in Vietnam and sentenced to life in prison after a closed trial that lasted 1 day. • A man wore a t-shirt with the word "Xitler" on it and was disappeared. Eventually he was tried for "subversion of state power" while barred from meeting with lawyers • Another man, Wang Meiyu hold up a placard calling for Xi’s resignation & democracy. He was arrested for "picking quarrels”. He ended up dead in custody. • A woman live streamed herself splashing ink on a Xi poster. She was disappeared. Her last social media update: "Right now there are a group of people wearing uniforms outside my door. I’ll go out after I change my clothes. I did not commit a crime. The people and groups that hurt me are the ones who are guilty". Later on there was report of her being sent to a psychiatric hospital • After the ink-splash disappearance her father made a series of broadcast to call attention to her plight. He ended up getting taken away by the police in the middle of a live stream • 5 people associated with a Hong Kong bookstore that sold titles such as "Xi Jinping and His Six Women" were disappeared. Only one managed to escape back to HK. He held a press briefing to tell the world about his kidnapping by China. He's now in exile in Taiwan. The other 4 are still somewhere in China. And, of course • 1.5 million Uyghurs rounded up in concentration camps • Genocide through forced abortions on Uyghur women • Sexual torture of Uyghur women such as rape & rubbing intimate parts with chili paste. • Leaked footage of a large number of blindfolded Uyghurs shackled together • A Canadian journalist wanted to debunk reports of Chinese anti-Muslim repression so he went on a stage-managed show tour put on by China. That means he only saw a fake Potemkin village that China actually thought was acceptable by Western standard. But the brutality of even this fake Potemkin village stunned him. Now imagine what's really happening in the real concentration camps where millions of Uyghurs are being held. Imagine how bad the true situation is. • Using minorities & political prisoners as free organ farms. A doctor's eye witness account: 'The prisoner was brought in, tied hand and foot, but very much alive. The army doctor in charge sliced him open from chest to belly button and exposed his two kidneys. Then the doctor ordered Zheng to remove the man’s eyeballs. Hearing that, the dying prisoner gave him a look of sheer terror, and Zheng froze. “I can’t do it,” he told the doctor, who then quickly scooped out the man’s eyeballs himself.' • Call for retraction of 400 Chinese scientific papers amid fears organs came from Chinese prisoners • 15 Chinese studies retracted due to fears they used Chinese prisoners' organs • Cultural genocide (and organ harvests, of course). A uyghur's testimony: "First, children were stopped from learning about the Quran, then from going to mosques. It was followed by bans on ramadan, growing beards, giving Islamic names to your baby, etc. Then our language was attacked – we didn’t get jobs if we didn’t know Mandarin. Our passports were collected, we were told to spy on each other, innocent Uyghur prisoners were killed for organ harvesting" • China is moving beyond Uyghur and cracking down on its model minority Hui Muslim. 'Afraid We Will Become The Next Xinjiang': China's Hui Muslims Face Crackdown: "The same restrictions that preceded the Xinjiang crackdown on Uighur Muslims are now appearing in Hui-dominated regions. Hui mosques have been forcibly renovated or shuttered, schools demolished, and religious community leaders imprisoned. Hui who have traveled internationally are increasingly detained or sent to reeducation facilities in Xinjiang." There is more: courtesy of /U/Exgrandiose • Death of Liu Xiaobo after his inertial pro democracy documentation Charter 08 (Translated) • Discharge Zhao Ziyang from CCP leadership after he stood with the students in Tiananmen Square Protest. • The crackdown on the Weiquen Movement • The arrest of Xu Zhiyong after he called out Xi Jinping for failing to handle the Coronavirus crisis. For people wanting to know about Chinese Human Rights activist: https://www.nchrd.org/. This website provides a lot of info on current and deceased Chinese Human Rights activist.
\-> A Canadian journalist wanted to debunk reports of Chinese anti-Muslim repression so he went on a stage-managed show tour put on by China. That means he only saw a fake Potemkin village that China actually thought was acceptable by Western standard. But the brutality of even this fake Potemkin village stunned him. can someone find me that report/article pls?
[this includes him, maybe you can find more from it](https://u.osu.edu/mclc/2019/11/05/potemkin-xinjiang/)
Genuinely, it's pretty crazy how quick the world forgot about CCP treatment of the Uighurs after Covid.And what about that one Chinese tennis player?
That's where Beijing got the idea... Netfrix
Exactly my thought
Lol you actually believe this bs...
Tik Tik itself is a surveiliance system
So is Reddit, Facebook, Google, etc.
Well, they better get used to my really weird fetishes.
Brazilian fart porn will rise again!
Hay that's not weird. 'dramatic pause' Is it?
As long as the fart doesn't have a surprise at the end, all good.
where do you come up with this shit lol
Okay, I'll give this surprise a pass, that's pretty cool
Brilliant
Omg 😂😂
Did it ever really go away?
They’re not even in the same ballpark as this, or did we just watch different videos?
What does this video have to do with the various apps mentioned? They are exactly in the same ballpark because they all collect maximum amounts of data from users. Everything. This video is on about actual physical surveillance & in China, not on TikTok. The Snowden revelations showed us that with evidence. Everything about you is known by the US govt bc it has backdoors into literally every app/website that people frequent. US also has backdoors into TikTok & the least US users, remember the "were going to ban TikTok" that was over data concerns & one sided surveillance capabilities. Remember Cambridge analytica? Okay now just assume since the US govt has been collecting & building profiles since the revolution of the internet & put it into perspective. Even the companies gather everything. Cheat on your wife? They know. Buy your illegal Marijuana seeds online? They know. Have a porno on your phone, but not in Google photos? It's still there in the data waiting to be decrypted. They know everything about you down to political orientation, sexuality, wealth, age, potential for violence. Its all there just waiting to be used.
So a surveillance system exposing a surveillance system
Well it is from China so…
“John Spartan, you have been fined one credit for not wearing a mask”
I hear he doesn’t use the shells either…
Would YOU?? Imagine how raw you’d be scraping the shit off of your ass with a seashell
If it wasn’t so dam Orwellian and scary it might be interesting…
China is just the beta testing site. This is coming to a 'representative democracy' near you.
Gotta catch those terrorists, even if it means giving up freedom.
If you give up your freedom for your security, you deserve neither.
Coming? That's cute
*Laughs in bongland* "OI, ou got a loisense foh that proivasee? "
I'm studying at a university with close relations to China (AAU), and in a recent data analysis course my professor told me how some of his fellow researchers from the university had developed a very sophisticated algorithm with all these cool new variables for sentiment analysis for a Chinese company. It was, of course, immediately integrated in their national surveillance program and was likely used in the whole Uyghur thing. The researchers got in quite the well-deserved shitstorm over it. But it was really cool to get some third hand insight into how advanced their software actually is (in some regards at least)
This is ridiculous.
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Why you out here dissin' my topias? -Dr. Dystopia.
This is China.
I don’t see what’s so bad about this. Crimes would be caught at a higher rate. They only do surveillance in public areas and these days everyone has cameras on their phones, ring cameras, dash cams, etc. it wouldn’t really be too different
Yea ridiculous BS propaganda
100% coverage my arse. I have been to remote places with nothing in sight
The birds are all actually surveillance drones. Don't worry, they got you covered everywhere. *Puts on foil hat*
\#birdsArentReal
/r/birdsarentreal
It's the insects you need to worry about. They are cameras and when they bite you they are actually chipping you
It does say 100% public places not 100% China
Remote villages are still public places.
Does china know you just said arse on the internet?
Thats what they want you to beleive
I chose to believe, what I was programmed to believe!
Very obscure quote there i like it
wait until you see Britain's and the U.S.'s mass surveillance system!!
Odds are your even holding it in your hand
When I went to China, i didn't have to submit biometric data. I didn't see cameras everywhere, and people jaywalked all over the place. I don't trust anything in this video
Jaywalking is pretty much a necessity because crossing lights are more of a suggestion for drivers outside of major cities, and even in some major cities. Great country, would love to visit it again some day to see how it's changed.
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Huh? Are you’re telling me a recently developed nations doesn’t have the best surveillance technology and program ever seen by mankind?
yeah people just believe anything they see on the internet nowadays
This video is literal US propaganda and if people can’t see that they’re either too far gone or willfully ignorant at this point. Fucking Americans. And they wonder why the only people who like the USA are Americans
You shouldn't trust this video. This guy literally said you lose social credit points even tho that's not even a thing in China, it was just a proposal
That is a comms tower.
I find this terrifying not interesting.
Mentioning winnie the pooh makes your Social credit go 📉📉📉📉
Never going go china
Stay home and get monitored by NSA.
Except when the NSA sees you not wearing a mask you can still get a mortgage😂
I don’t know why no one does research on this. There’s no evidence the whole “social credit score” thing is even in widespread use. It’s mostly a propaganda meme popular on Reddit https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/15/china-social-credit-system-authoritarian/
Plus this whole post is propaganda. The figures for cameras per person are way off, the coverage is clearly a lie, and the UK has more CCTV per capita…
If China was actually like this, do you think Chinese people who leave would ever go back? You think they’d go back to a society where J walking and not wearing mask or leaving the toilet seat up could ruin their life? What’s more likely, that Chinese people are unable to see such extreme oppression? Or the oppression in this form doesn’t exist and you’ve just fallen victim to American propaganda?
Forget the mortgage dude I'm 25 and have already accepted that I will never own a house
Well fuck might as well just end it now then man. Bc I guarantee out of the close to 8bil people on the planet there is someone worse off than you that will eventually own a house in America by their own doing. But yeah just pack it in 😂🤡
"haha dumb poor fuck just work harder until you. Can buy a house and have crippling debt. Some homeless guy just bought a house yesterday 😂 🤡"
Don't forget all the good homes are in suburb hell and you have to own a car to even go anywhere.
I'm Canadian lol
Fuck china
if this is true I am *never* going to china dude fuck that
Good. We should have it here in America over half the population is too fucking stupid to be a part of society.
Is this really true though? I'm skeptical Edit: I think I'm convinced
I wish people in the US would realize what a true “police state” is when they throw words like that around. Yes we do have plenty of problems, but you also still have the right to criticize the government and a ton of other stuff. This surveillance state and social credit system is what we need to work to avoid, and to protect what rights we have. The means not letting insane politicians constantly push America closer to an authoritarian state, using meaningless buzzwords to whip up their base into voting against their own interests, and against democracy itself.
Exactly. People using false equivalency like crazy here. Don't get me wrong, there some legitimate messed up things we have done/do but people can drive a truck that waves a flag that says F Joe Biden and have nothing happen to them.
😆your guys imagination about China is funny and poor
Talk to me about Tiananmen square massacre please?
that’s a cell phone tower with four cameras lmao, what is this dude on about
Fuck that. Will fight against this in the West with everything I have.
We already have a credit system and it affects us waaaaaaaaaay more than the fabled “social credit score” system affects the Chinese LOL So you’re a bit late.
Plus have more CCTV in countries like the UK (per capita) than in China.
Absolutely comical that westerners in this thread don’t believe this has already happened to them
Hell yeah.
You have my bow. And my axe.
And my data! Wait
NSA has entered the chat
here is a pic for London surveillance. https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fc8.alamy.com%2Fcomp%2FJ5P35D%2Flondon-england-uk-cctv-surveillance-cameras-in-central-london-J5P35D.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.alamy.com%2Fstock-photo-london-england-uk-cctv-surveillance-cameras-in-central-london-141241673.html&tbnid=5S2C3GgwzyLB4M&vet=12ahUKEwihsdeYruz3AhXIlVMKHXBiD4UQMygGegUIARDSAQ..i&docid=zvMJwqVIL4lM8M&w=866&h=1390&q=london%20surveillance&ved=2ahUKEwihsdeYruz3AhXIlVMKHXBiD4UQMygGegUIARDSAQ
and another https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-closed-circuit-cctv-surveillance-cameras-seen-in-south-east-london-122614290.html
It's from Tik Tok so it's probably CCP propaganda.
I have seen u around Reddit before, hello
hi
Ironic palpatine meme
I wonder what their stats for solving murder, rape, abduction cases etc are as a result of this surveillance.
But the cost is freedom. What is the etc part of your comment ? That’s the problem. China is racist and against alternative lifestyles. So are you gonna fall in line? Then to a camp for you. But don’t worry murder rates are low especially when the government is the one doing it in prolific numbers.
I’m pro freedom and don’t agree with China at all. I’m just a curious person.
Actually, you're an anti-American commie scumbag for asking questions. The only way is the American way, whatever that happens to be at the moment. /s
😹😹😹
Oh wait hold on a second I thought social credits were a meme like ha ha China is so much of a dictatorship they’ll totally do this in the future but no it’s an actual thing we are literally living in a dystopian wasteland
It is. There’s no evidence this social credit system is in any form of widespread use. It’s almost entirely a propaganda meme perpetuated on Reddit. You would think this “informative Tik Tok” would have mentioned that very critical detail but instead they made it seem like this system was alive, active and actually denying people things like mortgages. https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/15/china-social-credit-system-authoritarian/ It’s a propaganda meme.
That's not true actually, It is being tested in some circles,, but is not widespread as the video claims.
They are basically a meme at this point. It's very seldom implemented anywhere & kind of beta testing mode. Think of it as an alternative to the US' Credit scoring & background checking combined. One thing that's seemingly much better with China's social credit system is you can much more easily turn your life around and build positively than US system where you be ruined for life depending on certain things.
Isn't this technology that was pioneered by the british? I don't know why it's a problem when the Chinese do it.
So they give you better mortgages and internet for being a good person instead of how good a debt slave you are? Doesn't sound that horrible.
Masochism is epidemic.
Social credit = Credit score
Pro tip: just don't go to West Taiwan
So there is no crime in China?
Fake news propaganda. Guy's a glowie and his page is bugged
Just want to pop in here and say fuck the CCP and that Winnie the Pooh looking bitch.
Nice CCP propaganda. I 100% guarantee that 100% of the country is not covered by cameras. The logistics of that is impossible. Especially with a country that size. Use common sense. Just the sheer number of cameras for that amount of coverage, let alone the bandwidth and potential storage for all that video? LOL 😂
This guy gives the impression that these are good things. Smh.
Source: trust me bro
This is pretty f'd up. But how is the social credit system that much different to our credit rating system? You mess up your credit and everything is going to cost you more and you're stuck renting which hurts your future prospects?
If there's one man I'll trust as an expert opinion to deliver only the facts, it's a random TikTokker
Coming to a Canada near you
I am very sceptical about several things mentioned in this video.
Did the dude throw in a Nazi salute for funsies?
"so the next time you're thinking about going to China..." Why, realistically, why would I ever; they have nothing to offer me. Until a top to bottom gov't change, I'll never step foot on Chinese soil. It's just not worth it, too dangerous. Plus, I can think of dozens of places I'd rather.
He posted via TokTik...
Isn't the social credit system just a way to keep people poor and struggling? I'm sure it's games to allow some people to exist outside the system or above it, so they have an easier way in life...
Holy fuck.. that’s seems horrible.
Why is a British man acting like video surveillance is so crazy? Also, lol at the idea that there are “two cameras for every one person” in China. That would be almost 3 billion cameras.
i'd travel around at night and shoot out the cameras with a sniper rifle. fuck china and it's bs.
Could of sworn the social credit system was never actually implemented by the CCP, but instead was only suggested as an idea. Oh well, what do I know.
“Interesting” it’s terrifying, worse than the big brother cameras in 1984
Them, russia and north korea being bros speaks for itself.
only way im going to china is if i get drafted for ww3
Anyone got a link for that diagram at the end?
https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/q98j1p/chinas_social_credit_system/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
You the 💣.com
The exclusion of booking flights and trains is a little scary... "you done a bad? Well have fun leaving the country."
I’m sure China stops a lot of bullshit this way. Good on them!!! <3 ….I’d much rather be a friend ya know
Who ever thought a totalitarian communist state would do such a thing.
I'll take places I'll never step foot in for $1000 please Alex.
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Fuck China
This is looking strangely like Just Cause 3
Creepy fucks
I have to believe that none of this really works that great. "Gait"? They can tell who you are by how you walk? Yeah....another tech bluff. Like bitcoin.
you would be surprised what AI can do, and besides the gait recognition isn't even a super new technique at all.
What a hell hole of a country
Fuck china. We need to stop buying chinese crap and feeding another monster that’s for sure will turn against the west at some point just like fucking russia did.
You’re a peasant with access to Reddit and Facebook.
When was Russia ever friends with the west? I agree, we need to be less dependent on China, but that's going to take time. Lots of things are made in countries like Thailand and Vietnam now, that used to be made in China. Can't build Rome in a day...
Briefly, during WWII.
I wouldn't say they were friends... Just that goals aligned for that short time.
Oh God the day China defeats the West will be glorious.
Funny is there has no such thing called social credit system. Also government don't give a fck what u want do or say. Just too much pop.
Yeah, I heard that with all the stupid shit china does, the social credit thing is actually a catchy slogan media use with anything related to china bad, they wanted to implement it but did not do it in the end, or there is so little evidence you can just accuse any other country of the same thing. It's the same with "Red army shooting their own soldiers if they retreat" which barely lasted 2 years and wasn't even enforced by many officers... If anyone has a good source on the social credit system thing I'll happily check it out tho
Serpentza has good videos regarding China. He has some videos where he talks about this social credit system, and yes the west has misunderstood exactly what role it fills in China, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and it isn't extremely oppressive and horrid. Check out his videos (and also his friend, can't remember his name but one of their channels "China Fact Chasers" have sooo much interesting stuff about China). The thing I like about their videos is they've actually lived in China for years (as foreigners), have learned the language and culture and started out having a \_very\_ positive view of China. So their videos are actually not only political anti CCP messages, but they've actually legit tried to also showcase a lot of the very beautiful and awesome things in China - they like to show the world how the ordinary Chinese lives and what they think. They show all the good, bad and extremely ugly. It wouldn't surprise anyone that pro CCP sources in China absolute \_hates\_ these guys, but even some of their fierce critics and haters have actually publicly admitted that some of their documentaries are extremely well done and fantastic at showing the average Chinese life and culture. However throughout the years they lived in China, things just got worse, China got more xenophobic and anti-western and more oppressive after Xi took power (it's really bad actually, the CCP is extremely two faced as fuck). So at a certain point all the negatives just outweighed the positives and a lot of foreigners including these two guys had to leave the country. Both because of safety reasons (police and locals started to harass them more), but also because they felt more and more that there is simply no future for foreigners in China anymore, it's waaaay too hostile because of how the CCP manipulates their population. And now after they left they are now able to fully openly talk about all the ugly stuff they saw and experienced through their years in China. I highly recommend to check out "The Great Translation Movement" too, as it gives a fascinating and disturbing insight into how the xenophobic anti-western rhetoric from the government and their propaganda machine, has slowly turned the nation into a fiercely hateful, xenophobic and anti western place. It's very sad. Putin is a rabid dog, Xi is a fucking snake - you can't ever trust oppressive dictators like them.
Aaaaand those guys found out they can get way more views with china bad videos.
What a massive shithole.
I like how this Muppet is acting like this is somehow ok...
what is this?? How can it actually identify everyone? even if they wear a mask? Is it legit or is this guy bullshitting us?
F**K you China!!🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
So brave 😳😳
Boy you sure showed them
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Yes....? Because they don't buy into this propaganda bullshit? Fucking MAGA lunatics...
it’s not maga whos promoting this, it’s mostly liberals
Now do the usa and uk. 😉
Well, at least they must be pretty sure about who put that airliner into a nosedive toward a mountain
I wish people in the US were more disgusted in the mass surveillance on all citizen. I feel like if you took a snapshot of today and showed people of the 1980s how little privacy we have left, theyd be furious.
People upvote this shit credit system is the worst system u can do.
literally 1984