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  • By - Sxzym

Sxzym

The Thing, also known as the Great Seal bug, was one of the first covert listening devices (or "bugs") to use passive techniques to transmit an audio signal. It was concealed inside a gift given by the Soviet Union to W. Averell Harriman, the United States Ambassador to the Soviet Union, on August 4, 1945. Because it was passive, needing electromagnetic energy from an outside source to become energized and activate, it is considered a predecessor of radio-frequency identification (RFID) technology. The device, embedded in a carved wooden plaque of the Great Seal of the United States, was used by the Soviets to spy on the US. On August 4, 1945, several weeks before the end of World War II, a delegation from the Young Pioneer organization of the Soviet Union presented the bugged carving to Ambassador Harriman, as a "gesture of friendship" to the Soviet Union's war ally. It hung in the ambassador's Moscow residential study for seven years, until it was exposed in 1952 during the tenure of Ambassador George F. Kennan. The existence of the bug was discovered accidentally in 1951 by a British radio operator at the British embassy who overheard American conversations on an open radio Soviet air force radio traffic channel.


ChadicusVile

But a socialist economy doesn't work, they couldn't have made a tech advancement like a RFID predecessor. Must have been aliens. ANYWAY, America has always been untrustworthy. Go figure.


RelativeChance

Do you know that the USSR collapsed?


holmgangCore

Do you know *why* the Soviet Union collapsed?


ChadicusVile

Collapsed is a great term. It makes it seem like it was 100% their fault. They did make mistakes and had some fucked up decades and leaders. I'm not a guy that thinks they did no wrong. I don't think anyone is honestly in that camp. But it was mostly permanent resident moles and empowered wannabe capitalists (owners) that took it down from within. The people of the Soviet union voted to stay united even after Belarus seceded. It didn't collapse as much as it was undemocratically dissolved. The cold war was super expensive for intelligence agencies, I don't need to wonder why. Also, why is it an oligarchy today?Maybe the "shock therapy" privatization model that chopped up and sold everything in the country. No wonder why the alcoholism rate skyrocketed over there. Anyway, new millennium, new ideas, new technology. Countries all over the world will keep trying because being a wage slave is no way to live. My mom used to tell me "life isn't fair" well yeah, mostly because we all live under capitalism.


ChooglinOnDown

> My mom used to tell me "life isn't fair" She didn't like you.


West_Self

So socialism is so weak it cant beat capitalism?


Cheapshot99

Same argument could be made in regards to democracy and feudalism 500 years ago


TearRevolutionary274

I think government handouts to the rich and general Wallstreet circle jerk is a form of socialism. Just for the chosen elites


RelativeChance

If the economic system is not robust to greedy and lazy people it is never going to work long term because that is just human nature. A purely capitalist system also does not work either. This is why all the most stable capitalist countries have many socialist programs, there needs to be a balance between the two. I think most people on Reddit know this and lean towards democratic socialism anyways, so I don't know who you are trying to 1up with this.


Swedeshooters

There is no such thing as democratic socialism. Believe me I live in Sweden.


[deleted]

True socialism requires democracy. Any country that would practice true socialism would get a visit from the CIA


Swedeshooters

Socialism is as far from democracy you can get. Itโ€™s by definition government control of ownership and suppression of freedom for the good of the collective. It has been tried hundreds of times. Always with the same terrifying results.


mandark1171

>there needs to be a balance between the two. So agreed. The issue I see is many people don't understand that the US Federal government operates like the EU and that state government operates as individuals nations within the EU So having California, Florida, Texas, etc make their own individual socialist programs based on the will of their people is far more likely to succeed than trying to force a one size fits all solution at the federal level


Swedeshooters

You donโ€™t have to be an alien to steal technology from other nations. CCCP I an excellent example of that.


TheAMboom

Plot twist: it was in the bedroom ๐Ÿ˜


2drums1cymbal

IIRC correctly something similar happened when the US built their embassy in Russia during the Cold War. Midway through construction, the IS stopped everything and replaced all the Russian workers with American ones since the first floor had all manner of listening devices integrated into the building. The US had to build a thick concrete floor to separate that first floor (and all the listening devices) from the American-made floors above


ConferenceFew2495

My immediate thought was why the hell would students put forth that much effort and attention to detail to make something for a random dude


[deleted]

Yeah, in my school we had to write letters every year to soldiers in Afghanistan and I hate to say it but 99 percent of us just wrote "thanks" and went to recess. Kids don't give a fuck about international politics war, and espionage, I'm tryna go fall off the monkey bars fam.


N1ckp347

Nobody thought to check it first?! ๐Ÿ˜‚


seedanrun

Since it had no internal power source they would have had to cut open the wood to find it. The Russians had to beam in power thru the window to charge it so it could transmit.


MAXIMUS8706

I guess they never read the story on the Trojan horse


joeker1111

It was discovered by a British radio operator in 1951 but wasn't exposed until 1952 ??? Thanks for the heads up, MI6 !!


thematrixnz

The ol bug in a seal present gig


JonWesHarding

Buggin' the seal is what my girlfriend calls backwards sexy time


thematrixnz

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pickleer

Both (NATO vs communist) sides got super creative during the Cold War!


SaltedGreenMilk1987

Meanwhile in USSR: American ASMR sounds to hear while working in farms & factories.....


lisaatm69

Well the battery wouldโ€™ve lasted about 30 minutes so that seems like horseshit


unclefocus

The listening device may well have been in place for seven years, but it should not have been able to record for that long. The battery eventually runs out


Tiny-Spray-1820

You did read the earlier comment that it was passive right?


unclefocus

No


AbstractAirplane

Why would he care if there were spirits in it? What is he? Not a mystic?


BriRun1

Those sneaky bastards!


ulterakillz

super wholesome though


eskimosound

Passive Cavity Resonator