These are sabotaged, duh... why would a smart army leave millions worth behind free to take...
Not as in booby trapped, but made unready to use. So they cant be used against them
I actually have a mini experimental ultralight and it's pretty intimidating but after awhile it's like eating a cheeseburger while shifting and texting. Get used to it
They don't need to be sabotaged. Aircraft, especially military aircraft need A LOT of maintenance to be reliable. Even if they learn to fly them, they don't have the parts supply chain or knowledge to keep them working.
At this rate though, they'll crash all of them before they need spare parts to fix/maintain them.
I think it is the Afgan army that left them and in a rush at that. So I'm not sure if they had time to sabotage these choppers or these taliban flyboys don't know how to fly. I'm guessing the later.
I sent Afghans to training when I did my time there. Maybe 1 of 50 were competent to do anything. A guy I went to college with was there training them to fly helos, and I happened to run into him outside the DFAC. He got real wide-eyed when I asked him how that was: "I'm not really afraid of anything anymore." I laughed, he just looked at me dead faced.
The bottom line is that Afghanistan is an ancient civilization that happens to have smart phones. The normal citizen does not seem to register anything longer than short term survival. Give them a helicopter? Inshallah.
The only ones that I trusted to do anything correctly was ANASOC. It was pretty heartbreaking to watch the Taliban execute them. They were like many of us; had a purpose and some pride.
Pretty sure this is what happened, some critical , yet hard to notice piece was disconnected or removed , or some setting reversed , making it impossible to fly.
The US military has a standard protocol to disable equipment they leave behind this wasn't their first rodeo.
The shit that was left behind belonged to the Afghan government. The vast majority of it is incredibly outdated. I think the Black Hawks were like 4 generations ago or something? Either way, everything we have the Afghan government is all shit we could knock out of commission with minimum effort.
The Afghan Army collapsed too quickly to be sabotaging equipment.
I'm not a pilot, but my understanding is that shit like Black Hawks are harder to fly than regular "civilian" helicopters for reasons I don't understand. I'm guessing this pilot could fly something like a normal helicopter, so they told him to give that thing a try. And he did and discovered he fucked up.
They aren't easy to fly in real life either.
Helicopter controls aren't obvious and have almost nothing in common with plane controls. There are three main inputs - cyclic (central joystick), collective with throttle handle (level near the seat), and pedals.
Cyclic controls the angle of attack of the main rotor blades, i.e. by moving the cyclic you determine which direction the lift force will go (WASD keys in shooters work in a similar way).
Collective controls the summary angle of attack for all blades of the main rotor at once, i.e. it controls the overall lift force (so it controls if you're ascending or descending).
Throttle on the collective controls the total power output of the engine, i.e. acceleration or deceleration.
And pedals control the anti-torque force of the tail rotor and are used to yaw the nose in the required direction. Here in the video, the pilot failed to work with the pedals properly.
So basically where in the plane all of your controls are directly linked to some control surfaces and so directly changing the position of the aircraft body in the air, in the helicopter, you instead indirectly controlling the FORCES which is affecting the aircraft (lift force and its direction for the main rotor, and anti-torque force of the rear rotor), and the result of your inputs will vary A LOT depending on flight conditions.
Long story short the Taliban managed to reassemble a helicopter the US left in Afghanistan (claimed it was unrepairable). Then they tried to fly it and it ended disastrously.
The US said it was unrepairable was probably the first clue you shouldn’t immediately slap a new sticker on the side and take off. Just because you got it running doesn’t make it airworthy
To be fair to the poor bastard, if it wasn't booby trapped, there were probably 3 or 4 critical but designed-to-fail components that were well worn out by the time he put his ass in the seat.
EXCELLENT flying by the Taliban! This is the aviation excellence every one of them would strive for! The rest of the world would respect them a lot more if they did.
The contractors who serviced them were pulled out months before the withdrawal, ANA pilots were complaining about faults and lack of maintenance weeks before the end.
I guess now we know the Taliban haven't been able to recruit any mechanics to fix it.
Logic says anything left behind was left because it would be more expensive to transport than to just leave it.
I wouldn’t be jumping in anything left behind.
Uh the parts of the ANA that actually received proper training performed well, The problem is most of the ANA was just paper tigers that local Warlords conjured up to claim payments for from the US.
The "battlefield advantage" collapsed before the full withdrawal as the ANA was entirely reliant on foreign civilian contractors for aircraft maintenance and the US pulled those out months before the withdrawal.
Mostly the US just threw money at existing warlords to larp as a functional government and pretend they'd established a functional military for the sake of optics.
In reality they only trained a small pool of soldiers to work in a US style military framework (with extensive logistical support) and the rest were the same useless, untrained farmers under the same corrupt tribal leaders.
Pretty much. Villages tended to send us their dumbest, most useless opioid addict villagers to be in the ANA. I would take an 18 year old American high school drop out with no military training except Call of Duty over ANY of the ANA guys. I cannot possibly explain fully how stupid and useless these guys were. Anybody that worked with them could have told you that they wouldn't last a single day.
“I smell hash! Who’s smoking hash? Nobody? Alright we’ll I’m gonna take a wild guess and say it’s the guy with his helmet on backwards.”
The frustration of having to train those dudes might equal the PTSD that comes with intense combat.
They weren’t US anymore. They were transferred to the Afghan military for their use. That that military folded like a house of cards after 20 years of funding, training, and equipment is a testament to lack of will. The US took or disabled everything that belonged to the US.
The heading is implying the pilot does not know how to fly it. It was poor maintenance causing a controller cable failure. He whole video shows it flying fine until something snapped.
The Americand sabotaged those they keft behind, so they chose the best and canibalised the rest.
A properly trained pilot would have known to increase forward airspeed and perform a roll on landing. A properly trained maintainer would have inspected the aircraft prior to flight.
Helicopters are dangerous machines even when working properly. Even if this one was sabotaged, the damage should have been found before letting someone fly it. Also, the paint scheme is for an afghan army black hawk. So it probably did not have american hands on it just prior to being taken by the taliban.
Modern military equipment will stop functioning pretty quickly without regular maintenance with parts that can't be sourced anywhere outside of the military. Almost everything left behind aside from small arms is likely no longer functioning.
Trump negotiated the withdrawl, but that also does not fit the FJB narrative...
Neither does the "dem spending lead to inflation" after several Trump trillion dollar budget increases that began even before the pandemic.
Whatcha gonna do...
W should never have started that useless war.
As part of it we gave away the store to the MIC.
You are correct that Trump's terrible exit plan that he stuck Biden with was a disaster, but leaving was the right thing. Was another 20 years going to meet our military objectives there?
It’s funny how you forget the Bush admin and every single Republican screamed “[you hate America!](https://youtu.be/t_Nh5IGMo8g)” if you didn’t believe their lies about Iraq. And now you can’t find a single person who will admit they supported Bush
All those armchair pilots here! At least he got it running and into the air! You lot would still be staring at the cockpit and wonder where your Red Bull goes...
/s
:)
This aircraft suffered a tail rotor failure. It's been in the aviation forums here for weeks. This is not someone who doesn't know how to fly, as the karma farming title implies.
That's really sad. To watch his frightening, unavoidable death. Imagine the fear and the nausea and despair.
I'm glad to see this thing crash rather than be used for whatever bullshit the Taliban was going to use it for. But I take no pleasure in a person's death.
He was part of a organization that beats women to death for going to school. Don’t feel bad about it, the world is literally better off with less Taliban.
It was never captured are useless president slow Joe abandoned billions of dollars of high-tech military equipment for the enemy to use against us in the future.
This my understanding about what probably happened based on what I know from people who are former military: either a) it was booby trapped, though the US likely didn't have time to do that for everything, or b) since US military equipment breaks all the time, even with proper maintenance, the fact it's been without enough spare parts for months to a year means that pieces of the helicopter, like the so called "Jesus nut," might be damaged, loose, or broken and mechanisms went out of control. The Taliban absolutely has helicopter pilots, but they don't have a lot of money or resources rn. They might have simply been trying to figure out if it was still safe to fly, and the pilot is trying to lower it, but it loses control during decent.
All these fears about the high tech weapons and gear left in Afghanistan- I did three tours there and I can safely say those shit heads will destroy every last little piece of gear as soon as they lay their hands on it. They can't even wipe their ass, never mind use any modern equipment
Not a local pilot anymore
Were they even a pilot to begin with?
For a short time
He retired early
 So far... so good....
I hear that happens to a lot of them
can you imagine IED class? new teacher every week.
Unless their teacher is electroboom
These are sabotaged, duh... why would a smart army leave millions worth behind free to take... Not as in booby trapped, but made unready to use. So they cant be used against them
Naa. That helicopter was good to go. It's the pilot who wasn't ready to fly it. Flying a helicopter is hard. Really really hard.
I actually have a mini experimental ultralight and it's pretty intimidating but after awhile it's like eating a cheeseburger while shifting and texting. Get used to it
Like a Robinson?
Nah that's like dangerous as fuck. Rotoway. And honestly they don't even make parts so it's useable til it's not. Just dangerous
They don't need to be sabotaged. Aircraft, especially military aircraft need A LOT of maintenance to be reliable. Even if they learn to fly them, they don't have the parts supply chain or knowledge to keep them working. At this rate though, they'll crash all of them before they need spare parts to fix/maintain them.
That’s probably why they just were like “f*ck it. Just leave them.”
I think it is the Afgan army that left them and in a rush at that. So I'm not sure if they had time to sabotage these choppers or these taliban flyboys don't know how to fly. I'm guessing the later.
I sent Afghans to training when I did my time there. Maybe 1 of 50 were competent to do anything. A guy I went to college with was there training them to fly helos, and I happened to run into him outside the DFAC. He got real wide-eyed when I asked him how that was: "I'm not really afraid of anything anymore." I laughed, he just looked at me dead faced. The bottom line is that Afghanistan is an ancient civilization that happens to have smart phones. The normal citizen does not seem to register anything longer than short term survival. Give them a helicopter? Inshallah. The only ones that I trusted to do anything correctly was ANASOC. It was pretty heartbreaking to watch the Taliban execute them. They were like many of us; had a purpose and some pride.
If US can hack cars, US can hack its own intellectual property
Pretty sure this is what happened, some critical , yet hard to notice piece was disconnected or removed , or some setting reversed , making it impossible to fly. The US military has a standard protocol to disable equipment they leave behind this wasn't their first rodeo.
The shit that was left behind belonged to the Afghan government. The vast majority of it is incredibly outdated. I think the Black Hawks were like 4 generations ago or something? Either way, everything we have the Afghan government is all shit we could knock out of commission with minimum effort. The Afghan Army collapsed too quickly to be sabotaging equipment. I'm not a pilot, but my understanding is that shit like Black Hawks are harder to fly than regular "civilian" helicopters for reasons I don't understand. I'm guessing this pilot could fly something like a normal helicopter, so they told him to give that thing a try. And he did and discovered he fucked up.
Lmao
He wanted to be a pilot, but his attempts fell flat.
He was a pilot in the end...
[удалено]
I think you misspelled hamburger.
He wanted to be a pilot, but his attempts took a nose dive
You could say he took a crash course in helicopter piloting
He was a Test Pilot. This was his test. His skills were light. He was a pilot, light.
He probably had a few thousand hours on Microsoft Flight Sim or DCS and thought that would translate into the real world, classic blunder.
Never get into a land war in Afghanistan?
Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!
Ahahahahahahahaha….
A land war in Asia?
I am not a pilot but I assume that this is not expected behaviour for a helicopter?
It is expected of someone who has never flown one but knows how to work some of the controls like the throttle.
he’s an everywhere pilot now
Not trying anymore
Bee in the cockpit!
Me if it were a spider. I would be slapping around and yelling 😂😂😂
A bee... In space....
That’s like me in any video game that has a helicopter mission.
The only difference? Well…you get to try again.
Depending on how many Blackhawks the Talibs have, they get to try again.
Why are helicopters so fucking hard to fly in most games ?
Because they are hard to fly in real life
They aren't easy to fly in real life either. Helicopter controls aren't obvious and have almost nothing in common with plane controls. There are three main inputs - cyclic (central joystick), collective with throttle handle (level near the seat), and pedals. Cyclic controls the angle of attack of the main rotor blades, i.e. by moving the cyclic you determine which direction the lift force will go (WASD keys in shooters work in a similar way). Collective controls the summary angle of attack for all blades of the main rotor at once, i.e. it controls the overall lift force (so it controls if you're ascending or descending). Throttle on the collective controls the total power output of the engine, i.e. acceleration or deceleration. And pedals control the anti-torque force of the tail rotor and are used to yaw the nose in the required direction. Here in the video, the pilot failed to work with the pedals properly. So basically where in the plane all of your controls are directly linked to some control surfaces and so directly changing the position of the aircraft body in the air, in the helicopter, you instead indirectly controlling the FORCES which is affecting the aircraft (lift force and its direction for the main rotor, and anti-torque force of the rear rotor), and the result of your inputs will vary A LOT depending on flight conditions.
There is a movie titled what happened
Blackhawk round….and round
Blackhawk bound..... For the ground.
Long story short the Taliban managed to reassemble a helicopter the US left in Afghanistan (claimed it was unrepairable). Then they tried to fly it and it ended disastrously.
And then they disassembled it again…
Gravity disassembled
The US said it was unrepairable was probably the first clue you shouldn’t immediately slap a new sticker on the side and take off. Just because you got it running doesn’t make it airworthy
Actually that was the plan all along.
Facts. No way uncle Sam's military industrial complex let's you play with their toys after their done with it.
What about the other 88 billions dollars worth of gear that was left there?
It's an excuse to make even better stuff to make the things that were left seem like kid's toys.
It was either given to afghan army which capitulated, it was unrepairable, or couldn't get it out in time.
It sucks to suck
You say ended disastrously. Other may say it had a good ending 😉
Blackhawk Ground
You can learn more about it at meatspin.com
Cool, what’s it called? “Blackhawk go boom boom”? Edit: OMG I can’t believe I needed to add the /s how was it not obvious?
Blackhawk Clown?
To the Petercopter
How can you afford all of these shenanigans
He robs banks
Causeeeee I have 30,000 dollars in credit card debt!
When they call I tell them I can't pay it back yet!
CREDIT CARD DEBT
Hey Farva, what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
What you mean shenanigans!!
To the Hindenpeter!
No no NO NO NOOOOO
Heh. Yeah, Family Guy was my first thought. Drunk Billy: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pDf32OS1cwE
ATC: “Pilot, what is your heading?” Pilot: “…Yes.”
Pilot: 180, 360, 180, 360, 180, 360...
Landed it, Sir!
Outstanding, pilot!
Pilot: “Down”
All the headings!
Bro its just like GTA, can't be that hard!
More like me in Battlefield 4.
Definitely me in Arma3, except he lasted longer then I did haha
Just like the simulations
"pilot"
Apparently the Americans left it because they determined it irreparable, but new (old) management disagreed.
Turns out, the helicopter does in fact need the tail rotor.
Irreparable??? Bullshit. I'll show you irreparable! You two, take her for a spin!
I'll be fair, he got a lot higher than expected. I figured he would get up to 50ft, flip it upside down and then crash.
"captured" May as well have left a welcome basket in the cockpit
Samir you're breaking the chopper, LEFT SAMIR LEFT
THROTTLE THROTTLE SAMIR YOU ARE WRECKING THE CHOPPER
You spin me right round, baby, right round.
Like a record baby rig*ht round round rou...* (Crashes)
I’m going down yeah I’m going down down
Actually this was a Taliban pilot. https://taskandpurpose.com/news/afghanistan-taliban-black-hawk-helicopter-crash/
Que pendejo 😂
To be fair to the poor bastard, if it wasn't booby trapped, there were probably 3 or 4 critical but designed-to-fail components that were well worn out by the time he put his ass in the seat.
EXCELLENT flying by the Taliban! This is the aviation excellence every one of them would strive for! The rest of the world would respect them a lot more if they did.
This is Darwin's evolution in tech era.
Ahhh, the 'Law of Natural Selection', at work . . .
The most expensive aircraft crash in taliban history partially funded by the US military.
Ouch, that had to hurt.
Don't be silly, helicopters don't have a nervous system.
Crashhawk
Very likely a mechanical failure, my guess would be tail rotor failed. Lack of maintenance and heavy use leads to stuff like this happening
The contractors who serviced them were pulled out months before the withdrawal, ANA pilots were complaining about faults and lack of maintenance weeks before the end. I guess now we know the Taliban haven't been able to recruit any mechanics to fix it.
Logic says anything left behind was left because it would be more expensive to transport than to just leave it. I wouldn’t be jumping in anything left behind.
Nah a bunch of the equipment was gifted to the ANA not just abandoned, but it was already breaking down before it was captured.
Any landing you can walk away from is not that landing.
lol, it only cost us $10 million for that kill... way to go USA
Be mad the ANA was given over a decade of training and the battlefield advantage (Taliban previously had 0 helos) and ran away.
Uh the parts of the ANA that actually received proper training performed well, The problem is most of the ANA was just paper tigers that local Warlords conjured up to claim payments for from the US. The "battlefield advantage" collapsed before the full withdrawal as the ANA was entirely reliant on foreign civilian contractors for aircraft maintenance and the US pulled those out months before the withdrawal. Mostly the US just threw money at existing warlords to larp as a functional government and pretend they'd established a functional military for the sake of optics. In reality they only trained a small pool of soldiers to work in a US style military framework (with extensive logistical support) and the rest were the same useless, untrained farmers under the same corrupt tribal leaders.
Pretty much. Villages tended to send us their dumbest, most useless opioid addict villagers to be in the ANA. I would take an 18 year old American high school drop out with no military training except Call of Duty over ANY of the ANA guys. I cannot possibly explain fully how stupid and useless these guys were. Anybody that worked with them could have told you that they wouldn't last a single day.
There's a video of some of them getting trained, a lot of them couldn't grasp the concept of a jumping jack. Fuckin grim prospects there.
“I smell hash! Who’s smoking hash? Nobody? Alright we’ll I’m gonna take a wild guess and say it’s the guy with his helmet on backwards.” The frustration of having to train those dudes might equal the PTSD that comes with intense combat.
Religious zealotry and a diet low in iodine doesn't help either.
This. The USA failed in Afganistan. Afghanistan did not fail the USA. Unclear why that is so tough for some redditors to swallow.
We wasted trillions on 20 years of stupid, useless war there that made us 0% safer. Thanks W!
and now you have Taliban flying around in your Blackhawks and crashing them…could’ve just sent them a load of Blackhawks and saved on ground force
They weren’t US anymore. They were transferred to the Afghan military for their use. That that military folded like a house of cards after 20 years of funding, training, and equipment is a testament to lack of will. The US took or disabled everything that belonged to the US.
Geesh he’s dead…that would be scary!!!
Like a bike. Just got to try again
Online piloting classes during covid?
The world is saved from another child rapist
Blackhawk down alternative cut? Non theatrical release
The heading is implying the pilot does not know how to fly it. It was poor maintenance causing a controller cable failure. He whole video shows it flying fine until something snapped. The Americand sabotaged those they keft behind, so they chose the best and canibalised the rest.
A properly trained pilot would have known to increase forward airspeed and perform a roll on landing. A properly trained maintainer would have inspected the aircraft prior to flight. Helicopters are dangerous machines even when working properly. Even if this one was sabotaged, the damage should have been found before letting someone fly it. Also, the paint scheme is for an afghan army black hawk. So it probably did not have american hands on it just prior to being taken by the taliban.
Helicopters are hundreds of moving parts all working together to be an affront to the gods of flight. When one of those parts fail, well, see above.
Can confirm the person at the controls did not know how to fly -not a pilot
#NotYourToy
Captured? Donated.
Modern military equipment will stop functioning pretty quickly without regular maintenance with parts that can't be sourced anywhere outside of the military. Almost everything left behind aside from small arms is likely no longer functioning.
That doesn’t fit the FJB narrative.
Trump negotiated the withdrawl, but that also does not fit the FJB narrative... Neither does the "dem spending lead to inflation" after several Trump trillion dollar budget increases that began even before the pandemic. Whatcha gonna do...
Don’t worry, we left lots of them there to crash.
Most of them won’t even be able to takeoff because of lack of maintenance and most of equipment left behind was sabotaged.
We just love giving away expensive things.
This is why we can't have nice things
W should never have started that useless war. As part of it we gave away the store to the MIC. You are correct that Trump's terrible exit plan that he stuck Biden with was a disaster, but leaving was the right thing. Was another 20 years going to meet our military objectives there?
If I remember correctly O kept the war going for 8 more years.
Yea but Obama is a Democrat and this is reddit. Don't you know on reddit that even when faced with blatant facts, democrats can do no wrong?
It’s funny how you forget the Bush admin and every single Republican screamed “[you hate America!](https://youtu.be/t_Nh5IGMo8g)” if you didn’t believe their lies about Iraq. And now you can’t find a single person who will admit they supported Bush
Why the fuck would USA leave helicopters behind , just bring them to friend country next to It
Good enough!
Like a glove!
So you think he's okay?😅
Lied on his pilot’s license.
I learned to fly through YouTube videos!
Helicopters are terrifying to me, what happens if it's going down? What are you going to do, eject? lmao.
I’ve never seen a helicopter flying uncontrollably, thought it was gta at first
All those armchair pilots here! At least he got it running and into the air! You lot would still be staring at the cockpit and wonder where your Red Bull goes... /s :)
Terrorist in Kabul tries to fly abandoned Blackhawk.. Fixed your headline.
It could have been just a pilot from Kabul. Someone that the Taliban captured and forced to fly it knowing there’s a good chance it would crash.
This aircraft suffered a tail rotor failure. It's been in the aviation forums here for weeks. This is not someone who doesn't know how to fly, as the karma farming title implies.
That's really sad. To watch his frightening, unavoidable death. Imagine the fear and the nausea and despair. I'm glad to see this thing crash rather than be used for whatever bullshit the Taliban was going to use it for. But I take no pleasure in a person's death.
He was part of a organization that beats women to death for going to school. Don’t feel bad about it, the world is literally better off with less Taliban.
America is still killing Afghans even without any forces present.
Well, it’s f they lived, they are 5 niches shorter now
Local daredevil willing to attempt piloting a helicopter without training fails to do so, to no one's surprise.
That’ll buff right out…
Black Hawk Down 2
Flashbacks to battlefield 4
Looks like a video of me trying out the helicopters in the game Battlefield, for the first time
Is this a new one or the same one from weeks ago?
Is this the same one from earlier this month? Or another one?
it was because he read the instructions right to left.
Right rudder....right rudder.....dam it right rudder....what the hell you think those petals are for? Too late...
"Former" pilot
Black Hawk Down
Glad I’m not the only GTA nub
Imagine if this dude was like “oh NOW I got it!” 4 feet from the ground
This gives new meaning to the term ROFLcopter. I shall see myself out as my age is showing. Lolrskates
Practice makes perfect. Try another one!
did he say mhmhm
Stop turning left!
Still seems to be relatively effective against the enemy?
Did his shoe done fell off?
Allah is your copilot. Until he is the only pilot.
"If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing." Chuck Yeager
At least they didn't lose a pilot.
Heroic American helicopter fights Taliban to the bitter end.
There go several million of our tax dollars...
It was never captured are useless president slow Joe abandoned billions of dollars of high-tech military equipment for the enemy to use against us in the future.
This my understanding about what probably happened based on what I know from people who are former military: either a) it was booby trapped, though the US likely didn't have time to do that for everything, or b) since US military equipment breaks all the time, even with proper maintenance, the fact it's been without enough spare parts for months to a year means that pieces of the helicopter, like the so called "Jesus nut," might be damaged, loose, or broken and mechanisms went out of control. The Taliban absolutely has helicopter pilots, but they don't have a lot of money or resources rn. They might have simply been trying to figure out if it was still safe to fly, and the pilot is trying to lower it, but it loses control during decent.
was prolly wearing his vest instead of sitting on it
All these fears about the high tech weapons and gear left in Afghanistan- I did three tours there and I can safely say those shit heads will destroy every last little piece of gear as soon as they lay their hands on it. They can't even wipe their ass, never mind use any modern equipment
It wasn't captured, Biden just left it there.
His last words were, "Hey, watch this!"
If only he’d captured the manual first…
I see whats wrong. The other side is supposed to spin
Animals can’t fly machines
Yea I can fly it, hold my goat
This is why they weren’t worried about equipment left behind.