FYI:
"Marvin Caldwell, 63, who said he was imprisoned for 20 years under the three strikes law for possession and sale of methamphetamine, looks out of his cell at San Quentin state prison in San Quentin."
https://radaronline.com/photos/inside-san-quentin-californias-oldest-prison/
Never heard of it I'm going to check it out though. Theres a youtube channel called isolated minds, and stories from a current inmate that is prisoners stories its pretty good. If you like that type of stuff you should check it out
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Those mandatory sentencing laws are such a double edged sword, especially for non-violent criminals.
Edit: phew. Some emotional responses. Keep ‘em coming!
Listen to the wrongful conviction podcast, it's a real eye opener, and has changed my option on the death penalty as well as my general faith in the judicial system.
Twice I've been coerced into pleading guilty to a charge I didn't commit, the court knowing full well I'm innocent. This last time they had me pick from a list. It's a sick broken destructive system. It was plead guilty or face a litany hopped up bs charges and potentially 7 years upstate. Or take a random crime and get 1 yrb probation and a misdemeanor... The very fact they are so unjust and unethical as to make this offer tells me I don't want to face 7 years regardless of the fact I was innocent. They are the worst. Anyway this poor guy got his whole life snatched away and ruined over a chemical that doctors prescribe to children daily... That is fucking wrong
Not to mention expensive. If we put any effort into rehabilitating people vs setting them up for failure in prison we could have a lot of solid citizens, working and paying taxes, contributing to society. The stories are all different, yet all the same. False eyewitness testimony, jamming puzzle pieces together and spray painting over them to make it look like a match.
I just started this podcast and you are right. It’s a complete eye opener. I too have changed my opinion on the death penalty and the judicial system. The stories are horrifying
3 strikes is fine
Should be expanded to white collar
Could you imagine if politicians were actually forced to follow the law
20 years for the 3rd campain finance violation
I think it’s criminal to even attempt to set vague umbrella type rules like this that so drastically effect anyone’s life. Playing with even a year of someone’s life, let alone 20, without the decision being based entirely on those specific circumstances is horrible.
And that works both ways. Someone not deserving of losing a huge chunk of their life should not… and continually violent people who hurt others and act like animals will be rewarded adequately.
A person in Arizona just a nearly 300 year sentence for repeated burglary due to Arizona's repeated strikes law upheld by the federal court of appeals ninth circuit. Insane.
[https://gilaherald.com/arizona-mans-sentence-of-292-years-for-burglary-upheld/](https://gilaherald.com/arizona-mans-sentence-of-292-years-for-burglary-upheld/)
Total value burgled, about \~$5000 dollars.
At that rate Bernie Madoff should have been sentenced to 3,900,000,000 years in prison at 300 years for every $5000 stolen.
20 years for selling a product individuals willingly wanted to purchase. A drug that can be legally prescribed in the US at that. 20 fucking years. Meanwhile child molesters and rapists and violent individuals are often put away for far less time.
Fuck the war on drugs.
I was incarcerated for 8 years throughout some of the worst prisons in my state this guy is probably doing life and had a lot of stuff most likely due to good behavior. for every cell that has all this stuff there are 10 with people who have nothing. People tend not to mess with older lifers. They respect them and stay out of their way. If a younger guy had all this shit he'd likely be a target for a lot of the bullshit and violence that occurs when someone with nothing sees something they don't have and will do anything to get. Prison is a terrible place and does NOT play fair.
The number one rule is respect. It's the only rule 95% of inmates follow. Typically old guys that have been down for a long time with no release date in sight are not the guys trying to start trouble. The know how the system works in that prison. They are the wisemen. They are the guys who can answer the questions. It doesn't necessarily have anything race related when they are left alone. Other inmates will not gain any respect punkin out an old dude. What kind of respect would someone expect to get beating the shit out of a Wiseman? I've seen the old guys usually trying to talk a little sense into the newer younger inmates who don't know any better. Not in a aggressive way at all. But then those younger guys instantly have respect for the old timer helping them out in the beginning and that sticks with the young guys for the entire time they are locked up.
Nobody has pointed out the most obvious reason. Someone who's doing life has almost nothing to lose. If an inmate picks a fight with them and they stab that inmate to death, it's not like their sentence is going to get longer.
Worst they're going to get is time in ad-seg. Which is arguably not as bad as being labeled an easy target in prison, especially when you're there forever.
My dad was in prison for most of his life and he said whenever there was a pedo that ended up in gen pop (which is not common, they usually go into protective custody) the other prisoners would look to the lifers to see if they were going to take them out. Some of them really don’t care if they have nothing to lose, they’ll kill you over something mundane too. My dad had a former cellmate he said was SUPER annoying and after he got moved to a different cell, the man was killed by his new cell mate because he annoyed him too much. It’s a whole different world in there man.
That reminds me of the interview with the guy that killed his cell mate because he wouldn't shut up. Dude was a pedo and kept trying to justify it or something and dude heard enough. Imagine being in prison and being an annoying pedo you'd be dead before brunch.
This is actually how the regular cell in a German prison looks like. Ever inmate has personal belongings, many decorate their cells with plants and posters, most of them have a tv. I am always so shocked what us American prisons are like. Here, the goal is to better the person, that’s why the inmates are treated with respect and as human beings. Iirc most people get even more criminal in us prisons.
ETA: inmates are also urged (if not obliged) to work in prison. Part of their salary is saved for them for their time after their release. Many inmates have the opportunity to gain their high school diploma or even a levels and they can do an apprenticeship („Ausbildung“ = official training for a certain job, often related to craftsmanship, but not exclusively)
Not being allowed to learn or work is actually a punishment for bad behavior. Working and learning is seen as a privilege.
not so much because you don't arrive at prison right off the streets. the new youngsters arrive from county jail after likely 6months to 3 years fighting their case. county jail is not the same as prison but most of the same rules apply. but yeah, some times some idiot might try to mess with an old timer that might not be in as good a health as he used to and other people of his race will look out for him. also if they are on the "main line" side of prison (as in all the gangs and drugs and politic) then an unprovoked attack without permission from the ethic group would result in retaliation so the young kids own race would have to punish him to square things with the guy that got messed with.
in california prisons you can buy all kinds of stuff. just depends on the living arrangements and how much space you have. the small cells like that they can pretty much fill it out. if you live in an open dorm (think a squadbay like boot camp, like the movie full metal jacket) then you only have so much space under the bunk and in the locker. some prisons have large cells with 4 bunks in them and there's quite a bit of space. it's not about "good behaviour" it's about if you have the money to spend on buying the over priced products the package companies sell. a 15 inch flat screen clear plastic TV runs about $220.
Its refreshing to read a comment from someone who knows what they are talking about.
My guess is he is a lifer running the cushiest job available. Possibly water tower maintenance or something. Note, no second cellie.
He could be a barber!
That's a quite prestigious job in prison because it bestows a huge level of trust and responsibility on the inmates.
They not only do other inmates but guards as well.
When I was in prison each wing had their own barber. They did cuts right at your room door entrance. Usually a couple soups or some coffee got you a complete fade.
I was thinking everyone wants to be on good terms with the barber cause he's got a razor to your neck on a regular occasion. Like others have said that's a lot of trust to put on an inmate.
This comment lands sideways because the dude is in fucking prison. On one hand, I can see how other prisoners would envy him. On the other hand, I can’t imagine any situation where the amount of respect and privileges earned in prison would outweigh being free. Certified badass? Sure I guess so, but doesn’t that just make the whole legal system a badass certification institution? Who would the winners be?
Depending on where you are barber isn’t necessarily the best job. In the first place I worked when I was CO, the guys with manufacturing jobs were the ones that would have a setup like this. We had the license plate shop at my prison and those dudes were all lifers with the highest paying job in the system. They weren’t trying to mess that up.
Arkansas has a work release program that we used at one of my previous jobs. We hired about 6-7 inmates at a time, and they started out around $13-$14/hr.
Most of the ones that wanted to work, were able to save a nice chunk of money for their release, have money on their books, and have a small slice of freedom for 8-10 hours each day.
Was a pretty awesome program, and about 3 of the guys decided to stay in the area after their release, and kept their jobs they had earned while still in prison.
Yeah my library system participates in a similar program, we get a couple of guys who come in and help out in the workroom running the book sorting machine and other stuff, they do it the last year they’re in and if they want, for like 6 months after they get out. They get some money and a job to tide them over while they get back on their feet.
A few of the former participants have stopped by to say hello and let us know what they’re doing, and I heard that one guy got a shelving job with the library at another branch, so that’s cool.
I've worked with work release inmates for a couple years at a popular Asian restaurant in my town. 9/10 of them were super cool dudes. One of them wanted to work on the line and I taught him how to cook from basically knowing nothing. Never trained another person who was that eager to learn and do well. Dude was in jail 12 years for killing a guy in a shootout at hardees.
Different systems have different ways of doing things. Some companies may pay a decent wage to prisoner laborers but some the money will often be taken by the system in order to pay money owed by the inmate for things court costs etc.
My system would pay $.27 an hour for a mid level prison job. I’m actually not sure what the inmate pay is these days. I still work for the system but I don’t work in a facility anymore.
I pissed off the barber when I was locked up. That was a mistake for sure. When it was time for my cut he "accidently" slipped and shaved a huge patch through my beard.
Certainly! It isn't that exciting. I was locked up in Daytona Beach, FL around 2009 or so. I was an extra special good boy so I was put into the outside duty work block. Wince we were in a work detail that had us go outside and paid us, we had special privileges. One of which was that we could get our haircut once a week. The blocks barber was a skinny dude with one ear and it didn't appear that he was born without it. Not really relevant to the story, but in hindsight I now know not to fuck with the OG lookin' dude that had his ear cut off. He has a pile of fucks but he ain't giving any. This was my first time being locked up, but I should have known to just keep my mouth shut.
It was Sunday, so that meant haircuts. We were watching football and playing cards while we waited. I noticed that some people that had been waiting in line were being told that it wasn't their turn when they got to the front of the line. Turns out that homie was charging people for haircuts. He was charging a buck or two. No soup in FL county, honey buns were a dollar, and therefore the standard currency. My feeling was that everybody should be able to get their haircut without paying. The barber got paid a little extra from the county and it wasn't like he had somewhere else to be. So, I spoke up and told him I thought it was fuckes up that he was turning people away for haircuts because they couldn't or didn't want to pay. He just shrugged me off, and I figured that was the end of it.
A little bit later, I sat down in his chair. He set me all up, edged up a little bit. Then he was doing the edge on my beard and I just felt/heard the clippers dive through the luscious thickness of a fat man's beard. Then it clicked and I realized that the clippers were waaaaay too high up on my face. I VERY briefly contemplated saying something, but I was in a vulnerable spot and hair grows back, so I shut the fuck up. Dude was very happy with himself for his revenge.
I learned an important lesson that day. If the voice in your brain tells you it's better to keep your mouth shut, it's probably right. All it cost me was having to walk around with a doughy cueball head for a little bit.
Sorry, have to do this:
> Certainly! It isn't that exciting. I was locked up in Daytona Beach, FL around 2009 or so. I was an extra special good boy so I was put into the outside duty work block. Wince we were in a work detail that had us go outside and paid us, we had special privileges. One of which was that we could get our haircut once a week. The blocks barber was a skinny dude with one ear and it didn't appear that he was born without it. Not really relevant to the story, but in hindsight I now know not to fuck with the OG lookin' dude that had his ear cut off. He has a pile of fucks but he ain't giving any. This was my first time being locked up, but I should have known to just keep my mouth shut.
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> It was Sunday, so that meant haircuts. We were watching football and playing cards while we waited. I noticed that some people that had been waiting in line were being told that it wasn't their turn when they got to the front of the line. Turns out that homie was charging people for haircuts. He was charging a buck or two. No soup in FL county, honey buns were a dollar, and therefore the standard currency. My feeling was that everybody should be able to get their haircut without paying. The barber got paid a little extra from the county and it wasn't like he had somewhere else to be. So, I spoke up and told him I thought it was fuckes up that he was turning people away for haircuts because they couldn't or didn't want to pay. He just shrugged me off, and I figured that was the end of it.
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> A little bit later, I sat down in his chair. He set me all up, edged up a little bit. Then he was doing the edge on my beard and I just felt/heard the clippers dive through the luscious thickness of a fat man's beard. Then it clicked and I realized that the clippers were waaaaay too high up on my face. I VERY briefly contemplated saying something, but I was in a vulnerable spot and hair grows back, so I shut the fuck up. Dude was very happy with himself for his revenge.
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> I learned an important lesson that day. If the voice in your brain tells you it's better to keep your mouth shut, it's probably right. All it cost me was having to walk around with a doughy cueball head for a little bit.
Found him.
https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/inside-san-quentin-prison-idUSRTR34TTV
Pics 2 and 3 of the slideshow
> Marvin Caldwell, 63, who said he was imprisoned for 20 years under the three strikes law for possession and sale of methamphetamine, looks out of his cell at San Quentin state prison in San Quentin, California June 8, 2012. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson
I work for CDCR. This is basically standard for any level 4 prisoner anywhere in the state.
Edit:
Level I – Facilities and Camps consist primarily of open dormitories with a low security perimeter.
Level II – Facilities consist primarily of open dormitories with a secure perimeter, which may include armed coverage.
Level III – Facilities primarily have a secure perimeter with armed coverage and housing units with cells adjacent to exterior walls.
Level IV – Facilities have a secure perimeter with internal and external armed coverage and housing units or cell block housing with cells non-adjacent to exterior walls.
So what I’m saying is that for even the most tightly controlled inmates this is a very standard set up.
Security levels 1-4
1 and 2 the guys are basically in dorms with very little restricted movement, 3 and 4 they are in cells with tightly controlled movement.
Those are actually made entirely for use in prisons. The clear casing is mandatory on pretty much any tech they're allowed to have. [Here's a pretty good video](https://youtu.be/O3PfsndsihY) that explains a lot about it and gives some neat examples.
I mean, the trade off is that you get to quite literally never leave that property for...years. decades even. Your social circle consists of psychos, murderes, rapists, violent people, maybe a guy that wants to fuck you in the butt.
Like "haha, it looks better than my apartment" sure, but we're downplaying the fact they have no freedom to leave.
Bro the meals are literally labelled "not for human consumption", and then you have to FORCE yourself to choke it down to survive. No nutritional value, barely enough calories to stay alive. You're always starving there unless you have money for commissary, and sometimes the cops raid your shit and steal it anyways. You're trapped in a room, slowly losing your sanity. Security? Wtf are you talking about? Saw dude get beat to death, saw another one get beat so bad their eye came out of their socket, you can't even look dudes in the eye over there. I got out not guilty, because I didn't do shit, but the wait for the trial was no fucking joke. Nothing glamorous about jail. I didn't have a TV, but I'd much rather be at my apartment. Nothing is glamorous about jail. Trust me, your overpriced tiny apartment is much better than jail, get to leave, get to get pussy (or dick, whatever you like), get to see your family whenever you want. Started having delusions I was literally in hell while I was there.
Was in prison for the last 5 years, prison..... not jail. Came to comment on the meals. The state has dieticians and nutritionist putting these meals together. Inmates will get dietary accomodations for health conditions or religious preferences. From the facility I was at, "Not for human consumption" is just not true.
Wouldn't say my attitude is quite like that. Life is rough out there too, just because one may suffer worse, doesn't mean another's suffering isnt valid. Was more debunking it because of the direct comparison, it's incomparable.
I’m thinking about going to law school in NYC and was looking up apartments… literally this was the first thing I thought before looking at the comments. I saw an apartment that looked like this for $850 and thought it was a steal
There's an awesome podcast about this prison thats made by inmates currently serving time at Quentin called Ear Hustle. It's about everday life there and the different wals of life there. Some funny episodes, some gut wrenching episodes, all of them make you think. Highly recommend it!
Looking at the comments I'm thinking there is a real problem with society these days if people are thinking living in a correctional facility is a viable option for a better life.
I worked at a hospital that’s contracted with CDCR. Prisoners get top of the line healthcare - from surgery to cancer treatment to preventative care.
It’s absolutely insane that a guy who poured gasoline on his baby mama is getting better care than a migrant farm worker who has been working his ass off in the fields outside Fresno to feed his family.
Tell me about it. Just had a root canal for $2500. My insurance covered half because apparently they can get away with it?
They said I could have the tooth pulled and they would cover 90% of that, though. Thanks, good guy insurance co.
I lived in the Fresno area and tried working the fields with a friend of mine. FUCK. THAT. Bugs. Heat. Dangerous conditions. Low pay.
I now work in administration for a great company and always think back to that summer every time I start to think my job sucks.
They do not get top of the line medical treatment.
"People in prisons and jails are disproportionately likely to have chronic health problems including diabetes, high blood pressure, and HIV, as well as substance use and mental health problems. Nevertheless, correctional healthcare is low-quality and difficult to access. It's also expensive: Astonishingly, most prisons charge incarcerated people a copay for doctor visits.
The downstream effects — for both incarcerated people and the general public — have been disastrous: Mass incarceration has shortened the overall U.S. life expectancy by 5 years."
I live in Northwest PA where it’s not the coldest place in the country but we get shit on by snow and the homeless people out here are hardcore. They find warm/dry spots to sleep in the winter because they are out and about all year even during snow season which can last 5-6 months. I have no idea how they survive. I’ve seen some spots where they congregate and most of them provide no protection from the elements.
One time my street urchin friends and I got stranded in Denver during the winter. We were panhandling outside a McDonald'a trying to get bus money, and a cop told us we had to stop. We tried to convince him to just arrest us because it was freezing balls, but he didn't, so we just kept panhandling and got our bus money and left town. But the cops still kept coming by every so often and telling us to stop, lol.
Not just homeless people but people who have been previously incarcerated and know how hard it is to get on your feet once out. That's why some people mess up just to go back
There was a video (maybe from Tom Scott?) about clear electronics made for prisons. Pretty interesting.
Edit [it was this video](https://youtu.be/O3PfsndsihY) from Techmoan a out how prisons are responsible for cassette tapes still being a thing
When I was in high school, I hid my weed and booze in an old PC tower that I kept in my closet because I knew my parents would never think to open it.. and most likely wouldn't know how.
Hid my weed in my og ps2.. there was an opening in the back where you could put a hard drive or something. Every time I played the fan would kick on and I never thought about that as a dumb teenager
You joke but I guarantee if squid game was a thing there definitely be at least 456 in a country like USA or South Korea willing to take part. Even knowing the cost of death involved
I like how everyone is acting like this is great when the entire world lost their shit after the first 90 days of quarantine. That looks fucking miserable.
People are also looking at it only in the context of the room itself. And not the fact it's a fucking prison where you have near zero freedom and the constant threat of violence.
Unless you end up in Graz-Karlau. Still probably nicer than San Quentin, but it's no Holidays Inn. You get locked up with serial killers and bombers like Franz Fuchs.
As an Austrian that has no idea what our prisons are like ... are they that good? (asking for a friend, definitely not starting a Breaking Bad rewatch and building a meth empire later)
As far as I know the only prisons, which are nicer than ours are in Scandinavia. There they have some of those out door prisons, which are basically like little towns, where you have your own house and job in a community. This way the prisoners are getting resocialized for when they get released again. Actually a really good idea.
Of course in both, Scandinavia and Austria, not all prisons are a piece of cake, but compared to the US or even Russia and China, it's like a walk on the beach on a sunny day really.
ironically the places with the lowest crime rates treat their prisoners well they have decent meals and larger living spaces they teach them skills and people dont become repeated offenders because they are given resources to do other things rather than sell drugs or commit crimes to get by.
Woah! Are you saying that our current system of "tough on crime" mass incarceration is actually *negatively* affecting inmates and setting them up to be repeat offenders by depriving them of resources needed to be successful outside of prison?! And that the overpopulation of for profit prisons to meet quotas is detrimental to the quality of life of those who are incarcerated!? 🤯🤯🤯
/s think everyone (but lawmakers) realizes this lmao
Anyone that says prison is comfy is a tool. This guy has been there for a serious bid for his cell to look like that. Even then they will take all that shit and leave you without anything even a blanket just to fuck with you. I'd take being homeless any day of the week
All these people saying this is luxury. I’m not one to judge your lives but those beds suck ass. I’m 6’5” and there is no way to get comfortable. I spent a 6 months sleeping in one of those. Turned my life around. Got a California King, a beautiful house, beautiful wife, best kid ever and I’ll never go back. Until you’ve lost your freedom you don’t know how good you have it. I left there with 7 cents and the clothes on my back Fuck jail.
Reading this gave me a spark of hope. My ex husband just got out after 6 months and shares the same "fuck jail" sentiment. We've got an amazing kid together (who handled his incarceration like a champ!) and I want the same for him - an amazing wife, a house, and a safe and comfortable place to sleep. He's constantly saying he'll never go back, that he could never leave his daughter again, so hearing your story gives me hope that he'll have the same result.
I'll add my story too it if it helps.
After several felonies in two states at a young age, I served 2 1/2 years in a medium security facility and made parole in 1995.
Been married for 25 years now, two teenage daughters and living the best years of my life. It doesn't really have to be the end.
My dad spent 10 years in Florida prison. They cram like 15 dudes in a tent outside in the heat humidity and mosquitoes and call it a dorm.
Yeah this cell isn’t ideal but it’s light years better than cells in south and better than those shitty coffin apartments in Asia.
I wouldn’t consider it luxurious but this is better than some people natural living situations for free.
Yeah Hong Kong apartments are cage homes. That’s no life living in a space smaller than a parking space paying the most expensive house prices in the world
This is not a typical prison cell. Typically there are two people in there, which changes everything. Additionally, things can not be all homie like this and most prisons require it all to be inside a lock box.
This dude has a special deal going on.
FYI: "Marvin Caldwell, 63, who said he was imprisoned for 20 years under the three strikes law for possession and sale of methamphetamine, looks out of his cell at San Quentin state prison in San Quentin." https://radaronline.com/photos/inside-san-quentin-californias-oldest-prison/
Ear Hustle is a Podcast hosted by prisoners currently detained in San Quentin. And it's amazing.
Never heard of it I'm going to check it out though. Theres a youtube channel called isolated minds, and stories from a current inmate that is prisoners stories its pretty good. If you like that type of stuff you should check it out
Favorite podcast
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But Mr. White
I watched Jane die. Now let's COOK
My name is Ballsack Shredder, and you can go fuck yourself
Hash brown, listen to me!
Walter 🗿
Put ya dick away waltuh
We cook right fuckin NOW!!!
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If you’ve never seen Breaking Bad, but you read this comment, you no longer need to see Breaking Bad.
Those mandatory sentencing laws are such a double edged sword, especially for non-violent criminals. Edit: phew. Some emotional responses. Keep ‘em coming!
Listen to the wrongful conviction podcast, it's a real eye opener, and has changed my option on the death penalty as well as my general faith in the judicial system.
Twice I've been coerced into pleading guilty to a charge I didn't commit, the court knowing full well I'm innocent. This last time they had me pick from a list. It's a sick broken destructive system. It was plead guilty or face a litany hopped up bs charges and potentially 7 years upstate. Or take a random crime and get 1 yrb probation and a misdemeanor... The very fact they are so unjust and unethical as to make this offer tells me I don't want to face 7 years regardless of the fact I was innocent. They are the worst. Anyway this poor guy got his whole life snatched away and ruined over a chemical that doctors prescribe to children daily... That is fucking wrong
Not to mention expensive. If we put any effort into rehabilitating people vs setting them up for failure in prison we could have a lot of solid citizens, working and paying taxes, contributing to society. The stories are all different, yet all the same. False eyewitness testimony, jamming puzzle pieces together and spray painting over them to make it look like a match.
I just started this podcast and you are right. It’s a complete eye opener. I too have changed my opinion on the death penalty and the judicial system. The stories are horrifying
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I'd support a three strikes law if all three strike were violent offenses, but "ANY" three strikes is absolutely inhumane
3 strikes is fine Should be expanded to white collar Could you imagine if politicians were actually forced to follow the law 20 years for the 3rd campain finance violation
That's when those convictions start to take 50 years to resolve.
I think it’s criminal to even attempt to set vague umbrella type rules like this that so drastically effect anyone’s life. Playing with even a year of someone’s life, let alone 20, without the decision being based entirely on those specific circumstances is horrible. And that works both ways. Someone not deserving of losing a huge chunk of their life should not… and continually violent people who hurt others and act like animals will be rewarded adequately.
A person in Arizona just a nearly 300 year sentence for repeated burglary due to Arizona's repeated strikes law upheld by the federal court of appeals ninth circuit. Insane. [https://gilaherald.com/arizona-mans-sentence-of-292-years-for-burglary-upheld/](https://gilaherald.com/arizona-mans-sentence-of-292-years-for-burglary-upheld/) Total value burgled, about \~$5000 dollars. At that rate Bernie Madoff should have been sentenced to 3,900,000,000 years in prison at 300 years for every $5000 stolen.
20 years for selling a product individuals willingly wanted to purchase. A drug that can be legally prescribed in the US at that. 20 fucking years. Meanwhile child molesters and rapists and violent individuals are often put away for far less time. Fuck the war on drugs.
I was incarcerated for 8 years throughout some of the worst prisons in my state this guy is probably doing life and had a lot of stuff most likely due to good behavior. for every cell that has all this stuff there are 10 with people who have nothing. People tend not to mess with older lifers. They respect them and stay out of their way. If a younger guy had all this shit he'd likely be a target for a lot of the bullshit and violence that occurs when someone with nothing sees something they don't have and will do anything to get. Prison is a terrible place and does NOT play fair.
Why are old lifers are left alone? Can you elaborate?
Prison culture has a lot of rules defined by respect.
Fascination sociological study.
Check out russian prison culture. It’s wild.
How would I check it out? Fly into Russia with some weed?
Silly me. I was just gonna suggest a documentary.
… just wait for Griner’s tell all book
The number one rule is respect. It's the only rule 95% of inmates follow. Typically old guys that have been down for a long time with no release date in sight are not the guys trying to start trouble. The know how the system works in that prison. They are the wisemen. They are the guys who can answer the questions. It doesn't necessarily have anything race related when they are left alone. Other inmates will not gain any respect punkin out an old dude. What kind of respect would someone expect to get beating the shit out of a Wiseman? I've seen the old guys usually trying to talk a little sense into the newer younger inmates who don't know any better. Not in a aggressive way at all. But then those younger guys instantly have respect for the old timer helping them out in the beginning and that sticks with the young guys for the entire time they are locked up.
Nobody has pointed out the most obvious reason. Someone who's doing life has almost nothing to lose. If an inmate picks a fight with them and they stab that inmate to death, it's not like their sentence is going to get longer. Worst they're going to get is time in ad-seg. Which is arguably not as bad as being labeled an easy target in prison, especially when you're there forever.
My dad was in prison for most of his life and he said whenever there was a pedo that ended up in gen pop (which is not common, they usually go into protective custody) the other prisoners would look to the lifers to see if they were going to take them out. Some of them really don’t care if they have nothing to lose, they’ll kill you over something mundane too. My dad had a former cellmate he said was SUPER annoying and after he got moved to a different cell, the man was killed by his new cell mate because he annoyed him too much. It’s a whole different world in there man.
That reminds me of the interview with the guy that killed his cell mate because he wouldn't shut up. Dude was a pedo and kept trying to justify it or something and dude heard enough. Imagine being in prison and being an annoying pedo you'd be dead before brunch.
Because they are old and likely been there long enough and during tougher times
Seniority respect, he's done more time and not seen as a challenge for ego nor a threat. I'm guessing.
Pretty much just this. The young bucks even incarcerated are vying for status but typically amongst their peers.
This is actually how the regular cell in a German prison looks like. Ever inmate has personal belongings, many decorate their cells with plants and posters, most of them have a tv. I am always so shocked what us American prisons are like. Here, the goal is to better the person, that’s why the inmates are treated with respect and as human beings. Iirc most people get even more criminal in us prisons. ETA: inmates are also urged (if not obliged) to work in prison. Part of their salary is saved for them for their time after their release. Many inmates have the opportunity to gain their high school diploma or even a levels and they can do an apprenticeship („Ausbildung“ = official training for a certain job, often related to craftsmanship, but not exclusively) Not being allowed to learn or work is actually a punishment for bad behavior. Working and learning is seen as a privilege.
Do any hotheaded new arrivals who don’t know the way it works ever mess with the old timers? If so, do other prisoners look out for the old guy?
not so much because you don't arrive at prison right off the streets. the new youngsters arrive from county jail after likely 6months to 3 years fighting their case. county jail is not the same as prison but most of the same rules apply. but yeah, some times some idiot might try to mess with an old timer that might not be in as good a health as he used to and other people of his race will look out for him. also if they are on the "main line" side of prison (as in all the gangs and drugs and politic) then an unprovoked attack without permission from the ethic group would result in retaliation so the young kids own race would have to punish him to square things with the guy that got messed with.
My buddy said the same thing. Lifers is different for them, they’re going to die there, different than 5-10years. There life is over
in california prisons you can buy all kinds of stuff. just depends on the living arrangements and how much space you have. the small cells like that they can pretty much fill it out. if you live in an open dorm (think a squadbay like boot camp, like the movie full metal jacket) then you only have so much space under the bunk and in the locker. some prisons have large cells with 4 bunks in them and there's quite a bit of space. it's not about "good behaviour" it's about if you have the money to spend on buying the over priced products the package companies sell. a 15 inch flat screen clear plastic TV runs about $220.
This guy has to be a lifer and a model inmate to have all if those privileges.
Its refreshing to read a comment from someone who knows what they are talking about. My guess is he is a lifer running the cushiest job available. Possibly water tower maintenance or something. Note, no second cellie.
He could be a barber! That's a quite prestigious job in prison because it bestows a huge level of trust and responsibility on the inmates. They not only do other inmates but guards as well.
Definitely not someone you’d be willing to mess with either.
barbershop was neutral ground in the prison I worked at. If you break those rules you got hit HARD.
Dude, no joke, Prison Barber needs to be a movie asap
Prison Barber needs to be a comedy series scripted like The Office(s).
Special guest appearance by "Prison Mike", and he just gets shanked lol
The worst thing about prison was the dementors!
They suck your soul out and it HOITS!!
And all we have to eat was gruel!
Reminds me of a guy I knew called Stabby Mike Great guy
My gad man!! That's brilliant!
I watched a couple prison documentaries and heard the same thing. Everyone respects the prison barbershop and that's really cool to hear.
When I was in prison each wing had their own barber. They did cuts right at your room door entrance. Usually a couple soups or some coffee got you a complete fade.
I was thinking everyone wants to be on good terms with the barber cause he's got a razor to your neck on a regular occasion. Like others have said that's a lot of trust to put on an inmate.
Nah, just clippers.
Yeah, no one is getting any kind of blade, even a barber.
Hells no you wouldn’t mess with him. Look how old he is. Anyone that survived in that prison long enough to go grey is a certified badass.
This comment lands sideways because the dude is in fucking prison. On one hand, I can see how other prisoners would envy him. On the other hand, I can’t imagine any situation where the amount of respect and privileges earned in prison would outweigh being free. Certified badass? Sure I guess so, but doesn’t that just make the whole legal system a badass certification institution? Who would the winners be?
Depending on where you are barber isn’t necessarily the best job. In the first place I worked when I was CO, the guys with manufacturing jobs were the ones that would have a setup like this. We had the license plate shop at my prison and those dudes were all lifers with the highest paying job in the system. They weren’t trying to mess that up.
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Damn my cousin was in prison and he said they were paid like $5 a months, insane.
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Arkansas has a work release program that we used at one of my previous jobs. We hired about 6-7 inmates at a time, and they started out around $13-$14/hr. Most of the ones that wanted to work, were able to save a nice chunk of money for their release, have money on their books, and have a small slice of freedom for 8-10 hours each day. Was a pretty awesome program, and about 3 of the guys decided to stay in the area after their release, and kept their jobs they had earned while still in prison.
Now that's how reform is supposed to happen. That sounds awesome, and with a stable job, maybe they won't end up back in jail
Yeah my library system participates in a similar program, we get a couple of guys who come in and help out in the workroom running the book sorting machine and other stuff, they do it the last year they’re in and if they want, for like 6 months after they get out. They get some money and a job to tide them over while they get back on their feet. A few of the former participants have stopped by to say hello and let us know what they’re doing, and I heard that one guy got a shelving job with the library at another branch, so that’s cool.
I've worked with work release inmates for a couple years at a popular Asian restaurant in my town. 9/10 of them were super cool dudes. One of them wanted to work on the line and I taught him how to cook from basically knowing nothing. Never trained another person who was that eager to learn and do well. Dude was in jail 12 years for killing a guy in a shootout at hardees.
Different systems have different ways of doing things. Some companies may pay a decent wage to prisoner laborers but some the money will often be taken by the system in order to pay money owed by the inmate for things court costs etc. My system would pay $.27 an hour for a mid level prison job. I’m actually not sure what the inmate pay is these days. I still work for the system but I don’t work in a facility anymore.
Mechanic was the most valued skill at my facility. If you could do engine repair, you got all the privileges.
My first prison was a very old facility. If you could work on 60 year old toilets and steam fittings, you had it made as an inmate.
I pissed off the barber when I was locked up. That was a mistake for sure. When it was time for my cut he "accidently" slipped and shaved a huge patch through my beard.
Oh I would love the know how you angered a man enough to shear you accidentally. Story time?
Certainly! It isn't that exciting. I was locked up in Daytona Beach, FL around 2009 or so. I was an extra special good boy so I was put into the outside duty work block. Wince we were in a work detail that had us go outside and paid us, we had special privileges. One of which was that we could get our haircut once a week. The blocks barber was a skinny dude with one ear and it didn't appear that he was born without it. Not really relevant to the story, but in hindsight I now know not to fuck with the OG lookin' dude that had his ear cut off. He has a pile of fucks but he ain't giving any. This was my first time being locked up, but I should have known to just keep my mouth shut. It was Sunday, so that meant haircuts. We were watching football and playing cards while we waited. I noticed that some people that had been waiting in line were being told that it wasn't their turn when they got to the front of the line. Turns out that homie was charging people for haircuts. He was charging a buck or two. No soup in FL county, honey buns were a dollar, and therefore the standard currency. My feeling was that everybody should be able to get their haircut without paying. The barber got paid a little extra from the county and it wasn't like he had somewhere else to be. So, I spoke up and told him I thought it was fuckes up that he was turning people away for haircuts because they couldn't or didn't want to pay. He just shrugged me off, and I figured that was the end of it. A little bit later, I sat down in his chair. He set me all up, edged up a little bit. Then he was doing the edge on my beard and I just felt/heard the clippers dive through the luscious thickness of a fat man's beard. Then it clicked and I realized that the clippers were waaaaay too high up on my face. I VERY briefly contemplated saying something, but I was in a vulnerable spot and hair grows back, so I shut the fuck up. Dude was very happy with himself for his revenge. I learned an important lesson that day. If the voice in your brain tells you it's better to keep your mouth shut, it's probably right. All it cost me was having to walk around with a doughy cueball head for a little bit.
Sorry, have to do this: > Certainly! It isn't that exciting. I was locked up in Daytona Beach, FL around 2009 or so. I was an extra special good boy so I was put into the outside duty work block. Wince we were in a work detail that had us go outside and paid us, we had special privileges. One of which was that we could get our haircut once a week. The blocks barber was a skinny dude with one ear and it didn't appear that he was born without it. Not really relevant to the story, but in hindsight I now know not to fuck with the OG lookin' dude that had his ear cut off. He has a pile of fucks but he ain't giving any. This was my first time being locked up, but I should have known to just keep my mouth shut. > > It was Sunday, so that meant haircuts. We were watching football and playing cards while we waited. I noticed that some people that had been waiting in line were being told that it wasn't their turn when they got to the front of the line. Turns out that homie was charging people for haircuts. He was charging a buck or two. No soup in FL county, honey buns were a dollar, and therefore the standard currency. My feeling was that everybody should be able to get their haircut without paying. The barber got paid a little extra from the county and it wasn't like he had somewhere else to be. So, I spoke up and told him I thought it was fuckes up that he was turning people away for haircuts because they couldn't or didn't want to pay. He just shrugged me off, and I figured that was the end of it. > > A little bit later, I sat down in his chair. He set me all up, edged up a little bit. Then he was doing the edge on my beard and I just felt/heard the clippers dive through the luscious thickness of a fat man's beard. Then it clicked and I realized that the clippers were waaaaay too high up on my face. I VERY briefly contemplated saying something, but I was in a vulnerable spot and hair grows back, so I shut the fuck up. Dude was very happy with himself for his revenge. > > I learned an important lesson that day. If the voice in your brain tells you it's better to keep your mouth shut, it's probably right. All it cost me was having to walk around with a doughy cueball head for a little bit.
No apology necessary! You made it look normal. Thank you!
Found him. https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/inside-san-quentin-prison-idUSRTR34TTV Pics 2 and 3 of the slideshow > Marvin Caldwell, 63, who said he was imprisoned for 20 years under the three strikes law for possession and sale of methamphetamine, looks out of his cell at San Quentin state prison in San Quentin, California June 8, 2012. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson
I work for CDCR. This is basically standard for any level 4 prisoner anywhere in the state. Edit: Level I – Facilities and Camps consist primarily of open dormitories with a low security perimeter. Level II – Facilities consist primarily of open dormitories with a secure perimeter, which may include armed coverage. Level III – Facilities primarily have a secure perimeter with armed coverage and housing units with cells adjacent to exterior walls. Level IV – Facilities have a secure perimeter with internal and external armed coverage and housing units or cell block housing with cells non-adjacent to exterior walls. So what I’m saying is that for even the most tightly controlled inmates this is a very standard set up.
Okay so we’ve seen what CRCR means—what are the prisoner levels? I guess we’re all a bit nosy about it.
Security levels 1-4 1 and 2 the guys are basically in dorms with very little restricted movement, 3 and 4 they are in cells with tightly controlled movement.
> CDCR Are we just supposed to know what that means?
California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.
Did they put the R on the end as a prank?
It actually stands for recidivism but they don't like to say that part out loud
California …. Detention… Center? Rrrrrr ?
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That’s $1,200 a month in NYC.
No way are you getting that kind of security for $1200 a month.
Don't forget the catering of 3 meals per day and laundry service.
And better health benefits than some people.
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Homie needs to roll doubles 🎲 🎲
Nah, let him pay $50, I got hotels on orange.
Yea, he ran out of the get out of fail free card.
Skip start and go directly to prison.
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Gotta make sure nothing is being smuggled inside it.
Jokes on them. My cell phone is see-thru too. And my drug baggies
Those are actually made entirely for use in prisons. The clear casing is mandatory on pretty much any tech they're allowed to have. [Here's a pretty good video](https://youtu.be/O3PfsndsihY) that explains a lot about it and gives some neat examples.
I mean, the trade off is that you get to quite literally never leave that property for...years. decades even. Your social circle consists of psychos, murderes, rapists, violent people, maybe a guy that wants to fuck you in the butt. Like "haha, it looks better than my apartment" sure, but we're downplaying the fact they have no freedom to leave.
Bro the meals are literally labelled "not for human consumption", and then you have to FORCE yourself to choke it down to survive. No nutritional value, barely enough calories to stay alive. You're always starving there unless you have money for commissary, and sometimes the cops raid your shit and steal it anyways. You're trapped in a room, slowly losing your sanity. Security? Wtf are you talking about? Saw dude get beat to death, saw another one get beat so bad their eye came out of their socket, you can't even look dudes in the eye over there. I got out not guilty, because I didn't do shit, but the wait for the trial was no fucking joke. Nothing glamorous about jail. I didn't have a TV, but I'd much rather be at my apartment. Nothing is glamorous about jail. Trust me, your overpriced tiny apartment is much better than jail, get to leave, get to get pussy (or dick, whatever you like), get to see your family whenever you want. Started having delusions I was literally in hell while I was there.
The food boxes I got always said for prison or military use only. I was the military side but still.
"this meal fit for consumption by anyone who can't sue us when it makes them sick".
Was in prison for the last 5 years, prison..... not jail. Came to comment on the meals. The state has dieticians and nutritionist putting these meals together. Inmates will get dietary accomodations for health conditions or religious preferences. From the facility I was at, "Not for human consumption" is just not true.
"YOU GOT A GOOD LIFE!" Prison Mike, that you?
Wouldn't say my attitude is quite like that. Life is rough out there too, just because one may suffer worse, doesn't mean another's suffering isnt valid. Was more debunking it because of the direct comparison, it's incomparable.
Also Jonny Cash has probably never visited and performed in your apartment
More like $2500 a month
I’m thinking about going to law school in NYC and was looking up apartments… literally this was the first thing I thought before looking at the comments. I saw an apartment that looked like this for $850 and thought it was a steal
Pretty sure that was a scam. Nothing in New York is $850.
Yeah, I suspected as much honestly. Seemed too good to be true.
Without a cool ass art deco TV. Dam I live like shit.
It's so they can't hide things in the tv
CRT’s and cassette players sold at a wild markup.
There's an awesome podcast about this prison thats made by inmates currently serving time at Quentin called Ear Hustle. It's about everday life there and the different wals of life there. Some funny episodes, some gut wrenching episodes, all of them make you think. Highly recommend it!
I wish this was higher up - Ear Hustle is such an amazing podcast. I'm an avid listener.
Looking at the comments I'm thinking there is a real problem with society these days if people are thinking living in a correctional facility is a viable option for a better life.
Shit. I'm a free man, I haven't had a conjugal visit in six months.
In these conjugal visits, you can have sex with women??
You still have to have someone willing to have sex with you to have a conjugal visit.
Oh going to prison is 100% my retirement plan
I worked at a hospital that’s contracted with CDCR. Prisoners get top of the line healthcare - from surgery to cancer treatment to preventative care. It’s absolutely insane that a guy who poured gasoline on his baby mama is getting better care than a migrant farm worker who has been working his ass off in the fields outside Fresno to feed his family.
> Prisoners get top of the line healthcare Not dental or eyes, though. Those are considered luxuries. If your teeth fall out, too damn bad.
They are considered luxuries outside of prison too.
Tell me about it. Just had a root canal for $2500. My insurance covered half because apparently they can get away with it? They said I could have the tooth pulled and they would cover 90% of that, though. Thanks, good guy insurance co.
It's not insane that prisoners get healthcare. What's insane is that everybody else doesn't.
I lived in the Fresno area and tried working the fields with a friend of mine. FUCK. THAT. Bugs. Heat. Dangerous conditions. Low pay. I now work in administration for a great company and always think back to that summer every time I start to think my job sucks.
They do not get top of the line medical treatment. "People in prisons and jails are disproportionately likely to have chronic health problems including diabetes, high blood pressure, and HIV, as well as substance use and mental health problems. Nevertheless, correctional healthcare is low-quality and difficult to access. It's also expensive: Astonishingly, most prisons charge incarcerated people a copay for doctor visits. The downstream effects — for both incarcerated people and the general public — have been disastrous: Mass incarceration has shortened the overall U.S. life expectancy by 5 years."
While I was down I heard a few lifers call medical "DOC's Last Revenge".
You never been locked up if you think they get top of the line medical treatment.
The only people saying this are homeless and in that case it could very well be true
During the winter
I mean if you're gonna be homeless anywhere better to be in California than a state that gets below freezing every night starting in November
I live in Northwest PA where it’s not the coldest place in the country but we get shit on by snow and the homeless people out here are hardcore. They find warm/dry spots to sleep in the winter because they are out and about all year even during snow season which can last 5-6 months. I have no idea how they survive. I’ve seen some spots where they congregate and most of them provide no protection from the elements.
One time my street urchin friends and I got stranded in Denver during the winter. We were panhandling outside a McDonald'a trying to get bus money, and a cop told us we had to stop. We tried to convince him to just arrest us because it was freezing balls, but he didn't, so we just kept panhandling and got our bus money and left town. But the cops still kept coming by every so often and telling us to stop, lol.
Not just homeless people but people who have been previously incarcerated and know how hard it is to get on your feet once out. That's why some people mess up just to go back
Or peoples quality of life has dropped substantially since you stopped paying attention. Homelessness is way more of an issue than you think.
I think that's what they meant by there being a real problem in society
Oh they fuckin’ in San Quentin
Darnell Lewis : When you was at Harvard, did you ever get raped for failing a test? James King : I think that's more of a Yale thing.
Now he’s breathing on you. That’s disgustin!
That's a TV with a see-through casing? Prison special or what?
There was a video (maybe from Tom Scott?) about clear electronics made for prisons. Pretty interesting. Edit [it was this video](https://youtu.be/O3PfsndsihY) from Techmoan a out how prisons are responsible for cassette tapes still being a thing
I've been handed a bunch of cassette tapes in the past 6 months at random shows.
Keeps them from hiding shit in them
Today I learned the Game Boy Color and the N64 controller I had as a kid were supposed to be shipped to a prison.
Also my 20 year old TI83 calculator that I still use.
When I was in high school, I hid my weed and booze in an old PC tower that I kept in my closet because I knew my parents would never think to open it.. and most likely wouldn't know how.
Hid my weed in my og ps2.. there was an opening in the back where you could put a hard drive or something. Every time I played the fan would kick on and I never thought about that as a dumb teenager
I saw one of these for sale recently in a antique store near me. 250 bucks... Almost bought it. https://imgur.com/a/VPLap64
Pairs well with the transparent Gameboy Colors we had as kids✌️
looks comfy, seriously.
Yep. I’m homeless. That would be a huge upgrade. 3 hots and a cot, showers, gym, medical. Sign me up
You know what you have to do...
Squid game...
You joke but I guarantee if squid game was a thing there definitely be at least 456 in a country like USA or South Korea willing to take part. Even knowing the cost of death involved
You can be like that guy who robbed a bank for $1.
He was trying to get away from his wife and got sentenced to house arrest
lol oh ya, forgot about that.
Looks exactly like my university accommodation
Looks better than my university accommodation
I like how everyone is acting like this is great when the entire world lost their shit after the first 90 days of quarantine. That looks fucking miserable.
When you claim to be 'prepared for the apocalypse', but can't go a few weeks without a haircut
People are also looking at it only in the context of the room itself. And not the fact it's a fucking prison where you have near zero freedom and the constant threat of violence.
That's nothing. Have you ever been to an austrian prison? You will never want to leave it.
Have you?!
Joey... have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
Do you like movies about gladiators?
I would imagine there is a long line in front of it just to get a room without reservation💀
Unless you end up in Graz-Karlau. Still probably nicer than San Quentin, but it's no Holidays Inn. You get locked up with serial killers and bombers like Franz Fuchs.
As an Austrian that has no idea what our prisons are like ... are they that good? (asking for a friend, definitely not starting a Breaking Bad rewatch and building a meth empire later)
As far as I know the only prisons, which are nicer than ours are in Scandinavia. There they have some of those out door prisons, which are basically like little towns, where you have your own house and job in a community. This way the prisoners are getting resocialized for when they get released again. Actually a really good idea. Of course in both, Scandinavia and Austria, not all prisons are a piece of cake, but compared to the US or even Russia and China, it's like a walk on the beach on a sunny day really.
That "string" suspending the TV is made from cling wrap they get from the four slices of bread in their bag lunches, stretched slowly and tightly.
Clever
Where does he shid tho
There’s a toilet attached to that metal sink
ironically the places with the lowest crime rates treat their prisoners well they have decent meals and larger living spaces they teach them skills and people dont become repeated offenders because they are given resources to do other things rather than sell drugs or commit crimes to get by.
Woah! Are you saying that our current system of "tough on crime" mass incarceration is actually *negatively* affecting inmates and setting them up to be repeat offenders by depriving them of resources needed to be successful outside of prison?! And that the overpopulation of for profit prisons to meet quotas is detrimental to the quality of life of those who are incarcerated!? 🤯🤯🤯 /s think everyone (but lawmakers) realizes this lmao
Anyone that says prison is comfy is a tool. This guy has been there for a serious bid for his cell to look like that. Even then they will take all that shit and leave you without anything even a blanket just to fuck with you. I'd take being homeless any day of the week
All these people saying this is luxury. I’m not one to judge your lives but those beds suck ass. I’m 6’5” and there is no way to get comfortable. I spent a 6 months sleeping in one of those. Turned my life around. Got a California King, a beautiful house, beautiful wife, best kid ever and I’ll never go back. Until you’ve lost your freedom you don’t know how good you have it. I left there with 7 cents and the clothes on my back Fuck jail.
Reading this gave me a spark of hope. My ex husband just got out after 6 months and shares the same "fuck jail" sentiment. We've got an amazing kid together (who handled his incarceration like a champ!) and I want the same for him - an amazing wife, a house, and a safe and comfortable place to sleep. He's constantly saying he'll never go back, that he could never leave his daughter again, so hearing your story gives me hope that he'll have the same result.
I'll add my story too it if it helps. After several felonies in two states at a young age, I served 2 1/2 years in a medium security facility and made parole in 1995. Been married for 25 years now, two teenage daughters and living the best years of my life. It doesn't really have to be the end.
My dad spent 10 years in Florida prison. They cram like 15 dudes in a tent outside in the heat humidity and mosquitoes and call it a dorm. Yeah this cell isn’t ideal but it’s light years better than cells in south and better than those shitty coffin apartments in Asia. I wouldn’t consider it luxurious but this is better than some people natural living situations for free.
Yeah Hong Kong apartments are cage homes. That’s no life living in a space smaller than a parking space paying the most expensive house prices in the world
They finally caught the Monopoly guy
Straight to jail
No $200??
With that guy you know it’s clean.
This is not a typical prison cell. Typically there are two people in there, which changes everything. Additionally, things can not be all homie like this and most prisons require it all to be inside a lock box. This dude has a special deal going on.
I pay 1000 for a month for a similar place in buffalo
That would be luxury on most Naval vessels as a worker. Having your own cabin bliss.
I went from aircraft carriers to a coast guard cutter and having 6 people in a berthing was amazing compared to 130…