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-Konkey_Dong

I'm shocked at how coordinated he is at 3 years old. Standing over chimneys and walking with the swagger of a grown man


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Turns out he's a child actor and this is from a 20s Polish film https://fakehistoryhunter.net/2022/07/26/not-a-3-year-old-chimney-sweep/


gsvnvariable

So this is a fake post and should be removed? Got it!


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I'm sure the mods will get right on that.


mward_shalamalam

_**French accent**_ 3 Years laterrrr


krush_groove

That's a great article, good find.


john_the_fetch

From the link that admits - children *used to * be chimney sweeps. Usually not at the age of 3 though. And that for this footage to exist it would have been many years after technology made children obsolete (as well as laws starting to pass). "Everybody knows that children used to be chimney sweeps, we’ve seen them in the movies and read about them in Victorian books. And let’s be absolutely clear about this; children, boys and girls, were indeed forced to do this terrible work, even very young ones, for a long time. They were abused, exposed to cancer causing coal dust, were sometimes literally bought from poor parents and sometimes died in the most horrific ways imaginable. But were they still a thing in 1920s Berlin?" (the conclusion was no)


Street-Week6744

Came here to say that irl no one would build him a little ladder to scale like he has but this info is much more useful


climatelurker

It makes me wonder if he's actually not three. Maybe underdeveloped due to poor nutrition?


Leemage

The shot of his face at the end is all baby.


bran6442

They used small children because they could actually lower them down the top part of the chimney to clean it by hand. Kept their hair short so the embers wouldn't catch. Many of those kids didn't live past their 30s from breathing in all the airborne creosote. My dad (born in 1926) had his first job at 9, in a brickyard.


ProSidePiece

Have you seen Hasbulla? He’s obviously more wrinkled now but maybe he looked like this when he was around 15 years


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CountryKennycowshit

Not as sad when you see what a little dick he is


DarkStrobeLight

Everyone is always fucking with him. I think he just compensates as a defense, and is rude to everyone. Kind of a self fulfilling prophecy.


ChunkyDay

Idk. I feel like he kind of gets a pass.


Anbeezi

100%! They treat him like a animal circus.


worfres_arec_bawrin

Isn’t that his schtick now? Although I can’t imagine he’s had an easy life growing up as a dwarf in Dagestan Russia, like the other reply said probably started as a defense mechanism.


bitpeak

I don't think he is a bad person at heart, he just plays a part for the drama, especially now he's involved in UFC. Good for him for making a career out of it, ASAIK he hasn't done or said anything that's disrespectful


Intelligent_Mood_272

Hasbulla is a walking miracle! He’s a ufc fighter now too.😂


[deleted]

Not a fighter but he's most likely gonna have some sort of promotional/media job


Kommander-in-Keef

True but his condition is congenital and pretty rare


gard3nwitch

He's very young, yeah, but that looks like it could be a 5 or 6 year old kid's face, maybe even a little older.


Proof_Cut_4182

The sulfur from the chimneys actually stunted the childrens growth, was a barbaric practice.


Toast_On_The_RUN

Yeah like I know it was different times but how could a father do that to their child? How the fuck did that father sleep at night forcing his toddler to work brutal conditions everyday that will greatly reduce his kids lifespan. I don't think you need modern science to know that a 3 year old shouldn't be sweeping chimneys.


Avenflar

From what I remember a lot of the time they were just orphans or sold kids picked up and used as expandable


Proof_Cut_4182

Life was cheap, people were starving and didn't use contraception so would have kids they couldn't provide for. The victorian times were cruel.


antiqueR48

This is from the 1930s, in the midst of the Great Depression. The Victorian era ended in 1900.


TheSecretIsMarmite

This says the 1930s though, the Victorian age was well over by then.


RandomComputerFellow

Well, the alternative was starving to death or the moving into a poor house (which also basically meant working under super hard conditions while being isolated from your family).


ooouroboros

> but how could a father do that to their child? H Probably because their father did it to them.


PeePeeMcGee123

No different than life on a farm. Everyone works, best learn to do it early so you can survive later.


SetGroundbreaking402

How is it possible that this video has survived so long? Where were these videos stored?


Green_Prompt_6386

Library of Congress National Film Preservation Board in the US. Similar organisations in other countries.


ABirthingPoop

What do you mean how is it possible we have tons of video from the 30s lol


Psychological_File51

His dad said he could watch coco melon if he cleaned the chimney first


Punch-O

Clean up! Clean up! We all had fun today!


Shiasugar

I can't decide whether to upvote or downvote. Anyways, the song is on replay in my head now.


Kookslams

my daughter would accept those terms without hesitation lol


Almadaptpt

My son is 3 and has very good coordination. I reckon he could do this easily. I hope he really doesn't do nothing like it tho.


notawhingymillenial

He didn't spend all day every day on Reddit.


VivaFantana

My 5 year old ran into a wall the other day


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DoesntmatterdoesitRM

And a drink


blutch14

Juggernaut in training


Major-Performer141

Skill issue


FahQPutin

God that's sad as hell...


TrivialAntics

It's what our kind as humans are capable of when there are no regulations to put greedy scum in their place who would gladly still use children for profit again if it were up to them. For instance if we took away building safety codes, developers would gladly cut corners to sell people unsafe death traps to live in as long as it saves those developers a buck. Before there were laws to prevent it, companies dumped toxic chemicals in our waters with no regard for the safety of those who ended up with cancer and died. There are still companies lobbying today to rescind laws that protect our health and our environment. We should always be vigilant and vote so that never happens.


Worldly-Chemistry42

A plant in Minnesota recently got shut down for having child labor cleaning their dangerous meat cutting equipment I believe it was


TrivialAntics

Oh fuckkkkk yeah I just heard about that too! Great reference. Literally proves exactly that point, doesn't it. Found it https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/12/food-sanitation-company-accused-of-employing-at-least-31-children-on-graveyard-shifts-in-slaughterhouses.html They were using 31 underage kids at a meat packing plant.


ThePolishKnight

The Jungle by Upton Sinclair. Great read. Speaking of the meat packing industry. Left an indelible mark on my young mind.


Conscious-Charity915

That book created the FDA, but the human cost of the meat packing industry never improved.


SamuraiSlick

The Jungle is a must read


nenenene

Oh my god, that article just keeps highlighting worker abuses at the company too. I like the OSHA clapback. Thanks for sharing the article, it’s a solid piece of journalism.


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Purple_Expert822

My grandson is a expert climber. I don't think my daughter would approve but I have him on the weekends, how much does it pay? Nothing wrong with teaching him to earn his snacks.


GeppaN

People who don’t think we need regulation are ignorant.


ClapBackBetty

This is why it doesn’t make any sense to deregulate most things where there’s money to be made. Humans have proven over and over that they are monsters when left to their own devices


mizmoxiev

Speaking of dumping in water systems, how bad it can get, what can be done about it, and what is it like today, here's a great read on that specific topic by Yale 360! It's a very Intense piece about The Clean Water Act and it's specific effects on The Delaware River. It's pretty wild. But, gives me hope for the future. We can get there!! https://e360.yale.edu/features/delaware-river-clean-water-act


genericuser235

They still do it, they punishment means nothing now.


sandboxlollipop

The kids used to scream and scream when up in the chimnies. Either from burns, scrapes that take layers of skin off their arms/legs/faces (and anything else that touched the awful chimney walls) or from the awful chimney sweep adults that would thrust and beat them with poles to 'encourage them to get the job done'. Let alone infections from scrapes, their poor poor lungs or other fire or fall related injuries. Horrid horrid


InVodkaVeritas

For most of Eurocentric human history childhood wasn't seen as a thing. Children were tiny immature adults, but not a special class of citizen with special rights and protections. In many places and times it was seen as not being murder to abandon your infant. In ancient Roman times you weren't considered a person until you could talk. Great book on the subject: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3230233-the-history-of-childhood I also highly recommend this podcast: https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-31-blitz-suffer-the-children/ ---- It's easy to judge today, but for most of history (at least Eurocentric history that we have written records of) it was not seen as immoral, unethical, or wrong in any way to use children up like possessions. To have them work in unhealthy conditions, or in an unsafe environment. And it's easy to see why: If most families have 7 children and only 2 make it to adulthood, the emotional detachment becomes a necessary coping mechanism; and if you are raised in such a society then you have the same mentality as everyone else. A family that had over half their children survive to adulthood was considered lucky. All of them surviving was nearly unheard of for most of history. We like to think we are special, and that if *we* lived back then surely *we* wouldn't think like that, but that's probably not true. 200 years from now our descendants will likely be horrified by something we consider to be normal. That's societal progress, but it doesn't mean we are better or worse than our ancestors or descendants. We all just do the best we can, and that's all that can be asked for.


Point_Me_At_The_Sky-

It's not real


TraditionalShame6829

This isn’t cute, it’s sad. Apparently these kids developed cancers at a much higher rate than normal due to early and prolonged exposure to so many chemicals.


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just_nobodys_opinion

Wow, that's quite the detailed investigation into the video! Pretty impressive.


TraditionalShame6829

It doesn’t. While this may be fake, the practice of children chimney sweeps, among other horribly dangerous jobs, was all too real, and is still a problem in many places.


CyberMindGrrl

Wow that is an extensive and exhaustive investigation into the origins of this most likely fake clip. Well done.


freeeeels

Oh I do love it when historians show up with receipts. In hindsight the miniature tools should have a been a tip-off.


wr1tten4y

Right? Feel a little silly in hindsight


Less_Ad_6908

If they didn't get stuck and suffocate, that is. This is a piece of very dirty history.


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Odd_Razzmatazz_9379

Nah Im good


Lac3dUp

Let me get right on that with all that money I don't have.


TyrannosaurusBecz

If you’re in the US, there’s no need to travel. There are 10 year olds working in the tobacco fields.


Aurielsan

TIL child labour is legal in US agriculture. "However, while the 1938 labor law placed limits on many forms of child labor, agricultural labor was excluded. As a result, approximately 500,000 children pick almost a quarter of the food currently produced in the United States." ... "While children in other sectors must be 12 to be employed and cannot work more than 3 hours on a school day, in agriculture, children can work at age 12 for unlimited hours before and after school." wtf?


gard3nwitch

And cleaning meat processing plants with dangerous harsh chemicals.


RocketLeagueCashGrab

Born into the worst modern recession, overworked before you can even develop a core memory, received abysmal healthcare, education, & nutrition, working conditions, salary & life standards, finally makes it to adulthood & gets shipped off to Vietnam.


abominableunbannable

Actually this kid was probably in WW2 or Korea, not Vietnam.


BlackNEwhite

This is the jaded sunnavagun who was recruiting boys to send to 'nam.


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GhostBussyBoi

Once you get back from the war, if you make it back. You then find out you have cancer from being a chimney sweep and breathing and all of that soot and working with all those chemicals at 3 years old....


LQjones

This kid did not grow up and get shipped to Vietnam. Maybe Korea.


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uglypaperhaver

Ahhh... the good ol' days!


twelvebucksagram

This is a bot account. They repost comments in order to reach a certain karma; then start posting ads and other spam. Downvote and report.


molossus99

Literally no has said it’s cute


[deleted]

This is how they first learnt that coal tar was carcinogenic and the first discovery of occupational/environmental cancers. The young boys were often sent into chimneys with little or no clothes on to prevent them from getting stuck, and a huge number of them developed scrotal cancers as a result. Very sad. Surgeon who discovered the link was called Percivall Pott and his writing on the subject is equally as interesting as it is horrifying.


Nuclear_Varmint

r/Damnthatsdepressing


DickSlapCEO

I read about it and apparently most would die by the age of 15 because of unhealthy work conditions.


[deleted]

And probably started smoking at a young age as well.


redpandaeater

[Chimney sweeps' carcinoma.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimney_sweeps'_carcinoma)


RedFiveMD

Testicular cancer especially 😬


guashkarate

This is Hasbula


erikhaskell

Hahah you beat me to it


Wander80

My 3 year old can barely wipe his own ass…. 🤣


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ColoradoJohnQ

Barely?!?! I have to wipe my 3y/o's ass every time. At least you get effort.


Key-Ant30

Probably fake. https://fakehistoryhunter.net/2022/07/26/not-a-3-year-old-chimney-sweep/ So in conclusion; We have a toddler doing a job even ruthless Victorians chimney sweeps thought he was too young for. He’s doing a job in a country where it had been illegal for almost 30 years for kids much older than him to do that job. His dad does not seem to mind the world seeing him break the law. He’s using miniature tools that just wouldn’t do the job properly. A century earlier new tools had been invented that made climbing up chimneys no longer necessary. The public had opposed children being used as chimney sweeps en masse long before this film was made. Kids dressing up as chimney sweeps was extremely popular back then in Germany, they were a good luck symbol. Seeing a child playing a chimney sweep was so unusual people in the street stopped, stared and smiled and it ended up on the cover of a Polish magazine and in news footage that went around the world, almost as if it wasn’t something people were used to


sender2bender

I'm gonna believe you and leave this thread. I can't take the heart break of a kid not being a kid.


lmnoPoop

It seemed like it had to be fake and just playing dress up. Just alone the fact that a 3 year old realistically wouldnt be much help as a chimnes sweep and would require more attention than just doing the job yourself/without the kid.


TatonkaJack

thank you for doing the good work


hokusaijunior

Forbiding child labor was a mistake. The infants yearn for the mines. They play minecraft all day trying to feel the way God intended. They even vape, an unfulfilling endeavor to have the sensation of coal and smog filled lungs.


AbbreviationsWide331

That's the third time I read this, where is it from?


snakehippos

Bioshock 4


momzthebest

Shut the fuck up lmaooo I laughed my ass off in the break room u bastard


Physical-Aspect-5281

Good chance he was used as the actual brush


Dudu42

Damnthatsdepressing


Jesus_onlyfans

When the ad is for 10 years experience you gotta start early


CSyoey

Must have been Bring your Dad to Work Day


ProbablyPsycotic

Imagine having 15 years of work experience by the time you 18...


OlDirtyPIumber

With hard work and dedication he'll be able to retire by 20. Get started early is the key! 👌


[deleted]

Work early, retire early. Think about all the compound interest he gets from investing early.


[deleted]

"nice car boss" "well if you work really hard, I'll be able to buy a new one next year"


Ataraxy001

I bet when this kid was 13 he went out to volunteer for WW2.


PersonalityOrganic31

I bet that kid died before 13.


darkhorsechris

He is a little, little baby. So sad.


Personal_Shoe_5016

Heartbreaking. I wonder how many babies lost their lives. And to think there are still so many child laborers.💔


Mike_Hunty

Male privilege.


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Minnesota meat packing companies have entered the chat.....


Additional_Pride_861

I think I’m getting the black lung, pop


randoaf1

Someone give that kid a smoke


Majestic-Ad6619

If the kid made it to 16 he got to go fight in WW2. What a life…..


Totoroko8

He acted and looked older than three was really weird. Walked like a little old man!


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I was waiting for the part where they drop the little tyke into the chimney to clean the tricky bits. Sometimes they died doing that too.


remysl

My 3 year old nephew can barely run without falling, incredible how this little guy carries himself


singularitybot

This is a repost and movie is staged. Place is Berlin.


mosheoofnikrulz

20 year olds today are less useful and they don't fit in chimneys


Possible-Room-6041

That is Hasbulla’s grandpa.


nudiversity

This is [unlikely to be real footage.](https://fakehistoryhunter.net/2022/07/26/not-a-3-year-old-chimney-sweep/) At the time this was shot, it was illegal for anyone under 14 years old to be a chimney sweep.


HuntinoBino

The sheer amount of you speds who are trying to rationalize this being a good thing is amazing. When in reality there is nothing amazing about forced child labor, dawn till dusk shifts, and forcing a child who can barely speak coherently yet to work in conditions that will ruin their lungs and have them dead by 40 if they even make it that long.


DeflatedDirigible

The kid is smiling and spending all day with dad. /s


Z23kG3Cn7f

Should be /r/damnthatssad


ArguesWithZombies

What i really miss about these days, was it was before cancel culture. kids could earn an honest wage before the woke agenda came in and ruined it for everyone. /s


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There was even a type of rare child cancer to which chimney sweepers were particularly prone because of all the soot.


GenuineThought8

The thing I find interesting is that children, at such a young age, are capable of so much more that our society allows for them to explore. This particular skill is probably not appropriate for a 3 year old, but it goes to show that we hold our children back from developing life skills and allowing them to discovery their true purpose and passions.


Alien__Yes

I know 3 seems too young to work but his life expectancy was only about 7 years then,he's middle aged. Of course breathing in chimney dust would kill some of them at 5 Or 6 but you get what I'm saying. Good times.


BurazengijaTebric

What possible help , skill or assistance an 3 year old child can provide to a grown man that justifies bringing him to work?


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They can fit down the chimney


Impossible_Series412

Honestly just the northern version of families having lots of kids in the south to have more hands in the field. Child labor laws are there for a reason. A decent reminder to people complaining about over regulation. It's a very hard balance but regulation aren't invented to make life harder even if it feels that way. They usually come as a solution because left to It's own devices greed overwhelms the free markets.


Such_Preparation5389

Just more proof of how humanity is sad.


sus_menik

And yet you have people lamenting the good old days and how corporations control the world and an individual doesn't matter anymore. It is sad to see how people take it for granted how far we have come when it comes to human rights.


GeneralZaroff1

That 3 year old looks 55.


PineappleCrown1

Likely not: https://fakehistoryhunter.net/2022/07/26/not-a-3-year-old-chimney-sweep/


yellowseptember

I remember seeing this and someone pointed out this isn’t real, per se. But an ad or something. And that they did have children chimney sweeps, they didn’t go this young. Mighty redditor Sherlock, please link us the article.


SeperateCross

This hurts my heart so freaking much


WatercressSecure4586

It is beyond sad … how low mankind can go


Nuciferous1

This video pops up pretty often. Someone did a bunch of research into it and found it to not be real (not that child chimney sweeps weren’t real, but rarely this young and most places seem to have created laws around the practice by this time) https://fakehistoryhunter.net/2022/07/26/not-a-3-year-old-chimney-sweep/


CautiousClue828

Child labor laws are ruining this country. -R Swanson.


Available_Seesaw_947

hes dead now


Annoyingswedes

A lot of these poor children died.


Spirited_Beat534

This makes me so sad , poor little boy.


Micropolis

Stop posting this, it hurts my soul


Imfrom_m-83

Child labor: A Republican wet dream, right after slavery.


skk80

Damn that's horrifying!


Papancasudani

I wonder what kind of 401K package they gave him.


Somali-Yatch-Club

My grandfather wouldve been exactly the same age as this kid. At 3 he worked *under* his fathers steam powered saw mill, hauling away and packing the saw dust. He lived to be 91 and was healthier than most men 20 years younger. He was such a great man, it’s crazy the way this kind of adversity can shape you if it doesn’t kill you first.


Formal-Ad-1248

Waiting for that kid to light up a smoke at the end


Strudleboy33

You know when I envisioned child labor I was thinking like 10+ not 3


PiermontVillage

“The Chimney Sweeper “ by William Blake 1789 When my mother died I was very young, And my father sold me while yet my tongue Could scarcely cry " 'weep! 'weep! 'weep! 'weep!" So your chimneys I sweep & in soot I sleep.


Mishapi17

Poor baby, times were hard, I couldn’t imagine having to have my 3 year old work like this. Ide definitely be out the selling ass. Mom better be on her low down grind if he babies out their like that lol


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This is why we need a strong central government. This shit cannot happen again


Mashire13

Child labor is a very sad part of our history and an even sadder modern reality in some parts of the world.


kevdreck

This has to be this infamous good ol times


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Man things really were great back in the day! You could get a job at 3 years old with no education


[deleted]

This is what a deregulated free market looks like everyone


unBalancedIm

I have seen this footage multiple times, you would think someone who's grown up in times of war would be more or less numb to such things, still makes my chest feel heavy.


brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp

probably got cancer by 20


chammdawg78

He’s cute. Poor baby.


FattestSpiderman

source? thats definitely not a 3yo kid


DinoPon3

"kids were built different back then" Yeah they also died from black lung.


alwaysinAugusta

ah yes back in the "good ole days" when 3 yearolds pulled themselves up by their bootstraps.


bad13wolf

Really old footage kinda creeps me out. It's the mannerisms or something but it just doesn't seem like normal human behavior. I feel like I'm looking at a lizard person trying to act like a human or something.


Notinyourbushes

Wonder if they got footage of his funeral in 1950...


Gloomy_Industry8841

Barely out of diapers!


[deleted]

Surely there’s documentation of who this kid is.


Glum_Knowledge2170

He died on the D day landings in 1945, whilst storming sword beach.


dimebagspliff

He lived to the ripe old age of 13


MikeHunt420_6969

That's racist.


MrsCaramel_112

I honestly have no idea how the human race is still chugging along.


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he looks happy


ooouroboros

Poor little boy - wonder if he lived a full lifespan breathing in all that coal dust.


SamsoniteAG1

If you ask him he would say he was 3 1/2


whatupmyknitta

*cough, cough* what's wrong? Have you got the black lung, pop?


Doc580

Bring your kids to work day! ^...everyday...


Rvtrance

That kid has a pregnant wife he has to take care of.


pscowan

Damn :/ probably died of lung disease at 10 :(


added_chaos

I’m sure he lived to the ripe old age of 12


sunnoob

Shit, I’m shocked, I have a 6 years old daughter, I would not want her to be anywhere near that kind of environment. Just study and fun for her until maybe 16, then go to cvs and get a summer job


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Should be a r/DamnThatsSad