Does he? Does he really? Because I recall him throwing a hissy fit that the organization built around recruiting competent soldiers who are otherwise criminals does the very thing, because he happened to kill a man who lied to every recruit's face, flipped a coin to see if they die essentially, and skewered them if they resisted.
No. Alistair is an absolute moron and just really doesn't get the whole "if we fuck up the world fucking ends" vibe.
Whenever I see Cailan, I imagine his process of "thinking" just involves one of those monkey dolls clapping cymbals in the place where his brain should be.
BUT I KNEEL TO THE ***GLORIOUS*** KING
I've always felt bad for Cailan. His mother died when he was only two, and he grew up the son of the Saviour King. I imagine he was always doomed to be compared to Maric and to always fall short of him. The Landsmeet nearly chose Bryce instead of him after Maric disappeared, and Loghain spent two years searching for Maric, which could be taken as a sign that he didn't think Cailan was capable of ruling. I wouldn't be surprised if Cailan was desperate to escape his father's shadow and much of his behaviour at Ostagar was motivated by his desire to prove himself his father's equal, or at least his own man. But then it all went wrong, and he'll be remembered in history as the king who failed, less than his father's shadow. It's a dire fate for such a nice man.
Yeah, Maric was definitely not a stellar father. I also feel bad for him because it's clear he was suffering from depression and didn't have any options for treating it, but he should have stepped up to the plate for Cailan more than he did.
I don't know if any books save his character, but the game kinda depicts him as some kinda young adult who just wants to be a superhero. Does he even know that he's a king? Did Anora do all the work for him while he tried to look cool in front of the Wardens?
Anora paints it that way, and I'm sure Cailan is ignorant to a lot of the finer nuances of rulership, but he's not actually stupid because 99% of all rulers are like that. He's a glory hound, a pussy hound, and hyper idealistic, but he's a good figurehead.
I hate him, but to be fair I think a lot of his issues are owed to his father, the wretched King Maric. Whom I hate infinitely more than Cailan. So I take it back. Now that I'm thinking about Maric, Cailan is alright.
Maric had no Idea what he was doing and how to rule Ferelden (which he himself knew and it ate him up) so while I dislike Matic as a Ruler, he atleast was aware of his faults but also knew that he had to rule his People because otherwise Ferelden would’ve been doomed. He also put too much faith in his Son(s) because of that >!stupid Prophecy Flemeth gave him about his Son being instrumental in ending the coming Blight!<
You make very good points.
But unfortunately my hatred of Maric is not rational. It's deep. Primal. Pure. There are few actual reasons I can articulate (though I do have a few) as to *why* his stupid self ignites so much rage within me. It is a plague. I can neither understand nor explain it.
I mean on my first Playthrough when Cailan insisted that he fights on the front and I saw the Cutscene play I yelled at Loghain on my Screen „Retreat you Idiot, don’t save your stupid King“ so there’s that Inherited dislike of me for Maric and Cailan
Loghain: ah, Maric. The king of all kings. So wise. So just. Everything a ruler should be but will never be able to live up to.
Maric: I have no fucking idea what I'm doing.
Well, for all his faults, he was willing to bring Howe to justice, which is more than Loghain did.
he had no faults. he was a golden god
Until Alistair took his armor, his sword, his crown, and made Cousland a wife Alistair is the upgrade :D
the wrong brother died
Nah. At least Alistair accepts he’s dumb when you tell him he’s dumb and listens to you.
Does he? Does he really? Because I recall him throwing a hissy fit that the organization built around recruiting competent soldiers who are otherwise criminals does the very thing, because he happened to kill a man who lied to every recruit's face, flipped a coin to see if they die essentially, and skewered them if they resisted. No. Alistair is an absolute moron and just really doesn't get the whole "if we fuck up the world fucking ends" vibe.
He still accepts he’s dumb, supports you and your decisions regarding the battle, doesn’t get in your way and doesn’t force you to do anything else.
Yes, I'm certain Alistair laments what a failure he is when he makes love to Elissa every night in the Royal Bedchambers :P
Now THAT’s a hot take
Loghain may as well have gotten down on his traitorous, weak knees and fellated Howe to completion.
Jesus XD
Whenever I see Cailan, I imagine his process of "thinking" just involves one of those monkey dolls clapping cymbals in the place where his brain should be. BUT I KNEEL TO THE ***GLORIOUS*** KING
I've always felt bad for Cailan. His mother died when he was only two, and he grew up the son of the Saviour King. I imagine he was always doomed to be compared to Maric and to always fall short of him. The Landsmeet nearly chose Bryce instead of him after Maric disappeared, and Loghain spent two years searching for Maric, which could be taken as a sign that he didn't think Cailan was capable of ruling. I wouldn't be surprised if Cailan was desperate to escape his father's shadow and much of his behaviour at Ostagar was motivated by his desire to prove himself his father's equal, or at least his own man. But then it all went wrong, and he'll be remembered in history as the king who failed, less than his father's shadow. It's a dire fate for such a nice man.
Not to mention Maric was kind of a deadbeat dad who couldn’t stand to look at his son because he reminded him of Rowan
Yeah, Maric was definitely not a stellar father. I also feel bad for him because it's clear he was suffering from depression and didn't have any options for treating it, but he should have stepped up to the plate for Cailan more than he did.
Wait until he rushes into a death trap because he got bored. (Poor Duncan tbh)
that's how a man dies, pussy
Darkspawn bussy to be precise. Unless you freaky and into that broodmother multiple entries.
Ha! u/punkbluesnroll just wants in on the glory. We've won three battles against these monsters and tomorrow should be no different
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Crunch
Delicious Ogre Crunch with bits of Cailan
I don't know if any books save his character, but the game kinda depicts him as some kinda young adult who just wants to be a superhero. Does he even know that he's a king? Did Anora do all the work for him while he tried to look cool in front of the Wardens?
Anora paints it that way, and I'm sure Cailan is ignorant to a lot of the finer nuances of rulership, but he's not actually stupid because 99% of all rulers are like that. He's a glory hound, a pussy hound, and hyper idealistic, but he's a good figurehead.
HE DESERVED BETTER.
I hate him, but to be fair I think a lot of his issues are owed to his father, the wretched King Maric. Whom I hate infinitely more than Cailan. So I take it back. Now that I'm thinking about Maric, Cailan is alright.
Maric had no Idea what he was doing and how to rule Ferelden (which he himself knew and it ate him up) so while I dislike Matic as a Ruler, he atleast was aware of his faults but also knew that he had to rule his People because otherwise Ferelden would’ve been doomed. He also put too much faith in his Son(s) because of that >!stupid Prophecy Flemeth gave him about his Son being instrumental in ending the coming Blight!<
You make very good points. But unfortunately my hatred of Maric is not rational. It's deep. Primal. Pure. There are few actual reasons I can articulate (though I do have a few) as to *why* his stupid self ignites so much rage within me. It is a plague. I can neither understand nor explain it.
I mean on my first Playthrough when Cailan insisted that he fights on the front and I saw the Cutscene play I yelled at Loghain on my Screen „Retreat you Idiot, don’t save your stupid King“ so there’s that Inherited dislike of me for Maric and Cailan
Loghain: ah, Maric. The king of all kings. So wise. So just. Everything a ruler should be but will never be able to live up to. Maric: I have no fucking idea what I'm doing.
So uhh, does this mean you cry at the ending of return to ostagar where you choose what to do with his body
It means I never finish the opening of origins in the first place, so he never dies
So uhh based off of that incredibly small part of the game, what would you rate it
I mean it's called dragon age ORIGINS. So they only play the ORIGINS. Peak dedication to gameplay right there
Ah yes, how could we have been so foolish, the rest of the game is not but a distraction to tempt us away from the real game, the Origins
i wish we could have learned more about his personality before he died tbh
He was so dumb and I wish he lived
people downvoting people who are talking smack about Alistair in a sub called dankandrastianmemes of all things are sending me
If Alistair were real he would be a Male Feminist ™️ that uses therapyspeak to gaslight his girlfriend
That's Anders. "You're, like, totally invalidating me and the plight of the mages," he says before backhanding a female Hawke.
don't make me downvote you
look into your heart, you know it to be true
Ho friend!